My hair gel smells like hamster feet.
sox always get lost in the dryer.
RFW2nd
AND make you wait in line 45 minutes to tell you it's not ready after seven hours.
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Send the pickle throwing midgets to the IRS, they deserve to be pickle-targets!!
(Take that IRS)
How is it that I can go to a fast food restaurant and get a king-size drink, a large, and a medium, but I can't get a small drink?
Does anyone know what the word medium means? (pun unintentional)
I'll just type in the punchline.
"...and, printed on every one, was the word MEDIUM."
(I better stop there)
And shim, I love the elevator quote!
On to another musing: I recently found out that water doesn't really go down the drain in the opposite direction south of the equator. The direction of the water's spin is determined solely by the position of the spicket, the tilt of the bowl, and other variables such as air currents and imperfections. Is that random enough?
Florida does feel colder than colder states. I'd rather be in 30-degree Colorado than 50-degree Florida.
Salt actually removes some of coffee's bitterness.
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As for my joke---well, obviously, it's not really mine---if you're motivated enough to look it up, it's joke #303 in Asimov Laughs Again.
and the bishop says "I can explain."
Keep Honking i am reloading.
and
My other auto is a .45 COLT ACP
dose Chcuk Norris ever quit being funny? the poor man has over 2000 jockes about him.
RFW2nd
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I can't find my glasses anywhere
Have you tried the top of your head?
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If management would only admit the machine didn't work, it could be ripped out and we could get on with our lives.
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Have you tried the top of your head?
Nope, my head is way too big for them to be up there.
I found under the kitchen table. Damn cat.
There has to be a lesson in there, somewhere.
Male dogs are also more sensitive than female dogs. You can tell a female dog 'No' and she'll just flip you the paw. Male dogs act like the world has ended. They also need to be told that they're good dogs a lot more often than the bitches.
PS: my brain is now always off, until around may it will come back on. i blame ther werewolf side of me for that.
RFW2nd
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e4
"Shake, shake, shake sonora?"
oh, well. its just another day in paradise. cause you cant hurry love, your an easy lover, I wish it would rain, and were living seperate lives.
that was... ok... hehe... he...
buy it use it break it fix it write it quick rename it...
or, work it harder makes us better do it faster makes us stronger.
WHO WANTS STEAK?!?!
through the fire and the flames...
comes a steak!
icecream actually tastes good with ranch.
Im in arizona, so everything tastes good with ranch.
It irritates me when people use the word anxious when they mean eager.
ah, hotel california...
If I wanted dangerous (which would be great research for my cyberpunk novel I need to do yet another edit on) I'd go home to Detroit.
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In the immortal words of Socrates, "I drank what?"
do violent video games give violent kids an outlet?
the one good thing is that Dice War, that the evil Crank put up on a previous Grist for the Mill thread is now gone. I know he put it there so I would be hopelessly addicted to it.
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the one good thing is that Dice War, that the evil Crank put up on a previous Grist for the Mill thread is now gone.
I'm thinking about sending an email virus to the person who showed it to me.
The funny part about how I broke my addiction to that damned game is that my video card fried, and it took a few days longer than it should have to get it fixed. By the time my PC was back to 100%, I was so far behind on my real work, I didn't have time for games; and, by the time I caught up, I completely forgot about Dice Wars.
So, Snapper, I would like to thank you very much for reminding me about it. What's your email address?
S!
S!...C!
but addictive.
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So, Snapper, I would like to thank you very much for reminding me about it.
Tiergan already sent me his thanks/curses for reminding him about it. Says he has a great story in his head but is now addicted, again.
I know so little about these things that I don't even understand what philocinemas is talking about...
why is there a "download" feature for a weight gain program?
Ill only eat a peanut butter jelly with creamy peanut butter, grape jelly, wheat bread of only one kind of brand, and only with the jelly side on top. wierd, huh?
*****
I'll try another random thought, kinda associated with it.
When you see someone talking on a cellphone at two in the morning, is it right to wonder just who they could possibly be talking to at that hour?
any suggestions?
lol.
where did Nintendos 1-63 go? why start at nintendo 64?
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where did Nintendos 1-63 go? why start at nintendo 64?
Man, time for Mom to kick you out of that basement, DL. N64 was what, three, four, gaming systems ago?
ok?
not-so-random thought: why do people always assume a reference to an old system denotes an out-of-touch person?
no offense, I just like the classics is all.
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Continuing the topic of jokes:
A turtle walks up to a tree, sighs, then begins to climb the trunk and out onto a branch. Spreading her limbs wide, she jumps... and lands in a pile of leaves. She crawls out of the leaves to return to the trunk and repeat the process.
On a nearby branch, Momma Bird turns to Daddy Bird and says...
Instead of throwing out another witty, innocent, but emotionally charged, comment, let me apologize.
Sorry.
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On a nearby branch, Momma Bird turns to Daddy Bird and says...
"Should we tell her she's adopted?"
Dreadlords harsh reaction has me down.
A game of Pong should bounce me out of this mood.
Computer memory works on a binary system. All sizes of memory, computing power, that sort of thing, is done on exponential powers of two. The Nintendo system operated on a 4K processor, Super Nintendo 16K, square that and you get 64K. Get it? Nintendo 63 would be incomplete. It's like choosing to use multiples of nine instead of ten.
That explanation isn't totally correct but it's close enough. The real explanation makes most people's head explode.
In my own defense, I did pay rent, and it was the first gaming system I had owned since my Atari 2600 back when I was a teenager in the 80's. Unless you count my Commodore 64 that I had during college.
dreadlord, I still have my N64 too. Zelda is still a great game, as is Mario 64. I still play them every once in a while with my 6 year-old. And as for the other part, I moved out of my parent's basement about 15 years ago.
hmmm... Mario 64... Im gonna have to try it now.
we all cool here?
by the way, why two "a"s in aardvark?
Even the most casual of browsers will come across it.
butterfly...
LOOK! A DISTRACTION!
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"Oh give me home,
Among the gum trees,
With lots of plum trees..."
My problem is that my mind seems to spend too much time flickering between the Procrastination Channel and FOIC-TV (Fixate on Irrelevant Crap).
Oh...by the way, the ADHD distraction jokes aren't even funny because and then my kids are taking me out for Buffalo Wings for my birthday tomorrow.

S!
S!...C!
Oh, and my husband says we're all nerds. LOL, he doesn't have room to talk because he's a computer geek and discusses Star Trek at work.
I've played Axis & Allies and Dungeons & Dragons at work. And my boss knows I keep the poker set in the trunk of my car....
I salute you.
a dyslexic athiest insomniac is someone who stays up late at night wondering if there really is a dog.
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Rob, that was hillarious! where did you find that?
It's a modification of something I read in The Big Book of Death.
*****
Then there's the story of the frustrated necrophiliac, who solved his problems by becoming the coroner.
Does honking at a field of cattle as you drive past mean you're desirous of inter-species interaction?

Atheists believe there is no god. Agnostics admit they do not know.
There are degrees of dedication to either ideology. But if you want to see atheists in action you see people like Penn and Teller and Richard Dawkins who announce with certainty that "there is no god," that's what atheism is.
Agnosticism is someone who admits they don't know. Or think it can't be known. Or that it isn't known yet.
And a religious person is someone who, like the atheist, believes that they know the answer--they just reach a different conclusion.
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An agnostic is someone who admits they don't know and either thinks it can't be known or that it isn't known yet.
Atheists don't believe there is a god, which is different than believing there is no god. While many atheists believe there is no god, most of atheists I know continue to question. Which means the second group admits there could be a god; they simply don't believe there is.
Therefore, the acceptance of questioning is a line between an agnostic and an atheist.
"Atheists don't believe there is a god, which is different than believing there is no god."
But those statements are logically identical.
Let's break it down.
Condition 1: there is a god
Condition 2: there is no god
Conditions 1 and 2 cannot be simultaneously true or false.
Athiests believe condition 2 is true. Theists believe condition 1 is true. Agnostics refuse to answer the question.
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Agnostics refuse to answer the question.
Not entirely...at least, from my vantage point. Many agnostics would very much like to know the answer to the 'god' question, including me (making the uncertain assumption that I will still be classified as 'agnostic' in the mind of those who read this essay).
I grew up in an environment where people regularly spouted: "There is a God because the Bible says so!", and was later subjected to an environment replete with "There isn't a God because (fill in the blank)" diatribe. Blame it on the scientist in me, but I got fed up with both sides' insistency of proclaiming the rest of the world was wrong, despite the fact that they couldn't prove themselves right.
Allow me to add this: Those who simply believe the way that is most comfortable for them are OK with me; blind faith, as much as I might inherently recoil from it, is still more tolerable---and a heluva lot more workable---than blind assumptive dogma.
I've since come to the conclusion that I'm wise enough to know that I am not nearly intelligent enough (nor is the rest of the human species) to completely understand how the Universe operates (regardless of whether it's God, or Fate, or some other 'entity,' behind the wheel). But that doesn't stop me from wanting to figure it out.
S!
S!...C!
(i feel doubly foolish now... maybe I should stop posting on this subject...)
S!
S!...C!
Writing is what happens when he can't get any more coffee and needs money to buy some.
(I'm crediting Theodore Sturgeon with this one, though I've adapted it for modern times.)
I don't drink coffee...keeps me awake...
but that was a long time ago. back in the Survivor era. we now live in the IB era.)
lets keep up the posting! break the record!
maybe we should have a specific forum for records... (longest post, most helpfull critiquer, person with the most topics posted... stuff like that.)
but who would regulate it? and what would the rules be?
my random thought.
death is the end, or a new beginning. it is horrible and beautiful, all at once. so strange, that we have no difference in the long run. only great men become immortal. Hitler, neapolion, alexander, ceaser, washington. they earned the title of immortals, somehting we can never hope to do.
100 years from now, you are either great or dead.
and so conscious makes cowards of us all.
Hamlets screwed, isn't he? After all hes done, god won't except him, and mankind will slander him.
now im depressed...
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Hey, doesn't the guy in the Issue 11 IGMS banner look like Mike Huckabee?
damn right i hear that the goverment is going to legalise it. YEEEAA
i finly figured out how to set the time on the microwave. it took me 6 months to do so but i got it.
RFW2nd
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i finly figured out how to set the time on the microwave. it took me 6 months to do so but i got it.
Egads! Aren't you stationed at a missile range, RF? Six months, huh? Sounds like the time change fixed it for you.
anyone feel free to drop in i live at 411 zuni dr. just dont show up after 2100 on week days i will already be in bed. and any time on week ends is goood. just dont kick my room door in i sleep with 2 swords and a 1911a1
RFW2nd
even though your names all over it.
... when one hundred thousand words adds twenty pounds on your scale.
RFW2nd
Two-edged sword....
And seriously, this is lame. new topic!
Can't be bothered hauling a laptop along...one more piece of luggage to worry about, and an expensive one at that.
...you scrape the top layer of skin off your hand but get distracted wondering how you might scrape any other layer of skin...

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someone else already got the good ones.
OR I found mine empty in the trash.
when I have writers block I procrastinate by...
googling interesting words I learn from wikepedia
It's amazing how I can spend hours researching something that's only going to get 30 words in a story
How about: what's the one element (plot, character, creature or otherwise) that you just can't get away from?
*****
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nice one Robert
Serious extra points if anyone can remember where I got it from.
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I can't get away from my characters falling in love with each other. I'm almost to the point where I'm OK with that, but just once I'd like to create a character who wasn't determined to fall in love with someone else before the story was told.
Maybe it's just a reflection of your personality. Are you easy?
It was satirising Jerusalem the Golden by Margaret Drabble.
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Maybe it's just a reflection of your personality. Are you easy?
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On the other hand, love and being easy are mutually exclusive categories, wouldn't you think?
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On the other hand, love and being easy are mutually exclusive categories, wouldn't you think?
Not necessarily.
Love has the ability to come in all shapes and forms. But I wouldn't invest in a ring just because I was grinning wide on the second morning.
The word "to" can be written three ways.
The word "too" can be written three ways.
The word "two" can be written three ways.
Maybe it is like this:
The word (to, too, two) can be written three ways.
*****
Down-down-down-dummy-doowah...ooh-yeah-yeah-yea-ah...wo-wo-wo-woao-wah...only the lonely.
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...when you can make up dialogue for the animals at the zoo, and it fits what's going on in the cages.
Anthropomorphism 
Darwin rolls over in his grave anytime someone does.
who would the money go to?
whos face goes on the back?
or, you could just have an essay, see whos is the best, argue over who is the best, and end up giving the rights to charity.
I should stop thinking. its just too much.
And Melanie, nope it's not got2be gel, I use the cheap stuff that's blue and glocky and does in fact smell of cedar.
~Sheena
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How about: what's the one element (plot, character, creature or otherwise) that you just can't get away from?
That's an obvious attempt to remove the randomness from our musings, IB!
Ah, well. Mine is racial conflict. Also, my characters often devote themselves to unappreciative people. Oh, and I shouldn't forget that new technology usually complicates my characters' lives.
I have a problem with my protagonists being too passive. I guess they are usually more explorers than warriors--with the exception of Pantroth, of course.
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it wouldnt be a problem, except im running out of ideas to make them stronger.
Ive resorted to needless chapters on his tutorship, which is boring and doesnt make good reading, even to me.
it gets annoying.
It could be that the problem isn't finding ways to make him stronger, but that you already made him way too strong. Is there a reason he needs to be this godlike so early in the book (or even at all)?
I think that Ill lengthen it into a trilogy, with the first two books detailing his learning and the third book applying what he has learned. (with limitations.) I also think that I might give him some trouble CONTROLLING what he learned.
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An Ubermensch villain
A character can have inner conflicts as well as outer conflicts.
If you can't do anything to the character, do something to someone or something the character cares about.
antagonist kidnaps love interest, and threatens her life if protagonist keeps fighting, all the while brainwashing the love interest...
it has merit...
thx!
I didn't say they had to be you as you are now. They can be based on extrapolations--you as you would be if thus and such had happened or if you'd made this or that choice.
So if there is part of you that could even think of scummy things, that is the part your scummy characters come from. Just as no one is perfect, no one is free from the possibility of being nasty.
And writers deal in possibilities, right?
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I didn't say they had to be you as you are now. They can be based on extrapolations--you as you would be if thus and such had happened or if you'd made this or that choice.
This is exactly how I approach creating the majority of my main characters.
My YA MC is based on me, had I chosen to go extreme in my pursuits of my musical goals.
One of my SF MCs is based on what I might be like if my very mild case of autism was instead full blown.
And, in fitting with this topic (such as it is in a thread entitled "Random Musings"), one of my favorite characters is based on what I would be like had I ever decided to treat "The Godfather" as my Golden Rule.
Frightening, no doubt, at how scummy I could be. The cool part about all this is that, as long as I keep everything on the page, I can do anything I want to anyone I want---for whatever reason happens to make sense to me at the time---and I don't have to worry about being on the 11 O'Clock news.
S!
S!...C!
It's not good when opposing counsel says "aha" after a witness's testimony.
It's also not good when your hairdresser says, "ooops."
I think being a mom is awesome and a friggen powerful and important job, and that the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world.
but not everyone can see that.
~Sheena
My first clues came from reading the correspondence of our founding fathers. Ben Franklin invented bifocals because he was annoyed by having to switch between his reading glasses and his myopic-vision correcting set. At least one anecdote I encountered in the correspondence remarked that at times Mr. Franklin looked like he had four eyes. I found no further clues on that front.
A few years back when I returned to college after a long intermission, I needed reading glasses to read textbooks. One day I was studying with a classmate. My myopic-vision correcting set was perched on my brow, and I was reading with the reading glasses set on my nose. She remarked, "When you wear your glasses like that you look like you have four eyes." Aha! wearing two sets of glasses at once, one above the other, makes a person look like they have four eyes.
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I had this off duty cop come up to me one day in walmart when my kid was having a fit, and flash his ID at me and tell me that my child was being disruptive and I had to leave the store. Immediately. Sad thing was, he didn't know he was dealing with a jail cop from the neighboring county. I knew he had no authority. So I messed with him and acted all scared and got him to admit that I wasn't doing anything illegal, that, well, the kid's just making a scene and it looks really bad....at which point I told him that he should know better than to try to be badge heavy, cause the sherrif I work for doesn't tolerate that stuff. He apologized and left.
The crazy world of mommyhood!!
Now that I've been hit by praesbyopia, if that's how it's spelled, I have to take my glasses off just to read. My current pair are technically bifocals, but that hasn't helped.
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When I was about 35 I got a new pair that I just couldn't wear so I quit wearing glasses. A few years later I had 20/20 vision. 
Now I'm much older and starting to think I am again going to need glasses so I can read the book less than 20 inches away.
TL
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And no the frozen food section of my supermarket won't do...sliders have to be hot and fresh.
(Last time I was there, a little stand out back appeared to have the hot dogs on the menu...but I didn't have the nerve to order one.)
(one more post closer to the longest thread)
(one post closer to the longest word)
....write at work when things get slow, because with him around things are never slow.
Anyone else who wants to use my sentence fragment as a jumping off point is welcome to it.
1) I realllllllllllllllly like butter, steak, ham (including SPAM), bologna, potato chips (and corn chips), Mexican food, Italian food, Chinese food and pizza.
and
2) If I can eat it, chances are it's bland, I'm not too fond of it, it's nothing resembling snack food, it's a type of fish or fowl (not including duck) or I hate it.
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I miss popcorn.
Now that I'm in my late 30s (just barely though!) chocolate gives me a migraine at least half of the times I eat it. That doesn't stop me from thinking that this time it might be different.
(edited to put a halt to rampant overusage of the smilies legend.)
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Dehydration is also a common cause of chronic kidney stones. I've passed my share and then some. Chocolate doesn't help. Oxalate compounds in chocolate are a source of minerals that form into calcium oxalate stones in the kidneys and gall bladder. Same with tree nuts and spinach.
I believe it. I had an ecoli infection that sent me to the emergancy room, and that pain was much worse than the pains of labor.
Not that labor is easy. It aint.
~Sheena
I'm not a diabetic, but by all rights I should be. I crave sugar like it's going out of style and get terribly sick every time I eat it. Eating sugar that's not covered in chocolate does seem to decrease my symptoms though, although it could be a placebo effect.
In most situations effect is valence neutral and affect is negatively charged, except perhaps for alternative definitions, like, affect a smile, affect an air of confidence, affection for, but not affectation. Chocolate, though I love it and won't live without it, affects my health and effects my happiness.
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Maybe: perhaps
May be: might be
Maybe I'll go.
I may be right.
Anymore: any longer or any further
Any more: any additional
I don't want to wait anymore.
I don't have any more.
Anyway: regardless
Any way: any manner
I went anyway.
I went any way the trail did.
extrinsic - Ever heard of ESWL (shock wave) therapy?
Unwritten - consider other forms of the words
affect - usually a verb (emotional connotation) - affection
effect - usually a noun (factual connotation) - efficient
Also, I had e coli and I had something this last month that lasted for week and put me in the ER on morphine and it was way worse than my C-section pains.
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extrinsic - Ever heard of ESWL (shock wave) therapy?
Yeah, the local urologists call it lithotripsy for short. There's a lithotripsy trailer that runs a weekly circuit to regional hospitals around here to perform the procedure. It's ten grand a pop. Money I don't have, no insurance, and it's not covered under any indigent's assistance program available to me. Other more invasive procedures for acute stones are even more expensive. My alternative to passing on my own was having a life-threatening emergency needing surgical intervention that would be partially covered by indigent assitance programs. My stones have cost me eight grand I didn't have as it is. Unneeded MRIs and CT scans, X-rays, radiologists, urologists, emergency room doctors, ambulance fees. Still paying off those debts. The big stone came out with pieces of flesh stuck to it.
Get your red hots here!
One apocryphal legend I've run across on red-hot hot dogs was that the casings are dyed red to indicate that they're extra spicy, cayenne pepper spicy. I've had them spicy hot, but most are just imitators. The red dyed ones were to differentiate from milder frankfurters.

I'll never forget the day I saw my sister in law at the store and she was letting my nephew eat a raw red hot dog as he was sitting in that filthy shopping cart. Blech.
[edited 'cause of an awkward last sentence...not that the next one is much of an improvement.]
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Whatever happened to inches?
who ever said the army was hard work was realy wrong. 99% of our time is BSing and 1% real work.
Working hard at hardly workin
RFW2nd
How does it feel to have started such a long thread? Mine rarely get past the first page, unless they get sidetracked by parties who shall remain nameless. But for some reason, no one has sidetracked this particular thread. Wow.
Melanie
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I've been in the hospital as a patient just twice in my life
Lucky you. I have spent two hundrend and forty three nights in a hospital bed...and I'm only thirty-one.
Just a stray thought.
my new faverit lyrics of ANY song. my buddy introduced me to Afroman.
9 months and 5 days left in the Army.
RFW2nd
Note from Kathleen:
Sorry RFWII, no quoting of song lyrics without permission.
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A curse so wrought
Upon my soul
By demons of the East
My days are dark
And slow to start
Before the rising sun
I raise my fist
To evil spawn
Who steal away my time
And when those beasts
Deign to return my hour
I’ll feel the curse again
-Burma Shave
rights to reproduce freely given by Owasm
Both Buckeye fans and Wolverine fans chant 'Go OSU!'.
I am going to use that poem by the way. You a fan of the Marx Brothers?
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Both Buckeye fans and Wolverine fans chant 'Go OSU!'
This is true only if the Buckeyes are playing Notre Dame.
As for that nonsense about helping the farmers...don't they get up with the sun and go down with it as well?
Sighs.
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Both Buckeye fans and Wolverine fans chant 'Go OSU!'.
Also Cowboys...Oklahoma State
DST has long since been of little exclusive impact to agricultural practices. Anymore, tourism and recreation industries, and consequently the overall economy, benefit most from DST.
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1) On days when he had to do a lot of walking, Jesus would turn water into gel for his sandal inserts.
2) Because there is no word for "boss" in China, crowds at Bruce Springsteen concerts shout, "Supervisor!"
3) When he died on March 7, 1999, director Stanley Kubrick was making plans to begin shooting his next film, MEATBALLS 5.
4) In 1964, meteorologists were baffled when March came in like a lion and went out like a hedgehog.
5) An AMERICAN IDOL contestant was recently disqualified from the competition after testing positive for dignity.
6) In China, John Steinbeck's THE GRAPES OF WRATH is translated as ANGRY BERRIES.
7) PEOPLE magazine's "Sexiest Man Alive" is seventh in line to the presidency.
8) In the early drafts of the POLTERGEIST script, the little girl got sucked into the toaster.
9) Walt Whitman's dying words were, "Kiss my ass."
10) Today is International Women's Day! Now shut the hell up and go make me a sandwich.
11) The Vatican currently employs six stunt-popes.
12) In 2004, the FBI foiled an Al Qaeda plot to disrupt the cattle judging at the Illinois state fair.
13) When he's not working, Satan enjoys golf, jazz, Victorian novels, and spending time with his family.
14) A Freedom of Information Act request was recently filed asking the government to reveal the location of the Hidden Valley Ranch.
15) Regis Philbin and Charles Manson were college roommates.
16) After years of research, scientists have discovered that, in spite of their remarkable intelligence, dolphins are incapable of sarcasm.
17) In the early drafts of CARRIE, Stephen King's first novel, Carrie White's paranormal power was the ability to make people talk like Daffy Duck.
18) Apple has spent nearly 200 million dollars trying to develop a wooden iPod for the Amish.
19) Until 1926, the president and vice president were required to sleep in the same bed.
20) The National Weather Service has four employees who do nothing but watch for clouds that are shaped like animals.
21) Moses's last name was Weintraub.
22) The National Weather Service has four employees who do nothing but watch for clouds that are shaped like animals.
23) In the early drafts of William Styron's novel SOPHIE'S CHOICE, Sophie was forced to choose between paper and plastic.
24) "You're not clean until you're Zestfully clean" is an old Arapaho proverb.
25) The first entry ever to be searched on Google was "nude hot oil wrestling."
26) Gerald Ford's first job after leaving the White House was providing the voice of Carlton the Doorman on RHODA.
27) The Wright brothers' cousin Duane invented the luggage carousel.
28) No one named Gary has ever been pope.
29) Shortly before the end of his life, Elvis was planning to star in a movie called VIVA PIE.
30) The term "No sh*t, Sherlock," first appeared in the book of Leviticus.
31) According to a poll in FILM COMMENT magazine, fans' least favorite James Bond was Randy Quaid.
32) In 1988, several HOLLYWOOD SQUARES panelists were seriously injured when Dom DeLuise, Louie Anderson, and Roseanne Barr were all seated in the top row.
33) When among friends, Jesus always referred to his 12 disciples as "my posse."
34): In his will, kitchen-gadget inventor Ron Popeil has asked that his remains be julienned.
35) Eva Braun's parents felt she could do much better than Hitler.
36) According to documents recently uncovered by historians, Mary Todd Lincoln was into leather.
37) Phil Donahue is under the impression his show has been on hiatus waiting for new carpeting.
38) In parts of Wyoming, it's legal to hunt the elderly.
39) Although he never received credit, Thomas Edison invented the flat-front chino.
40) A panel of experts concluded that there are no jokes about the Jonestown massacre because the punch line is too long.
41) To create a nurturing, nonjudgmental atmosphere, many math teachers now tell children that no numbers are truly negative.
42) When she died, speed-reading pioneer Evelyn Wood was working on a way to watch television more quickly.
43) The classic 1968 movie PLANET OF THE APES was based on a true story.
44) During his term with the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan lost 2.8 billion dollars in taxpayer money betting on keno.
45) In addition to its versatile knives, the Swiss Army is known for its multifunctional pants.
46) During the advertising campaign for its quick-rising breadsticks, Pillsbury briefly made its Doughboy anatomically correct.
47) Chinese restaurants require Peking duck to be ordered 24 hours in advance so the duck may enjoy one last day with its family.
48) Burt Bacharach ends every concert by flipping over the piano and biting the head off a rat.
49) Biblical historians now believe that, although he could walk on water, Jesus was a lousy swimmer.
50) Milton Bradley invented Twister as an excuse to touch women at parties.
51) Because of his name, Alexander the Great believed he would grow up to be a magician.
52) Mitt Romney has paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to a blackmailer who has photos of him with his tie askew.
53) The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has spent millions of dollars trying to cross a bridge before they come to it.
54) Wanted criminals can elude law-enforcement jurisdictions by seeking refuge in an International House of Pancakes. (That falls under the jurisdiction of the UN.)
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ever hear the story about how schools let kids out in the summer "to help on the farm?" Who among us has actually done that during the summer, and not as a lark or learning experience but as part of the family business?
I did. For a couple years, my family owned a hay farm. Before that, I worked in a fruit shed owned by family friends. Sorting pears is fun, apples is boring, and peaches is a bit icky. Have you ever picked up a 49er to discover your thumb is in brown rot? Imagine that happening a dozen times in a day. Carrying hay bales and wooden boxes full of fruit certainly contributed to my upper body strength, though. I laugh whenever someone thinks I'm weak just because I'm skinny. More people should work on a farm, even as a lark or learning experience.
Allowed :-- Aloud
SO VERY TRUE...
were do i get the permission to quote the lyrics then???
RFW2nd
Warning: permission to quote lyrics usually costs piles of money.
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Warning: permission to quote lyrics usually costs piles of money.
Well, if it's an issue of volume I can offer plenty of pennies
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Somebody once told me the shellacking that goes on a violin absolutely ruins the sound they make.
On the other hand, I once read that the secret of the Stradavarius violin is in the wood---the wood Stradavari (?) made them out of was already aged couple of centuries when he made them. (What kind of wood? I don't remember.) How serious to take that one, I don't know...I don't know if anybody's submitted the wood to carbon dating.
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It's all a moot point to me...I can't play the violin. I can play the guitar, any regular brass instrument but French horn, the harmonica, the recorder, the kazoo...but not the violin.
Maybe, maybe not. But whatever the secret is it blows my mind that we can create nanotechnology-kind-of-stuff and not figure out how to make a violin like these.
something about breaking them in...
Like for other violin makers, modern as well, a violin top is made from spruce, the back from maple, the inner parts from willow. Stradivarius violins were made from especially consistent-grained spruce and maple. Present-day violin makers select spruce and maple with similar properties. Of the master violin craftsmen I've known, they reported that they like the woods to age at least 40 years before rough cutting into blanks and age for several years after before shaping. Reportedly, the Stradivari family used chemicals to treat the woods, which may contribute favorably to the sound quality. However, the same compounds occured in varnishes at the time of Stradivari's work.
What finishes were applied by Stradivari are a matter of conjecture. Limited samples available for testing. However, it's known that he didn't use shellac. Stradivari may have been as equally discriminating in selecting the best finish for violins as he was with all of his choices. He did finish with an unknown proprietary varnish recipe, though.
As a compromise to an oil finish, a violin varnish is used for finishes. The woods do need enduring protection from oxidation and sunlight. A good quality violin varnish is brittle, though, because the harder it is the less it deadens sound. Basically, the least plastic natural-wood varnishes are what the violin makers I've known use. Basic ingredients are gum rosin and linseed oil.
Aging a musical instrument is all about the grain and variant woods species and finish stresses settling into their environment. They move in different dimensions and directions with changes in humidity, atmospheric pressure, and temperature. What sounds great in the craftshop or store needs time to adapt to its new setting. And time to adapt from being made into an instrument to begin with. Hide glues traditionally used in instrument making have high moisture content that the woods absorb. They also absorb solvents from the finish that take time time to fully evaporate through the cured surface finish. Plus a finely crafted violin is a precious commodity. Storage of one probably results in a reduced moisture content in the woods from what would normally be found in a piece of furniture in a modern home.
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1) The exclusive Butters episode.
2) The manbla episode.
3) The Michael Jackson episode.
Make Love not World of Warcraft.
what convensted me to never get addicted to WOW. i did play for 4 hours once and got too adicted that i had to call my shrink for help. Thanks WOW
RFW2nd
It's like the inclination a person might have to yell "Fire!" in a burnt down theatre.
It's too late to warn people. The theatre has burnt down. We are in fact, geeks.
By the way, check out thinkgeek.com. Awesome.
~Sheena
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Beware of Geeks bearing gifts.
**The flouride the dentist put on my teeth today tasted like the glue from envelopes, which was never a taste I hated, although tasting it all day long has been kind of nasty. The flouride feels like they wrapped my teeth in mesh. Ick.
Melanie
Federal excise tax on roll your own cigarette tobacco increased 2252 percent from $1.10 to $24.78 a pound. What costs a tobacco farmer $2 to produce is now costing a consumer at least $45, up from an average $18 per pound last year. State tobacco excise taxes are responsible for another average $10 in cost per pound of bulk tobacco. Many state legislatures are considering increasing state tobacco excise taxes to equate to the federal level.
Supporters of the sin-tax increase claim it was necessary to achieve product parity taxation in order to prevent a flood of roll your own consumers abadoning ready-made products. Regardless, bulk cigarette tobacco suppliers have been overwhelmed with orders.
Small cigar taxes went up even more than bulk cigarette tobacco. Ready-made cigarette and snuff excise taxes also went up 250%.
This does not bode well for the 20% of the US population that smokes. Nor does it bode well for freedom to choose lifestyle. This is most certainly taxation misrepresentation placing an inequitable burden on smokers. Are we underclass citizens? Because we smoke are we servants to the majority? A dark day in American history.
What's next, a health excise tax on high blood pressure?
I don't smoke myself, and to be honest I hate the smell of cigarette smoke, but this kind of abuse is just ridiculous. It's one thing for businesses and residences to say whether or not they allow smoking, and another for the government to step in and say it's not allowed anywhere. Or even within 20 feet of any entrance (just try to find anywhere 20 feet from an entrance in your average desk job office building!).
Unfortunately tobacco isn't alone here. Alcohol has been banned, restricted, and tightly controlled for a long time now. In some states like Utah they even ban wine coolers, for the love. And you know that since the government controls the only supply of alcohol there's nothing keeping them from jacking the prices up if they want. Why should cigarettes be any different?
And don't get me started about the abuse of prescription drugs that are just slightly moderated versions of heroin. It's a crazy world we live in.
What scorches me is that a product that has a real-market cost of $10 a pound has gone up to $45, $35 of which is taxes.
Beer currently has a Federal excise tax of roughly $0.30 per six-pack. Applying the same FET increase as bulk cigarette tobacco would add $6.75 to the retail price. Wine and sparkling wine FET per fifth (750ml) currently $0.21 to $0.67 and spirits FET $2.14 per fifth. But no, no alcohol FET increases, yet. When tobacco tax revenues don't meet expectations . . .
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I'm not afraid of spiders, I just like them to be where I can see them.
Ohhh, gives me the willies just thinking about it.
~Sheena
There is a difference between need and strong want. People think they need to smoke because addiction exists, but they don't <i>really</i> need it. There are alternatives that can ween them off their addiction and, ultimately, if deprived of tobacco they're not going to die. So to pretend that tobacco is a need equal to food is inane.
As per the agenda to reduce the number of smokers it is more targetted at discouraging the creation of new smokers than it is taking down existing ones. But if it somehow diminishes the number of smokers that's a good thing. People are healthier and live longer without the tobacco.
Atlas can shrug all he wants.
Also I'm a little confused how you can half something to 10%. 50% I get, but 10% makes no sense to me. Are you saying that 20% of people smoke and they want to half that to 10% of all people? That's my best guess.
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I'm not a "very jaded smoker." Shame on you for making such a thoughtless remark. I am a jaded taxpayer citizen, part of a small minority that's been unlawfully singled out for punitive taxation. Expect dissastisfaction to grow when the tax doesn't cover the program and they raise taxes on alcohol and other "sinful" pasttimes.
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You are spending your time creating stories, creating a legacy.
That is not nothing.
~Sheena
oh, man. Good to get that off my chest.
Nope, that didn't help.
My greatest fear is that I will somehow mess everything up, or make a huge mistake without meaning too. Like turning the steering wheel too hard and taking my whole family to their deaths at the bottom of a mountain.
And one time I put on my shoe only to discover a mouse had moved in. I didn't kill it, I'm too much of a softy, but I did evict it to the back field.
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Promises, promises...
I remember my university's fees office sending me letters about owing them 20 dollars for like a year and a half...I mean it had to have been at least 50 letters in all, you'd think they spent more than the 20 on just sending them out.
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I am sure the angry disenfranchised taxpayer would vote the bums out if they allowed smoking while waiting to vote.
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And would that technically mean their victims died of a heart attack?
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Supposedly, some people never find out it even happened; the eggs don't hurt and the spiders leave the body while the person sleeps.
Ah, the things I've learned at the doctor's office... Anyway, the point: it's not a rational fear.
And, even if they didn't try and consume her face (which they did), I could see a rational fear (even arachnophobia)developing out of it.
I think I was 9 or 10 when I went on a double-ferris-wheel with my mother and my cousin, who was my age. I sat on one side, they the other, as we slowly rose to the top. At the top, the wheel stopped so people could board the other ferris-wheel, and one of the bolts to our car snapped. The swinging arm flew loose--on the side I happened to be leaning on--and I was suspended in mid air, nothing to grab on but the slick plastic seat or the arm which was attached to nothing. It was better than twenty years before my wife convinced me to get on another one.
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When I was younger I loved cats and hated dogs. Then I was attacked by a rottweiler and spent a few years afraid of even small dogs.
Now I really love dogs, and seem to get along pretty well with them.
Two-fifths of the way to a grand.
May 26th will be the date. That is my prediction.
it hurts my brain to try and remember whats been said before.
any way...
i think i almost asended last night as i lay in bed awake.
it came to me this way, i thought if the WHOLE KNOWN universe was compressed to the size of a football stadioum what would we be? how big would that make us? what would our whole existance be but a insiginigant minute nothingness with size less than that than the spaces between subatomic particals.
and at that moment i looked i was floting above my body and was asending through my sealing. needless to say i freeked out and fell back into my body and jumped out of my bed gripping my .45 Colt drenched in sweet.
and no i was not on ANY mind alutering subestences including my sleeping ade and pain pills, or my anti depresents (its the weekend so i dont take them)
just thought i would shair my interisting experiance with you all and maybe one of you can asend your human body and know everything, just think of us here from time to time
RFW2nd
"Astounding, Holmes, however did you deduce that?"
"Elementary, my dear Watson, you have forgotten to put on your trousers."
If you view the universe as a constant now which is always changing, then time becomes a function of determining the state of the universe at any point of its change.
Example: If a ball is rolling and you were looking at a clock, you would see a different time at every position of the ball, but the only true position is at the time you're observing, the constant now.
This means there is no past, except the evidence left behind by the constant change. For the universe as a whole with stars moving away from each other, that evidence is that light from billions of light-years away shows us an image of stars as they were billions of years ago. For humankind in general, there is only the now, and history is simply collective memory of the universe at some earlier state.
I got to thinking that that meant our view of the past was probably an evolved mechanism for recording fatal change (ie anything that kills us), which branched complex animals away from living in the constant now (with no recollection of a nonexistent past or the changes that may take place in the future).
It's a bit hard to put into words, but the practical gist of it is that if someone wanted to go forward or backward in time, they would have to change the universe around them to the way it was at that moment in the constant now. Which would mean having the type of power to move unimaginable numbers of elements back to the positions and states they were in that past time, as well as having the recording equipment required to know each position and state. Highly improbable.
And since quantum theory proves that you cannot view things on a subatomic scale without changing their position or speed, this makes time travel also technically impossible.
I don't know, maybe this is even weirder than an OBE (out of body experience) >.<.
At anycase, the answer to those questions are beyond our grasp, at the moment, but they are fun to write about.
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Humans have an ability to indirectly observe time linearly, past time and future time. Memory and history perceive the past, indirect observation. Predictive projections perceive the future through indirect observation. Immediate future perception is crucial to existence. Thought of moving across a space becomes real deed usually more or less as perceived, though largely taken for granted. Without the ability to perceive a bracket of time, humans would live solely in the moment and not be able to track the linearity of time, in other words, not able to exist in the three observable spatial dimensions. Imagine driving a car and not being able to orient it in three dimensions because only the now of three dimensions is directly observable, for example, no stopping because stopping depends on perceiving the immediate future. Pressing a brake pedal results in a car stopping. Lifting a brake pedal results in a car moving. They're not coinciding events.
Pencil a thin line on a piece of paper, it's perceived as a line on a two-dimensional plane, though both have at least three observable dimensions. Like the paper, the graphite has observable depth, otherwise it wouldn't leave a visible mark.
Tardyon or Bradyon space, the realm of the observed universe, falls between two asymptotes, the boundaries of the velocity of light and theoretical zero velocity of Absolute Zero. The special relativity derived theoretical tachyon realm occurs beyond light speed and has theoretical properties. The less imaginary mass and real energy a tachyon instance has the higher its velocity, approaching infinity as mass and energy approach zero.
No one has even suggested let alone explored the theoretical possibilities at the opposite end of the velocity spectrum. Experiments have pushed the technological limits of reaching Absolute Zero, but it appears to be an asymptote. Twice as much effort is needed to halve the temperature from previous efforts; therefore, theoretically, an infinite quantity of effort is needed to achieve Absolute Zero. At Absolute Zero, no known or theoretical instance with dimension or velocity or matter-energy properties, but what if? Say a luton (absoluton) has somewhat similar propeties to a luxon (photon), except it is an imaginary absolute rest instance. Then assuming that the space-time continuum continues beyond absolute zero toward minus infinity instance velocity, there's a whole other realm, say the fractyon realm where minus velocity equals fractal dimensions. |N^(N-1)| when graphed shows interesting possibilities. That's an equation I invented for determining the complexity of a scientific model, where N equals the number of discernible discrete parts. 0 for N = undefined, 1 for N = 1, -1 for N = -1, 2 = 2, 3 = 9, 4 = 64 . . . 25 = 3.552713679^33. There's a continuous infinite nonparabolic curve on the plus side of the Zero asymptote, but fractal points along an inclined slope on the minus side.
All these dimensional possibilities might coexist as a divisible but as yet unobserved space-time continuum. If they were at one time in homogenous solution and then precipitated, might there be a big bang? Say a thought caused the precipitation. Let there be light.
Fractyon, luton, and absoluton are terms I've coined and claim exclusive rights to.
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Natej11, going into the observable future is easy. Every time an astronaut journeys into space, he/she is time traveling. It has been proven. If you put an atomic clock on board the space shuttle and have an atomic clock here on Earth both set precisely the same, there will be a time difference between them when the shuttle returns. Time is relative - Einstein. One minute always feels like one minute no matter how fast you're traveling. However, as one approaches the speed of light, what passes as a minute for the traveler, appears much longer to the observer.
Light travels at around 186,000 miles a second. If you got into a ship traveling half that speed (93,000 miles a second) and you circled the Earth, you could circle the Earth around 450 times in one minute according to the observer on Earth. However, the 450 trips would take less time for the person on the ship. If this continued for any length of time, and the orbit was just right, the constellations would appear to change much quicker to the astronaut while in the ship than they would normally back on Earth.
Traveling back in time would be more tricky, and I question whether there would be anything there. If you could move anywhere in the universe in a second and had a powerful enough telescope, you could see the Earth anytime in its past. Getting there may be a problem with relativity. Even though you can see it, that still means it happened a long time ago. I believe quantum mechanics solves this problem, but I'm not sure how.
Another headscratcher. How about imaginary numbers? Only math could prove the existence of an impossibility.
One subject that I was fascinated with was Geometry. Proofs, Theorems, Hypothesis; contemplating shapes without the cumbersome manipulation of numbers was an enlightening experience. I hated the mountain of homework but loved going over those proofs. It was like walking among the Greek scholars of yestermillenia working over those theorems.
Actually, it kept me from applying to dental school. I became an accountant instead. Go figure.
One of the identifying characteristics of Neroidia is a distinctive double row of wide scales on the underside of its tail. They are often confused with cottonmouths and copperheads because they have similar markings elsewhere. Also over the years, people have brought me Neroidias they've killed because they wanted to show me what they were convinced were cottonmouths or copperheads. Neroidia is a nonpoisonous snake, and a beneficial one. I don't have a mice problem, though I live nearby a field mice haven.
Neroidia do bite and have an anticoagulant in their saliva, which makes a bite wound bleed liberally. I've not been bitten by one, but have been bitten by a boa constrictor. The eight-foot boa lost a fang. I got a small bruise on one of my knuckles. A small misunderstanding between a housemate--owner of the boa--the boa, and me. Snakes and I have natural enmities that are apparent to us, but not to others. The boa and I had another encounter involving a third party that's too grisly to relate here.
I've also caught rattlers, cottonmouths, and copperheads, but never a coral snake, though I've seen a few in the wild. I don't seek out snakes. For some reason they seek me. My earliest experience with a snake was with a rattler in the mountains of Southern California when I was a young lad of seven years. Grandma was about to take a squat on the snake when I pointed it out to her. We shared a common bond in the way snakes seek us out. The rattler and I had a staring contest while grandma hysterically ran off screaming. The rattler flinched first and slithered off.
Snake tastes like gamey catfish.
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At the risk of being psychoanalyzed and declared a total nut, here's my dream:
My 4 year old son and I were at my sister's house, which was this humungous mansion type thing with bamboo walkways that kept going gradually up to different levels (in the dream, not in real life). My son was scared, and he wanted to go home, and I told him we could, but instead of leaving I turned on the TV. My sister was watching the same show upstairs and we kept calling to each other. It was a show we watched all the time, and it was about this man with superpowers. He had a wife that he loved very much, but in this episode he is getting out of bed with his ex-wife, and it quickly becomes apparent that he has forgotten all about his current wife through some magical spell. My sister and I were calling back and forth to each
other about how it wasn't very realistic and how they'd made him forget about his wife too many times, and if he loved her as much as he acted like he did, no magic spell would be able to make him forget about her like that.
Suddenly I WAS the man, and the whole mansion, including my son, just vanished. I was driving down the road (and it gets
complicated here, so I'm going to start using third person instead of first), and suddenly this overhead compartment pops open, and there is his wife, shoved inside with her mouth open in a scream--but the woman was really ME. Suddenly the man remembers everything, and he pulls his dead wife (who is me, except that I'm still the man in my dream) out of the compartment and flies up in the air with her, and the car goes plunging off the road into the ocean. The woman who is me is obviously dead, but somehow the man thinks he can save her if he can just fly high enough. So he's flying with his dead wife and suddenly her arm breaks off and the rest of her body falls into the ocean. He is afraid he'll never find her now,
but he holds onto the arm and plunges straight down into the water and finds his wife--the plunge into the ocean has brought her back to life, and he scoops her up before she can drown and flies back to my sister's house, although the woman is screaming and saying that she doesn't want to go there. Then they are trapped in this endless loop of looking for my sister and my son--who is gone.
It was AWFUL and so vivid.
Melanie
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When I got divorced, my wife said she would fight for custody of the kids.Took her out with one f#cking punch.
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Statistically... 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.
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A woman brings eight-year-old Johnny home and tells his mother that he was caught playing doctors and nurses with Mary, her eight-year-old daughter.Johnny's mother says, "Let's not be too harsh on them.... they are bound to be curious about sex at that age."
"Curious about sex?" replies Mary's mother. "He's taken her f#cking appendix out!"
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A family are driving behind a garbage truck when a dildo flies out and thumps against the windshield. Embarrassed, and to spare her young son's innocence, the mother turns around and says, "Don't worry; that was an insect."To which, her son replies, "Really? I'm surprised it could get off the ground with a ***k like that."
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I met a 14 year old girl on the internet. She was clever, funny, flirty and sexy, so I suggested we meet up.She turned out to be an undercover detective. How cool is that, at her age?!
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I was reading in the paper today about this dwarf that got pickpocketed.How could anyone stoop so low?
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I was at a cash machine when an old lady walked up and asked me to help her check her balance.So I pushed her over.
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I was walking down the road when I saw an Afghani guy standing on a fifth floor balcony shaking a carpet.I shouted up to him, "What's up, Abdul? Won't the b#stard start?"
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Old Father O'Malley was strolling through the church grounds one sunny summer evening, when he came upon a little frog sitting by a tree. "My Lord," he said, picking it up: "You're the saddest, most forlorn-looking frog I've ever seen. I only wish you could speak, so that you might tell me your troubles."The frog replied, "Actually, I can. You see, I was once a choirboy in this very parish. One day I offended a passing Gypsy, and she put a curse on me that turned me into a talking frog."
"Incredible!" said Father O'Malley. "Is there anything I might do to help you?"
"Actually yes, there is. The Gypsy said that if I can find somebody to take me home and let me sleep in their bed, the curse will be lifted and I'll be back to normal."
"Well," said Father O'Malley, "the good Lord teaches us to be charitable. I think I can manage that."
So Father O'Malley picked up the little frog and put it in his pocket. That night he placed it gently on the pillow beside him and drifted off into a long, dreamy sleep. When he awoke the next morning, the frog had turned back into a choirboy, just as it had said it would.
And that, Your Honor, is the case for the defense...
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We need a Smily for the look that Drabble's father gives him (something like Z( maybe?) In absence of that, perhaps this will do:
Other than that, they run the gamut. Characters from whatever I'm watching or reading wander through...I revisit (a) old familiar places, or (b) places I'm familiar with but have never seen before...dreams where I'm wallowing in a familiar word that begins with "S"...dreams of being frustrated by this or that, usually at work (but I get enough of that in real life).
Not much in the way of nightmares. The last disturbing dream I had---I'd say it was sub-nightmare, though it did wake me up---I was swimming underwater and I had to get to the surface to breathe...only when I reached the surface, instead of bursting through, I found it was a pane of unbreakable glass and I was trapped.
Often, I have the same dream several times in a night, only each time I have the dream, I'm a different character in the dream. In these dreams, though, I'm never in them as myself.
(Drive safe.
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Rules of the Inn
NO THIEVES, FAKIRS, ROGUES
or TINKERS
NO SKULKING LOAFERS or
FLEA-BITTEN TRAMPS
NO 'SLAP an'TICKLE o'THE WENCHES
NO BANGING o'TANKARDS on the TABLES
NO DOGS ALLOWED IN THE KITCHEN
NO COCKFIGHTING
FLINTLOCKS, CUDGELS,
DAGGERS and SWORDS
to be handed to the INNKEEPER
for safe-keeping
Bed for the Night 1 Shilling
Stabling for Horse 4 pence
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Whatever happened to the Archies?
Archie's freckles faded as did his red hair. It started thining to the point where he was bald at thirty. He realized his first big mistake of signing up To be all you can be the first morning when the drill sergent banged metal garbage can lids together. He did his four years and now hangs out near the VA over by the freeway off ramp with a dirty rag and a free offer to clean your windshield.
Jughead learned that a youths metabolism slows down dramatically in your twenties. The thin stick figure double, than tripled his size in ten years. He can be seen on sunny days waddling down the street in a effort to exersize. He walks to the donut shop and back home everyday.
Betty took her good looks to hollywood where she became very aggresive at trying to get noticed. You could see her in the background of some of the paparazzi's photos of the secondary stars of the day. Boomhauser of King of the Hill, Moe of The Simpson's, and Mr Garrett of South Park; too name a few. The last time she made the news was the infamous 911 call that Dilbert made in which she ended up in jail. She was last seen waiting tables at a Denny's in Long Beach.
Reggie ended up on top and married Veronica (the real reason why Archie enlisted). Veronica was used to a life of letting other people do things for her and let her husband managed her family's vast fortune. Reggie proceeded to invest all the money in a can't miss fortune 500 company: Enron. Things got really touchy in the mansion after that. Matters didn't improve when the Mr and Mrs found their counterparts profile on Asheley Madison.
Moose got a scholarship to Nebraska as the football teams left tackle. Prospects were looking up until a NCAA offical happen to peak into his open locker and saw all those vials of steroids. He is currently working in the World Wrestling Alliance as the Masked Maniac.
(My freckles and red hair are still with me, though the latter is thinner and gray at the edges. I'm told I have a bald spot, though I can't see it from here.)
So they totally broke the rules when Sylar got stabbed in the head and then survived it. The rules said that is how you kill him, he killed him, and then he healed.
That said, I'm glad. Sylar is the best thing on that show.
But still. You can't break the rules without an explanation.
~Sheena
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Ever feel you're having your nose rubbed in some aspect of popular culture you're completely unfamiliar with? I don't mean anything with computers or the Internet or cell phones or whatever...they're always coming up with something new that (sometimes) I fail to catch up with.
I mean something that seems to be all over the place but you have no idea what it is. For example: I keep seeing these little white oval stickers on cars...they'll have two or three letters in them...but what are they there for, and what do they mean? That, so far, has eluded me completely...
(Sometimes I find it in others. A couple of months ago, my mother denied any knowledge of "rock, paper, scissors," which others in my family found hard to believe...)
*Edit* Oops... realized after I got home that I hadn't seen the latest episode... you are totally right. Really left me scratching my head.
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And before that, I managed to go several months before finally asking someone what a Blog was.
The little round stickers have abbreviations of place names in them. OBX is Outer Banks, that's the only one I know for sure. It might even be the origin of them, for all I know
It's declaring the location of your beach house...
I think Spongebob is hilarious and sometimes really well done. Hahahahahaha, I must be going crazy.
But they often don't seem to have anything to do with the actual name or nearby place. JFK in New York is JFK, while LaGuardia is LGA, but Newark is EWR---unless I'm misremembering, which is possible because for the past dozen years I've dealt with incoming mail, and the letters are for outgoing mail.
Some of the little round stickers don't seem to match up with anything I'm familiar with. I wouldn't have picked "OBX" for Outer Banks, for instance...
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"Spongebob" seemed to me to be one of those "we know we're in a cartoon so we don't have to behave like real people" cartoons. I don't mind breaking the fourth wall but I do mind cartoons with characters that behave in this way.
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Really? Sylar drives me crazy sometimes. I was esp. annoyed about how the thing with him and Elle ended.
After publically declaring that I hated the way they were trying to turn Sylar into a good guy, I went and totally bought into it, and I'm still upset at how they pulled the carpet out underneath me. I don't think an author could get away with something like that. And I'm still not sure they did get away with it--at least with me.
Melanie
God made cartoons so we would have kids so we can have a good excuse to watch them in are 30's and 40's.
After I realized this I went back and did some major editing. For example, the above paragraph reads much better as four words:
Keep it simple, stupid.
(seriously though, this is one of my major problems >.< )
On Nickelodeon, for me, it's "Spongebob" no, "Hey, Arnold!" yes. On the Cartoon Network, it's "Powerpuff Girls," no, "Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy" yes. (Search my name for the depth of my devotion to one other cartoon show in particular.)
(A lot of ones I like don't last very long. I miss "Mike, Lu, and Og" to this day.)
Nowadays cartoons are just not quite as cool, though it could be just I'm not as cool as I was when I was younger.
Man, I feel like an old person.
~Sheena
I don't think the cartoons are ever - quite - as cool as we remember them. I spent last summer transferring all my old VHS tapes to DVD and there were some cringe-worthy episodes! That said, I miss (the original) My Little Ponies, because the characters were always bursting into song. THAT was awesome.
On the other hand, sampling "The Flinstones" around the same time...they seemed to have lessened. I found the drawing and writing couldn't match either the Warner cartoons, or most of the new TV stuff that was starting to come out.
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Cartoon wise there are a lot of shows I miss.
I hear you:
How many do you remember?
Hmm, and I can think of loads of other programs you didn't list. Maybe I rotted my brain with too much TV when I was a kid...
Of late I've been drawn to three on "Discovery Kids"..."Tutenstein," "Growing Up Creepie," and "The Future is Wild"...though it's been a long time since any of 'em ran a new episode, despite claiming they will practically every day.
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How long between new episodes of a cartoon? There are several steps: [STEP 1] Run the first two episodes as a special. [STEP 2] Repeat both episodes at least twice within a week. [STEP 3] Run the third new episode. [STEP 4] Repeat all three episodes. [STEP 4] Run the fourth new episode. [STEP 5 AND BEYOND] Repeat this cycle until at least thirteen new episodes have been used up.
Do these date me?
My favorite cartoons that are on right now are Little Bear and Phineas and Ferb. I like Spongebob on some days.
Edited to add: I forgot X-men and Batman.
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1.Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies (Chuck Jones, especially)
2.Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain (Spielberg and Warner Brothers - genius and insane)
3.Droopy (kind of a cartoon-slut - has shown up in all major cartoon companies, except - I think - Disney)
4.Hanna-Barbera
- The Flintstones (pre- teen Bam-Bam and Pebbles)
- The Jetsons (Flintstones in the future)
- Scooby-Doo (before Scrappy or Scooby-Dum)
- Tom and Jerry (The Road Runner and Cayote, but funnier)
- The Yogi Bear Show (said Hey, Hey, Hey before Fat Albert)
- Speed Buggy (Scooby-Doo as a car)
- Hong Kong Phooey (Scatman Crothers - the black guy from The Shining - as a wannabe superdog with a clever cat)
- Super Friends (pre- Wonder Twins)
- Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels (Scooby-Doo as a caveman with super powers)
5.Sid and Marty Kroft -
- H.R. Pufnstuff (inspired 70's McDonald's commercials - inspired by Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - kind of)
- Sigmund and the Sea Monsters (Caspar as a giant blob of seaweed)
- Far Out Space Nuts (Gillagan's Island in space - literally - with Bob Denver)
- Dr. Shrinker (kind of like Land of the Giants - another classic)
- Wonderbug (Speed Buggy in real life)
- Land of the Lost (Jurassic Park befor CGI)
6.Deputy Dawg (picture a smart Rosco P. Coltrane as a dog - pre-Dukes)
7.ThunderCats (the best cartoon in the 80's - forget Transformers)
8.Bobby's World (Howie Mandel created this when he still had hair)
9.SpongeBob SquarePants (I resisted as long as I could - resistence is futile)
10.Phineas and Ferb (the best new cartoon - and the best soundtrack too)
Honorable Mention:
- The New Adventures of Flash Gordon (animated Star Wars version of Flash Gordon)
(These are partially in order of preference and partially chronological - there's your "randomness", shimiqua.
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Hong Kong Phooey was a karate-dog and an accidental hero.
What's the matter with the wonder twins? Except one always a form water. Boy what trouble I could get into with those powers: Form of a g-string... 
*Blaskstar was a cross between Planet of the Apes's crashed spaceman and He-man's "Sword of Power" (before He-Man).
This failed to catch on, on the utter refusal of everybody then working in the place to actually say it...
Captain Caveman had actually been out a few years before he appeared on an updated and inferior version of The Flintstones.
1930's and 40's Popeye
Excessively violent and racist to the point of you won't see it on TV anymore but to listen to the mumbling dialog is the best. Some of the funniest things you could ever hear.
Johnny Quest
A family life that would be highly suspicious in today's world but the intro music and storylines were the funnest to watch in the 70's. The Venture brothers on Adult swim is a pretty good spoof on it (they even showed a 50 year old Raji with Johnny in the background on one episode). For an old cartoon, it was kicka**.
Underdog
Okay, it was a very lame take off on Superman. The superdrug/pep pill is definitely not the message you want youngsters to hear these days but it had the greatest intro song ever.
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When criminals in this world appear,
And break the laws and place you fear,
And frighten all you see and hear,
A cry goes out both far and near for
Under-dog!
Underdog!
Under-dog
Underdog!
Speed of lightening,
Roar of thunder,
Fight-ing all who rob or blunder,
Under-dog!
Underdog, Underdog!
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I broke a tooth. And it's raining. Today is not off to a very good start.
Later I missed
Tomorrow People
Blake's Seven
Dr Who
Fawlty Towers
Not the Nine O'Clock news
BTW many of these shows were watched in 'Gasp' Black and White because Mum couldn't afford the colour TV or the colour TV license. And my Grandpa had the biggest Meccano collection I've ever seen.
More will come to me all day
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Johnny QuestA family life that would be highly suspicious in today's world but the intro music and storylines were the funnest to watch in the 70's. The Venture brothers on Adult swim is a pretty good spoof on it (they even showed a 50 year old Raji with Johnny in the background on one episode). For an old cartoon, it was kicka**.
snapper... you did read my list, right? Not only did I have Johnny Quest, I mentioned the "real lips" that they dubbed over the cartoon ones in the original show! LoL
Go-Go Gophers was part of the Underdog show--I figured those who recognized it would know. Kind of like Wally Gator being a part of the (unmentioned) Woody Woodpecker show.
But, you're right, the original Popeye, Looney Tunes, and Flintstones I didn't think needed mentioning, since they're so well known.<shrug>
There are a lot I didn't mention:
I still love the cartoon movies (some of these are NOT for children):
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Will you ever write that many books?
I could start a whole new thread on Quest. What was that quartet about anyway. Two guys traveling the world together (never remembered seeing or hearing about Johnny's mom) and they somehow got a third world young boy to travel with them. Funny they were never in the states. You think Dr. Quest was avoiding the law?
How's that for randomness? Nobody's mentioned hockey yet!
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Even when someone shows them on TV, it's almost always the color ones...or these absolutely dreadful so-called "colorized" versions...but they're not colorized, they've actually been redrawn in color...and extremely poorly drawn as well...
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I remembered another cartoon series from the early 1990s (I think) that I liked but that has disappeared without a trace. "Taz-Mania," another chronicling of the adventures of a Warner Bros. player.
I agree Robert. Those later Popeyes were awful.
"Song of the South" was released on tape and laserdisc (but not DVD) in Japan at some point, maybe Europe, too...but never in the USA. Another variety of problem with "colorization," actually. (I gather some editing was done to later releases of "Fantasia" (and the home version) for this same reason.)
Has "The Reluctant Dragon" ever been released to the home market?
Random Thought:
Don't believe what they tell you... acupuncture does hurt. But in a good way.
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I'm having cable television trouble, where I seem to get the channels on my digital tier only at certain times of the day. I've replaced the cable box. I think it might be a problem somewhere between the wall and the box...but today I tried to get some three-foot cable at two different places, neither of which had what I needed.
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The "vast wasteland" FCC chairman was named Newton Minnow...and the "Minnow," the wrecked ship on "Gilligan's Island," was named after him 'cause the producer / creator Sherwood Schwartz blamed Minnow for ruining the quality of TV of its day.
The third season of Heroes, including the finale, completely blew chunks, and Lost is having one of its best seasons ever (actually two good seasons in a row). Oh, and Battlestar ended by saying "God did it", which I found to be a bit of a cop-out. Not that God couldn't have done it, but it was definitely a "soap-operahish" conclusion.
That's gonna change.
I love to watch people singing along alone in their cars, it makes my day. Why should I deny the world the pleasure of watching someone make a fool of themselves? Even if that fool is me.
~Sheena
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Here's my brilliant solution: If I happen to be stuck at a light, and I'm feeling self-conscious, I'll put my mp3 player next to my ear and pretend like I'm talking on the phone.
If I'm not feeling self-conscious, I'll start dancing in my seat too. Either way, I'm sure I'm entertaining someone!
(I also took my old copy of "Abbey Road" and made Side Two into one big track---something I never could figure out how to do with "Abbey Road" on CD...)
Can anyone explain to me why, when you ask for "just a little bit" of sauce on something, the people serving you are just as likely to dump gobs and gobs of sauce on as to listen to you?
“A smidgen is just a teeeenie, little bit…
3 smidgens make one pinch
4 pinches equals one little bit
4 little bits equal one midlin’ amount
3 midlin’ amounts equal one right smart and it takes 5 right smarts to make a whole heap.”
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Yes, I copied it off some website.
cherries
chocolate
prosciutto
cashews
strawberries
toast. with jam.
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It wasn't always like this...though it's never been easy to prepare a decent meal while also sitting at my typewriter / word processor / computer.
I once made the mistake of eating a bagel with spreadable cheese on it. The cat, in her attempt to steal my breakfast, smacked my bagel with her paw, then walked all over the keyboard, getting cheese EVERYWHERE.
Did I say I've gained weight while writing?
Katie Couric , Charlie Gibson , Brian Williams and a tough old U.S. Marine Sergeant were captured by terrorists in Iraq.
The leader of the terrorists told them he'd grant each of them one last request before they were beheaded and dragged naked through the streets.
Katie Couric said, 'Well, I'm a Southerner, so I'd like one last plate of fried chicken.'
The leader nodded to an underling who left and returned with the chicken.
Couric ate it all and said, 'Now I can die content.'
Charlie Gibson said, 'I'm living in New York, so I'd like to hear the song, The Moon and Me, one last time.'
The terrorist leader nodded to another terrorist who had studied the Western world and knew the music. He returned with some rag-tag musicians and played the song.
Gibson was satisfied.
Brian Williams said, 'I'm a reporter to the end. I want to take out my tape recorder and describe the scene here and what's about to happen. Maybe, someday, someone will hear it and know that I was on the job till the end.'
The leader directed an aide to hand over the tape recorder and Williams dictated his comments.
He then said, 'Now I can die happy.'
The leader turned and said, 'And now, Mr. U.S. Marine, what is your final wish?
'Kick me in the a**,' said the Marine.
'What?' asked the leader, 'Will you mock us in your last hour?'
'No, I'm NOT kidding. I want you to kick me in the a**,' insisted the Marine.
So the leader shoved him into the yard and kicked him in the a**.
The Marine went sprawling, but rolled to his knees, pulled a 9 mm pistol from inside his cammies and shot the leader dead. In the resulting confusion, he emptied his sidearm on six terrorists, then with his knife he slashed the throat of one, and with an AK-47, which he took, sprayed the rest of the terrorists killing another 11. In a flash, all of them were either dead or fleeing for their lives.
As the Marine was untying Couric, Gibson, and Williams, they asked him, 'Why didn't you just shoot them all in the first place? Why did you ask him to kick you in the a**?'
'What?' replied the Marine, 'and have you three a**hole's report that I was the aggressor....?
May the Fourth be with you.
Soft drink drinking, that is. My mainstay is Mountain Dew, which is substituted with Orange Crush and Minute Maid Lemonade, all in cans. Occasionally I throw in a Coke or Pepsi.
PepsiCo has recently introduced something called "Throwback" drinks. I only know about Pepsi and Mountain Dew; maybe there are others. Also I've only seen them in cans.
Ostensibly they're made with "natural sugar"---I don't know just what that is, where they're getting it or how it's processed, but I know they usually use corn syrup rather than refined sugar 'cause of the expense of the latter.
Either way, I tried both the Pepsi and the Mountain Dew---I can't say much different about the Pepsi but the Mountain Dew does have a better taste in my mouth, at least.
Ha! Knew that trip to the Coca-Cola factory in Georgia would come in handy one day :-)
Initial thought: infinitely better than the HFCS-infested Coke Classics I've been drinking...there's no sense of a heavy syrup-y aftertaste.
Pepsi says the Throwback version will be for a limited time. As long as that 'limited' timeframe is set for sometime after the apocalypse, I'll be happy.
BTW...I drink way too much of this stuff while I write.
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I get glass bottles of "regular" Coke all the time...they're for my mother, who won't drink it any other way unless she has to.
I've seen an ad on TV for Pepsi Throwback...didn't say much about it (these things never do), just that it's out there.
They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings.
The teacher asked the president if he would like to lead the discussion
on the word 'tragedy'.
So our illustrious president asked the class for an example of a 'tragedy.'
One little boy stood up and offered: "If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is
playing in the field and a tractor runs over him and kills him, that would be a tragedy."
"No," said Obama, "that would be an accident."
A little girl raised her hand: 'If a school bus carrying 50 children drove over a cliff,
killing everyone inside, that would be a tragedy...'
"I'm afraid not," explained Obama."That's what we would call great loss."
The room went silent. No other children volunteered. Obama searched the room.
"Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?"
Finally at the back of the room, Little Johnny raised his hand. In a quiet voice he said:
"If the plane carrying you and Mrs. Obama was struck by a friendly fire missile and
blown to smithereens that would be a tragedy."
"Fantastic!" exclaimed Obama."That's right. And can you tell me why that would be tragedy?'
"Well," says the boy, "It has to be a tragedy, because it certainly
wouldn't be a great loss... And it probably wouldn't be an accident either."
Random musings is the most popular thread in the history of hatrack. Why? Ask some of the members. Here are some interesting facts that do not include the 17 post behind this one.
Statistics on the first 500 post
Number of members that posted in RM: 36
Who posted the most: Robert Nowall 93 times
(Next closest was IB at 38)
Number of members that posted only once: 6
Number of members that posted at least ten times: 19
Number of members that posted at least twenty times: 10
Number of times KDW posted: 10
Last one to join the thread: Jeff M at post 487
Number of post deleted: 2
Longest post: Inarticulate Babbler (fitting, ain't it?) 910 words on 03/30/09
Keep it up. A thousand is on the way.
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Edited to add - I didn't see your previous post. Still got in after 500
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By the way, the last time I heard InarticulateBabbler's joke, the leader in question was "Comrade Stalin," not "Barack Obama."
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I saw a friend with two black eyes and asked him what happened. He explained that a woman at the mall was walking in front of him with her dress caught in her crack. Trying to be helpful, he reached over and pulled the dress free. The woman turned around and smacked him.
"That's awful," I said. "But how'd you get the other black eye?"
He said, "Well, when I saw how mad she got, I tried to stuff the dress back in there again."
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A ninety-year-old man is sitting on a park bench, sobbing. A young man walks by, and seeing the old man's misery, he stops and asks him what's wrong.
Through his tears the old man answers, "I'm in love with a twenty-five-year-old woman."
"What's wrong with that?" asks the young man.
Between the sobs and sniffles, he answers, "You wouldn't understand. Every morning before she goes to work, we make love. At lunchtime she comes home and we make love again, and then she makes my favorite meal. In the afternoon when she gets a break, she rushes home and gives me oral sex, the best an old man could ever want. And then at suppertime, and all night long, we make love some more."
He breaks down crying again, no longer able to speak.
The young man puts his arm around him. "You're right, I don't understand. It sounds like you have a perfect relationship. Why are you crying?"
Through his tears, the old man answers, "I forget where I live."
This scenario was repeated each time they made love, for more than 30 years, with him thinking that it was a cute way for her to afford new clothes and other incidentals that she needed.
Arriving home around noon one day, she was surprised to find her husband in a very drunken state. During the next few minutes, he explained that his employer was going through a process of corporate downsizing, and he had
been let go. It was unlikely that, at the age of 59, he'd be able to find
another position that paid anywhere near what he'd been earning, and
therefore, they were financially ruined.
Calmly, his wife handed him a bank book which showed more than thirty
years of steady deposits and interest totaling nearly$1 million. Then she
showed him certificates of deposits issued by the bank which were worth over $2 million, and informed him that they were one of the largest depositors in the bank.
She explained that for the more than three decades she had "charged" him for sex, these holdings had multiplied and these were the results of her savings and investments.
Faced with evidence of cash and investments worth over $3 million, her husband was so astounded he could barely speak, but finally he found his voice and blurted out, "If I'd had any idea what you were doing, I would have given you all my business!"
That's when she shot him.
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What did the blonde call her pet zebra?
Spot.
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What's green and slimy and hangs around in trees??
Giraffe snot!!!
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A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is smoking a cigarette, a satisfied smile on its face. The egg is frowning and looking a bit pissed off.
The egg mutters to no one in particular, "Well, I guess we answered THAT question."
So back on random topics, um....
Dwa?
Fwebulp!
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Oh, IB. Are you trying to kill the record?
Nope. Just catch up with Robert. 
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Nope. Just catch up with Robert.
We may need to petition KDW to rename this thread Robert Nowell's/Inarticulate Babbler's Random Musings
I haul cars for a living. I am heading to Toronto this weakend for a show at the convention center. My safety director and dispatcher got in a small arguement with me in the middle.
Ontario instituted a law that all trucks must be governed to go no faster than 65 miles an hour. For those that do not no, that means your engine is set so it cannot go any faster. Now most trucks are governed but are done so at a higher speed (mine is set at 72). According to law, my truck shouldn't even be allowed into the country. My dispatcher claims the Canadian authorities are not enforcing that law UNLESS you get caught going over 65. My safety director thinks otherwise.
These cars MUST be there on time. It is my responsibilty that it is done. Now I know what some of you are saying Why not refuse to take it?
Because work is getting slim. I get paid per load. If I refuse this than they may not consider me for the next. You know, scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
Anyway. Don't know what to do about it. Thanks for letting me to vent.
Ok, this is Jackanory. I grew up watching this show after school everyday and listened to a new story.
Tracy
And found out that I'm definitely not claustrophobic.
Tracy
No, I had the MRI to see if there is something in my brain causing the hearing loss in my left ear that has been happening over the last several years.
I had heard from several people that they had to have valium and other such medication in order to help them deal with their claustrophobia while in the MRI equipment.
I found that I had no problem with it, so I must not be claustrophobic.
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Random musing: Why is dirt brown?
Because it's really worm poop.
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Random musing: Why is dirt brown?
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Because it's really worm poop.
Then why is melange orange?
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Probably I'll be back---I'm only going, weekend to weekend, and should be back a week from Monday, or maybe Sunday night.
So keep it interesting until then...
Although... I'm having a complete mind blank as to what kind of crazy, trash-the-thread party we could have. Suggestions?
Snapper, to make it there on time would you have to go over 65?

Not sure it's possible to trash a random musing thread, anyway. Unless "trash" means something specific in high-tech internet-savvy lingo??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzoXQKumgCw&feature=channel
There you go, you're worst fears confirmed.
"Hello, and welcome to the mental health hotline.
If you are obsessive-compulsive, press 1 repeatedly.
If you are co-dependent, please ask someone to press 2 for you.
If you have multiple personalities, press 3,4,5, and 6.
If you are paranoid, we know who you are and what you want. Stay on the line so we can trace your call.
If you are delusional, press 7 and your call will transferred to the mother ship.
If you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a small voice will tell you which number to press.
If you are manic depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press, no one will answer.
If you have a nervous disorder, please fidget with the hash key until someone comes on the line.
If you are dyslexic, press 6969696969.
If you have amnesia, press 8 and state your name, address, phone number, date of birth, social security number, and your mother's maiden name.
If you have post-traumatic-stress disorder, slowly and carefully press 000.
If you have bipolar disorder, please leave a message after the beep, or before the beep, or after the beep. Please wait for the beep.
If you have short-term memory loss, press 9. If you have short term memory loss, press 9. If you have short term memory loss, press 9. If you have short term memory loss, press 9.
If you have low self esteem, please hang up. All our operators are too busy to talk to you."
Here's a true story:
Once when I was selling cars, a buddy of mine had a very interesting experience with a sales call. The man on the phone was desperate to purchase a car. Typically these calls, referred to in the business as "lay-downs" (you can infer the double-meaning), are a little challenging on the saleperson's part to get approved. My buddy asked him for some information in order to submit a credit application. The man gave all the information required - name, address, income (his was from disability), etc. My buddy thanked the guy and told him it might take a couple of days, but not to submit any more credit apps (multiple inquiries tend to lessen one's chances of getting approved).
With a little work, the finance office got the guy approved. However, when my buddy went to call him back to let him know the good news, someone else answered the phone with these words - "Psych Ward"...
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Ever since then we have recieved about 3-5 phone calls a day for an Ortin Christensen all from robots. Several robots had fake accents. (My favorite is the southern.)
The message goes on for about five minutes, saying if you are Ortin Christensen please press one now, if you are not Ortin Christensen, and you need a moment to retrieve him, please press two now, if... blah blah blah.... five minutes later...If there is no one by that name at this number, please press seven now and an operator will be right with you. This is very important information, please stay on the line.
So I press seven, and the phone rings and rings and rings, never going to a machine, or somewhere I can talk with a real person, and tell them, Ortin Christensen does not in fact live at this address, and is not availible at this number. Please stop calling, EXPECIALLY AFTER TEN P.M.!!
I tell you though, if I ever meet this Ortin fellow, I'm gonna punch him in the head.
(*No offense meant to any Ortin Christensens, living or deceased)
~Sheena
Other odd phone calls: I used to get calls from this older woman who didn't speak English. I'm not sure what language she spoke. Maybe some Indian language. At any rate, she'd leave these extended messages on my answering machine, sounding quite upset. I once picked up the phone when she called and she yelled at me for almost a minute before I could get a word in edgewise. Still not sure if she ever understood me, but at least she stopped calling.
"Can I speak to ___?"
"I'm sorry, there's no one in this office by that name. Are you sure you have the right number?"
"Office?"
"Yes, sir. This is a business number."
"Are you in Guatemala?"
"No, sir, this is Louisville, Kentucky."
"Oh." Embarassed chuckle. "I'm sorry." Hangs up.
I have no idea how you confuse calling Guatemala with Kentucky, but it was the most entertaining thirty seconds of my day so far.
The ultimate was when my wife was helping her dad butcher deer during hunting season. A Bill collector called, and she said, "I can't talk right now, I've got some bloody corpses on the floor!"
Is there any question why I love her? LOL.
The strangest twist on this story is that I adored the phone when I was in college--racking up enormous phone bills--but now I can't think of anything I hate more. I've got an actual phobia of it, I think.
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"Hello."
*voice is of an unfamiliar middle-aged man. I assume it is my friends Dad*
"Hi. Is Eric there? Could you tell him Frank called and I was won..."
"Hello?"
*I raise my voice a bit*
"Uh, yeah. I was saying this is Eric's friend Frank. We were supposed to get together to..."
"HELL-LO-OH!"
*I am now shouting*
"I'm Sorry. Is Eric there? I think the line must be bad. Could you tell him Frank..."
"Listen. I can barely hear you. Why don't you leave a message at the beep."
BEEP
About twelve years ago, I was living in a stereotypical, southern, working-class neighborhood within the city. As I was getting in my car one morning, I looked directly across the street to see the bloody (skinless) carcass of some large beast hanging by a rope from a tree in front of my neighbor's house.
I got out and went to my backyard to make sure my dog was OK. He was. I went up to the street and stood there and debated what I should do. The movies Predator,The Serpent and the Rainbow, and The Godfather flashed across my mind. I ruled out 7 foot aliens, so I figured either someone was practicing voodoo against my neighbor or they were sending him "an offer he couldn't refuse".
I decided my best choice was not to get involved. That evening, when I returned home, I happened to see another neighbor, so I asked him about what I had seen. He got a good laugh!
Apparently, when hunters (which I obviously am not) return with their prey, they must drain the blood from the animal. They do this by somehow hanging the creature above the ground and letting the blood drip from it.
I don't know what surprised me more - that someone would actually choose to do this in the front yard of a crowded neighborhood in the city, or that this had more to do with the movie about the 7 foot alien than it did with my other two choices.
(edited to add "skinless")
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I usually only drink milk, orange juice, or water. My husband makes the same lunch for me every day: P&J sandwich, milk, OJ, carrots, walnuts, spinach.
I used to give Origami animals instead of birthday cards.
My five year old son has moved on from chess and Monolopy, and is now mastering the game of Life. The last time I asked him what he wants to do when he grows up, he asked how he can make the most money. Sigh. So much for train diver and astronaut.
Currently I'm reading Honor's Reward, about how God commands us to honor (respect and value) all people in both attitude and action. Quite thought-provoking. If everyone was on-board, we'd have a perfect world...
My co-worker has no Send button on his email.
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Did you read the entire thread? Even the stuff about cartoons and IB's jokes and Roberts evryday activities?
He got his Send button back.
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If I didn't know better I would think that you must work with IB, and you took away his send button because of his jokes, but then you decided they weren't TOO bad, so you gave it back. Interesting.
Whenever I get on Wikepedia, I am told only gospel fact. Never seen a mistake in my life--at least that I'm aware of.
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Several years ago when my daughter was still a quick moving four-year old, I would head to the local blockbuster to pick up a couple of movies for the evening. Well the little one thought it would be a fun time to start running through the aisles and hiding from me. I would snatch her arm, she would promise to be good, and then run off giggling away for another round of irritate daddy. I caught her for the last time and pulled her into line with me for the register. That is when she went limp in my grip and started to shout 'Help! Help! You're a stranger. A stranger.'
Now I know more than a few people saw how hard of a time she was giving me in the store but not everyone did. Part of me wished that someone would have errored on the side of caution and called the police. It would have served her right. Unfortunetly for me, I was left in a difficult position. I so wanted to come unglued but she had me effectively in check. I fumed all the way home and told my wife what our angel did. Man did she have a laugh.
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The embarassing memory I had was:
I was doing a guest spot in Tilton, New Hampshire, and this guy wanted to fill a thin strip on his shin, but didn't know what with. I--being a smart ass--suggested a flame shooting up his leg into an explosion cloud and a blue eye on either side. He looked at me dumbfounded, so I went further, "You know the joke about what color Christa McAuliffe's eyes are: Blue, one blew this way and one blew that way." Everybody in the tattoo shop went dead-silent.
That's when my wife leaned over and--in a whisper--asked me, "You did see the statue of her when we came into town...right?"
*I'd totally missed it.*
Do you want to edit the top four embarrasing moments post, or shall I?
This is supposed to be a family forum.
They were so sweet, but a little risque for the kids.
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To get you started, here is Jane’s tip:
“If you are able, donate blood to the Blood Bank. Blood donations help save lives.”
And here is Brenda’s advice:
“Where possible, walk instead of driving. The benefits are two-fold as you reduce your carbon footprint and get fit at the same time.”
So, since Jane's tip didn't really specify *human* blood, and Brenda's tip didn't really take into account that if you live 45km from work it's going to take you 11 hours to walk to work, a colleague decided to pitch his own 'tips'. Here's what he sent around...
1. If you are choking on an ice cube, don't panic! Simply pour a cup of boiling water down your throat and presto, the blockage will be almost instantly removed.
2. Clumsy? Avoid cutting yourself while slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them while you chop away.
3. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting the toilet seat by simply using the sink.
4. For high blood pressure sufferers: simply cut yourself and bleed for a few minutes, thus reducing the pressure in your veins. Remember to use a timer.
5. A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
6. If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives. Then you will be afraid to cough.
7. Have a bad toothache? Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will forget about the toothache.
It's not that I am a chicken, I just have really small viens that tend to roll, or just expire when poaked. The viens in my husbands arms are huge, he can fill a bag in seven minutes.
Weirdo. But yeah, once you are on their list they call you all the time to force you to save a life.
~Sheena
I'd donate more often if they didn't have to prick your finger. By all means stab a needle into my arm, I don't care about that. (Really I don't.) But pricking my finger sucks.
I don't actually know what type my blood is...I have an assumption that since my parents were both type O, I am, too...but that's not an absolute certainty, from what I've read...
Negative or positive? [shrugs] I dunno...
And no the bear wasn't type O. He was AB negative and they sent him away because his blood was useless.
Sorry, but since this thread was the one who got the song stuck in my head, I decided to share. If you don't know it, it's to the tune of "Sipping Cider." Now you can have it stuck in your head too!
Know any other good (obnoxious) songs that get stuck in people's heads?
No, I refuse to contribute to the spread of annoying ditties.
I've had more than enough of Little Rabbit Foo-Foo, I don't wanna see you...
It was only a few lines in the book, but, man! the image is just one that stays with you.
No joke - my mom has AB- and my dad has O+. And I actually look very much like my dad - very similar height (or lack thereof), build, and facial features (a baby switch is near impossible).
My college biology professor told me that I must either have a hidden A or B or I could have a mutant gene. I had a blood transfusion back in 2003, so I'm guessing I must be a mutant.
Unfortunately, the mutant blood type didn't come with any cool powers.
(*I know, I know. Bad grammar, but it sounds funnier that way.)
Speaking of bad grammar, There is a national commercial about mouthwash, that has a glaring grammar error. How dumb do they think we are?
~Sheena
"Save up to fifty percent---and more!"
"Someday all our people will have above average incomes."
That said, I woke up at 3am this morning with an agonizing neck ache that actually turned out to be quite productive... I couldn't sleep, so I wrote for a while as I waited for pain meds to kick in. After reading what I wrote, I have decided that writing after taking pain medication is perhaps not the wisest method. Now that stuff was random.
On the bright side, not being able to internet surf meant I got to work half an hour early and had time for a second cup of tea beforehand
Now if there was no internet, no TV and no video gaming, what kind of world would there be????
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I am horrible at remembering what I need to buy at the store, and I can never find my shopping list when I get there.
Now the mosquitos are back.
Kinda defeats what I'm paying for, huh?
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I hate blackflies. You can't even blink in peace with them around.
That was just so true that it had to be printed twice. My house is surrounded, and I can't even go outside without being dive bombed. a million times.
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I hate blackflies. You can't even blink in peace with them around.
Racist! No one ever complains about whiteflies!
And before people start throwing spears (or pikes) at me this is a joke.
Number of members that posted in RM: 39
Who posted the most: Robert Nowall 103 times
Who's next: Inarticulate Babbler 59 (thats over 25% combined)
Next closest: Snapper 40
Number of members that posted only once: 7
Number of members that posted at least ten times: 19
Number of members that posted at least twenty times: 11
Number of members that posted at least thirty times: 7
Number of times KDW posted: 18
Last one to join the thread: BenM at post 585
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Are whiteflies a real thing or were you kidding?
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Is there some magic way you're seeing the post numbers or are you counting.
Nope. Just counted. It took me a few days to do the first 500. I just counted the next 100 for this one.
This is my way of procrastinating. I always thought I would be a great satistical analysit. I have no idea on how to get such a job or if it pays well, however.
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Well, I'll defer to you, snapper. You'll probably eclipse me soon, anyway.
Unlikely. I had a good stretch of time off because of the economy but back to work now. I'm probably not even in third anymore. Unwritten was a couple behind me at 600 and may have passed me by now.
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Speaking of AF1 - my home town airport in Roanoke, Virginia is a training site for AF1 pilots. They are trained to fly below RADAR. If everyone thought the fly-overs in NYC were eerie, they should watch one of these things fly below radar and make 90 degree turns!
I got to get to work. Got 12 days today and tomorrow. Yuck.
I almost ran over a snake today. I swerved to avoid it. Why? It looked like a copperhead...
Speaking of very large birds the other day there was giant, deadly, violent, ostrich cousin running loose in my city. The news decided to tell me this after the entertainment news! "There's a dangerous creature running loose in a certain county, we'll tell you which one and what people can do to survive an attack from such an animal which regularly kills people in Africa after a commercial for Zoloft and a story about a certain actor cussing out a member of his crew a year ago, everyone knows about this but we thought we'd remind you since the movie is opening this weekend, and we want to see if us talking about it can lower ticket sales, because we are power hungry journalists who want to rule the world Mwahahahahahahah. Sorry guys I kinda let that get away from me, but you went to commercial, right . . . RIGHT!?"
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(gets some points for 1) living and 2) style but docked for 1) nearly getting hit in the first place and 2) losing his fish...)
It didn't scare any birds away, but it did attract an owl, the biggest owl I've ever seen outside of a zoo. It sat on the neighbor's roof for about three days, hooting constantanly, then went away...disappointed.
On a related (but random) note - has anyone ever purchased something and either the total cost or change comes up as 666 in some form?
I find those moments to be very awkward...not that this happens to me a lot.
666 always makes me think of 1666 and what all those poor Londoners must have thought as their entire city burnt down around them...
1066 Battle of Hastings.
So from that poll, the information is reliable. Everyone always gets orange chicken.
My husband is the exception to that rule, but he always eats some of mine, so that still counts.
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A Rush fanatic friend of mine recently posted a photo of a store receipt from a recent purchase she made. Didn't seem that big of a deal, except that her total came to $21.12.
(NOTE: this blog was originally written on a music board, so they knew that 2112 was one of Rush's most renowned albums)
I find it intriguing how often we find friendly and familiar numbers seemingly wherever we look. Back when I first decided to take the number 46 for football, softball, and street hockey, it crossed my sight on a regular basis. I originally started this essay to share my thoughts on how our subconscious strives to bring the friendly and the familiar into our daily life, but I got derailed by the unfortunate reverse side to this concept.
There are those who feel it is their duty in life to point out how your way of living or your belief system does not equate to theirs, and therefore must be exposed as evil. Yep, I'm talking about those whose subconscious allows them to see and hear things that they fear and hate, thus taking the concept of: "If you want to see something strongly enough, you'll see it" to an extreme is really shouldn't be taken. Same goes for hearing what you want to hear; if you ever find yourself in a debate, and your opponent bases his or her justifications on something you didn't say, chances are you really didn't say it, but he/she certainly heard it.
I've got plenty of examples to draw from. One of my personal favorites comes from my cashiering days. My home store (located a mile from the U of Maryland campus) would occasionally send me to a particular D.C. store on Sundays to help out. I got paid double-time for Sunday work, so I didn't mind in the least. This particular store just happened to be a block away from a Baptist church. Having grown up in a Baptist church-going house, I'm all too familiar with how charged up the congregation gets after Sunday church service, so it was not unusual for me to be preached to by these customers during my shift.
One of my favorite customer exchanges of all time came from one such gentleman:
Steve: "How are you doing today, sir?"
Customer: "Fantastic! And, you?"
Steve: "Doing good."
Customer: "How can you say that you're having a great life when you have not accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?"
To this day, you can still see the scar on the bottom of my chin where my jaw dropped to the floor. How far beyond left field did that comment come from?
Oh, yeah...now I remember...our subconscious allows us to hear what we want to hear. Whether it was actually said or not. This guy was living proof of that concept.
Some people really need to stop doing that.
My mind dove head-first into flashback mode, and it took some doing to get my concentration back to the intended topic.
My friend's receipt experience.
Seeing the friendly and the familiar.
People seeing things they fear.
The unfriendly and the way too familiar.
Uh-oh.
Let's try this again.
My friend's receipt experience.
Hey, wait...I have my own receipt story!
And it happened at the same store as my "great life" story.
What a surprise.
One guy, having come to the store straight from church, went through my line. I rang up his order, took his money, then announced that his change was---and, folks, I could not have made this up on the fly in a million years---$6.66.
He recoiled his hand and retreated out of the store in record time.
I've got a better idea. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have a subconscious.
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There's an eclectic Chinese buffet we like; it has pizza, sushi, American, & Chinese. I've seen squid, baby octopii, giant crayfish, whole fish staring up at me, you name it, they've tried it. But not me. I stick to the American in that place.
I always look at the clock at 12:34 p.m. It's in my scheduale now, everyday after lunch I look up at the clock and say, what time is it?, and presto every day it is 12:34. (and no the clock is working) I also notice 9:11, though not as much as 12:34.
~Sheena

I wonder if there is anyone here old enough to have a problem with 12:07.
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When you said "Rush fan" I thought you were talking about Rush Limbaugh. I'd forgotten all about the band...
And if you're really lucky, soon you'll have forgotten all about the man too.
It's funny how we can get wrapped up in anniversaries of significant events from our pasts. 4/16, 4/20, 7/7 (betraying my relative youth here) also come to mind, though the event doesn't always have to be universally important. I once read a trial record where this guy swore something happened on a certain date - he knew for sure, because it was the day after his favorite horse died!
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I wonder if there is anyone here old enough to have a problem with 12:07.
Yeah. You needn't have lived through it, to remember it, and have a problem with it. Even Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto had a problem with it.
I have a lingering distaste for 8:04--one of my best friends was blown away two weeks (to the day) before my birthday; almost another week and he would have made another year older.
(as to 9:11 and 12:07, why can't bad things ever happen on the 31st so we can be free to enjoy our digital clocks!)
I've never experienced it. But I've often wondered about it.
I have other reasons for not being fond of 12/8...
*****
They tell me "A113" was the number of the classroom in Cal Arts where a lot of these animation guys first met up.
*****
Forty-eight.
I recently bought a "warm" flourescent. It still turned my yellow walls green.
At home we have almost all flourescent bulbs; my hubby wanted to go green. At least our house has lots of windows.
How do you decorate your workspace? I have little 3D cardboard dinosaurs, and a towel that says "May the Lord keep you in His hand and never close His fist too tight on you." Family photos and art/writing by my little boy. A Jesus fish, and a painting of fishes (where a window should be). And a hilarious one-pager about project miscommunication and mismanagement. The papers are piling higher every day... Back to work.

*as always, the voice of dissent*
I memorized which ones carry West Nile, just in case anyone asked. No one has. Guess now that Swine Flu is all the rage, no one cares about West Nile anymore. Sigh.
All those animals are out to get us.
Could people predict how serious you are at your writing on any given day based on which threads you frequent on Hatrack? Or is it just me?
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Imagine if 9:11 were your birthday. How do you suppose it would feel when that day rolls around and instead of celebration you find the whole world is in mourning?
True story: I may have already told this story but here it goes...
I wanted to do something special for our 10th anniversity. I started putting a little bit of money away, every chance I got, for a couple of years. Finally I had enough for a trip to Hawaii and planned on giving it to her on her birthday. And what day would that be, you may ask.
September 11th 2001
What a day to get plane tickets for a present.
The main personal decoration in my work space is a bunch of postcards (all sent by me to my usual coworker) and a baseball-themed calendar (provided by said coworker). Other than that, everything is utilitarian, needed for the job, and so on.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #1 – ‘Proof By Induction’
Obtain a large power transformer.
Find someone who does not believe your theorems.
Get this person to hold the terminals on the HV side of the transformer.
Apply 25000 volts AC to the LV side of the transformer.
Repeat step (4) until they agree with the theorem.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #2 – ‘Proof By Contradiction’
State your theorem.
Wait for someone to disagree.
Contradict them.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #3 – Fire Proof
Summon all your inferiors for a departmental meeting.
Present your theorem.
Fire those who disagree.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #4 – The Famous Water Proof
State your theorem.
Wait for someone to disagree.
Drown them.
This is closely related to the ‘bullet’ proof, but is easier to make look like an accident.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #5 – Idiot Proof
State your theorem.
Write exhaustive documentation with glossy color pictures and arrows about which bit goes where.
Challenge anyone to not understand it.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #6 – Child Proof
State your theorem.
Encapsulate it in epoxy and shape it into an ellipsoid.
Put it in a jar with all the other proofs (one with one of those Press-to-Open lids).
Give it to a professor and challenge him to open it.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #7 – Rabbit Proof
Generate theorems at an altogether startling rate, much faster than anybody is able to refute them.
Use up everybody else’s paper.
Run away at the slightest sign of danger.
PROOF TECHNIQUE #8 – Fool Proof
State your theorem.
Invite colleagues to comment.
If they don’t agree, exclaim loudly, “You fools!”

Other than that, it's jam-packed with papers, books, magazines, disks, file folders, and whatnot. I try to clean it occasionally, but it usually gets back the way it was in a couple of weeks.
Actually I call it my "office," but it's really another bedroom (one of three). (The "other" other bedroom is my "library," and that's in nearly-as-bad a state as my "office.")
My most recent roommate and I had so many books at one point that we had six bookcases between the two of us, not counting the piles of our (combined total of) about 300 library books and the closet that we crammed full of boxes of books that we got from a retiring professor (we had to bring in the minivan to pick them all up from his office.) During our free time, we took to building book castles in our empty floor space :-)
Steel whiteboards. I can write things on the walls and magnet other things. It will be fantabulous. That is the true reason why I want to make a living as a writer, so I can justify such a thing.
Also the proof I use is the Demmuggledited one:
State your theorem
Then if anyone tries to argue against you start talking in a bizar way, act as if you are making sense
continue till you have your opponent questioning their own sanity.
(helps if you have others to agree with you're jabber)
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Could people predict how serious you are at your writing on any given day based on which threads you frequent on Hatrack?
I figure the total number of books / magazines in my house is approaching ten thousand. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Do they have seasonal defective disorder for people who get too much sunlight?
Number of members that posted in RM: 43
Who posted the most: Robert Nowall 126 times
The next five:
Inarticulate Babbler 67
Unwritten 51
Snapper 46
Shimiqua 37
Zero 37
Number of members that posted only once: 9
Number of members that posted at least twenty times: 11
Number of members that posted at least thirty times: 8
Number of times KDW posted: 19
Last one to join the thread: Kendrlynne at post 698
The last time RFWII posted before he fell off the face of the earth: 404
Hatrackers you may be surprised to know that never posted in RM:
Talespinner, Crystal Stevens, Bored Crow, Merlion-Emrys, and debhoag.
Thanks for posting when we are at a new century mark. Makes my job easier.
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I'm having a rotten day, and I am fishing for some sympathy. I lost the keys to a loaner car, and so I've been stuck at home all day long until my husband can get to the dealer and get another set of keys. Whether or not I have anywhere to go, I hate feeling trapped.
And I am on Day 3 of midsomer madness, and it's very obvious that all the great scenes I have planned out in my head are not the same thing as a plot.
What I need is to sit down with someone who will ask me the tough questions.
Tough questions: Who is God? What is the meaning of life? Are we more than just a bag full of chemicals and electrical impulses? (I know my answers, but many would not agree.)
Oh, wrong type of questions...
So, um, what does your character want? What will get in his way? How will he fail? How will he change? Who will stand against him? How will he fail again? What builds up to the grand climax? What will be his last big struggle, where he saves the day?
Yeah, if only it was that easy...
I had to take a break and vent that, thanks.
If you need tough questions, I'm your man. Of course, we'll have to arrange a time for them--I've got a busy day today (headed toward Brunswick to do some work), but tomorrow will be better.
Thanks alot for bringing up those traumatic memories.
And philocinemas, your "I hope it didn't have a microchip" was an exact quote from the salesman who had let me use the car in the first place.
My son lost his Nintendo DS for a couple of days recently in much the same way. I was not too happy with him at the time, but I certainly was relieved when he found it. My 2-day lecture to him while searching for it was worse punishment for him than the possibility of never seeing the game system again.
I think I've told my black widow story before, but for those who haven't heard it...
I was walking through my apartment about 11-12 years ago and thought I saw a piece of lent on the floor in a darkened hallway. I picked it up and walked to the bathroom to throw it in the trash. When it started moving, I dropped it in the sink. I saw that it was a spider, so I proceeded grab some tissue paper to smash it without examining it in detail first. After I lifted up the flattened arachnid, I saw that it had a red hour-glass on its underside. I called the emergency room at my local hospital and asked if I would have felt it if it had bitten me. They said I might not feel it and that I should probably come in. I spent an hour and a half in the emergency room, without admitting myself, to see if I showed any symptoms of being poisoned. I never did, so it apparently never bit me in the 20-30 seconds I carried it through my apartment.
philocinemas, I'm glad you escaped your ordeal with no bite. My mom was bitten by a black widow. She said she could feel the poison burning and it traveled up her veins. No fun at all. Plus, she said that wasn't even the worst part. It's a neurotoxin so it made her anxious for weeks, like, pace-around-the-house-turning-lights-on-and-off-semi-nuerotic anxious. Crazy stuff.
On another note, I just have to say that I love reading posts in this forum because everyone proofreads their comments.
Other forms you seesoooooo many psots that lookc more liake this adn nooone seems to careat all.
Drives me crazy though.
No idea where this first came from, but even after several years I'm still amazed I can read the thing.
Edited to add: come to think of it, the story he's in is in the public domain (I think), and writing a story from his point of view could be done. Whether I (or anyone else, for that matter)think it should be or not is another question, however.
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Has skadder posted?
Yep, three times. He was one of those prairie dog poster’s. Sticks his head up to see what is going on then disappear for a while. Other prairie dogs…
BentTree – 10
Aspirit – 12
Tnwilz – 14
Annepin – 6
Their posts are grouped in clumps. They participate then go away. Sometimes they return for another peek.
The curious thing I found about the other five names is that you see them everywhere else on hatrack. Full time members they greet, comment in F&F, and offer opinions in the Writing section. Just not here.
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Wow Snapper, are you an accountant at heart?
Ugh. I considered becoming one of those. I believe I have the patience and organizational talents that fit but when I got a brief look I came to the conclusion that it was a Stepford job. The kind that turns you into a perfect citizen but you lose the thing that makes you human. Like fun. My brother proved my point when he became one. He used to be such a happy and an alive guy. Now he’d make a nice cardboard cut out for a politician. He has this pasted on smile, is always guarded on what he says and is careful to not make a public spectacle. He doesn’t take anything that could ever be construed as a risk anymore. No more dancing with a lamp shades on his head these days.
His house is three times the size of mine though. Maybe he has it right and I don’t.
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Thanks to all of you who frequent Hatrack; what a wonderful forum!
And thank you, MrsBrown. We really enjoy your company. A late joiner that has dove right into the thread. Another is Kitti she first joined at post 324 but didn’t post her second until post 427. She posted 30 more of the posts between then and post 700. That made her responsible for 11.1 % of the posts in that space. That’s Robert Nowall territory!
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come to think of it, the story he's in is in the public domain (I think), and writing a story from his point of view could be done. Whether I (or anyone else, for that matter)think it should be or not is another question, however.
Dang it, that was my brilliant idea, I've been working on it for years. Now you go and share it with a bunch of writers, some of them are actually capable of carrying it off. (Just kidding, but I have been working on a Renfield novel.)
- Office Space
"Michael, we don't have a lot of time on this earth! We weren't meant to spend it this way. Human beings were not meant to sit in little cubicles staring at computer screens all day, filling out useless forms and listening to eight different bosses drone on about about mission statements." -- Peter Gibbons
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I'm e-mailing you IB.
I can just imagine:
Dear Alice, nice to hear from you. Who's Alice? I'm glad your cat is feeling better. Cat? Where'd that come from? The books you asked about are on the way. Hope you like them. Can you explain how the books relate? I'll write more next time. I should think so!
Love,
Ruth 
Yeah, I wouldn't want to print that one. Poor Alice!
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It's supposed to be implemented tonight---and it's my day off. From gossip among ourselves, we give it a week, tops.
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On another note, I just have to say that I love reading posts in this forum because everyone proofreads their comments.
And now, you can see why every one is so careful. One misplaced comma, and your authenticity as a writer is shot.
Mrs. Brown, that was so funny!
Melanie
Dear Alice, nice to hear from you. Too much backstory. Start when the action starts I'm glad your cat is feeling better. Cat? Where'd that come from? The books you asked about are on the way. Hope you like them. Can you explain how the books relate? I'll write more next time. POV!!!If you are writing in deep 3rd, how can she know if she'll write again?
Love,
Ruth
You know you are really a writer when you send your personal letters in for critique. You know you're on Hatrack when you actually get one.
~Sheena
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The first I heard of it was Joe Frazier's upset of Mohammed Ali.
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But none of the sites were helpful in answering the burning question of "who was the first person to say this?"
Williams was just reading the script.But anyway, I bet you ten to one the quote was in play before that, as others have suggested.
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No, IB, satate meant the genie.Williams was just reading the script.
I hate to break it to you, Zero, but Robin Williams never just reads a script. You wouldn't believe how much he adlibs.
And, on the other side of that arguement, the genie didn't say anything...he's a drawing--Robin Williams did all the talking.
Long Live Frodo!
A lot of what he does is allusion to something someone else said, so I suspect that he was alluding to the Frazier/Ali upset remark. And those people who "get it" with each of the things he does like that have an extra little bit of enjoyment of his "schtick."
[added] Not just friends but former college roommates.
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That reminds me of my theory of comics. There are three varieties (really four, but the fourth kinds isn't funny so I don't consider them comics) The first is the Alpha comic, when they are with other comics they beat them into submission. (Which means the other comics can't say their jokes because they are laughing too hard.) Robin Williams is an alpha comic, as is Rosie O'Donnell (which is why she had such a hard time on the view, she never let anyone else talk.) The Rocket Man guy is the most powerful I've seen. I'd like to see him face off with Williams.
Then there are Beta comics, Beta comics want to be Alpha comics but they aren't good enough. I feel for Beta comics because they are always so frustrated when in the presence of a true Alpha.
Gamma comics are secure with themselves and their position, they know they are going to get their joke in, they also know when to get their jokes in (like when Robin Williams takes a breath) They just sit back and wait for the opportunity. These make the best talk show hosts.
Then again, I've got the first four seasons of "SNL" on DVD...I watch their stuff, particularly the Weekend Update segments, and think: Did I really think this was funny back then?
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Saw an odd reference to Rosie O'Donnell the other day. I was reading a biography of Curtis LeMay. (You may have heard the stereotype, but, like all of them, the real story behind it is more complex and interesting.)
The relative quote is this: "Within days of the Japanese surrender, LeMay, Rosie O'Donnell, and Barney Giles were ordered to fly three B-29s back to the States." I read that, and said, "WHAT?"
A quick look in the index pointed me to an earlier reference I had missed, to one Wing Commander Emmett "Rosie" O'Donnell, "a native New Yorker with a thick Brooklyn accent." Mystery solved...though I wonder if that Rosie O'Donnell is related to the Rosie O'Donnell we all know, and, well, know.
Did you know that Harland Williams once glued his shoes to the Eiffel Tower?
I once forgot to bring my flute on a band trip to another state.
Or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2F_3BS6QSY&feature=related
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One time my friend's older brother terrorized us with his shotgun, pointing it at us and threatening to fire it. It was unloaded, but what an idiot.
I used to be afraid there was a demon in the attic--down the hall from my bedroom. I had to pass its hiding place on my way to bed. And sometimes I imagined a group of them on the roof above my bed, sawing a circular hole so they could drop in (they were a smaller variety). What a pleasant childhood memory.
Enough randomness for one post...
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Or did I say that already in this thread?
Just making a reference point.
quote:that gave me a very funny visual, until I reoriented on what you meant ;0
play the piano by ear
I wonder if I should give the director's cut of Highlander II a chance? I found the theatrical version painful during the one and only time I ever watched it.
There's always tomorrow.
RFW2nd
(1) It took me twenty minutes to find my older one (which didn't work as well, and I occasionally cut myself on the ragged edge) and carry on opening the tunafish cans.
(2) When it broke, I got vegetable oil all over one of my good work shirts; I washed it right away but the stain didn't come out; I washed it again this morning, hoping for the best.
(3) I searched the online store of Brookstone, which is where I got the can opener in the first place. Near as I could tell, they don't carry that particular model (something I knew from going in their retail stores), but their online store doesn't carry any manual can openers. ('Tisn't the first time Brookstone stopped carrying something I wanted to buy: I had to get new Mindfolds direct from the manufacturer. But I have no idea who made these particular can openers.)
(4) I'll have to go out and buy a new, and maybe inadequate, substitute can opener right away.
I had a popcorn bowl that was perfect. It was dropped and a crack developed (it was made out of melamine), ruining it.
I didn't even buy it in the state I currently live.
Life can be a real trial.
*waits*
Maybe it won't take until I hit the submit reply button.
It's a pity when the things we love die, even though they didn't live in the first place. Like I remember when I invented the electric toaster . . . last Tuesday . . . and I came out of my workshop hungry for something buttery. So I went to the kitchen put some bread into the silver shiny thing that came with the house and turned on the tv. As I munched my victory lunch a program came on about inventors. Needles to say when it started talking about the electric toaster being invented in 1893 I started crying.
Tears of Joy! This meant that I would also, someday, invent a time machine. Nobel prize and caveman wife here I come.
On an unrelated note I once stuck my tongue to a spoon full of dry Ice. On a related note try pressing dry ice onto a piece of steel.
My other grandparents had a philosophy that I am currently clinging to: the easiest way to keep your home decluttered is to throw away everything that breaks during a move. <ommm... summoning the decluttered home...>
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They're not random, just uncomfortable.
They're random for me; it's not everyday my @$$ can communicate with Chewbacca--let alone make him cry. It surprises me every time.
(My mother uses a can opener, that, when I tried it, I always cut myself on the protruding lid.)
Meanwhile...my main TV blinks on and off for up to twenty minutes after I turn it on and the colors are all off when it settles down...my dishwasher seems not to be cleaning the dishes as well as I think it should...my cable TV signal seems to lose certain digital channels as the sun goes up and the cables and connections get warm...and my DVD recorder seems to be filling up the disks after only a couple of half-hour programs.
Ah, well...I'm actively shopping for a new TV, what with the old one being technologically obsolete besides the problems...my cable TV problems will wait until I get that new TV 'cause they may be connected to the old TV breakdown...I have another DVD recorder I can move to the other room...and I added some rinse agent to the dishwasher yesterday, which may improve the situation.
My daughter: I've got a good idea for dinner. Can I make my good idea? Can you make mashed potatoes? Could you look up a recipe for me? Oh yeah, I know, all I've got to do is peel mashed potatoes, put them in a pot, wait for them to boil then dump the water out and mash them.
Me: OK. If you go get the potatoes you can make them.
My daughter: Yes! You said I couldn't cook til I was 10. (She's 6)
Me: Well, I'm going to help you, of course.
My daughter: NO! It's not fair. *Stomp. Stomp. Stomp.* Can Grammy and Grampy eat with us tonight, cause tomorrow they're leaving.
Me: I think they're already gone.
My daughter: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You are so mean! 5 plus 2 equals 7 OR 4 plus 3. Or 1 plus.... I got them. Now I'm going to peel them. Mommy where's the peeler? I can't find the peeler. MOM! Ooh...what's this drink? Can I have a taste of it?
She's the only child who was supposed to be outside. Of course, she's the only one inside.
Only my father-in-law was home. From his old reclining chair in the family room, he smirked at my glee and gave me permission to use the kitchen.
I bolted to the stove. I opened a cabinet. I stared inside.
"Poppa, I use a pan to cook eggs, right?"
"Yes. Bottom left cabinet."
"Thanks. Umm... Do I use oil or butter?"
My father-in-law made me eggs that day.
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Other prairie dogs…BentTree – 10
Aspirit – 12
Tnwilz – 14
Annepin – 6Their posts are grouped in clumps. They participate then go away. Sometimes they return for another peek.
The curious thing I found about the other five names is that you see them everywhere else on hatrack. Full time members they greet, comment in F&F, and offer opinions in the Writing section. Just not here.
Here's 14.
Do you really think I want to leave proof I'm not being productive?
Anyway, prairie dogs are cute. I wish to transform into one of the old, fat dogs that sits on a mound. That's after I finish a novel, of course. (2029?)
No guarantees on accuracy. It's a great example of what a dog might think is funny, though.
This is 15. I'm going to bed now.
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Who wrote the song "Thank Heaven for Little Girls"?
Alan Jay Lerner and Frederick Loewe.
(because you wanted to know. You just didn’t know you wanted to know)
Gabe Kaplan (Mr. Kotter): champion professional poker player and does stand-up comedy gigs.
John Travolta (Barbarino): Movie superstar
Robert Hegyes (Epstein): Teaches screenwriting and acting at colleges and high schools in California.
Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs (“Boom Boom” Washington): occasional movie/TV appearance, and writes movie/TV theme music. As a keyboardist, has released a couple of albums. (I would’ve thought he’d play bass, not piano...)
Ron Palillo (Horseshack): Illustrates children’s books and still gets the occasional acting gig.
Marcia Strassman (Julie Kotter): TV and film actress. Involved with numerous causes (AIDS, cancer, children’s).
John Sylvester White (Mr. Woodman): passed away in 1988 (cancer).
I was reading a newspaper and I heard some whispering--from my foot.
I am fairly certain that the cells of my body have had enough of 'working together as a community', as they said, and have decided to all go their seperate ways.
What's to become of me?
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Secretly isn't just another adverb. It's a super adverb. It is in fact the greatest adverb ever invented. So..
Yeah....
It so totally counts.
~Sheena
P.S. I'm aware that totally is also an adverb. It is Secretly's super friend. Have you not heard of the secretly totally awesome group of super words, with their amazing super powered awesomeness? Frankly, I'm surprised.
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But does the internet love you????
If you go to the right websites it does....at least that's what I heard...
Ah, well, at least the add-a-word thread finally died...
Next Full Moon July 7th at 0921 UTC.
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- It's supposed to be 106 degrees here today.
haha, just kidding. Although your kids might think getting blown around is great fun....
*sigh*
No I don’t eat kids, I eat hippies, and babies, kids just taste bad.
Anyway
I have come to the conclusion that no matter how clean your house is, how clean your NCO’S say it is, the F*^@!#% Sergeant Major will always find something wrong with it.
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Quinoa.
It just tastes sooo much better when I reheat it for lunch the next day. What manner of witchcraft makes quinoa go from a bland (if somewhat bitter), fairly unappetizing grain to a tasty alternative to rice just by spending the night in my refrigerator???
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I did cut the lawn this morning. Weedwhacking too. Took from 7:20 AM to 9:30 AM...after which I was completely drained.
Meanwhile on other fronts, I bought a new TV this afternoon. Was this the thread I mentioned my blinking TV problems on? After eight hundred plus posts I forget...
Was it the whole band? I thought there was something a few years ago about Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman touring as "Bachman-Cummings" because they couldn't use the Guess Who name. Maybe all parties concerned have (figuratively) kissed and made up?
So here they are, in a hockey arena in small-ish town in Canada on a weekday night after doing who knows how many shows over the past month or two on this tour, not to mention having done this over and over again for the past 35 years... and they nailed it!
The music was flawless, they were funny and engaging, and there was such energy and electricity to their performance. As I was leaving, I thought, man these guys are professionals. 
Testament. Hands down, the best live show I have ever seen--based on the band/crowd involvement, and being as tight as on the albums.
Great White, is second to Testament for frugal setups and winning the crowd vote.
KISS. For pushing the stunts and trademarks.
W.A.S.P. - Blackie Lawless once had pyrotechnics in a sports cup go awry, giving him burns--and a great scare that his goose (and its eggs) were cooked.
Iron Maiden. Internationally famous for their stage show, including a 3-D version of the album cover they're performing (and past albums). Huge.
Motley Crue. Again pushing the limits of stage show. They became famous for Tommy Lee's spinning drums (a stunt one-upped by Joey Jordison of Slipknot).
Rob Zombie usually has a multitude of pyrotechnics, accessories and dancing girls.
Pantera used to have a great show. (RIP Dimebag Darrel!)
And, the mother of all stage shows (not for the easily offended): GWAR. 'nuff said.
Last, but not least, a man who made his career on shocking antics (although he mostly does jumping jacks nowadays): Ozzy Osbourne.
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I miss the days of Dio and Bruce.
I keep missing a Fox News promo where some show or other is going to have a guest band Creedence. Do they mean whatever's left of Creedence Clearwater Revival? Or did I just mishear and did they really say Creed? Or is it some other band altogether? (And why is a rock band on a news channel in the first place?)
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My new TV came about two and a half hours ago. Picture looks good. I'll have to work with it some...have to arrange to pick up the HD channels...in a few weeks, maybe get some new DVD players...
But mainly I have to get the old one-hundred-fifty-pound TV off the cart I have it on...
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Yes was amazing in their heyday, and they can still nail it, for sure. Their best work, IMO, was on Close to the Edge, though the Relayer album was very underappreciated. Owner of a Lonely Heart and its containing album was only Yes by coincidence, so I don't include it.
Trivia Time: I once heard it said (no idea whether it's true or not) that Jon Anderson considered the lyrics to be part of the instrumentation. The meaning of the words was not as important as how each word sounded with the other instruments. He thus took "voicing" of the vocals to mean the same thing it means when one speaks of the "voicing" of an instrument. Very interesting. If you listen to their work with that in mind, you can hear the truth of it whether it was a conscious effort on his part or not.
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Somehow I am more saddened by Fawcett and her positive attitude than M. Jackson and his addled attitude.
Thriller
I love his music, and although I am not one of those super fans. He was a legend, and it is kind of sad to me to hear a legend died, and from something so ordinary.
Do you know of a single person who is so famous, or infamous?
I have nothing but pity for that freaky talented manchild.
All this before the Michael Jackson media circus kicked in. Given his position in pop culture, I'm not surprised at the reaction...outside of political figures, expect this kind of treatment for Paul and Ringo...maybe for Elton...Jacko might've gotten it if he'd died a lingering death, like Farrah...for any other show biz figure, it'll need something more. "Sudden" is good as always.
Fortunately, I imagine he has alienated enough of the people who would typically be the ones to put his image on a velvet wallpiece.
[edited 'cause I just said "wall" when I should've said more.]
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As for the body - I haven't seen a body, have you?
also Billy Mays was found dead in his house yesterday. everyone seems to be dieing. Damn
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This thread is really long.
That was kind of the point, wasn't it?
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They're dropping like flies. I heard this morning that Gale Storm died...I heard this afternoon Fred Travalena died. Now a lot of you may not remember them, one being big in the, well, mostly the seventies, and the other being very big in the fifties. (I think if Gale Storm had died fifty years ago the equivalent media storm would've been about as big as the Michael Jackson thing today.)
Billy Mays. My heart stopped when I heard the news. I thought Willy Mays, the SF Giant. I am a Giants fan. Billy Mays drove (and will continue to drive) my wife crazy with his irritatingly loud barking. I'm sad to see anyone go, but give me a choice... he was only 49. A mere lad.
(This is only if they're easily identifiable in the commercial. When Phil Hartman was shot to death by his wife, I kept hearing his very recognizable voice in commercials for about six months or so after.)
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It is very, very hard to eat marshmallows through a ski mask.
Elementary. Just sublimate the marshmallows and inhale the yummy marshmallow vapour through the ski mask.
Done and done.
I wonder who the next "King" will be It went from Nat Cole to Elvis to Micheal Jackson. Personally I think there is some fairy work going on there.
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Elementary. Just sublimate the marshmallows and inhale the yummy marshmallow vapour through the ski mask.
Anyone know the best way to clean gooey marshmallow vapours out of a ski mask?
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If you want to get marshmallow goo out of a ski mask, I'd recommend washing it.
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Anyone know the best way to clean gooey marshmallow vapours out of a ski mask?

Now that I think of it, if you look at all the industries put together, Harry Potter has been that iconic. Funny that the internet would bring readers together but split music apart.
However, Lady Gaga has that solved. You just have to hear Pokerface once and the tune will be seared into your brain and it will stay there forever. 
Melanie
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Winnie the Pooh meets Apocalypse Now (Apocalypse Pooh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj_YPJvia8A
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He was standing on the sidewalk talking to a hedge.
Now that's grist.
Any sane person would know that hedges are nocturnal.
Hope he didn't rouse it--there'd be hell to pay.
I wonder right now, and may wonder for some time, whether I should have gone with my feelings and said something to her.
What's black and white and comes in little cans?
Zombie Michael Jackson.
I've heard that the best thing to do is approach the woman as if she is the victim, not the kid. "Can I help you? Are you all right? It's hard doing any shopping with a kid. Would you like to sit down for a minute?" And so on, because that kind of response is less likely to put her on the defensive and lead her to really take it out on the kid later.
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Oh, and ready yourselves for all the conspiracy-theorists who are going to say he is not really dead and this has all been staged. (We're going to hear about this for the next 40 years)
Sounds like you know something I don't. Were you actually present at his 'death'?
Hey! *calls to everyone else*
Philocinemas was actually present at Michael Jackson's death and can confirm he didn't die!
(let the chinese whispers begin!)
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I agree that saying something in the store might make things worse. Chances are the mother will feel a "see! you embarrassed me!" type of thing.
Dude I just saw a sheep on a ship shave a man hanging from from a cliff with a telescoping razor. You see the sheep had cotton in his ears and misheard "Save me!"
37 minutes and 6 seconds now....
Melanie
edited to say: But it was SO worth it that I get to be here on the top of page 20. Do I get a prize? Some tech support would be nice.
Melanie
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I lost 17 minutes of my life Tuesday calling on a customer service call. I gave up and called sales. The lady got me right in to a customer service person. Didn't know how that happened, but I'm am highly likely to use that device again.
Random: I miss my kids (who are all grown up) getting excited about the 4th of July so they can light fireworks. When I was little we got excited about cap pistols. The days of kids playing cowboy with guns and vests and cowboy hats... are they long gone?
No, Skadder, I wasn't there, but I did hear that the L.A. Police department was suspecting foul play. They have decided to devote extra man-hours into finding a key piece of evidence. Apparently, one of Michael's gloves was missing.
The F.B.I. has even dispatched a young top-notch female agent to the case. She intends to visit O.J. Simpson in prison and devolop a psychological profile of the possible killer.
If the glove doesn't fit...
Speaking of rumors - did anyone hear how Brittney Spears and George Clooney were falsely rumored to have died this week?
What, did they dig up James Brown just so Michael Jackson could use his coffin?
The first place, the supermarket I shopped at, didn't have it. The second place, a convenience store, didn't have it. The third place had the paper from the day before.
Between the second and third places, it dawned on me...maybe they're not publishing because the July Fourth holiday was the next day, that they're kicking it back a day and taking time off. Sure enough, the "day before" paper confirmed it on the front page. I hadn't noticed, and it hadn't occurred to me before that...I'm used to them doing that on Monday holidays but not this.
Happy Canada Day to all you Canadians!
Happy American Rebellion Day to everyone in England!
For everyone else, enjoy the day, whether it's today or tomorrow where you live!
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Happy American Rebellion Day to everyone in England!
I thought they called it Yankee Temper Tantrum Day over there?
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There's a bug on your shoe!
Or were you talking about the grass?
Took me and my father (strictly speaking, mostly my father) about an hour and a half to get the wheel mechanism off, get one off an old lawnmower, and put that back on so I could carry on.
And it was thick. That's it for letting it go every two weeks---that's okay for weedwhacking but the grass is growing too much. Every week from now on, unless it's raining or the lawn is flooded...
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Seems nobody really considered how much the MJ memorial would cost the city ($4M). One city councilwoman says--I'm not making this up--the event should be considered a "city emergency" and thus qualifies for funding from the city's emergency budget.
There's never a drummer around when you need a rim shot.
If they're that broke, I'd hate to think what they'd do if they had another earthquake...
Holla!
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Hey! Hey, you! There's nothing you can do, because the wolverine's are gonna stomp on you!
Maize and blue fan or did you just watch Red Dawn?
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"He tole it wrong...and since when do Irishmen drop their aitches?"
“1300 Be at company, ACU’S, bring soft cap, close out formation 1600 motor pool. Don’t be late.”
Now I missed 3 hours of sleep. And cant get back asleep. Looks like I will be drinking all night to night.
RFW2nd
...being random with my clothes on.
Do you others feel violated?
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I'm the one thousandth poster. Good thing I stutter,eh?
Not if I delete your duplicate posts.
Edited to add: sometimes just having the power is enough. It isn't necessary to do anything more.

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So, if you could all stop worrying about the fate of the internet and get back to being random, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! 
Melanie
On the other hand, it's easier to tolerate than the blare of passing trains.
Harder to take are his raucous New Year's parties...I've got a rare day off, and am trying to sleep at night for a refreshing change...they're yelling "Happy New Year!" at midnight and then singing on karaoke machines until four or five.
RFW2nd
The only real mission of a mortal is to reproduce and raise their young.
As for Immortals such as I we just do what we want and death matters not for we just come right back.
RFW2nd
You know being in a nut house is like being trapped in the movie One Flew Over The Cooko’s Nest. I was like god old Jack, I was the most sane one there. of cores that was a month ago. Man how time flies when one is chemically Lobotomized.
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I've got a huge stress related cold sore that just showed up today.
you all should try googling you screan names.
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http://g4tv.com/videos/39887/Behind-The-Pulse-Jet-Engine/
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Tentative maybe. I can't find age or date of birth yet (they must be around somewhere)...if the picture is any guide, it does look like the kid I remember.
Still searching for a definite maybe.
Vaguely pleased that somebody I went to school with became kinda prominent...kinda testy that it wasn't me.
Any suggestions? Maybe SSAD (summer seasonal affective disorder)?
I am feeling quite depressed by all the heat and sunshine we're having lately (guess there's no way I could live in Australia).
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then ther is spring with all the pretty colors and pups are born in the spring and also pray is abundent and easer to catch.
then there is fall when the leaves are turning and the pups are old egnough to hunt.
the only seson i realy dont like is summer because its too damn hot. and i hate the heat. especialy here in WSMR NM.
it was 102 today.
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In a way, it's very depressing. Here he made something of his life, and now moves among and talks with the powerful and the rich and the intelligent...last night at work I got stuck with a partner who can't handle a simple job but yet can thoroughly disrupt my handling of my job.
(Actually, Doug Elmendorf was one smart cookie even back when I knew him. I'm not surprised he went on to the Ivy League and the Congressional Budget Office. And I don't think I could have done that if I'd'a gone to Harvard.)
Dunno.
Corky and others, it's often called summer-onset SAD, compared to winter-onset SAD. I thought I had it, before realizing the irritability and lethargy I feel in summer also occurs in other seasons if my body temperature is too high.
Anyway, it certainly is heat related. I don't want to do anything. I want to quit my job and everything else I'm supposed to be doing. I just want to curl up in the darkest part of my basement and hide. Yuck!
I used to think I was just naturally a night owl, but maybe I've just been avoiding the heat all this time.
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Maybe our poor thread has summer-onset SAD...
I laughed so hard I think I scared my cat.
If you think you can get blue-bloods to bleed you've got another thing coming. But what does black-blood mean? I want green blood.
Thank goodness I'm out of that dump. Crossing my fingers the little buggers didn't tag along when I left.
Why? Because they eat crap.
No one is allowed to complain of heat if they live in Utah or anywhere where it acctually snows in the winter. When I open my door to go outside it feels the same as opening the oven door after it's been preheated. There was a two year old that fell on a metal grate while walking and got second degree burns. I wish I could just stay inside until the end of September.
It was 111 in St. George, Utah yesterday. I don't care where you live. That's hot.
It was only 80 here though. If it wasn't for the bugs, I might consider that heaven.
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It was 111 in St. George, Utah yesterday. I don't care where you live. That's hot.
When it's 111 in St. George it's still only 75 in Michigan 
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But my idea of heaven has to be the Oregon Coast--I don't enjoy the sun much at all and prefer overcast skies and cool humidity.
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So later that night I go tuck the rest of the kids in bed, and I come out and her dad is fixing her a big bowl of ice cream. And yes, he was here for the conversation, and yes, this is my house.
And yes--it is definately time for everyone to go home.
Melanie
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But after I wrote that post, her dad and I had a nice long talk, and it reminded me that in the vast scheme of things, ice cream is not that big of a deal. She's a super troubled girl, and he's done wonders with her since he took over raising her. It's easier to remember that when she's asleep though.
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If your ship comes in but the cargo is all chewed on by rats, does that count as a good thing?
What about if you see your ship coming in, but you can also see the rats jumping overboard?
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Quote… If your ship comes in but the cargo is all chewed on by rats, does that count as a good thing?...end quote
Well if I were you I would crucify them, and display their crucified bodies on deck as a warning to other rats… STAY AWAY FROM MY CARGO.
I hate the heat here at White Sands Missile Range. Its been in the 100’s and has 18% humidity and my AC keeps acting up. I cant wait to get out of the Army and move some were cold.
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You want hot? Actual quote from the news. "Well folks it snowed yesterday and it's going to hit 100 tomorrow . . . welcome to Utah." That's the trouble, it gets cold and then right away it gets hot so your frain bries before you can acclimatize.
*I'm being facetious.
~Sheena
We should all be terrified that the temperature on the planet doesn't stay constant, is basically what they're trying to tell us.
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Best line of the movie: "You can't go outside; the temperature is dropping 10 degrees every second." Which by my estimation means the temperature outside was -5,000 degrees by the end of the movie.
A brilliant example of how you should not do science fiction. And don't pretend that your shamefully ridiculous and inaccurate science fiction is science fact.
And for the love of Pete, do NOT get your story ideas from Al Gore.
I suppose if the planet heated up and all the glaciers melted it might precipitate weather like I've been experiencing. I don't think it's rained this much since the time of Noah. Thank goodness I live on the top of a hill. Of course, people in Noah's time were probably thinking the same thing.
I suppose that (3) if the temperature stays the same, it's also evidence of global warming.
(You see why I can't take it seriously.)
Read Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear". Or for that matter read what Orson Scott Card has to say on the subject. I assume most of us here have a decent respect for his opinions and knowledge.
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Not one person is going call Natej11 on his "global warming nuts" comment? I think that is very interesting.
Well, I thought about doing that, but this is the random musings topic, after all, and as long as he doesn't get any closer to politics than that, I think I can allow it. Especially if other people respond calmly to such comments.
As I prepare for the forthcoming one-year anniversary of my breaking my ribs by coughing too much (stop laughing), I have acquired yet another persistent and bizarrely sourceless cough.
Whoopee.
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Thanks.
Burn Global Warming, I want to talk about cake or something light and fluffy possibly chocolate flavored on it that I can eat and will make me happy. Actually I like my cake rather heavy, and I like to eat the frosting last, I dig from the bottom.
Tien doje klemine opa defrentied colop breil estoc.
Set decoder rings to Defenestration.
pie > cake.
I mean, sure by some convoluted comparison, pie might win. If you take stawberry-rhubarb pie (delicious) and compare it with funfetti cake (not that great), then of course the pie wins. But there is no pie that can even come close to beating chocolate cake (except maybe banana cream pie, but that just comes close, then fails miserably).
So, in conclusion, I have proven that cake is better.
I have decided that since cheesecake is both a cake and a pie, it is therefore better than any cake or pie.
Cheesecake wins, hands down.
Unless you count Ice Cream, but ice cream makes pie better to, so that is a wash.
These are very important things that must be taken into account, during any discussion of cake vs. pie.
A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch!
We have found a witch, might we burn her?
Burn her! Burn!
In my opinion the frosting is the best part, even though it gives me a bad sugar high and headache. That’s is just the fun of cakes.
As to what is better cake or pie, I don’t think it maters. I am 50.50 on it even though I think the GODS eat pie for every meal, and cake for desert, then chase it down with a large glass of human blood.
Anyway I thought of the funniest thing, I should show up to battalion formation wearing Roman armor. Here is the link.
http://www.armorvenue.com/roman-armor/roman-trooper-costume/
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Jerry's Cheesecake. If you're ever in the Cincinnatti area, look it up.
Therefore pizza pie + cheesepie + pie pie = cake loses.
Also you're a doodoo head.
I should warn you, I've seen movies and read books before, and these sort of things usually end up with one of my offspring tracking you down to seek vengeance. I currently only have one daughter, and she is not yet 1, so you have a while, but be warned.
Wait...is it possible that cheesecake defeats all challengers because it is a hybrid of pie and cake? Like the daywalker of confectionaries?
So far the pathetic attempts by culinary artists to counter this monopoly with the advent of a "meat cake" have been full of fail. For the average red blooded Aussie (both blokes & sheilas) this makes the whole argument a bit of a moot point.
I think meat pies is one of the best inventions humans ever came up with. One question though.
Have you ever tried human pie? It is rather delicious, man in 3 months and 4 days it will be 5 years since I last ate human.
And I take it no one liked the roman armor to a battalion formation idea.
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Also I've found that second generation revenge usually ends up with the young person finding that the old person is so old and tired and haunted by guilt that they pity them rather than killing them. Then the old person shows an unexpected cruel streak and does something underhanded that almost wins him the victory, but his own evil backfires and hits him by mistake.
Oh noes! I'm doomed to fail!
Are you familiar with Occam's Razor? The principle is simple, if there are competing explanations for something the simpler one (the one that requires the shortest/easiest chain of events to have happen) is the more likely to be correct.
If the Bush Administration can kill 3,000 Americans and keep it hush hush why couldn't Nixon keep the lid on Watergate? The chain of events required to pull that off, the people who'd need to be extorted, the people who'd need to be manipulated and killed, the massive teams of people involved in pulling off something of this scale ... I'm thinking the odds of it falling apart are pretty incredibly high.
From the view of a mathematician, if you're intent on believing 9/11 wasn't caused by terrorists, then you're better off going with aliens than "the government", in terms of probability.
2) Now I live in fear that my husband will learn of meat cakes and make one for a party. *shudders*
3) Wolf, if you showed up in Roman armor, wouldn't you be ordered to spend more time with a shrink? It looks like a good price for the package, though...
Edited to add that rice pudding can hold its own, and tapioca should not be left out of the running. But then I remembered that pie can come in the most mouth-watering (ew!) shades of Pecan carmelization, and the jury is still out.
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On conspiracies in general, and I'm trying not to be political here...I'm going to recommend a book, Camelot and the Cultural Revolution, by James Piereson, which, for me, really blew the lid off of why one conspiracy theory in particular gained such traction...
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1) Mathematicians once said the flight of a bee is impossible.
All I did was present information that the official report was flawed. I pointed no fingers and made no conclusions.
But as to Watergate, how about Iran/Contra? Right before a presidential election Reagan, then a candidate trying to dislodge a democratic incumbent, made a deal with Iran to hold onto their hostages until after the election, making his opponent look bad, with the promise that he'd sell them guns afterwards and they'd release the hostages. Then he gave that gun money to a bunch of extremists in South America to stage their little revolution.
People in power knew what he was doing. Nobody cared. Republicans still call him the greatest president of all time.
Meanwhile Clinton gets a BJ in the Oval Office and gets stomped on by the media. Different things generate different media responses, and comparing one to the other is useless.
According to the republican book of prophecies we should be close to the second coming of Reagan.
RFW2nd
I think meat loaf is more a kind of bread made out of meat.
Desserts I love: dark chocolate cake, dark chocolate cheesecake, dark chocolate bread pudding, dark chocolate mousse, dark chocolate cream pie, dark chocolate.
I also love lemon and/or raspberry versions of some of the above.
What's the difference between cake and sugared bread?
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What's the difference between cake and sugared bread?
No matter how sweet you are, you can't deposit cake at the bank?
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Sorry, Zero. I did confuse physicists, who use math, for mathematicians.
The distinction between physics and statistics here is important because I'm not talking about models of physics, I'm talking about models of statistics. And the math is different.
Nate,
I guess I misunderstood you, most people who doubt the official 9/11 report blame the government for causing it. Since somebody caused it, and you seem to think it wasn't the terrorists and huge airplanes, then whom do you blame? If not the government.
As for Iran-Contra, I think that strengthens my argument that covering up something as big as 9/11 is not possible since the Iran-Contra affair, which was smaller, was still ultimately exposed in the Reagan presidency.
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Unwritten, isn't that the case with all mothers? (Though the thought of being "mother" to this bunch is a little off-putting, come to think of it.)
Yummy! :: looks around:: now I want a piece...
edited to add: If you would like a piece (or the whole thing) of any dessert, please feel free to go to the "magic fridge" in the Hatrack treehouse kitchen, and you will find it there. Of course, it's virtual dessert, but it's less fattening that way.
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I can feel myself getting healthier as I eat it...
(Thanks for the correction, I don't know why I was thinking of the Sears Towers... stupid Sears commercials...)
But to go on a tangent, why has nobody mentioned cookies? I humbly submit that there is nothing in this world better than chocolate chip cookies fresh out of the oven, and I'll accept whatever persecution comes from this stand.
@Zero. Whodunit? There are plenty of ideas, but the main point is that a lot of people are calling for another investigation, this time one that responsibly examines the evidence and searches for suspects instead of sweeping everything under the rug with flimsy excuses. On 9/11 they were pointing fingers at Al Qaeda almost immediately afterwards. How did they pull that name out of their hats, and why were they so certain of it when they presented no evidence? One of the first things police do in investigating a crime is to search for who benefited from it. Plenty of people benefited from 9/11, making millions and even billions of dollars from it.
But that's another tangent, and I agree with KDW. Writer's forum, no more posts on politics.
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I humbly submit that there is nothing in this world better than chocolate chip cookies fresh out of the oven
I second that.
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But that's another tangent, and I agree with KDW. Writer's forum, no more posts on politics
"I get shotgun, no battle!"
Classy...
Of course, it gets a little hard to have a proper shotgun battle when you're in a state where children 12 and under must sit in the backseat (and children age 8 - yes 8! - and under must be in a special car seat and/or booster seat). Maybe I'll set the story in the 1950s or something.
Apparently my brother and his friends had instituted a rule that said the chick always gets shotgun. I sure raised that boy right! :-)
Ice Cream mixed with Baileys. Desert of the GODS.
May I get the .50, if Zero gets the shotgun?
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BOOM no more tie dye punchbuggy.
Rommel Fenrir Wolf II professional hippy exterminator
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May I get the .50, if Zero gets the shotgun?
(Hulk Hogan, The Rock, John Cena, Santino Morella?)
~Sheena
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That's as silly as saying print journalists are authors because they, like authors, use words and write them down.
I know print journalists who consider themselves authors because of their articles. Some people believe "author" is a published writer, not a novelist or short fiction writer.
Shooting in another direction... my push mower arrived, and I think I figured out how to use it.
But why is it cold? It's 69 degrees here. My body expects summer heat, so I'm actually shivering.
*sigh* I will go out into this 100 degree heat and get to work
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I know print journalists who consider themselves authors because of their articles. Some people believe "author" is a published writer, not a novelist or short fiction writer.
Fine, I'll ammend my statement.
That's as silly as saying print journalists are novelists because they, like novelists, use words and write them down.
My point is still the same.
The math in Stats does not equal the math in Physics. Ergo a physicist is not a statistician and vice versa.
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As to Cake: I've been really feeling the itch lately to making a boston cream pie which is a cake. By the way cake wins because I don't much care for pies.
As to Pie: I LOVE Pushing Daisies, and I so wish it could come back. But now it has become a logistic impossibility. If you have seen the show at all you know what this has to do with pie. I just don't like most crusts, they are just too crusty. Yes pie is more versatile, but cake rules the universe.
As to Cheesecake: I agree this is a pie, a smashing good one. I don't know if I should share this but my brother is developing a smore cheesecake. Graham cracker crust, marshmallow cheesecake middle, chocolate shell topping. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
As to Ice cream: I'd say if pie needs Ice cream to be good then that is a mark against it. My favorite flavor is Chocolate Midnight Madness, semi-liquid nirvanna.
As to Politics: Mistakes were made, the important thing is to look to the future. "Forward not backwards, backwards not sideways and always twirling twirling to the future." Paid for by the elect Kang the destroyer, not Kodos, his sister as your president campaign!
As to me: I feel like I am being squished in a tube of toothpaste, which reminds me: have any of you seen WordGirl?
Has anyone else noticed how widely tiramisu recipes differ? I can't figure out if it's supposed to be a cake, a dessert cream, or something as unclassifiable as cheesecake.
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(I have no idea if this has any bearing on your argument since I haven't been paying close enough attention, I just wanted to sound smart.)
The other guy/girl said that mathematicians can't explain the flight of the bee. What he/she is talking about is true, but a subject of physics and has absolutley no bearing on the statistics models I was refering to. In effect, it's completely irrelevant. Which is what I've been saying this whole time.
Just because both physicists and statisticians use math as a primary tool doesn't make them the same exact thing. Hence my analogy of the novelists etc.
Say you find a dead guy on the street. Who killed him? Well, according to our friend Occam it's that guy coming round the corner on his way home from the mall, because that's a simple explanation.
The simplest explanation is good up to a point, but a lot of bad police work is based on the "simplest" explanation.
Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack, and saying something's unlikely therefore it can't be true is just lazy thinking.
That said, conspiracies are devilish hard to hide. So you either have to have a wide network of power and a complacent populace lulled by a controlled media, or you'd better have the cloak and dagger stuff down pat.
Hope that wasn't too political.
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Crap, I thought I was doing a good job hiding under my bridge.
Give me a break! - and Occam's name was really Ahcmed...
The firefighters, rescue workers, and policemen who went into the two towers did so to save lives. They are heroes, and will be immortalized as such. The specifics behind that tragedy in no way lessen that heroism.
The argument you used is the common bludgeon of people who support the war in Iraq as well; namely that by even speaking against it we're doing something wrong. Unpatriotic, disloyal, unheard of.
Your argument, unfortunately, is one I see all too often in the media, on the internet, and in conversations. When you don't have facts or truth on your side the only thing you can resort to is personal attacks and mudslinging.
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Second of all, I was not accusing anyone of "denigrating" the sacrifice of police and firefighters. It was intended as sarcasm only, to represent what I saw as the preposterousness of MY argument.
Third, and finally, I do not understand how anyone could believe bombs brought down the buildings, while tons of jet fuel burned around them for about an hour.
This is my opinion on the matter, and I am only speaking for myself. Consider it A Modest Proposal. I apologize for offending you.
I didn't need to reply that heatedly, and I realized after I wrote my post that your own post wasn't directed at me. No hard feelings on either side I hope <3.
We could make this "a learning moment", but I don't drink beer.
I learned yesterday that the army has invented a safety for the M2 .50. funny story, I was helping some dumb Privets put their .50 back together, after I reassembled the bolt, and bolt carrier, I inserted them into the receiver and put the back plate on. I charged the .50 to function check it. I squeezed the butterfly trigger and nothing happened, I tried again and nothing happened. Frustrated I took the whole thing apart and put it back together, only to find that nothing was wrong. After 2 more failed attempts to get the .50 to function check SFC Como said “is the safety on?” I replied “The .50 dose not have a safety unless you consider a spent brass round shoved between the trigger a safety.”
He responded with “It dose now.” and flicked a safety lever located right under the butterfly trigger.
That safety takes all the fun out of the M2 .50 Cal I liked it when it never had one and was very dangerous and can fire with the slightest bump. Ah the good old days.
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On conspiracy theories...most involve far too many people to make them work, or even to keep them secret...
I was out taking pictures of a yacht race last night. Right as the press boat pulls up along side this one, beautiful boat... their sail rips and goes flying. Then their replacement sail gets jammed. They're dead in the water, scrambling to get back underway, with about a dozen photographers (mostly from national papers) going snap-crazy right next to them.
It was clearly a vile conspiracy. I'm not sure who's behind it yet, but I'm sure I'll figure out and then it'll make a great story :-D
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Occam's Razor is all well and good.Say you find a dead guy on the street. Who killed him? Well, according to our friend Occam it's that guy coming round the corner on his way home from the mall, because that's a simple explanation.
Occam's Razor isn't about making stupid conclusions, it's about making informed conclusions within acceptable parameters for plausibility.
as for the dead body the lizard peaople are most likly behind it, becasue the victome had discovered them.
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Frankly the Lizard people do a better job than humans ever did.
When I was younger, whenever we farted another person would call "Doornob" and they could hit that person until the farter touched a doornob. One time, during the winter, I farted and my brother called "Propane Tank." Good times.
nope, I got nothin that hasnt been posted already.
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So the answer is maybe.
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And now you know.
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Randomness releases the bladder of tension.
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Please do not release your bladder here, Owasm.
Considering the dual meaning of your username, have you considered the irony of your request?
My husband's hp planner thing keeps beeping at me, and I can't figure out how to turn it off. At least I finally figured out was making that noise.
I just saw on the news this morning it's not supposed to get over 110 degrees this whole week. I might have to break out my sweaters and jacket. LOL
It's fun to switch channels and have people finish each others' sentences.
P. Sherman
42 Wallaby Way
Sydney
That's why I cut the lawn as soon as the sun is up.
I was supposed to showcase one of the new Taurus at the Bob Dylan concert on Tuesday. I guess the promoters never realized it got hot in Phoenix in August. No concert.
Drop me a e-mail if you are so we can coordinate further.
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Truck drivers exaggerate, they'll tell you they're making so much money that they plan on buying Rhode Island one moment than will claim they're so broke that they've been living on a steady diet of dried raimen noodles for the past year, sometimes all in one sentence.
But since you asked this truckdriver... it ain't doing as bad as the media and politicians say. I'd say we bottomed out but not don't expect that we'll completely rebound for sometime.
I can make this assumption because I haul cars. It looked really bad around Feb. but since then promising signs for the industry have left me confident that no major car companies will be goign under for the time being.
People typically judge the economy by their own employment or available job openings. However, as the news reminds us constantly, this is the last indicator.
My biggest concern is the growing national debt, which is creating inflation by devaluating the dollar and the overall decrease in personal credit ratings due to housing issues and long-term unemployment.
It wasn't my city water line, which is on the other side of my front lawn, and my meter wasn't moving. It wasn't the sewer: that's closer and the water didn't smell bad. It's not the "dual water" connection: there is none on my side of the street and I'm not hooked up to it.
Today the city guys were here to look at it. (I was out: my father came down and watched things.) Seems there's a whole other city water connection line on that side of the driveway, and that was what was leaking. The city guys had it dug up and fixed quickly enough. (There's a bare spot on my lawn, and it'll probably sink down some, but I'd rather have that than a gusher.)
But why was a separate line there? I've got two guesses. (1) When the house was being built (not by me: I bought it off the rack) they put the line there, then someone decided it wasn't needed and they put another line where it belonged. Or (2) there were two lots here originally, both with city water hookup lines...then the lots were subdivided, two lots into three lots, and the line got forgotten in the shuffle.
Anyway, it's fixed. I hope.
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My biggest concern is the growing national debt, which is creating inflation by devaluating the dollar and the overall decrease in personal credit ratings due to housing issues and long-term unemployment.
I am one-hundred percent behind you on this. I know Kathleen hates it when we talk politics so I will try to keep things short.
No one is taking thsi seriously. It gets backhanded attention by every politician.
Yes, the deficit is a concern, but (war on terroism, health care, social security, gold tiles in the congressional bathrooms) is a problem for every American...
Every decision made in government and dollar allocated for it should answer this question, is it so important to doom the next generation with national bankruptcy?
The national debt will be resolved the same way it gets resolved in third world nations; runaway inflation. I'm talking double, and sometimes, triple digit kind.
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I try to assume that most of the people don't know what they are talking about, but they talk anyway because what else is there to do?
Waits so I wasted $10,000 on ammunition and guns for nothing?
I was really hoping that the bottom would fall out and the world would fall into WW V. Yes World War 4, how you may ask, well the 100 year war between all European countries a few hundred years ago was WW I, the Napolic wars were WW II, what we call WW I and WW II was really WW III and WW IV.
Take it from someone who has lived 3000 years of human history, I know what I am talking about, or maybe its just the sleeping pills mixed with pain killers at 0130 Mountain time that is making me talk this way..
Rommel Fenrir Wolf II
Instead, I weighed ten and a half pounds. My mother has never let me forget that.
Not like "I can't stand to be in their presence" creepy, but definitely a little creepy.
Maybe it was "The Shining" that did it to me.
Apologies to any identical twins out there; I'm sure you are very nice people.
As a kid, my best friends were a pair of identical twins. They were very similar, and yet they looked different (to me) and had differences in personalities. They are individuals.
On our street, we had three other pairs of twins, all about the same age. No, it's nothing in the ground---they were all born when their parents lived elsewhere, and moved in when they were babies.
Can we all sing "It's a Small World".
i sleep only a few hors a week and i dont like it.
So the CIA is trying to make lots of coppies of themselves? i knew it. the Govt is trying to brain wash all of us.
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:-)
I am looking forward to creative unemployment. I do not plan to work again (after a short 20 day gig in Sept.) until 2010.
Leslie
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Y'know, kindergarten through college, I went to four different schools. There wasn't one student besides me from any of the previous schools. (The college was a thousand miles away from the other three, though.)
It's a small word after all, it's a small word after all.
There is just one i and a little t that is all there is to 'it' you see.
I look forward to retirement. Actually I might be able to pull it off right now, but it'd be a thin living...I hope to sock away a few more bucks in the next few years and then retire.
In other news... I'm engaged!!!
The former BF proposed a week ago, by a lake in West Virginia. We both still have two years left of college, so it will be a while before the big day, but oh well.
Kindergarten through college, I attended nine schools. None of the kids from kindergarten attended my second elementary school, one of the kids from my second elemenary attended my first middle school, one (or two?) of the kids from my year of "homeschooling" attended my first high school, and none of the kids from my first high school attended my second high school. I'm generally more comfortable around strangers than around people I've known for a while.
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Actually what I remember best about each school these days are what books I found in the libraries. K-thru-5 school, Heinlein and Asimov's fiction. 5-thru-8, Asimov's non-fiction. High school, Tolkien, Kenneth Grahame, C. S. Lewis, and Mervyn Peake. College, P. G. Wodehouse and Stephen King. (The majority of stuff that I enjoyed and which influenced me, I found elsewhere, like bookstores and magazines.)
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You might deduce from the above that I changed schools mid-way through fifth grade. The story of this would thrill you and chill you...that is, it would, if I were a better writer.
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Come to think of it, I found Tolkien through buying The Hobbit at a book fair at high school, not in the library.
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Anyone can dream. The real trick is to wake up. -Terry Prachett
Do, or do not. There is no try. -Yoda
I didn't read it until that summer, though...ah, I remember the circumstances well...down in the cool of the basement to escape the heat of my tiny little room...sitting in the beanbag chair in the room my parents built for my brother...turning the pages and wanting more when I got to the end.
I quickly realized there was more...there was The Lord of the Rings, just waiting...I bought the Ballantine paperback edition of The Fellowship of the Ring and burned through that, same BatPlace, same BatStation...
But it was three volumes in those days, and I could only afford to buy one at a time! Boy was I antsy until I could get to the stores again and find copies...
And I've been re-reading Plot and Structure by Bell, and Elantris by Sanderson. Also an ecology book for my story world.
Last night I put up a huge sheet of paper and tacked up cards to see my plot points. They are color coded by POV and are rated 0-10 for intensity (well, no zeros or ones). I hope the visual will help me to see holes in my plot and subplots, where they need to intersect, and where I need to raise the tension. Yet another strategy that is something other than Writing...
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It didn't have as much impact until I read it again about ten years later after finishing the trilogy. At that point it was a gourmet's delight.
The impact of a book on the reader certainly depends on the context in which it is read.
But then waffles always did taste better at inappropriate times.
I think it was the absolutely dreadful covers that Ballantine Books stuck on them when they reprinted them, that made me think this. (One of the "annotated" Hobbits discusses Tolkien's reaction to these at length.) Those of you who are my age or older might remember this as a chronic problem with Ballantine Books---arty fantastic covers that had little or nothing to do with what was inside.
Although I have some plot issues with the LOTR movies, they were infintely more successful in portraying Tolkein's world.
Anyway remember when I was in Afghanistan and said we were attacked by the Sean Connery dragon. Well in a stoop of sure boredom yesterday and that nothing was on TV I watched that movie Eragon, anyway I didn’t understand it but that dragon looked subspecialty like the Sean Connery dragon that attacked us in Afghanistan. I think it was wearing a mask but my memory is fading. I remember that I hunted and killed it in the cold Afghan winter, found it hibernating in a cave and so I beheaded it, placed about 500LBS of explosives around it, and a small homemade napalm bomb. That was some good eating.
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I got the Bakshi film a while ago, I laughed so hard when they ended it with Frodo going into Sheilobs lair. The real people cut into the animation looked terrible, kind of like the DragonLance movie did with the 3-D CGI Draconians and the 2-D everything else.
I just twist the truth a little.
RFW2nd
Jim Malone in The Untouchables
I wonder if such a movie was to be made about my PLT in Afghanistan how much would good old Connery sign on for?
Oh one more thing, someone asked me if Connery was a Werewolf back when I posted about the dragon many a 2 years ago, well my sources tell me he is but he hasn’t acted as one since his last life. So I don’t know what is going on with him.
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the fact of the matter is...
It is meant to be a summation of a point, but it is such a misuse of terms. fact implies an adherent truth, when what usually follows is an opinion. matter just doesn't fit at all. Just what is the matter anyway? Substance? State of being? To use one word for an entire encompassing prespective is ambiguous. Choosing matter as that word defies logic to me.
Oh, Rord of the Lings might make a nice title.
Once a Panamanian woman with poor English skills had a British woman for a friend, they both lived in Utah. They shared a love for etiquette and would try to be polite as possible. One day the British woman had just been running and visited the Panamanian woman and said to her friend, "Excuse me while I wheeze a little on your couch." Sadly this was the end of their friendship.
(This is a mostly true story.)
I just watched Men in Tights, and the Sheriff of Rottingham spoke in things like that all over the place. Plus a few spoonerisms and my favorite "I'll pay for that."
Wind blows.
Blasted Daleks!
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
But there is a silly little shoelace dancing in the window of the moonlight. Collections are finding evil in the weirdness of the back of the understatement. Foundling badgers dancing out of the whereabouts that live under. Time. Shine the shadows at the people in the window. Ride it out, and wear it in. Cream is there for you to see. When you fall asleep as you are asleep is it a deeper level, then can we not awaken from the waking world?
Yes, I did count them.
Something of a puzzler as to why they need to do it...maybe some of you understand the issue better than I do.
Answer from Google Web Search Help
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Anybody seen this on other search engines? I haven't, yet...I see it elsewhere...
I even remember them today, which must mean they're all right. (Old rule-of-thumb---if you can't remember the idea it couldn't have been any good.)
At any rate, I've got something to play with in my mind for a while before writing something down. Neither idea is what you might call complete...
Anyone going to be at the Seattle State fair on monday?
More as this develops.
While I was designing with her she had told me that she needed to keep it small for the space she was putting it in. I showed her a mat size that was both appropriate to the piece and fit her parameters. Mind you, this is a vintage fashion drawing and we had chosen a petite frame.
Now she has talked to the owner and said she doesn't like that the mat is so small.
I don't mind this in itself. If a client doesn't like the way something came out I am more than happy to change it. (This is extremely rare by the way.)
What bothers me is that she accused me of not advising her well. That I should've told her that the size of the mat was too small.
I have been doing this for twenty years. I am very specific when I work with clients about them seeing exactly what they're getting and I DO tell people if I think they're making a bad decision. I'm actually known for my direct, honest style and I have a lot of clients who appreciate that. There is about a half inch range where mat widths will look good on any given piece. It is not too small. And I did not fail her in giving advice.
But I am not psychic and I can not predict her whims of insanity or b****iness.
When I go in this morning she is going to be meeting with the owner to 'fix' the problem. I really don't want to be there because it's going to be very hard not to say something snide. I will try to be out of the room as much as I can.
That or I will sit at my computer focused on typing up the story notes I came up with at dinner last night for NaNoWriMo and try to ignore them.
Aaargh!
By the way, the boss knows how I work and he's not holding anything against me.
The spoon is dirty. I didn't want ice in my drink. I was expecting my salad with the meal. Where is my meal? I didn't order this. This is cold, take it back. I want to see the manager...
The waitress was rude, unhelpful, slow...
Event planners (bless their hearts), will get the worse of it. Most of their contacts, representives for their clients, are helpful, kind, and a pleasant to meet. Then you'll get one that seem to revel into making anyone that answers to them uncomfortable. They search for the smallest flaw, ask a pointed question about it, and walk away in mid-sentence when the planners represenative attempts an explanation. They'll ignore the poor person assigned to make them happy and act like that person is an eyesore. Yet once when that poor person seeks a little time away, they go looking for them.
Such people are impossible to please. Fortunately, they are transparent. I wouldn't worry about the lady. It takes more than one perpetually unhappy person to besmerge a reputation. Just remember that you can't please all the people all the time. People like that make it a point to prove that axiom.
Even if I had gotten a paycheck today, I couldn't have cashed it---the bank I do business with nearby are closed, and I wouldn't have felt motivated enough (or broke enough) to chase down a branch that was open. Moot point, anyway.
Also they pulled this stunt over the Labor Day weekend. If the check comes tomorrow, I won't be able to cash it till Tuesday. If it doesn't, I won't be able to get it until Wednesday night or Thursday morning. (Assuming they have it even by then.)
I'm not broke---not that I'm telling them that---and waiting a few days will work no hardships on me. (It will if it goes on.) Management, local and top, takes their responsibilities too lightly---they're big on us doing all sorts of things, but when it comes to their own duties, good luck in getting them to get it done.
I didn't try too hard to get to work on time yesterday, as evidenced by the coffee and breakfast sandwich I walked in with. And by the time I got there, about eight minutes late, she had been and gone.
The boss did defend me and tell her that I am very good at what I do. But do you know what's telling? She said that the space she was going to put the piece was bigger than she realized and she offered to pay for the change. She didn't take back her comments about me but that's as good as admitting that it was her screw up. If she truly thought it was my fault she wouldn't have offered to pay.
Admittedly, I'm a little burned out right now. I have to go in today and I already have someone bringing in ten vintage posters first thing in the morning. After this though, I have finagled four days off and if I need it I will stretch it to five. More time to write
and clean the bedroom 
Sorry you haven't gotten paid Robert. That is lousy. Give 'em heck.
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(But I might've put off buying that Blu-Ray DVD player if I'd'a known it was coming.)
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On a vaguely related note---I was planning on buying the new Beatles remastered-CD box set when it comes out on Tuesday. (I've had the cash for it set aside for months, so I can cover it.)
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Does it add to the picture if I tell you that I work near Hollywood? The attitudes between the 'industry' people and Beverly Hills people can be outrageous. Though, most people are nice.
Yes it does, G42. It solidifies my opinion. In my previous career I moved people across the country. The job made me the middle manager on site. Not only was I responsible for my actions and the workers on the crew, I was also the represenative for the entire company to them. Such people can make your life hell. It is almost like they are testing the limits of your composure. It can be a game to them. You lose your cool and they win, and that's when the real fun begins.
Identifying these people before they get the opportunity to damage your pysche is crucial. They masquerade as customers that are protective of their things and have a standard of quality that they want to be met. You can help that type of customer, they're only hard to please. The other kind is the 'misery loves company' type. Here are some signs...
1) Their smile
The ones that don't return your smile are easy to spot. They'll get you to throw up your guard right away. It's the one's that give you that 'larger than a circus clown' grin that will get you to relax at first.
2) The stare
Judgemental, you see it right away. Easy to confuse it with a geniune interest of what you have to say. However, the stare they'll pierce you with is that Queen Anne one. Even when they're a foot shorter it's like they're staring down from the throne, eager to find a legitiment reason to behead you.
3) The dismissive wave
Sometimes there is no wave but the effect is the same. They cut you off in mid sentence at your first helpful suggestion. This is their way of setting the tone in your relationship. If you are the outstanding worker I suspect you to be, it will be your reaction to start trying harder at pleasing this person. They will be watching to see what you do at this moment.
4) Back to square one
The old bait-and-switch from the otherside of the counter. You worked hard on pleasing the crotchity crank, believe that you finally got what they wanted, and it all blows up in your face. Could be the most insignificant item, doesn't matter. Big show of displeasure, pointed comments to re-enforce your own feelings of inadequacy, demands to see your superior. If you get to this point excusing yourself and letting your boss handle the matter will go a long way in ruining their ploy. They are out to make your life miserable, showing that no matter what they do isn't going to ruin your day will make their whole display a meaningless, a wasted effort.
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I didn't try too hard to get to work on time yesterday, as evidenced by the coffee and breakfast sandwich I walked in with. And by the time I got there, about eight minutes late, she had been and gone.
Good for you. You not being there made the game not fun. Can't make the peasant squirm if she's not around. Bet if you were on time her attitude on the matter and displeasure would have been different.
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The boss did defend me and tell her that I am very good at what I do. But do you know what's telling? She said that the space she was going to put the piece was bigger than she realized and she offered to pay for the change. She didn't take back her comments about me but that's as good as admitting that it was her screw up. If she truly thought it was my fault she wouldn't have offered to pay.
Good for your boss and not a bad way to see her actions as an admission. I however see what see did as deviously Machiavellian one. He wrote attack from the position of the moral high ground or something close to it. Your boss said you were valuable as an employee. She countered with her money. Offering to pay even when she was disatisfied was an attempt to show how valuable she can be to your boss. The comment that the space was bigger than she realized was her way of saying that she is the reasonable person.
Just remember this is all fun to her, on a subconscience level. The best way to deal with this type of person is to become robotic, not in monotoned difficult way but in a detached unemotional one. This may run counter to the person you are but it is the person you are that makes them want to crush your world.
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Admittedly, I'm a little burned out right now.
Understandable. Recharge and don't let it keep you down too long. She ain't worth it.
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Unfortunately I can't pawn difficult customers off on the boss because I am the boss, well manager. I wouldn't even have left her to deal with the owner had she not known him personally and called him directly.
Some bit of good was working for me yesterday because after she left I had a bunch of customers, new and old, that were very nice and appreciative of my help. There was even one that would've left had I not been here even though he only needed a little photo frame. Made me feel better about things and yes, the incident is behind me now.
And the couple that had all of the vintage posters this morning spent about three hours but were very easy to help.
So things are looking up and I am in a much better mood going into this long weekend. Thank you all for listening to me vent.
1) another term for such people is "toxic," and I give you all permission to reward yourselves with chocolate or whatever you consider a treat for having dealt with them
2) consider it all "grist for the mill" and think of ingenious ways to kill them off in your stories.
However, people often came there with the intent to treat the salesman, me, like crap. No matter how pleasant I tried to be, there was always that one customer, at least once a day, who decided it was acceptable to be rude and condescending. On the other end of the process, the managers had terrible tempers and would curse, demean, and actually throw objects at you if things didn't happen a certain way.
One should remember that people are people no matter what their job or societal position is, and people should be treated as people, equally. Consumers are a lot better off armed with information than with attitude, unless it's a beatitude.
(By the way, three days, and no paycheck.)
How can I stand to wait one more whole day?
when it's slow? I've done most of my NaNoWriMo notes there so far.But it is true that I will bend over backwards to help a nice person and just do what's necessary for a nasty one. And do nasty people have a clue what we say about them after they leave? If they did, I don't think they'd be so nasty. Or maybe they would because they just don't care.
You mentioned in another post that you and She Who Must Be Impressed will use that twins joke whenever you are together. Do you really?
PS: I do get a lunch break, sometimes it is sunny.
and I did not know we celebrated father's day at different times of the year.
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An impressive track list too.
1. Because
2. Get Back
3. Glass Onion
4. Eleanor Rigby/Julia (Transition)
5. I Am The Walrus
6. I Want To Hold Your Hand
7. Drive My Car/The Word/What You're Doing
8. Gnik Nus
9. Something/Blue Jay Way (Transition)
10. Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite!/I Want You (She's So Heavy)/Helter Skelter
11. Help!
12. Blackbird/Yesterday
13. Strawberry Fields Forever
14. Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows
15. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
16. Octopus's Garden
17. Lady Madonna
18. Here Comes The Sun/The Inner Light (Transition)
19. Come Together/Dear Prudence/Cry Baby Cry (Transition)
20. Revolution
21. Back In The U.S.S.R.
22. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
23. A Day In The Life
24. Hey Jude
25. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)
26. All You Need Is Love
Here's the link to the correct one. All the formats can get confusing.
You can get it for less than $20 with shipping if you click where it says "32 new from $15.91"
Tracy
BTW, they have stopped printing this version of Beatles Love like they have all the other DVD-Audio disks and it will become a collectors item once stock runs out. In three years I bet you can't touch this disc for less than $80 used on eBay.
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I liked the "Love" album enough to listen to it several times---the juxtapositions were often amusing and often insightful---but nothing replaces the actual tracks. (Truth to tell, I don't find it all that surprising that "Get Back" could be matched up with the drum solo passage on "Abbey Road"---the drummer in both cases was the same, and they were recorded within six months of each other.)
I think I've mentioned it before elsewhere in these pages, but downloading the tracks to my iPod brought up some minor problems. The "Huge One" medley on what was once Side Two of "Abbey Road" is, I think, best listened to as a single entity---but the track separation of the CD did not permit me to download this as one track.
Eventually, I dug out my vinyl copy of "Abbey Road," and was able, thanks to a record player I picked up, to make one single track of Side Two on a CD-R, then download that to my iTunes and eventually my iPod. The sound quality is still good---I've done this with a lot of records now, with many more to go---but if it was at all possible to combine individual tracks on a CD into one single track, I haven't found out how to do it.
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Meanwhile, I enjoy a rare Monday off thanks to the holiday. I slept for nine hours.
But this also means I won't be in to work again until Wednesday night / Thursday morning---and won't be able to pick up my check until that point---assuming, of course, that someone gets their act together and the checks or cash or money orders are there for us. (The guy ostensibly in charge of us takes this matter much too lightly---I know for a fact he was paid, and by check.)
Thanks Andrew, I haven't paid much attention to the old blog lately. I had a bit of a fling with Missy didn't I (Probably because I met her) The last song in the player is "The sound of White" She wrote that song when she was a kid, isn't that unbelievable. When she was in school someone came to tell her that her best friend (her cousin) had died. She ran to the chapel to weep and it was all white inside and she said she felt he was there with her in the white light.
Which songs did you like in the little player? That Desree song gets me emotional every time. She wrote it herself about Shakespeare's tragic Romeo and Juliette. She can carry so much emotion in her voice.
Tracy
Oh since you're in the back yard, could you wheel out the trash cans to the curb, thanks buddy.
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(And, no, the cellphone I have doesn't have a camera plugged into its hardware. I use that mostly on vacations, too. Same position on upgrading.)
. Have you heard her version of Stuff and Nonsense?
BTW: I have put out your garbage cans.... some interesting stuff in there.
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Tracy
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We live in Hobart now but my family hales from Gippsland. Settled the Yarram/Alberton/Port Albert area. Traralgon was the 'big smoke'. 
We regularly fly to Melbourne. You can get flights for around $60 if you keep your eye out.
Looks beautiful Andrew. I often have thought that I'd like to live on Kauai after we visited a few years back, but Gina always laughs because she knows I'd get island fever in less than two weeks. So how is it after growing up on the mainland, is island fever real? Tas is over 200 miles long so maybe it doesn't feel that Islandy. The interior has to be stunning...and unique in all the world. I go up and stay in Yosemite all time to write because I find it inspiring. The same reason Anne McCaffrey says she moved to Ireland - somehow it's easier to envision dragons in Ireland. I can see that! Do you travel on the island much?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Tessellated_Pavement_Sunrise_Landscape.jpg
Now that's inspiring. Looks like an ancient UFO landing base.
Tracy
We live a little further up the river than Hobart.
Tasmania (if you include the islands) is about the same land size as Ireland. However, we have less than 10% of Ireland's population (and most of those are in two cities). So you can find some wild, rugged and isolated places.
You posted a link to the Tessellated Pavement. It is a beautiful spot, in some places those blocks of stone are entirely missing, and within the square pools left behind are these perfect little aquariums.
You'd like it.
I believe Ireland's population has mostly killed each other by now so it may be closer than you think haha.
Tracy
BTW, is Google streetview illegal in Canada or something? I mean they have Streetview in "Tasmania" fer cryin out loud, but not in Toronto???
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The rolling green fields of Murrieta were first discovered in april of 2002. By march of the following year it was completely built out. Construction of tracts had to stop because they had only installed six foot concrete water mains and the system couldn't handle the additional hundred thousand homes in for planning approval. Oh and apparently a construction worker had stepped on a mouse that kind of looked like a mini-Kangaroo and a group of environmentalists felt compelled to burn him alive on a large wooden stake. So yeah, obviously the place has a lot of history.
Denem, my cousin's name is Tenille Bonoguore, perhaps you have read some of her stuff. Who knows. She just married a fellow named Anthony Reinhart, he works there too.
When I moved where I am now, there were about thirty thousand people...now there are about two hundred thousand around. (Figures off the top of my head subject to verification.) The roads may all be two- and three-lane now, but they're just as jammed as they ever were.
Ah, to smell the salty sea air, to carouse through the woods...
Oh great, now I'm homesick. 
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I'm homesick for a place I can't get back to. I grew up in Pennsylvania and sometimes wish I'd never left. But my parents are dead and I can't go home. I was so eager to get away when I was younger... sigh. At least we had a few really good visits together before they went downhill. I don't think I've been back to see my siblings since the second funeral, and I miss them. Yeah, I could go, but it seems harder now...
The other place to go home to is my mother-in-law's home in PA, where we spend every Christmas. This year will be our last chance at a good snowfall there. She's planning to sell her sprawling house next summer and get a litte place close to us. Good to have her closer, but its hard to see the place go--my husband's grandfather was the architect.
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At all.
Long about 1:00 AM, the supervisor---not the usual idiot but someone who knows what she's doing---came by with the check. Over the course of the night I pieced together the story of what happened.
I work in automation---I sort letters using a large machine---but there's a manual sort area. Some trays of manual mail came in from Tampa to be sorted, and a clerk going through that found it there and turned it in.
The mystery is this: we know where the checks were found, of course...but what we don't know is whether they came in mail that came in today, or whether they've been sitting over there, out-of-sight-out-of-mind, for the entire time.
(If I'd'a known they had mail like that over there---it's been years since I worked that area and I don't know precisely what they do now---I would'a gone over and riffled through the trays myself.)
I can, right now, put this fiasco right at the feet of certain people---the aforementioned "usual idiot," for one---who had charge of this matter and failed to look---in other words, failed to do their job.
Keep us posted if it gets juicier.
1. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds has the most psychedelic effects I've ever seen, I almost went into a seizure.
2. There were only 43 songs on it (which I guess is pretty good for that kind of game) and there were a few I missed: Elenor Rigby, Love, HELP, and that one I can never remember the name of but talks about reading horrible news, oh boy (maybe that one was Wings though.)
3. I want to know who is responsible for never playing "As my Guitar Gently Weeps" on the radio. Why did I have to live this long before I heard it? Whoever it is has some serious 'splainin to do.
4. The story mode is organized by year, not by difficulty, most of the songs on the rooftop are quite easy, and some of them in the Cavern are quite hard.
5. The game has some really gear extra features, like a Christmas album from '63 with just terrible singing. (There is also a lead in to one of the abbey road songs where George is ordering lunch.)
6. I want to watch someone play, so I can see the music videos without failing out.
7. Sometimes being afraid of chickens isn't a good enough excuse for not wearing a chicken suit.
8. John is the Walrus, trust me.
9. The opening sequence has an interesting ending (Spoiler!) a whole gaggle of things are marching towards a cliff led by the group themselves having tea atop a rhinoceros with a grassy head. The rhino moves one foot off the cliff and it cuts to the Beatles and the sound of the footstep happens and rumbles the whole everything and they all stop. The rhino would have had to take that last step off the cliff. But it didn't fall. Pretty heavy meaning there I think.
10. The songs seem to be ridiculously easy, yet they don't sound easy. My theory is, coupled with my familiarity of the band, the Beatles just wrote smoother songs than most people.
11. You can pinpoint right where they met Hendrix, right when they started to really use the power of the electric guitar. (Instead of just enhancing what they'd do with an acoustic.)
12. I really like making lists.
13.
Merry Crimble
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3. I want to know who is responsible for never playing "As my Guitar Gently Weeps" on the radio. Why did I have to live this long before I heard it? Whoever it is has some serious 'splainin to do.
Really? They used to. I listen to sattelite radio now so I wouldn't know. Quite a magical song, isn't it? George Harrison wrote it. Did you know that it is Eric Clapton on the guitar on the album?
It might be the best song the Beatles ever did (tough choice though)
If you're in LA and like the Beatles you've got to know about Breakfast with the Beatles hosted by Chris Carter on Sunday mornings on KLOS. I think it's like three hours at a time of nonstop Beatles. I don't know if there's a webcast.
On the other hand:
2. "I read the news today, oh boy" would probably be "A Day in the Life."
3. "While My Guitar Gently Weeps."
5. Congratulations on being the first person to use "gear" in a sentence since 1964.
8. "The Walrus was Paul," "Glass Onion," John Lennon, The White Album, 1968.
9. They had that sequence in one of the ads for it.
(Get your hipwaders out, 'cause this'll be kneedeep in nostalgia.)
Back when I first started listening to the Beatles in a serious way, one of my first sources was the album "Hey, Jude." This might be obscure these days, but it was kinda a "Beatles Greatest Hits Package," with a rather eclectic mix of early and late hits. (I learned much later that a new contract with Capitol Records gave them the right to release a package of songs in this matter.)
But it wasn't one of those twelve-inch black disks we called "albums"---it was what we called "eight-track tapes."
These were, I guess, spinoffs of eight-track recording tape. What you got were four sets of matching two-track stereo tracks. You couldn't rewind, you could only play them forward. They lasted through the 1970s until, eventually, being supplanted by tape cassettes.
But the thing is, the stereo separation was superb! One of the great joys of listening to the Beatles so obsessively in those days, was taking the balance knob and turning it so just one speaker and one track played. On "Hey Jude," there were some delightful separations on several tracks, like having two separate versions of the same song.
(This extended past the Beatles---there's a stereo version of "A Little Bit of Soap" by a group called the Jarmels, that I'd pay a lot to have on CD, but that the record company can't find to release it that way, or so they said the last time they released anything by the Jarmels.)
None of the latter-day reissues of Beatles stuff, albums, cassettes, CDS, could match this---until now. I listened, then grabbed my remote and took "I Should Have Known Better" through one stereo side, then the other.
It was cool, hearing first Lennon's vocal and (mostly) acoustic-guitar-and-drums, then Lennon's vocal and (mostly) the electric guitar parts. It put me back in my childhood, playing with my parents' eight-track player.
But, 'cause of this, I now pronounce the Beatles box set good, and well worth the effort of seeking out and buying (that is, if you've got that kind of money.)
And I look forward to hearing other tracks in this manner.
Sounds like stereo to me!
How we first learned of anti-gravity technology.
Here's something I hadn't learned of until recently. Have you ever considered what space smells like?
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090904-sts128-space-rookies.html
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090326-sts119-space-smell.html
"While" I'm going have to remember that. It just bumped "Older" on my list of top three songs.
Tonight I fell asleep watching Benny and Joon, then some vampire movie came on after it. I dreamt about Jhonny Depp biting people.
But the thing is, some of the atrocious lies eventually wound up in the serious histories and biographies. Ultimately, it means you've got to take practically everything they've said, and everything you read about them, with a grain of salt.
Two examples:
"The Day John Met Paul" is enshrined as an important moment in both their biographies. Ostensibly, they met when John's band played at a fete in Liverpool and a mutual friend introduced them. But several people in their social circles at the time are adamant the two of them knew each other before that point. So what really happened?
At the other end of their career, there's the story about how the Beatles were having a business meeting, Paul was coming up with ideas for what the Beatles should do next, and John said something along the lines of "I think you're daft...in fact, I wasn't going to tell you, but I'm quitting the group." Most sources put this meeting at sometime in September of 1969, quoting the participants in various ways...but a recent group biography puts this meeting in late 1968, after which the group, with John, carried on. Who's right? Everybody else?...or did the biographer have more solid information about the date?
The Jonas Brothers have a TV show call Jonas, which is just a cooler version the Monkeys. I would kiss the screen, except that my five year old is watching.
I don't know what this whole Walrus thing is about, and I don't think it's that random.
RANDOM POLICE WOOooooOOOOoooo
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I dreamt about Jhonny Depp biting people.
I thought one of them got the papers to print that they mixed their father's ashes with cocaine and snorted it. Or perhaps that was one of the Stones or Aerosmith.
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BTW you ever get paid yet, Robert?
Didn't I mention it a couple of posts back? Oh, yeah, I did.
Don't know if the check cleared, though...tomorrow, when I've got some spare time, I'll see if I can find out.
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Oh, I'm a big fan of the Pre-Fab Four, too---would I have so many of their albums and the DVDs of their series if I weren't?
Sometimes, when I'm a big fan of whatever---written word or recording or TV show---I'll try to lay my hands on everything I can.
(Weird side effect with that---back in the 1970s, when I "took an interest" in things, if the person was alive, they died within a week. This happened with two science fiction writers and Elvis Presley.)
((Don't mention this to the Elvis fans...they have no sense of humor about it.))
My office is in my basement. A squirrel spends a slice of his day down in the window well rooting around for who knows what. He (she?) lives underneath my deck and is pretty good sized for a squirrel. Did you know squirrels can run right up the plastered concrete of the window well? Straight up and out.
I have no desire to domesticate the thing. I have no idea how disease infested the little critter is. Luckily I live at a high enough altitude that there are no fleas.
Is that random enough?
My parents acquired a new cat. We saw him around the neighborhood, then he wandered up to my mother and demanded to be fed, then came inside their house...he lives there now.
(Or "she"---we're not certain. I will continue to refer to him as "him" till examination proves me wrong.)
One thing he seems fond of is, when I visit, he climbs up on my chest and sits there and licks my hand, often all the way up to the elbow.
Yesterday I was washing out my shirts and I found shedding cat hair all over one of 'em.
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I thought random musings was running out of steam til people started talking about Jack Sparrow biting people, and now I'm right back into it again!
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I wish I was in SL
But, I should clarify, NOT so I can give you a black eye.
Well anyways my neighbors got a cat, Black Siamese, the spitting image of my cat. (Which isn't surprising, my cat's father really got around.) The thing is I think my cat is haunting me through this cat. This cat is kindof a psycopath, and is quite stupid. (He's the only cat I've ever stepped on.) But sometimes, sometimes he gets this look in his crazy eyes and talks to me in just the right tone. And then he goes back to attacking the grass. (Also he snuck into our house once and walked around as if he knew the floorplan perfectly. He even went to where the food dish used to be.)
When we give the cat a treat but aren't quick about it, he says, "Now!"
The oddest moments are when he thinks we've left the house. Then, he paces around the living room, crying, "A-lone!"
I wish I knew who trained him. He came to us through the animal shelter, who documented him as a stray.
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I was just going over the first five pages of this thread...looks like we started out posting pithy one-liners, then expanded into lengthier notes.
I'll be the guy standing next to the water cooler who looks exactly like Brad Pitt (minus the good looks, charm, and general appeal). 
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Salt Lake City yesterday, Carson City today. If I ever head that way again I will post for all to see.
Other opportunities for others to give me black eye.
Ft Collins, Co Sept. 21
Denver, Co Sept. 23
Witchita, Ka Sept. 25
Kansas, Ka Sept. 28
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I'll be the guy standing next to the water cooler who looks exactly like Brad Pitt (minus the good looks, charm, and general appeal).
Now we know how you got that name, Z.
(That's how you get people to want to give you a black eye)
A couple, sensibly attired in bathing suits, being served obnoxiously tropical drinks at a swim up bar. Now, that's the whole point of a beach resort, so that's not what caused this canniption... it was the waiter dressed from the waist up in a tuxedo. What is that? I mean, seriously... if you're gonna make the poor man swim for his gratuity, is a tuxedo really necessary?
(does this qualify as a random musing? i had to share it with someone and it's almost 2 AM here...)
(I've known Kathleen for years before hanging out here, but I've never met her, either.)
But all of that has absolutely nothing to do with the monster under my bed. (He keeps the dust bunnies in line.)
We had a cat who would cry "let me-owt!" at the door, but that's really all she would say to us in words. The rest of the time, she'd just say "rrrmmm?" to us. To other cats, however, she had the foulest mouth I've ever heard.
I can't remember his name, but he was a weird old guy.
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Back on the Beatles for a moment...I read in one of the books, where John Lennon took up the guitar, and, it said, it took him two years to learn to play the guitar and to sing at the same time.
If I had known that were possible---if I had not thought that playing and singing at the same time was something you were born with, but rather something you could learn to do---I might have pursued music as a career.
Hmm. Interesting. Wonder what it would taste like with garlic?
The guy identifies himself as Agent Oh-Fourteen...when asked, he says it's because he's twice as smart as Oh-Oh-Seven.
Funny? Well, I thought so---more than forty years ago when I heard it in an episode of "Gilligan's Island."
Sometimes these promos for movies are loaded up with all the best bits in the movie---and how many of us have gone to a movie only to find out that was true?---and, if the best bit this movie can come up with is a stolen joke from a forty-plus-year-old episode of "Gilligan's Island," well, how funny can the rest of the movie be?
(I'm told that some people call ant lions "doodle-bugs" and like to stir the sand around the top to get the doodle-bug to throw sand up from the center, thinking an ant is available.)
One evening last week we looked out the window and saw a praying mantis on the porch screen. I went out to get a closer look, but it was dead. When I went to pick it up, its abdomen pulsated, and then I realized it was full of maggots! It was a CSI moment, one of those scenes I hide my eyes for. I couldn't finish my dinner.
Once, my cat brought a dragonfly into the house and the body was, I kid you not, nine inches long. It got away from her and I performed a catch and release maneuver with a wicker basket.
I don't know if we have doodlebuge in LA.
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The farthest west I've ever been is Laramie, Wyoming, and that was over thirty years ago.
I don't plan any travel outside the borders of the United States. Travel arrangements seem more complicated than ever, and, besides, to get there I'd have to fly

I'd like to spend a few days in each place, so they'd have to be different trips.
I've never been to Ireland, but I got very close when I visited the Isle of Man. I'd like to return to the Isle of Man as well as visit Ireland on some trip, too, some day (or set of days).
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I had the idea that, somewhere, somehow, somebody was having the exact same thought at the same time as me. I tried to call this person, but the line was busy.
Ha, Ha! Bow before He Who Must Be Obeyed! I will use my power to fight evil (or good, whichever is easiest), promote all that is right, and edit extrinsics posts to make him look not so smart.
Now all I need are some minions...
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Snapper, some might argue it does't count if you didn't stop anywhere in the state except a roadside restaurant or gas station. So what's your real count?
xkcd comic - "Locke and Demosthenes"
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Snapper, some might argue it does't count if you didn't stop anywhere in the state except a roadside restaurant or gas station. So what's your real count?
I would agree that you shouldn't be able to count a place if all you did was land in an airport there and then take off for another airport.
But driving through a state for several miles, even if you don't stop for gas or at a roadside restaurant, should count for that state.
Let me consult the map and see what is teh largest metropolitian place I have never been to yet (not including Alaskan cities).
Either Great Falls, MT or Rapid City, SD. Other places I have yet to see or drive by...
Yellowstone
Key West
Plymouth Rock (or anywhere inside the cape)
Grand Canyon
I have also been to 4 Canadian Provinces, all four corners of the lower 48 (Homestead FL, Caribou ME, Blaine WA, and Chilua Vista CA.)
The farthest north - Thompson Manitoba (450 miles north of Winnepeg) note: it was in March
South - Brownsville, TX.

And I have great sympathy for your bug experience, MrsBrown. It reminds me of a nature show I watched once that described this bug disease (a fungus, I think). The fungus paralyzed the bug and then grew spores out of its body. The show kept showing all of these ants and caterpillars with hundreds of little spores growing out of them in all directions, set to very dramatic music. Those were some very disturbing images. I still shudder when I think about it.
I decided that if it stayed on its side of the room, I would stay on my side of the room and we would both survive the night.
I think I will buy the mono Box, assuming I ever turn up one.
I'd have been traumitized by some of your experiences. My next-door neighbor swallowed a June-bug (beetle) in her coffee; she almost threw up. I could tell more--my childhood is rife with disturbing bug-related incidents. But I'm ready to move on.Snapper, you must have so much in the pot for stirring up stories--do you draw inspiration from your travels?
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Snapper, you must have so much in the pot for stirring up stories--do you draw inspiration from your travels?
One time while driving through the California desert did I get inspired. Came up with a cool hard sci-fi idea. i wrote it, posted it (in another crit site) and sent it to everyone I know. Never had so much negative feedback in my life.
The long drives will help me form ideas and lets me work through some scenes that are stuck in my head. teh problem is. like dreams, the ideas kind of disapate if you don't get them down.
A big 4wd ute with spots and bullbars pulled up next to me while I was filling up. The tray was full of dead kangaroos. They were shooters, they were drunk and they were swearing and laughing at the top of their lungs. They woke up my kids who were clearly alarmed by the racket and the comments.
So I asked them ( there were three or four) if they would mind quieting down as I had sleeping kids in the car and we had come a long way and had a long way to go.
To my surprise they shut-up.
I paid for the petrol and left and the children settled back to sleep. It wasn't long before I noticed the ute behind me with its lights off. I sped up to put some distance between us and in response they whacked on their spotlights and chased me for a hundred kilometres.
They would speed up and draw right up behind me for a moment and then fall back only to do it again, and again.
We passed no lights, no houses, no other cars for a hundred kilometres. Just them, and me trying to keep my family from waking.
As we approached the lights of a big coal mine, they gave up and turned around. I can't imagine where they were going. Back I guess.
I have often thought about that experience as a sequence in a story. What if my car had broken down, a flat tyre, what if, what if... all grist for the mill.
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...the ideas kind of disapate if you don't get them down
Good reason for having some kind of audio digital recorder along--just speak the ideas into it. I understand ipods and other mp3 players have that capability.
Andrew, I think it would be cool to visit Australia, but since I don't do the boot camps, I wouldn't get to be the one to go do them. OSC may be interested, though. You can ask if he ever plans to do a boot camp down under (or any other questions you may have) on this page.
That's "irritate" as in "when bitten, my flesh would swell up and it would leave a tiny scab that would itch and ache for days," and not as in "annoy."
As I've said before, I "get away from it all" on these twice-yearly vactaions, and "it all" includes my comptuer and the internet and surfing the Web and all that cool hip talk I really don't understand. (Probably "it all" includes any writing, though, on rare occasion, I scribble down a note or type a page or two on the old typewriter I do take with me.)
So you won't see me here till, oh, next Sunday night at the earliest, but maybe not till the Tuesday after that...maybe longer if I go somewhere else beyond my immediate plans.
(Oh, yeah, my immediate plans. Atlanta, Charlotte, Atlanta again, then home.)
So so long...and abysinia!
There are ticks, but they are in much less evidence. The worst affliction my dog (may he rest in peace) was a seed that burrowed in his skin. It abscessed and had to be surgically removed. He had to have one of those ridiculous looking collars around his neck.
sorry all i just got out of the Hospital after 36 days in and out of conscious. i realy dont know what happened but i do know that i have a lot of "HAPPY PILLS" to take, so call off the search for me.
any way i just wanted to say I LIVE ONCE AGAIN.
Rommel Fenrir Wolf II
I'm going to be in Dublin. So that will be a lot of fun! I'm excited.
In other news, I had a sad experience in my fiction writing class this morning. A kid wrote a story entitled "Alien Blood" which was about a little girl who had AIDS, so her parents told her she had alien blood. Then of course the male narrator falls in love with her. It wasn't too bad of a story. But anyway, two of the people in the class, plus the professor, said that when they first read the title, they thought, "Oh, no, not science fiction!"

It made me sad. When I first read the title, I was thinking "Oh, yay! Someone is finally writing something interesting! Maybe we can avoid the dysfunctional love relationship story for once." Which didn't happen, but oh well.
So that pretty much ruined my idea to write a fantasy story for my next assignment. I don't think it will go over well. Guess I'll be writing for my audience...
Sometimes connotation moves words into very narrow aspects of their denotations.
Of course, this kind of attitude is why I don't work in the corporate world. I get labeled a trouble maker.
As far as the lady in the Van - Maybe she left in shock? She didn't know what else to do, or what she was supposed to do, so just did what first seemed logical- keep on going.
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two of the people in the class, plus the professor, said that when they first read the title, they thought, "Oh, no, not science fiction!"...So that pretty much ruined my idea to write a fantasy story for my next assignment. I don't think it will go over well. Guess I'll be writing for my audience...
I agree with G42. Not only that, if I were to hear such a comment, I'd make it as Asimovish, Nivenesque, Bradbury-like that I could.
I don't know about the rest of you but our chosen genre has taken about as bad of a rap as it can. It is unjustified. In my opinion, Sci-fi/fantasy/horror has the highest standards for publication their is.
Almost all of the romance you'll read is adverbed littered drivel. Most of the mystery's are filled with shallow characters and are, ironically, predictable. Action/drama's are so unbelievable they become dull. And the fiction they ply on Oprah that makes the best sellers list for weeks? Please, teh characters in them are as aloof as the authors that never need fresheners in their bathrooms.
You paid for the class, correct Mary Ann? Force feed them what you know, what you like, and what feels right to you. Challenge them to give a meaningfull critique other than 'I don't like Sci-Fi'. Writers are supposed to be opened minded. Don't hesitate to throw that in their face.
Yeah, I might still write a fantasy story, not just to shock everyone, but because I want practice. All the stories I've written are "present day" type of stories. I think I've gotten off way too easy: it's not hard to describe a world that your readers are already familiar with.
Unfortunately. I'm considering writing lighter fantasy, like talking teddy bears or something.
Of course this differs if you have a grant or something that is GPA dependent.
Anyways.
Everybody keeps saying challenge your class by writing a speculative story. I say challenge the class to write a speculative story.
RFW2nd
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Something else happened that encourages me to go ahead and write a fantasy story: Junot Diaz came to campus to do a reading, and we were required to attend for our class. He did a question and answer session at the end. When someone asked him something about science fiction, he responded with a little speech about how science fiction, fantasy, and other genres that people tend to think of as "junk fiction" (his words, not mine) actually contain some of the most honest treatments of humanity's uglier issues, like genocide for instance. Mr. Diaz said that he's learned a lot from books like Dune and Lord of the Rings.
The best part is that my professor was there too.
I hope he learned something.
Second grade... that was a rather uneventful year, except that my two best friends moved away at the end of it.
Now, most of my mental health clients are schizophrenic. Fortunately, I monitor their medication, so none of them act "second-grader".
Damn memory, its failing me.
RFW2nd
My second grade teacher misspelled "peninsula." Or have I mentioned that before.
On aliens, illegal and the other kind...my big dictionary is about thirty years old, and the definition of "clone" in it involves plant cultivation, and does not mention what we would think of...
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Second grade was when I became a man.
What were you before?
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Second grade was when I became a man.
How many times did you fail first?
And in answer to snapper's question, I skipped first grade because I was so smart. It was second grade that was the killer.
I'll be here all week.
i need to get back to ancient Rome at around 462 time frame.
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There are assorted Robert Nowells, Robert Nolls, Robert Knolles, Robert Knowalls, and Robert Noels scattered around. I seem to, at least, be the only active Robert Nowall who hangs around online. (There might be another one in England, not active online, but it may be a misspelling.)
(Far as I can tell, I'm related in some way to everybody with the last name "Nowall" in the United States.)
Hmm...that explains so much.
We should make a movie based on our random musings.
I bow down to the randomness of this quote. If there was an award show for randomness, this would be a nominee.
((And I have no idea why I suddenly have this fixation on men's hair. Best not to think about it too much, and hope it...blows away.))
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Now if I only knew who played Clint Eastwood's hair in DIRTY HARRY, I'd die a happy man. (A shock of hair in that flick; I think it had its own personal assistant.)
It was one of the Fry Guys--originally hired on as a stunt double--moonlighting.
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Of course, I remember "Hey, Arnold!" fondly...I very nearly wrote fanfic for it...had a terrific idea for one, but I wasn't writing it at the time...but only a couple months later, I was writing fanfic for another show...
What's the point of this whole scavenger hunt thing?
Scavenger hunts, like all the best games, teach basic survival skills.
Any thoughts on the subject?
The best analogy I've got is that of chewing a piece of gum, over and over. Once, when I was a kid, I actually had the gum dissolve in my mouth...but under the strain of picking at them, my stories are just dissolving around me.
I won't be back till tomorrow morning...maybe not then if I'm too tired...
i was reminded when my Microsoft Office Outlook reminded me when i went into it and a message poped up that said remind hatrack about this good comic. 1 year over due.
so here it is. enjoy.
http://www.dogsdaysofsummer.com/index.htm
Warning for mature audiences
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Then again, my computer was turned off from about 11:30 AM yesterday to 8:00 AM this morning...it's been on most of the time while I was on vacation...never underestimate letting something cool down.
wow i feel grate.
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"lions and tigers take a poop"
For the record, I wouldn't put that in my soup, either.
and for the record i had my wisdome teeth cut from my head 2 days ago so i can only eat soup.
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and Yhaoo answers.
just wondering.
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I'm like a certain cartoon villain: I'm everywhere.
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(I had to hunt down and look up what operating system I have. Windows XP, which is about two systems ago, I think. It does the job.)
My boyfriend is saving for a laptop. I'm sure it will have Windows 7 when he gets it. I'll let you know what we find then.
I never transferred most of the stuff on my old computer to my new computer...most of it was stuff I really didn't need, that cluttered up my files...one thing I regretted not having was a short and incomplete clip of a Ringo Starr video...but then I realized the clip was on iTunes and I downloaded the whole video...
Some time during my vacation the (Comcast) cable company rearranged all the channels for reasons that remain obscure. (Supposedly it's to match up the channels in, if not the world, then the immediate area...but why this is necessary, I have no idea.) Some channels disappeared, some moved up to the digital tier and some moved down from it...some are at two or more places, in HD and regular.
It's extremely irritating. I'll flip through channels without thinking, and land on something I don't want to look at. And some of those channels were at those spots for as long as I have had access to cable, which is a pretty long time now.
I'm not enamored of Comcast for doing this---beginning of the year, I hooked into their high-speed computer thingy as well as switching phone services, and I'm not enamored of either of them, either---but I'm also not enamored of the thought of having to change anything. I'll wait and see what comes.
Favorite animals with Lightsabers
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It's actually kind of a funny story. I was driving in my Minivan, listening to Radio Disney and asking my son what rhymes with cat, as I drove through a Walmart parking lot. This blue car pulls behind me and is following me really close, but come on I was driving in a walmart parking lot, that's where the crazies learn to drive, so I wasn't paying him very much attention.
I parked at my local Hastings, and the guy parks right next to my van and looks at me from the cab of his vehicle. He has on a cowboy hat and these bushy eyebrows and he looks at me and really smiles. This weirds me out, because as a wife and mother of two, people don't generally look at me that closely. So I get out of my car and tell my son to hold my hand, and the bounty hunter leaves his car, now ignoring me completely. He has on a vest, and as he enters the Hastings I see a shiney set of handcuffs open and ready dangling from his back belt loop, and then after the handcuffs I notice a handgun tucked into the back of his pants on the outside of his vest.
I get my daughter and look into his car, because I've always wondered what the inside of a bounty hunters car would look like, and there is another cowboy hat (a spare, I guess, in case his get's lost) and some redbull. On the passengers seat there's a piece of paper with a woman's face on it and some info. I guess some wanted woman drives the same van as me. I don't know though, I didn't stay to look too long. The man who owned the car did have a gun, after all.
Most exciting thing to happen to me in a while.
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He has on a cowboy hat and these bushy eyebrows and he looks at me and really smiles.
Yeah, I've heard things have been really tough for Imus lately - he must have started hanging around Dog after they both lost their shows.
(It didn't help that he got me out of bed at six Sunday morning to do it, either...)
I think I've said somewhere in this terribly lengthy thread that the best french fries I can get are ones I make myself. Maybe there's a restaurant somewhere that makes ones as good or better, but I don't know where it is.
(Here's the recipe: Buy some kind of deep fryer or Dutch oven, the kind that comes with a basket to dunk it in, fill it with vegetable oil, heat to four hundred Fahrenheit. Be careful not to set anything on fire while doing this. Take about two and a half pounds of potatoes, half of a five pound bag, peel them and cut them up. Put them in the basket, dunk the basket in the hot oil. Pull them out and shake them every copule of minutes or they'll stick together. Keep them in until they start to darken and some start to float in the oil, usually around fifteen minutes. Take out and let cool for three or four minutes, longer if you worry about burning yourself. Eat.)
If it is beside the point than it isn't in the sentence.
I used to work at Burger King and Wendy's (and how did I ever survive that?) where I found that the product tasted pretty good---if you ate it fresh off the flame broiler or grill. Any sitting around, say, in the time it took to get a bag of burgers home, well, they were just awful.
Back them on a cookie sheet drizzled with olive oil and seasoned salt. Turn a few times. I don't know how hot the oven should be. My automatic fry maker (spouse) creates them.
Another technique is to par boil the fries to get them started. Make sure they are absolutely dry and then put them in the hot oil. They don't take as long to cook and they absorb less oil.
Again the details are sketchy. If my automatic fry maker gave me the secrets she'd have to kill me.
Then I wouldn't be able to enjoy the fries.

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He was not wearing a bike helmet (idiot) and got a ticket. A Traffic Diversion is Police-speak for Traffic school. But I am in the middle of writing a steam punk-romance short story where the MC (a proper young lady named Mercy) talks about being diverted so I sat for two hours while the officers (who ride motorcycles), one of which was british and did not speak Californian and the other who had managed to make it to adulthood and gods knows how many of these classes and still not know how to man a PowerPoint presentation go on and on. I do believe they resurrected several frames of blood on the highway. While I imagined Mercy and Horatio being diverted by their wonderful flying machine...wearing helmets, of course.
After class, I asked them what a Diversion was and they gestured around them and said "Well, this..." and then I asked why it was called a Diversion and they looked at me like two leather clad owls. Their boots were cool, though.
It was an odd week.
It's not really as simplistic as depicted by Pauli Shore in Encino Man, or as slick as Alicia Silverstone in Blast from the Past. Mr. Shore's dialect is really a derviative of Dude, which has roots in the Malibu surfer communities of the mid 70's. And Ms Sliverstone bases hers on the Galleria movement of the mid-80s so prevalent in the Valley.
Today's modern Californian, as observed in Northern California, is closer to a blending of LOL-speak mixed with cracker-rap as interpreted by over indulged white boys. Most communication no longer happens verbally but only via txt.
Examples include:
"Dude, Mom. I didn't cut that class I was just hanging." (single example of verbal communication)
"I feelin bad and none of my classes r doin anything. Can I come home?"
"U r a dwb" (this was in response to a negative on the above)
I have discovered that removal of the cell phone, X-Box and computer (where WOW is played) results in a slow resumption of normal communication.
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Which is funny, because I spent some time in LA and the actual memories of that time was concrete, traffic, and more concrete.
And as for X-Boxes and WoW... one of these days I should disconnect my internet for a month as a social experiment and see what it does to my home life. Maybe those brain cells WoW ate will grow back and my productivity will no longer look like this:
http://www.explosm.net/comics/383/
Never got into games. I kinda bought my first computer to try out a video game of "The Simpsons," but everything else I loaded onto it was either (a) free, or (b) associational with something I was interested in. By the time I bought my second computer, I hadn't found any games I was so interested in that I thought it was worth downloading...most of the downloads since then have been music-related, i. e. maintaining and adding to an iTunes program.
Not that my social activity, or even actual writing time, has gone up from not doing any of these extracurricular activites...
Wait, sorry, think I'm in the wrong thread.
~Sheena
I'm OK with that.
I think I lost all the IQ points I gained from not watching TV.... 8(
Governemnt regulations, bah-humbug. I am nowhere (Wells, NV) forced to sit here until Sunday morning. It is snowing outside. Blizzard.
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Come to think of it, I do have something to say.
Last month, after a bad hangnail experience, I decided to let that fingernail grow long...then started letting them all grow long. Twasn't easy, being an inveterate nailbiter, but I managed...somehow. Yesterday I trimmed them a little, but...
How can you guys with long nails stand it? I'd rub my eyes or scratch an itch and damned near draw blood. They poked me when I didn't expect it. I worried constantly about getting things under them. What gives?
While I was sitting watching football in the drivers lounge of a truck stop in the middle of nowhere a driver noticed that I was on the net and started to ask me questions about the shooting at Ft Hood. Now I know it was a week ago but hey, some people really try to disassociate themselves from all the bad news. You really can't blame them. Well, this guy just heard from home that a kid he knew back in Indiana was one of the ones that was murdered. I pulled up todays news and the Sgt he knew as his neighbors son was the first person mentioned in the story. This poor guy crumbled right before my eyes.
It feels as if I did something wrong. I know that is illogical but it is still a feeling I cannot shake.
Commiserations, snapper.
Even so, it's too early for Christmas songs on the radio.
NOw I know how those poor telegraph delivers must have felt in WWII.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29001524/
My comments are based only on what the article said and in no way reflects you rich. It only sounds that way. 
I think it is obnoxious the way every would be writer has to bash Stephanie Meyer. I know she made mistakes, like "shhh" she hushed and everything. But come on. Twilight was her first novel. The very first novel she ever wrote, and I bet if you dug into your bag of tricks and pulled out your first novel, there would be a few minor mistakes in it. I know there are in mine.
Second off, Steven King must feel threatened or something, or Oh yeah... he has a book coming out. Let's bash the most popular book out there and remind people how well he can write.
I think the article is just a publicity stunt used by the man who hocked his new book on The View.
Personally, I wish he would have taken the Orson Scott Card route and spoke kindly. Then, when the fad fades away, and Stephanie Meyer has to stand on her own skills as a writer, she can either fade away with the fad, or show everyone why so many people have bought her books. Steven King calling her out as just a fad, might come back to bite him on the butt now that she has more power in publishing than he does.
And third off, if a publishing house bought her book, and she actually can't "write worth a ****" then, Sweet! There is hope for me to be published too.
So maybe we should think positively that the next big fad out there will have one of our names on it, and think how we would react if that happens. Steven King, I'm disappointed.
~Sheena
He never called Meyer out as a fad, and I don't think he's jealous of her success. It's just the guy's opinion. Obviously a few of you don't share his opinion, and that's cool. But I think you're attributing motivations to him that are not possible to gauge from that snippet.
You want to make a mint? Write a door-stopper about a couple of angsty witch-sisters....Do that with "Charmed".
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I think it comes across that he was once one of the sheep, and now he thinks he's the shepherd.
(I had to check the spelling of "shepherd.")
Sorry I just heard the ghost of Kenny Rogers singing those words to me. (And before you tell me Kenny Rogers isn't dead look at a picture of him recently and look at one of him ten years ago. One of two things happened, horribly botched facelift or he died and they replaced him with a phony.)
Sum Ting Wong

However, at least people got your joke, mine required too much thought in relation to the previous post.
(I still like Sum Ting Wong.)
I was going to post the link for a site that is all about bad facelifts, but just took a gander at it, and I don't think it'll pass the smell test here. (And I had to gouge my eyes out after looking at that site, and I've seen just about everything...)
I'm now blind and mylk klj;aew aval lkeaerlkvals .
(What? Can't get it started?)
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"With a plan and a monkey, a man can do anything."
It is so true. I'm learning so much by watching Curious George with my kids. I saw that monkey conduct an orchestra!!?? And he's really not a monkey, either. He's a chimp, but he'll always be that crazy monkey to me.
The only other thing that kinda freaks me out is Martha Speaks. Apparently if you give your dog vegetable soup, the letters go to the dog's brain instead of her stomach. Genius!! The thing that really freaks me out, though, is that this dog can carry on quite the conversation and no one blinks. I so seriously want to see the episode where some slacker drops acid, and meets Martha.
(Pierre)
*I think I said this one here before.
Also, no dumb blonde jokes.
I'm not even sure I like the idea of "people who don't write" jokes, though I can be convinced.
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Does anyone know the biggest difference between Cher and her daughter?
Then, or now?
This has always been one of my favorite holidays, this year it won't be. I have never missed one. This time I will be 2500 miles away. My wife tends to stress out during holidays, especially when it involves traveling to someone elses house, a few times in the past she elected to stay home. My daughters enjoy the trip up to my moms but who knows what will happen this year.
Man I sure do hope everything goes smooth. I hate getting those calls with an angry woman on the line with crying teenagers in the background.
Enjoy your day everybody, and route for the lions for me. I could use the good news of a rare victory.
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(I wouldn't have gone shopping even if I hadn't had to work, too dangerous)
I went to the supermarket on this past Black Friday. Nobody's in the supermarkets.
My brother was going out to try his luck on Black Friday, but I haven't heard how things worked out.
Speaking of another thing in which I am an aficionado, kid's shows. I love Martha Speaks, my favorite parts are when people don't actually believe a dog is talking to them so they jump to different conclusions which are much more absurd. I also love Word Girl, I'd like to get those on DVD. That show has more narrative than I've seen in a kid's show in a long time. Curious George has it's good moments, (and a lot of them are quotable) but it is strange to me that half the time they live in the country and run a farm and the other time they live in the city. About the only one I don't like is Super Why, I usually like new takes on nursery rhymes and such but they screw them up so terribly I can't stand it. To solve the conflict in a story they rewrite the story so there is no conflict. Instead of the wolf chasing red riding hood dressed as grandma the wolf hugs red riding hood and then they play on the swings together. So basically they take a story and turn it into a non-story. It really bothers me.
Yesterday in Best Buy I happened across the Beatles Mono Box, and bought one and brought it home. (I would have bought it sooner but I hadn't seen it, and didn't know any were in the store.) This is another package---the other box contains stereo mixes and this one contains (mostly) mono mixes. Arguably, these are the proper and correct mixes, the way the Beatles intended their work to be heard---the Beatles spent more time on mono mixing and often handed the stereo mixing over to other hands and ears. Mistakes were made from haste. There are a lot of difference between mono and stereo versions, some almost amounting to different takes.
So far, I've only had the time to listen to one, but I did catch a long-talked-about difference---in the mono version of "Please Please Me," John Lennon doesn't blow the last verse, as he does in the stereo version. I look forward to running through these, and maybe later adding them all to my iPod as well.
(Or almost all..."Revolution #9" is still off my list, and I still have to figure out how to make most of Side Two of "Abbey Road" into one big single track.)
((Also by the way, you won't find "Yellow Submarine," "Abbey Road," or "Let it Be" in this package---they were exclusively mixed for stereo. The latter two are omitted...mono mixes of the four original songs for "Yellow Submarine" are included in this package's version of "Past Masters." (Later only-stereo singles are omitted as well.)))
[edited 'cause I meant "Revolution #9" and not "#1"]
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i had to bribe the janiter of the nuthouse to smuggel me with the trash for $,5000.00.
and i jumpt a train back to las cruces and hitch hike back to WSMR.
damn.
RFW2nd
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On an unrelated note does anybody know the significance of: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. Because that's my new favorite sentence.
Here's another musing. Personality strengths can transform into weaknesses during the writing process. Pacifists struggle to write fictional conflict. Ponderers are tempted to see every word as flawed and edit endlessly. Truth-seekers recoil from presenting layers of secrets kept by characters. I like to dream that every weakness may be improved, though.
I wish I some witty and insightful musing to go here.....
In the Internet fanfic community I used to hang out in, we had a rhyming contest with different rhymes to "ain" / "ane" / "ayn" etcetera. (It rhymed with one of the main characters' names.) The thing lasted for months, and I could always come up with another one.
I'm a pretty easy going, calm, optimistic person and yet everything I write tends to be genocide, disease and murder, not usually in a nihilistic way. (Although there is this one story where everyone dies.) I try to write happy things but it always turns down a terrible road.
i got $80.00 for it and a happy shot and the I LOVE ME JACKET.
any way my buddy was palying Modern Warfare 2 and the first misssion was giving me flash backs to Afg. looked just like Kandahar.
i could not sleep that night
RFW2nd
I shoveled my driveway for the first time tonight! I feel so grown up.
i try to stay away from them. actialy i dont realy play games anymore.
RFW2nd
(For the record, where I live, it has snowed, twice, since I got dragged down here.)
I started with "Once upon a time," and ended with the prince and princess killing each other and burning down the castle.
Good times, good times.
~Sheena

Great opening, right?
RFW2nd
It's chilly now at 2:40 pm (55 degrees F)and is supposed to be very cold (37 degrees F) tonight. This is about as cold as it ever gets here. (Of course there are other areas of So.Cal. that get colder but I'm speaking for here in the middle, well, West Hollywood.)
I feel for you ScaredyDog and anyone else that's freezing their tuckus off. We only have a few days of this cold and that's plenty. I don't know how you do it.
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i am in the middle of the desert right next to Mexico and it snowed some one help me figure that one out. it was 100+ in the summer.
It's called global warming buddy get used to it. Just remember whatever happens it's global warming's fault. Whether it gets cold or hot or somewhere in the middle it's global warming's fault. This morning I slept in so I couldn't scrape the road before noon, somehow that's global warming's fault. (Just having fun here, don't sic global warming on me.)
I love the snow, but the van I have right now sucks in the snow, and I have to park in the road because I work nights. (So I don't box in people who need to leave in the morning.) This is going to be a trying winter.
I feel so fulfilled.
Anyone know how to make baklava?
If it's -43 deg C and you walk into a room that's 0 deg C does it feel warm?
As for me, I look out at a snow covered landscape as well. It nearly hit 0 deg F last night. Gotta watch out for water pipes. I guess when it's -43 deg C you've gotta watch out for breathing pipes.
That is all...
~Sheena
*The above statement is a lie, but I will make you guess which parts are true and which parts are fiction.
ANY WAY.....
Walt Disney is going to PAY (with the body of Walt Disney him self....) if they excuse my russian **** up TRON.
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/tron/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxolhNz6n4o
Rommel Fenrir Wolf THE SECOND
It's not a casual you go your way and I'll go my way thing either. If I saw Christmas on the street I wouldn't cross to the other side, I'd get right up in his face and say mean things like "Your socks don't match." and "The easter bunny can totally take you."
I want it to be January 1 so all I have to worry about is paying my taxes.
Christmas sucks.
Ah, well, there's always next Christmas.
Even if the store was there it might not have had the electric flyswatter. I'll bet it's a seasonal item. You might try your local hardware store too.
I once tried to buy a garden hose at the drug store (Sav-on, at the time) on Thanksgiving and was told it was 'seasonal'. Mind you, I'm in Los Angeles and it was 78F and sunny. I can only attribute this to the corporate idio..decision makers being back east and their brains being frozen. (No offense to any of you who actually live back east. You're here on Hatrack so obviously your brains aren't frozen.) Why they don't have regional managers making the product decisions for their areas I'll never know.
Or maybe I'll see one somewhere 'round before Christmas. There's always a chance, isn't there?
Thank you, anyway.
On page 45 under "1985 - 25 Years Ago," there's an entry for "Literature." They list seven titles, among them Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game
To find that title listed there, among the other titles, amuses me no end, and I felt the need to share it with all of you.
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Has the kitten/cat knocked the tree over yet?
The tree is in a corner, guarded closely by two pieces of a sectional sofa--so closely it can't fall--but the little b@st@rd get it a-rockin' like it's in the midst of a tornado. He's at the age between kitten and adult that consists mostly of yowling, spontaneous spaz attacks and biting-and-clawing everything paper-related.
It's all Marie Antionette's fault.
Edit; Uhhm... please!
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Just edit the post that has the formatting you're interested in. You won't be able to save your edit, but you can see the original markup.
You mean like this?
edit; got it... thanks!
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During my geology final yesterday, I realized that I could actually make the landscape in my novel make geological sense. I had to turn over a piece of scrap paper and map out the events that led to the world being the way it was. It was great.
If you want inspiration for physical world building, I highly recommend taking a geology class.
By the way, ordering something from Amazon-dot-com that's not a book / CD / DVD doesn't hold any terrors for me...I've done it before with other things...the one that stands out in my mind has a backstory:
Several Christmasses ago (should that have two "s"s or three?), I got this odd-shaped Circulon pan for a gift, twelve inches, but high on one side and low on the other. I liked it, liked it a lot, use it a lot, too. But it needed a lid. They didn't have them in stores. I tracked down Circulon on the web to see if they had a lid for it (I didn't want to mate up something that didn't "belong" with the pan---I've had trouble with that sort of thing before). They didn't sell them directly, but they did through a couple of online realtors, one of which was Amazon-dot-com...and the rest was easy.
{Poetic.*
You people bring tears to my eyes.
The line is: "Hmm, not enough." (pause/action) "Still not enough!"
It's a man's voice. Middle-aged, I think.
I have a feeling it's from Robin Williams. At least thats how the voice sounds in my memory. Maybe Aladdin. Oh, yeah. It is! Followed by "Watch out they spit", and then "He's got the outfit, he's got the elephant...Gonna make you a star."
Or something.
~Sheena
A guy has a 70-minute video tearing apart The Phantom Menace. So you fans out there may not want to watch it, plus there's some sprinkling of colorful language (including a couple of f-bombs). Though it tears apart the movie, the guy touches on aspects on writing that we all need to be aware of, and he makes some great points re: character, plot, etc.
This isn't for everyone, but if you've got a twisted sense of humor, and you didn't like The Phantom Menace, you just might enjoy this rant.
KDW - IF YOU THINK THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE, DELETE AS YOU SEE FIT. IF IT IS DELETED, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK CAN EMAIL ME.
Here is the link
http://www.petitiononline.com/rrdvdrpo/petition.html
RFW2nd
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What I don't appreciate is when someone posts a link that has nothing to do with writing or the purpose of this forum, and the poster of the link doesn't say what the link actually goes to (so I have to check it out--and I would rather not be exposed to some of the things that people have posted links to recently).
Your description is detailed enough that people can decide whether to follow the link without having to actually follow it.
Thank you.
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I have a feeling it's from Robin Williams. At least thats how the voice sounds in my memory. Maybe Aladdin. Oh, yeah. It is! Followed by "Watch out they spit", and then "He's got the outfit, he's got the elephant...Gonna make you a star."
Yes! Yes, that's it! Thank you!
I've been wondering about it for days.
Anyway, I ordered it from Amazon-dot-com, right after posting...and, this morning, there it was at my P. O. Box. I might've had to wait for Monday if somebody I knew hadn't been sorting out the mail right behind it.
It's not precisely the model I saw, but it will do for the purpose I intend it for. I got two of 'em, one for me and one for my brother. I haven't actually plugged it in yet---put the batteries in and turned it on, actually---but it's really the wrong time of year for flies and such. (My parents have a bee infestation at their house, but my mother usually traps the errant bees inside the house and releases them back into the wild. A flyswatter, electric or otherwise, would not work as a present.)
So how much shopping is everyone doing this week?
I have one artsy project to do. The rest I hope to be able to finish Sunday but that may be wishful thinking.
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but it will do for the purpose I intend it for. I got two of 'em, one for me and one for my brother.
These two sentences together conjure an interesting image. Or perhaps that's just me, the reader, imprinting my own relationship with my brother onto the text.
Good Luck!
But they're still impossible people to shop for, all my relatives. I don't know what they're into, what they'd like, what they need, what operating systems they use for gaming, the works. (None of 'em are particularly into books---though my brother and his family both read and gave me six of the seven Harry Potter books, they're not into anything similar---so I can't shop for them at the bookstores where I shop.)
Two points: (1) I avoid giving clothes---I didn't like this as a kid, and am not to fond of it as an adult, either. And (2), being conscious of the state of the economy, last year and this, I gave up giving gift cards---I give cash.
It's Dec 21 and I still have to buy a present for my husband.
What's the latest you ever bought a Christmas present? I worked selling perfume on the 24th one year. It was an interesting experience.
(Procrastination can be fatal, can't it?)
I can't figure out what to get my roommate. He's the last big mystery.
The project I was doing for my boss went well. I got him a pair of burnt orange Vans Chukka Lows and painted African designs on them. He collects African art and likes funky shoes and clothes so I think he'll like them.
My presents are already done (except a gift basket that needs some cellophane). Even the gift I bought for my husband last night.
What I find most amusing is that while the gifts our inlaws and us have bought are all very modestly sized (there are quite a number of books in there), my mother buys the biggest honkin' things she can lay her hands on.
And while that's okay at some level - she can be herself, after all - I just have to wonder at the sanity of some of the choices. Like we happen to know (based on the shape and a regular visit to Toys-R-Us) that one is an electric piano for one of the kids. Which would be neat, except that we already have a fullsized piano that the kids play on.
Sigh. It's the thought that counts, I suppose.
I used almost the last of my "distinctive wrapping paper"---I like to buy something a little odd and use it several times over. These past three years, it's a light-blue with "Let it snow!" printed in neat sequencing all over it. But now it's down to the end of the last roll.
You can never get the same wrapping paper from year to year. I'll be on the prowl through the discounted piles over the next week...but, more likely, I'll buy three or four rolls of something else next year.
(Not that I haven't had failures. Once I bought this odd stuff---I liked the pattern, but the stuff tore up when I cut it, tore up when I wrapped things in it, and tore up when the wrapped gifts were handled. Useless. I wound up buying new stuff at the last minute and rewrapping everything.)
Last night my boyfriend and I wrapped presents and this year we were smart enough to clear off the table so we'd have a good place to work. It went well and we had fun. There are still a few odds and ends left but it seems like Christmas is rolling smoothly, knock on wood.
Anyhoosers.
Have a good one.
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Not that it gives me any great joy, putting all that effort into something that'll be undone in seconds...
Hey! That's how I feel about preparing an elaborate meal. Or any kind of meal, come to think of it. If I can't fix it as fast as it's going to be eaten, I'm not sure I want to bother.
I've been in the mood to spell merry as marry, so I've just been going with it.
I still have a bunch of wrapping to do and I need to clean my room. (A tradition from when I was a kid, Christmas didn't come to a dirty room. Santa would come and say, "He doesn't need any more toys he's up to his ears in what he already has.")
Charlie Brown: Oh, brother.
Sally: Please note the size and color of each item, and send as many as possible. If it seems too complicated, make it easy on yourself: just send money. How about tens and twenties?
Charlie Brown: Tens and twenties? Oh, even my baby sister!
Sally: All I want is what I... I have coming to me. All I want is my fair share.
---A Charlie Brown Christmas
I always thought that if Santa ever got that letter, Sally would get what's coming to her.
I don't know...I've got a friend who raved about a homemade piece of lasagne I gave her...most of my family expressed appreciation for the homemade spaghetti-and-sauce I put together Christmas Eve...and, when it comes down to it, I like to eat well, and, since working in the fast-food industry cured me of wanting to eat out on a regular basis, cooking it myself is the only way to go.
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also i found 35acers for 150,000USD in the area where my buddy lives. man i cant waite.
RFW2nd
It really sucks when your vacuum at work stops sucking so all you're doing is wetting the floor.
When we lived in Texas, we heard that snow was coming one winter, and I was very excited. But it didn't get as far south as we were (Victoria--halfway between Houston and Corpus Christi). 
The north is the only place where they know how to deal with snow, which, I suppose, is logical.
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*****
For the record, it's snowed twice down here in Florida in the thirty-plus years I've been here. Neither time was it enough to accumulate on the ground.
It was forty-five here this morning when I got up.
The other day I was driving in a snowstorm and I saw an out of state license plate, I gave them a bunch of room. (Even 4wd is pointless if you don't know how to use it.) Then I laughed at myself when I pulled up behind them at a red light and I read the plate, "Calgary."
We got 2+ feet of snow last week for Christmas. They only finished plowing the streets outside my house yesterday, because someone finally crashed into the 7-foot pile of snow they left in the middle of the intersection.
My house has no heat right now. We're discussing the logistics of draining the pipes so they don't freeze. Fingers crossed this gets fixed before everything shuts down for New Year's!
But bear with me on this. Here in sunny Florida, turning the water off to fix the plumbing might be considerably different than draining them out to avoid freezing in them. Somebody who knows what he talks about should be telling you this---if there's anybody out there reading this, enlighten all of us.
The reason I 'forgot' the second half of the rule is because I am a living violation of it.
I live in Manassas, learned to drive in Maryland (both locations are below the Mason-Dixon line), and I had a blast driving my 4WD Xterra in that deep pre-C-mas snow. In fact, I was recruited by everyone in my house to run errands that day.
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Every time it snows in VA, I go out to see the ditches full of SUVs whose drivers thought that 4WD gave them the power to stop even if the road is sheet ice.
You remind me of me. I'm honored.
Driving in bad conditions is a matter of being honest about your knowledge of basic physics and with your own driving abilities. Ergo, I am not one of those who believe that 4WDs can rewrite the physical property laws of ice. One of the funniest things I've ever seen while behind the wheel was during icy road conditions; an SUV was stuck in a ditch on Rt. 7, wheels straight up. I suspect this guy's ego was the only thing injured in the wipeout.
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Really now. Snow is harmless. Usually it melts in a few hours for you southern folk. Pipes won't freeze until the temp falls into the mid-twenties and it has to stay that way for a good day. Even southern homes have some sort of insulation.
As far as the dangerous roads go, just remember these simple rules (trust me, plenty of northerners forget them every year).
1) At the minimum double the length you would usually allow between cars and slow down. A good rule is 5 under instead of the 5 over most sane people drive.
2) Keep both hands on the wheel. It will be easier for you to feel your tires slipping if you do. When your car begins to skid (it will at some point) for god sakes, Don't Panic!. Keep your feet away from the pedals. No brake or gas. Once you feel your tires grab dry ground again, do what you need to do to straighten your vehicle.
Almost everyone has experienced hydro-planeing before. Sliding on ice is a lot like that except it happens slower yet you have less control. It can feel like your sliding forever when it happens too. When this happens think of your tires as rudders. You can effect which way you go if you keep this in mind.
3) If you do run off the road, don't freak. Snow will cushion an impact (if there is enough). If you over steer you can flip your car. This is more likely to happen if you drive a vehicle with a higher center of gravity like a van. Aim for the 45 degree angle of the embankment and ride it out. Don't worry, someone will tow you out. If all you did was slide off the road it will be unlikely your car will be damaged. You will only have lost time a bit money to get pulled out (unless you good samaritian pulls you out for free
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4) Wind is a bigger threat than ice. A gust at the right time will shove you into a tale spin. If this happens don't hit the brake! Use your tires as rudders and steer with the spin. Once you hit dry pavement you can pull yourself right out of the 360 like nothing happened. Only your eardrums will be damaged from the screaming of your passengers.
One other warning about wind and ice. You may be driving past a truck, cruising like there is nothing wrong at all, then once you get past his nose it feels like god himself decided to make you fear him once again. If you feel the need to pass a slow moving truck be aware of this danger and brace yourself for a push from the side. If your ready for it you might be okay.
5) Watch for the ice! If the black top looks blacker than usual its ice. If it shines at night, its ice. Ironically, driving on snow is safer than black top sometimes. Snow grips, its only when it gets compacted that it gets slippery.
6) Learing to drive in snow will earn you the respect of your fellow drivers.
Really, they'll think your a superhero seeing you handle your car without the slightest bit of fear in your eyes. You'll even laugh at all the idiots piled in the medium when you go by. If you really want to be a superstar, carry a shovel and salt/sand/ or Kitty litter in your car. If you display coolness under pressure and show that you are prepard for this horrible crisis, people will actually believe that you are someone to be looked up to. You could even run for office. It's how Al Gore got started.
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Kitti just leave some water running. A trickle from a single faucet should keep the water moving through the pipes. (It takes a lot more cold to freeze flowing water.) That way you still have water.
It's snowing again and I have to hit the road. I pray thee, stay home all ye weak of knowledge in driving physics! :-)
Happy New Year!!!
Of me and my two brothers, I'm the only one who spent a whole winter driving through snow. They're a year younger than me; they got their licenses in the spring and we moved in September.
I'll never forget getting stuck at the turn onto Spackenkill Road...or being unable to get home because I couldn't get traction on any of the hills that led into our neighborhood...or driving in a whiteout. (The first two of these were on the same day, come to think of it.)
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May your 2010 be an improvement on all things 2009.
Thank you. I agree, and wish that for everyone!
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This thread is slowing a bit. What will come first? Jan 1st 2010 or post 2010?
We weren't even close.
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A new decade and all I have to show for it is a sack of letters.
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I agree there is no wrong time to laugh at Napolean Dynamite. That's what it's there for. Now 2001 Space Odyssey, that's the movie where I laugh at the wrong places.
Kinda extends backwards, too...I've got the first five seasons of "SNL" on DVD, looking for the bits I like (and finding them, and laughing), but a lot of it left me just as cold as its latter-day incarnation. Did I really think Al Franken was funny?
Their presidential election-based skits were always amusing to me. I still remember, during a rather intense pre-calc exam in college, mumbling Will Ferrell's quote as George W, just loud enough for some of my classmates to hear: "Strategery." Our concentration level sank quite a bit after that. The professor glared around the class to find out where all the snickering was coming from, but realized what section of the class was involved, then went back to his book without a word.
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No one can tell me that Plan 9 From Outerspace wasn't meant to be funny.
No one can ever know the true soul of their shoe.
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No one can ever know the true soul of their shoe.
You can if you are a heel.
Oh wait this isn't the movie quotes thread.
It helps that my hubby cares more and tries to keep up. My rule is don't complain or fret about it, just choose whether or not to do it. There's usually a higher priority.
The best incentive? Invite company over for dinner, especially someone other than family.
Although, I generally clean as a means to procrastinate from other work.
feel free to brrowe anything i write.
RFW2nd
--Brother Dave Gardner
Rule # 35: That which does not kill you has made a tactical error.
---The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates.
wait... wait... I can hear somebody using a calculator... or is it a slide rule...
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I would prefer not to post it here because it is about lobotomies, and its for a story idea I thought of, but I cant find the answer to my question anywhere on the internet on websites, minus those who are for doctors only and have restricted access.
Thanks
RFW2nd
PS: no i dont sleep much, i have been awake for 34 hours, and no energy drinks, coffie, tea, soda, etc.
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BTW - that's for the "blue pill" comment on Facebook.
The terror of the ages is nothing more than a baby squid. (Of course it's a baby squid the size of the universe, and he's hungry.)
Asked by Brown, Ethan. PVT US Army.
Rommel Fenrir Wolf II
Maybe.
But I don’t know if they are still able to think and trapped in their bodies or are they just completely brain dead?
I knew of someone who worked in the engineering department of a university who'd had a lobotomy.
i cant find any thing saying if the ones who became vegetables could still think, that is what my lobotomy zombie story is about. i just wanted to get my facts strate, but cant find the answers.
RFW2nd
I wouldn't recommend it.
I really should be doing my homework.
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...it's snowed twice down here in Florida in the thirty-plus years I've been here...
Make that three times.
Just guessing!
RFW2nd
Pick the President by the associated food -
1. Broccoli
2. Hamburger
3. Jelly Bean
4. Peanut
A frontal lobotomy (what is usually meant when the term "lobotomy" is used) should not cause people to be either a "vegetable" or "trapped in their bodies." The communication areas are not usually in the frontal lobe of the brain.
George H.W. Bush (the first President Bush) doesn't like broccoli, and Ronald Reagan liked jelly beans so much that the Utah Republican Committee chairman, who happened to own an ice cream business at the time, had jelly bean ice cream created in his honor and sent to him.
Don't know about hamburger and peanuts, though I'd guess that peanuts might belong to Jimmy Carter.
I once saw Obama eating a hamburger on the news. I don't really know why.
There are so many ways to be victorian.
Just watching LEON (released as The Professional here in the States), and there's a scene with a somewhat pudgy political-type getting out of the limousine to go jogging, surrounded by bodyguard-types, and he says he wants a burger just before he takes off at a trot.
Other than that...one of the oldest items on my knicknack shelf is a plastic piggybank in the shape of a peanut, with Jimmy Carter's smile. In high school (around the time I acquired it), in art class, I had to draw an item from life, and I drew this---which the teacher didn't believe until I brought it in to show her.
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Was the 'Meisterburger'burgermeister' ever the President? Anyone care to take a stab at where this guy appeared? Hmmm?
And yes, Rich, Clinton loved hamburgers, and would often stop at McDonalds during [political] road trips.
Had to scramble around to cancel the charge and get down on my knees in front of my telephone to get the bank to reverse the charge.
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the one your wife doesn't know about
Besides, it's much easier to fix these things by showing up at the bank itself.
My writing is moving along but besides that I've had no impetus to do much on my days off.
Right around the first I had four days off and on two separate ones I never even got out of my pajamas. After NaNo and Christmas and overdue dental work, essentially two months of my days off being eaten, the break at New Year's was bliss. But now I'm having trouble getting back into accomplishing things on my days off. You know the stuff: oil change, laundry, cleaning the bedroom, getting the back window sealed on the car, etc. I'm just feeling a bit draggy.
I am trying to get back in the swing. I actually called out 'sick' from work today, (no lies,I told them it was a mental health day) and I plan to get some things done and get out a little, probably by going to the beach or maybe to feed ducks at the park. Maybe I've just been inside too much.
Anyone else feeling a lull? Or has the New Year energized you?
On the home front, I enforced a kind of lull right before Christmas, in that I didn't do some things [like writing] only in favor of doing other things [like Christmas shopping]. New Year's Day was filled with all that first-of-the-month, first-of-the-year, every-three-months chores I keep lists of to remind me to do them. In between I did little...but the week after I swung things around and got back to writing (at least).
There are still chores to do, that I just, gosh-darnit, haven't gotten around to doing. I've got about six months of mail to go through and sort and shred---but I just haven't gotten around to it. Plus a few other projects I keep putting off, like cleaning out this pigsty I call an office.
I also watched a Jackie Chan movie called The Myth and dude, that was the best of his movies. (And I've seen a lot of his movies, from Fantasy Mission Force to Miracles to Gorgeous to Operation Condor to Shanghai Noon to The Jackie Chan Adventures(animation) to Twin Dragons to Mister Nice Guy to Heart of the Dragon (oh dear I appear to be listing again!) my favorite used to be Tiger Fist.)
Wow I did a whole list without a non-sequitur. I don't know if I should be proud of myself or if I should be horrified. Either way I think I deserve a nap.
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Question 3.
a) Men think only about sex.
b) A man called Gary is thinking.Conclusion
Therefore Gary is thinking about sex.
i just found the best sight with most of the facts in one place.
http://yaiolani.tripod.com/handbook.htm
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thank you KDW.
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i have looked on every art/comic page i know and could not find anythinng.
http://yaiolani.tripod.com/furry.htm
thanks
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I think I just needed to recharge my solar batteries.
Writing? To a certain extent, doing influenced my appreciation of, but it was a more gradual process.
I actually work in place where we get a lot of celebrity clients. There are some I can't stand to watch and some that I like better because I know they are a nice person.
If they don't do anything terribly offensive I try not to let it interfere but if they're extremely rude they can ruin a movie for me.
It just goes to show that no matter how big and important someone is they shouldn't forget basic manners.
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dose anyone know what comic they cot the this pic of man-wolf?
Probably the Marvel comics involving John Jameson (Man-Wolf).
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I made friends with a squirrel at the park yesterday. She was taking stuff right from my hand.
And in defense of randomness: Bjork!
I will tell you that this squirrel took the food from me very carefully. I also made sure that it was a large enough piece where my fingers wouldn't be too close to her teeth. I was actually surprised when she came all the way up to me. And I certainly would never try to pick one up or pet it.
But I also have a lot of experience with animals. We had a large variety of pets when I was growing up, including hamsters and rabbits (and dogs and birds and lizards and fish and frogs). And I currently have mice. So I feel I have a little understanding of critters. There is something to be said for knowing how to approach them.
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A lotta ones I admired (and admire) are among those who, I belatedly realized, behaved like jerks, or were seriously wrong-headed about one thing another. (Asimov and Heinlein, and all four Beatles, have done lots of things I disapprove of.) It hasn't affected my opinion of their work---or, at least, I don't think it has.
Of course I don't know any of these people personally---which would make or break the relationship.
However, I tend to be able to overlook things I do not like about individuals and try to relate to them in other ways. Some of my past and present clients have done some very bad things, but I focus on what they are doing now or at least are trying to do. My chess partner in college was very liberal and I was very conservative. We often had political and philosophical debates while battling on black and white squares, but we were always respectful to one another and ended our games and debates with proper amiableness.
*Edit: Nevermind! I say "thad" for "that would". I guess I hadn't seen the contraction before.
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Politics is hardly the only subject that will get on people's nerves---but, of late, in the USA, it seems to be the main one. Probably it's because the outcome of politics is so important...
HOWEVER
There are two writers whose work I will not buy any longer. One because he doesn't like me and I don't like him. The second one is a little different as I had no idea what kind of guy he was til I visited his message board. That was an eye-opener. It also made me rethink his attitudes in his novels as I think he's allowed his personal issues to interfere with his work.
I think it's easier to ignore an artist's faults when he or she is dead (Carroll), but it's harder to do so when the artist is alive.
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I think it's easier to ignore an artist's faults when he or she is dead (Carroll), but it's harder to do so when the artist is alive.
In a limited extent. On one hand, most of the "fault" I've found with Asimov and Heinlein has come after they're dead, some of it through changes in my own opinions, but some of it from finding they'd engaged in certian, er, "activities" that I thoroughly disapprove of. (Not the same ones in each case.)
They're hardly the only deceased writers who've done that, either. Recently it was put about in the SF world that Lester Del Rey (y'know, of Del Rey Books) shoveled with both hands about his life before he came into the SF community. The ultimate effect on me was to diminish him in my eyes.
I suppose some of it is a byproduct of my own growth (or my going from youth to middle-age). Once they seemed like gods to me, and now they seem like men---and maybe lesser men at that.
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On the other hand---I bet you thought I forgot about the other hand, didn't you?---I don't share the same political belief system or opinions as the still-living-as-of-at-least-a-few-days-ago Frederik Pohl. But my high regard for him as a writer and editor hasn't shifted any, and I regularly read his website blogging, no matter what point on the political spectrum his opinion may be coming from.
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I like cake, but I hate pie.
The most interesting couple I've ever know used to live next door. One was a strait laced Mormon the other a chain smoking Methodist. They could discuss nearly everything with each other. (And they disagreed on nearly everything.) The one thing they could not discuss was the Vietnam war. She protested against it and he volunteered for the army. Every time it came up they got divorced for about a year then got back together. (It's happened about four times.)
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Wow, we've finally had the same conversation twice.
Actually, after being here, what is it, four years now, I've used up most of my "A" material and have wound up repeating myself. How many different ways can I say that I'm suspicious of the Scientologists and don't submit to the WotF for that reason? Or that I've read and liked a lot of Orson Scott Card's work, but the "Ender" series is not among them?
As I recall, your suspicions of the Scientologists running WOTF arose because of junk mail received after either joining the WOTF mailing list or submitting a story. Interestingly, the rest of us haven't noticed a correlation. What happened to your Inbox could have been a coincidence or the result of someone stealing email addresses.
...and I did read the original of "Ender's Game" when it appeared in Analog all those years ago...reread it a few years later (but still a long time ago now) when I went on an Orson Scott Card kick and reread everything of his I could (then) lay my hands on...but still didn't care for it...
man i am so stoned
what am i?
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and most Civies understand gun better than Weapon
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I carry around a dull sword now and again and may in the future walk around in public with a sharpened blade, so I guess I should research local law. Rommel, as you're moving to my region, I'll let you know what I learn.
You must be a Libertarian.
I believe in Japan swords are regulated as strictly as guns---given how sharp a Japanese swords is, I don't find it surprising.
I should say, especially after what I said yesterday, that I don't own a gun. I'm all for the right to keep and bear arms, but I just don't own any. I could, but I don't want to.
In Highschool I made a sword in the metal shop. I never actually took it home, I wonder if it's still sitting there in the back room. I did use it once for a presentation in mythology, but when I walked through the halls with it I got the most fantastic looks. Now I want that thing, blasted social anxiety.
I'm so freakin excited!!!!!!!!
!~Sheena
As for guns, and irrespective of political views, I've often thought about something my dad once said: Only carry a gun if you're prepared to have it used against you.
no i am a Fascists Socialistic Imperialistic Republican, i hate everyone well humans that is.
my blood has turned to booze. i wish my face will turn to booze. then my blood can drink my face.
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Somehow I always hoped it would be me who got famous...
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Only carry a gun if you're prepared to have it used against you.
I talked to a police officer yesterday about my city's sword laws. He told me any blade--regardless of sharpness--over three and a half inches must not be concealed. Sheathing counts as concealment (which surprised me). Also, anything that "alarms the public", at the determination of the responding police officer(s), is illegal. My city isn't as lenient as I'd thought.
both people look alike but one is over 60now and the other is 22.
http://rommelwolf2nd.deviantart.com/art/Before-and
-after-151165402
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?entry_id=55840
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My husband comes home frantic and retakes her temperature, this time realizing that I put the thermometer shield on incorrectly.
He fixes it, retakes her temperature, and it is a balmy 100.2 degrees.
She is sick, but not call the grandparents sick.
Woops. 
~Sheena
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A hypothetical astronaut traveling towards the black hole center would not experience significant tidal forces until very deep into the black hole.
With this in mind and the hypothetical Molecular Disruption Device from Enders Game, what would happen if one was detonated with in a black hole?
Would it explode like the Bugger Home World, or would it Evaporate like according to Stephen Hawking’s theory of Black Hole Evaporation?
This has been bugging me since I thought it up the other day. I just want you all to know that I am neither a theoretical physicist nor clime to be one but this is blowing my mind with in my twisted little in need of lobotomy brain.
By the way, I also called several neurosurgeons and found out that a “Ice Pick,” or Trans Orbital Lobotomy depending on what you are trying to do can make someone into a zombie. They are in fact living "awake" dead with very, very, very, very, little thought process and semi aware like a new born baby.
Yes I know this is more than 13 lines or sentences whatever. This is random musings. At the moment its mine. Because I am one random person.
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Quantum Mechanics allows for a black hole to leak or spray out the other side (probably not the best terms to use, but fairly accurate descriptions).
Regardless, the bomb would be sucked into the hole with no perceivable effect, but over billions of years could possibly shoot back out the other side.
I would've thought putting the shield on the (digital?) thermometer wrong would have produced a lower reading, not a higher one. "Shimiqua," keep monitoring the situation.
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They say that the term "black hole" is considered not-PC. However, they offered no substitutes. Wonder how they felt about the Black Hole of Calcutta?
(Or at least "someone" says. I forget who.)
This is why I should know better than to watch TV while I eat dinner. ::sighs::
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Personally I think an MD in a black hole would create a reaction but I think it would stay inside the event horizon, so it wouldn't change much at all. Or even be observable from the outside. (If I remember right the MD didn't destroy the matter just reordered it.)
"Outside of a dog a book is a man's best friend, inside a dog it's too dark to read." --Groucho Marx
color at iris color
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PS: dose anyone know Stephen Hawking's e-mail address/ phone number/ mail address???
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I always used to hear about generations of poor saps who were grad students, being sent up to try to get an interview with J. D. Salinger. They always got the brushoff...of course, from press reports yesterday, any interview conducted would be pretty one-sided.
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(1) When will that big posthumously-published interview come out? (Salinger can't put the lie to it now.)
(2) When will the first new work of his be published? (Rumor has it Salinger was still at it, just not publishing.)
(3) When will the movie version of The Catcher in the Rye come out? (Salinger hated the movie made of one of his short stories, and never sold film rights to anything else.)
Just so there's no doubt, I *hated* The Catcher in the Rye. It's one of those things I had to read for school, and that always put me up against the eight-ball as far as enjoying what I read. Perhaps if I read it today...but, then, no, I remember it pretty well and don't think I'd like it any better.
Nukes over Baghdad!
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watch Pi by Darren Aronofsky. it will blow your mind and make you crazy like me

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I'm tired, and I'm somewhat fluffy.
I think it's snowed once a week, every week, for two solid months now. Yeah, that might be the norm up north, but not south of the Mason-Dixon line...
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Please cease the Latin and the lobotomies.
Thank you.
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Too many of your posts assert that you are participating in actual illegal activities, and I am hereby asking you to stop talking about them on this forum whether you can stop doing them or not.
But as a topic for a real conversation I'll throw out Curling. Does any of you actually understand the game of curling? If so is it exciting? I think it's real exciting, but I don't understand one lick of it.
When are they going to be doing that, anyway?
That's what I've gleaned anyway.
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Then a couple of Winter Olympics ago, they included curling as an event, and I got to see a whole game played---and it all fell into place and the game made a lot of sense.
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I'm also happy that the trick competitions are in the Olympics.
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Good thing those edits aren't time stamped.
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But really guys, I am Sparticus. (But don't tell Sparticus that, because he thinks I'm SupraMan.)
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Okay... so... she's a dog!
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One time I turned into a dog and these guys helped me.
Have I ever mentioned that I have an irrational fear of the stay-puffed marshmallow man? Seriously.
When I told her that she was going to be a teenager in a few years, she said, "I know."
I have no idea how or why this came from her, but I've done all I can do as far as raising her. She's on her own now. I gave her the keys to the car, fifty bucks, and she's off to make her way in the world. Her sister and I waved to her as she drove off.
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You gave your 8 year old the keys to the car and kicked her out of the house?
She's a very good driver. And "kicked her out of the house"...well, I wouldn't quite put it that way. She knows what she's doing.
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Last night I had a Jedi dream. There was a huge battle going on and for some reason I only had a toy Lightsaber. So I had to use other tactics and convince people that my Lightsaber was real.
I have a clear memory of driving my father's Nash Rambler around our backyard---when I was three. But that seems impossible on the face of it. I figured I sat on his lap with my hands on the wheel.
Fincher is a god. It says so in my restraining order.
"Hey you can't just cancel the contract."
"Sorry I can, acts of God clause."
"Huh?"
"Line 345, God shall in this contract be defined as Mister Black."
There was a commercial, I think for a Ford, where some ditzy twenty-something said (essentially), "Teehee, I don't know when I'm supposed to get my oil changed. I'm glad someone else had decided to do the thinking for me,(insert hair twirl here)."
So as cars are getting smarter are the people who are driving them getting dumber? No offense meant to anyone here, by the way.
People with Toyotas that got a stuck accelerator kept speeding up and ended up crashing because they didn't know enough about how their car works to put it in neutral and use the brakes. Is this really that difficult? Am I missing something about modern cars that would make this an impossible maneuver?
Forgive me, but I think if you're handling a 2000 pound piece of machinery you should understand at least the basics of how it works.
We shouldn't let it get to the point that we rely on computers to do our thinking for us or our brains will turn to mush.
What do you think?
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What do you think?
A fellow here in Australia decided to save fuel by turning his car off while driving down a hill. Only, in doing so he locked the steering wheel, crashed into the back of a truck, and died. He had just been awarded his license (lnk).
It is something I both do and don't understand. On the one hand, the world is getting more complex; thanks to consumerism and a growing economy there are always more products being produced with shorter lifespans, the end result of which being that most users have no way to learn how to best use everything they have before the next product hits the market and obsoletes their previous one. Thanks to this mentality finding its way into consumers via ipods and cellphones and tweets, with all the distractions that they entail, when it comes time to, say, drive a car, it's dealt with in the same manner. To put not too fine a point on it: negligently.
Perhaps, once upon a time, technological progress was a new thing and we took time to learn about it. Perhaps back then, parents taught their kids about the world they were growing up in because (a) they didn't have TV or a 5pm appointment at the gym to distract them, (b) the world was changing at a pace that parents didn't feel like they were being made obsolete. There were big things happening in the world - cold war and nuclear weapons and post-war reconstruction - and those issues impacted everyone, so people wanted to stay informed.
Now, we're 'rich'. Products are released in a steady stream of feature creep less due to scientific innovation and more through a calculated design to maximise repeat sales. Responsibility, which goes hand in hand with moderation and self-control, is a philosophical bane to sales and marketing: With no moderation comes uncontrolled spending and a bigger cut for the shareholders.
This is a hobby horse of mine (obviously), but it's my opinion that this is a cultural disease that is as much indirectly responsible for overspending, greed and recent economic turmoil as it is for people having limited interest in education (when was the last time you remember your local university *raising* the entry GPA?) and/or the consequences of their actions. And so we come to the issue of negligence - whether it be a driver not realising there are other ways to stop their car, or a manufacturer producing utter rubbish because they know owners will just upgrade in a couple of years.
And to make this musing both lighthearted and, more importantly, random, I give you:
Pickles.
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As to what you were really wondering, yes the more we give away to the machines (this is normal guy not the one who wrote the above rant) the less we keep for ourselves. I was working in a laundry that did a high volume in uniforms, it had done it for years and actually had only recently switched to a barcode system. Well the computer freaked out one day and we had to manually look up the bar codes, every singe one of them, to sort the uniforms. It was a hardship, if we hadn't given up the old system it would have been no problem. This goes back to the old conversation about the price of magic. When you are commanding the power of the cosmos shouldn't you know how it works.
Cars might be getting smarter, but (1) they're a long way from being able to drive themselves anywhere, and (2) they're so gadget dependent and computer dependent, not to mention delicate-in-the-name-of-fuel-conservation, that they're much harder to operate than they once were. (My driving instructor told me her family used to stop their Model T by bumping it against a tree trunk---just try that with your brand new Toyota.)
The problem with modern cars, and, I believe, this Toyota problem in particular (I haven't examined the problem as closely as others may have---right now I drive a 2001 Chevy Cavalier and am not affected by the recall), is that there's no actual connection between the brakes and the brake pedal---it all goes through the computer, along with nearly everything else in the car. By breaking, you're putting your life in the hands of a computer that glitches.
I want ice skating.
I don't know that I'll be watching much more of the games though; it's hard to relate to snow and ice when it's a 110 degree day.
The Olympics have interfered with watching other things on TV. I once watched Part One of an episode of "Bewitched," with a stay in Salem and a warlock who'd been turned into a bedwarmer. They were running it as filler between Olympic sessions (the games were in Munich that year).
Part Two was supposed to be on the next day, and I looked forward to catching it, but when I turned the TV on, they kept showing these long-distance shots of an apartment building where, every so often, this guy would stick his head out. I was seriously disgruntled...until I realized the guy had a gun, and that something had gone terribly wrong at the Munich Olympics. I think you all know what that was.
It was maybe ten years or more before I happened to see Part Two of that episode...but time had passed and I didn't find it all that funny, certainly not as funny as I would've if I'd'a caught it then.
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I notice in my last post that I misspelled "braking" as "breaking," despite spelling it correctly elsewhere. Ah, well.
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Right now my computer keeps telling me it wants to turn itself off so it can update. Once I finish up here I think I'll let it...oh, no, wait, I got another site I want to check out before I'm done.
Keep watching the ethernet.
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Oh good. Ice skating.
With sticks. And running into each other.
Yep, it's all about the ice hockey.
Oh...and the skiing has been fun to watch, too.
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"Pssst! Come here..."
-Leans across and whispering ensues-
"What? You say I am the two thousandth poster on this thread? That will annoy people, especially since I was the one thousandth poster, too. Oh well--who could have known?"
Into Thin Air. Great book. Read it if you get a chance. The author himself came close to dying on Everest. One of the survivors did a speaking engagement at our corporation some time ago, and a friend of mine was invited. He said that listening to the survivor was harrowing, and there wasn't a dry eye in the house after he was done. This guy survived Everest after being left up there to die TWICE.
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I'm gonna write the things that I wanna write.
I ain't gotta thing to prove tonight.
I'm gonna end my phrases adverbally,
Excuse that weather as I set the scene,
I ain't gonna write the prose that you like
I'm fine and dandy with the theme inside.
I look at the white screen, and I'm tickled pink.
I don't give a hoot about what you think!
~ "original lyrics by Weezer.
~Sheena
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2011--The year Pyre sells a novel then he has to tell everyone his real name so they will go buy it.
And actually I wish people would stop saying the Mayans prophesied the end of the world in 2012. They didn't that's just when their calender ends, and thus the age. (Kind of the way our clock ends at 12, unless you're on military.) They do have prophesies, some of them take place in the new age, the one after 2012. Their calender actually goes back longer than the geologic understanding of the age of the universe. They also tortured people sometimes.
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"He had brought a large map representing the sea, without the least vestige of land,
and the crew were all pleased when they found it to be, a map they could all understand.”
Just today, I noticed my "favorite places" list, loaded with hundreds of sites I've looked at and many I look at no more, seems to be creeping around of its own accord. Roughly it's chronological order---appearing in the order I clicked on the "heart" icon---but I have moved a bunch of my online comic strip reading into alphabetical order. Yesterday I did some weeding out, moving some that haven't updated in awhile down to another section of the list.
But this morning I found a whole bunch moved around. It's still happening this afternoon. No idea how it happened---did I activate some obscure feature? Some software glitch or error? Something more sinister?
Who knows? Certainly I don't.
How 'bout this one: "Does this smell like chloroform to you?"
It's better if you add an "ooh, Baby" in front of that.
Chicks dig oooh Baby.
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2011--The year Pyre sells a novel then he has to tell everyone his real name so they will go buy it.
Can't wait for that day, Vernon.
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I loved Alice. It's too early to think flop or hit. Opening weekend sales are only an indication of marketing quality not quality of the movie. I don't think it's the movie most people are expecting.
They are not sure but they do have a lead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R76jSM7GfYc&feature=related
Yesterday, I got four new mice and they are in their mansion having a blast. They are very young and already comfortable with being handled so they are going to be easy to train. They are a hoot to watch. They love to climb on the wheels two or three or four at a time. Sometimes they get it going sometimes they don't.
Today I am going to build a playground, out of plexiglass, for in front of their cage. I have a new design and it will incorporate a portcullis in one wall that I can open and let them roam freely on the coffee table as soon as I can trust them not to try and jump down to the floor.
My life just doesn't feel right without some kind of critter around. These kids are going to be a lot of fun.
musings...okay, how about this: Ever worry that since birds are apparently descendants of dinosaurs that one day a randomly mutated chicken egg or something might crack open to reveal a baby dinosaur? Yeah, I have the weirdest dreams...

Did anyone else hear about the flash fiction contest Podcastle is doing?
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This has got to be fodder for a story.
Someone is selling a time machine.
~Sheena
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Ad #10033946 not found!
Somebody bought it, then went back in time and removed the ad?
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I realized the other day that the first anniversary of this thread was over a month ago. Geez, we didn't even acknowledge it when it passed...
Wow random musings for a year? this recliner thing really works.
---Sam Kinison, on "Married With Children."
Sigh. you know you're getting old when you start daydreaming of cool dental advances.
On a lighter note the other day I saw a engineer's walk of shame. I was cleaning the halls and this guy came past with a cart jam packed with cables of some sort, it was so heavy he was struggling to push it, and he was a bigger guy than me, and I'm a big guy.
Then about an hour later I saw him walking the same direction with two or three cables, his head hanging down.
“From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it.”
– Groucho Marx
"Success is a finished book, a stack of pages each of which is filled with words. If you reach that point, you have won a victory over yourself no less impressive than sailing single-handed around the world."
--Tom Clancy
“From my close observation of writers...they fall into two groups: 1) those who bleed copiously and visibly at any bad review, and 2) those who bleed copiously and secretly at any bad review.”
--Isaac Asimov
"Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger."
--Franklin Jones
"To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing."
--Elbert Hubbard
Shamelessly stolen from Yarn Harlot
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man, I can't wait until they find a way grow teeth in a lab (using a mold cast of the bad tooth, of course)
I think this has been available for years. The current challenge for scientists is to reliably grow replacement teeth in the person's mouth.
Heck growing teeth within my gums...i dunno, I don't want to wait years for them to grow.
I'd rather they reconnect the nerves - but that's a lot of surgery...
(I check it every so often because I'm a knitter, and I'm trying to learn how to spin consistently useful yarn besides.)
http://craftivism.com/blog.html/2010/02/soldiers-knitting-1918/
http://craftivism.com/blog.html/2010/02/soldiers-knitting-part-2/
But, full disclosure: I came across Yarn Harlot via a local SF author's blog.
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Hey, guys can knit too...
And I was, more or less, asking if you were one of them.
Jessica Day George's YA novel PRINCESS OF THE MIDNIGHT BALL has a main character who is a soldier who knits, and his knitting is crucial to the story.
Oh, I really really hope karma exist.
I envy how much time my nieces spend on their art.
Hope they make a movie to finish off the story. They should have been given that chance, at least.
Of course there's video releases. You've heard me mention "my latest timewaster"---"Star Trek: The Original Series," Seasons One and Two, on Blu-Ray. (They were on sale at Best Buy two weeks ago.) I've been kind of off "Star Trek" for some time---haven't seen the new movie yet, and the rest of it kind of wore out its welcome---but going through these reminded me just how much fun the Original Series was.
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I remember working with clay a lot at our school. Must've done somebody some good---one of my classmates heads up the Congressional Budget Office right now. (Yeah, I've mentioned it before...I'm torn between letting myself be eaten up with jealousy and envy, and being grateful it's him and not me.)
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one of my classmates heads up the Congressional Budget Office right now
Any chance he can get those books balanced for us?
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I think American Idol is dying.
Can't happen fast enough, IMHO.
Of course the time machine will turn (has turned) out to be like the flying saucer or Bigfoot. It seemed like a good idea in the planning stages but upon execution it turns out to be an embarrassingly silly waste of materials and time. Our only hope afterward is for most people to not believe it so the few who do are seen as the embarrassingly silly ones. I win!
Just found a new magazine. Giganotosaurus. They publish bigger than short but smaller than novels.
http://giganotosaurus.org/submission-guidelines/
A niche for a thin market.
Oh...this is supposed to be a 'random' thread.
Uh...
I'm out of Easter jelly beans, and my kids have hidden their baskets.
S!
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Thanx, snapper! I've got two stories that fit that word count range
Go for it! Hope you do better than I. My 14000 word masterpiece got a rejection 3 hours after I sent it. I thanked her for her promptness and promised more from me in the future.
By the way, another Friday has rolled around---no check, no word, no money have I none. A promise of a money order fell through, though I'm promised it for tomorrow.
Will I get paid next Friday, when the next paycheck is due? Stay tuned...
I'm quite tired, Friday night I got to sleep about 6 AM, woke up a 10. Last night I was passing out in front of the TV but I wanted to see Doctor Who so I fought it. (It was, by the way a pretty lame episode. You'd think Sheakspear and witches and discussions of Harry Potter would work better. The ending was funny though and Tennant was fun to watch, Agyeman was still in the process of putting on her Martha Jones pants.) Anyways after that I couldn't get to sleeep even though I was tired as all get out. Finally succumbed at about five, got woken up at 9:40 by a phone call I actually wanted to take. (Doings-a-transpiring and all that.) And now after church and I should have taken a nap but instead made the usual internet rounds, now it's too late. It has made my tongue loose and bought about some interesting moments at church. More interesting things are bound to come as tonight I'm going to meet the fiance of a girl I kinda-sorta seriously dated, and at one time wanted to take the hum-hawing beginning of that term away. The joy.
Oh well, the doctor is still the raddest dude on TV.
Well, him and Adam Baldwin.
~Sheena
If it weren't for pay and benefits, I'd've quit that job a long time ago. (See above for what happened to "pay" last week.) I look forward to retirement, maybe sometime in the next seven years if I can pull it off.
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Anyway, I learned how to sleep standing up when I had mono in Junior High. (I also learned to sleep with my eyes open sitting up, but as soon as I hit REM it really freaked out the teachers so I decided to be more honest about sleeping in class.) Now I sleep standing up as a parlor trick. (You now if anyone actually had a parlor anymore.)
I just did a semesters worth of work in the past three days. Needles to say I say I didn't get much sleep in the past few days. (Had to be at the school by 7:45 AM and I got off work at 1:00 AM the night before.)
I've always had sleep issues. It's actually quite an adventure.
Today was payday again, and, wonder of wonders, I got paid, right off.
KhikiKhalaKado
Just looking for long strange funnysounding words that actually mean something in some language...except for my first post...
In High School, my friends and I would play Scrabble with the rule that any word works if you can create an interesting enough definition.
This is the word we came up with. If you are wondering about the definition of Rhirurierighisinalide, it is the brand name of a medication designed to cure Rhirurierighisinal (a cronic infection of the Rurierighi{ an invisible ventricle of the heart that only 5 people out of a million have that produces rierig, [the ability to summon bread out of thin air]*)
Don't play scrabble with me, I cheat.

~Sheena
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Actually, in the course of searching for spellings of oddball words, I found this site: http://phrontistery.info/ihlstart.html
, which has a lot of neat words.
I think I had too much time in high school and I used think I was busy then.
For some reason, long and strangely-spelled-by-English-language-standards words amuse me. I was going to poke around the Welsh language for a good example when I remembered this one from current events.
My guess is I-yaf-yal-la-yo-cool. Not sure where to put the accent, maybe on the even-numbered syllables?
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I always think it's funny when my husband tells the kids they're going to cath a cold when they go out in Arizona winter weather. I try and tell him that even in the winter it's warm enough to be some people's summer.
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Was there once a thread about linking blogs written by hatrackers together? I can't find it anywhere.
It's in the Next, Please Introduce Yourself area, Unwritten.
I couldn't find whether I complained about that cold on this thread or not...thought I had, but I couldn't find it. Either way, I was down for the count for almost a week and coughed till the end of March...
One cold, in late 1999, played a role in my getting involved in Internet Fan Fiction...I was either in bed or on the couch, flipping through channels, ran across this one particular show...and once I got past a "what's the deal with this guy and his eye?" issue, I decided I liked the show, one thing led to another, and another, and several others, and the next thing I knew I was writing fanfic.
I'm dreading May because each day gets a little closer to summer. We're already hitting the mid ninetys this week. Triple digits won't be far away and then they stay until October and by stay I mean even the very coldest part of the night will still be 105 degrees.
If we have anything cooler in the summer, I wait for the end of "global warming" stories in the news and the return of "new Ice Age" news stories...
It may not be the oldest can in my cabinet, either...I've got some tunafish that predates my grease-pencil-date-writing policy...and I don't remember how old that Jiffy Pop popcorn tin is...
Try to keep up things here while I'm gone, will you?
Randy Beaman Kid, Animaniacs.
I'm been churning through my DVD's and I'm right in the middle of Animaniacs country, it's amazing what they were allowed to get away with.
The first is Heroes was canceled.
The second is Smallville is still on the air, I had no idea, I thought that show died a deserved death years ago.
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How many letters are there in the answer to this question?
This has led to many debates amongst my friends though there is only one right answer. I'll post that answer in a few days.
Feel free to explain your answer if you like.
I love Boggle.
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How many letters are there in the correct answer to this question?
I will also tell you it is based on logic.
And I still don't understand the logic considering there really is no "question". But I'll wait to debate until you post the answer.
I'll post the answer over the weekend. Get your guesses in now.
Edited to add: One of my answers has to be right.
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(As in there are enough letters in the answer.)
I'll let you think about it for a bit and debate before I make an attempt at the explanation.
However, I take issue with the question itself, which isn't really a question. I agree that one can use "four", but I also think one can use any number of answers since the "question" is vague, and can stand for any number of things. I mean, what if "four" isn't the correct answer? What if it was "sixteen", so the answer would be seven. The problem, I think, is that we're never shown the "question".
It's kind of like Bilbo asking, "What's in my pocket?"
So?
The answer simply has to be defined as equivalent to the number of letters it's spelled with. If spanish is allowed, 'cinco' would work also.
as an alternate example consider
"What color is the answer to this question?"
"Black."
The answer refers to it's own color. I could choose to say red in red color and so on.
The basic idea is that the answers holds it's own meta-data.
Another example:
What language is the answer to this question written in?
English.
Espan~ol.
Deutch.
Francais.
All these words carry meta-data about themselves - their language. They are the answer and have the characteristic the answer refers to.
You get the idea...
The question defines what it is asking for within the first three words.
First, it asks, "How many?" That tells you that it is looking for a numerical value, a quantity.
Next, it asks, "How many letters?" That tells you the quantity of what you are looking for.
Then it is a process of elimination to find the numerical value that creates a correct, or true, statement.
billawaboy is right when he says that 'cinco' for 'five' would work if this were in Spanish. Very clever.
I hope this helps.
And I hope you've had fun with this little riddle. Okay, so it might be frustrated fun but hopefully not just frustration. 
You and I and we and them are us, who isn't?
***LOST SPOILER ALERT*** - OF COURSE IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T CARE
In regards to Lost, I enjoyed the reunion, but I was a little disappointed. In some ways I began to want a split reality ending (one happy and one like what actually happened). Not saying that going to wherever they were going wasn't "happy", but it would have been nice if they could have all gotten their "new" lives together and grown old and had (or kept) their children. If dying makes everyone so happy, then why isn't everyone dying to do it? (There's a logic question).
Here's another (Old and Easy): If a vehicle is traveling down a road at 60 mph and is 60 miles away from its destination. How long will it take to get to its destination if it decreases its speed at the same rate as it draws closer to its destination?
(When it is 30 miles away it will be traveling at 30 mph, and likewise when it is 15 miles away it will be traveling at 15 mph).
As to lost, I guess it's finally time for me to hit up my friends to borrow their dvd's. It's a plan I hatched back when they started sacrificing pacing for longevity.
As to the riddle, it's simple, forever. Not literally though, it'll just feel like it when you get down to 1/4th of a mile an hour.
Lost is kind of like the Little Prince in that way, if you just read the surface it's a cute intriguing little story, but that's not the reason it is so many people's favorite book. That reason is what the reader took from it, and the answers the reader makes for themselves. No one questions what a snake really looks like from the inside, and I think fans won't question what the smoke monster actually is or how it was made.
Well, except for grumpy people who just want to be contrary. But there is no pleasing them anyway. Grownups.
~Sheena
Here's a link to a rip'em'up review of the Lost finale on Big Hollywood...
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/aleigh/2010/05/25/no-love-lost/#more-351798
"How many letters are there?" is the actual question.
"in the answer to this question" is a prepositional phrase that refers back to the presumed question.
If "this question" refers to "How many letters are there?" then the answer could be 8 or 9 depending on if the same letter can be counted twice - the answer for the English alphabet is 26 (comprised of 9 letters, including 2 "t's")
If "in" refers to the words "the answer to this question" then the answer is either 12 or 23.
If the question refers to the word "letters" then the answer is 1.
The way I interpret the official answer is that "four" has to be both "this question" and "the answer". But all in all it is only a matter of how you interpret "this question".
You're right that the core question is "How many letters are there?" (If that was all there was to it the answer, depending on the language, is 26.)
Then it is modified by the preposition "In the answer." And then that preposition is modified by its own preposition, "to this question." "To this question," does not modify "How many letters are there."
If we talk through it:
Person 1: "How many letters are there?"
Person 2: "In what?"
Person 1: "In the answer."
Person 2: "The answer to what?"
Person 1: "To this question."
If someone said to you, "I want to shoot at the monkeys in those trees." They'd be saying they want to shoot the monkeys, not that they want to shoot in those trees. That's just where the monkeys are.
If there was an "and" or even a comma in-between "in the answer" and "to this question" I could support your reading, but as is it is clearly asking just about the answer.
Ecks-eye-eye-vee
yep, that fits.
All the other breakdowns are using syntax to explain, not logic.
Technically, since the question is asking for a quantity, a numerical value, there doesn't have to be any letters in it, so zero works just fine. It's like asking, how many feathers are there on your body? Just because the question asks for a certain criteria, doesn't mean the criteria exists.
Can anyone give another explanation? I still don't get it.
Let me try a little more though.
The question asks: How many letters?
You're right when you say it could be answered with a numerical value but there is still only one answer that makes the statement correct. That's why I had the version with the little addendum. Let's check it out.
If you say the answer is 0 - well, regardless of whether you put a numerical '0' or 'zero', there are still four letters in 'zero'. So, if you answer of zero has four letters in it, it cannot be correct for the exact reason that zero has four letters in it. It is like saying 0=4.
Likewise, consider the conversation if you answer three:
A) How many letters are in this answer?
B) Three.
A) No, by your answer, there are five.
There is only one answer where the numerical value and the actual number of letters in the word match, thus making the statement correct, and that is Four
Hope this helps.
Oh well, how about those Bears?
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How many letters are there in the answer to this question?
Regarding diagramming - I am very good at this (I went to high school and college, majoring in English, when this was still being taught).
In questions, the subject and direct object appear to be inverted. "There", a pronoun, is the subject, "are" is the verb, "How" is an adverb modifying the adjective "many", which modifies the DO - "letters". Then we have two prepositional phrases, as you mentioned, that modify the first part of the sentence.
- "in the answer" clearly modifies "letters", specifying where they are located.
- "to this question" does modify "answer", but is less specific. "This" is an adjective either self-referential or referring to another "question". It is a nonspecified modifyer.
Pyre, this is nothing like: "I want to shoot at the monkeys in those trees."
It is more like: "How many monkeys are there to shoot at in this question?"
Are we waiting for another question?
Are we supposed to come up with both question and answer?
Are we referring to the question itself?
This is where interpretation comes into play. To paraphrase a famous quote, it all depends on what the meaning of "this" is.
If, in the first question, the answer is "four", then "this" refers to another question.
It could read like the following:
1 - How many letters are there in the answer to this [certain] question?
- This is asking for a question and answer that are the same, but from a different question. "This question" is: Four? "How many letters in the answer" is: 4.
2 - How many letters are there in the answer to this [same] question?
This can be read a few ways:
- How many letters are there [in the answer to this question]? - (twenty-six/8-9)
- How many "letters" are there [in the answer to this question]? - (1)
- How many letters are there in "the answer to this question"? - (12 or 23)
Now that I have run this debate completely in the ground, how about something completely random:
In 1986, my college biology professor suggested that I might be a mutant due to an abnormality in my blood type. 
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Oh well, how about those Bears?
Don't we pay that hefty Bear Patrol Tax deduction for that?
Anyways on the fun part.
Are we waiting for another question? If we were then there would be no reason answer because the riddle isn't finished. Of course why would Genevive post half a riddle? It's pretty safe to discount this option.
Are we supposed to come up with both question and answer? I'm sorry, I just don't get your logic on this one. If someone says "look at this painting," why would you think they expected you to provide your own painting to look at?
Are we referring to the question itself? It's all we have to go on, so yes.
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2 - How many letters are there in the answer to this [same] question?
This can be read a few ways:
- How many letters are there [in the answer to this question]? - (twenty-six/8-9)
- How many "letters" are there [in the answer to this question]? - (1)
- How many letters are there in "the answer to this question"? - (12 or 23)
What it really is: How many letters are there in the answer to [How many letters are there in the answer to this question]? So the answer has to be a number that is as many letters as it is spelled. So four, in English anyway.
Although I personally prefer 0, because there aren't really letters in numbers. Numbers are characters separate from numbers and the fact that in English we have words that mean them doesn't make the words the numbers. The same way blue means blue but isn't actually the color blue, unless of course you color the letters blue. (Okay now I'm just having too much fun.)
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Happy Memorial Day. Remember the fallen.
Edited to add: Wow, did we really break the random musings? Awesome.
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I love Memorial Day, not just because it's my birthday.
Your birthday is a moveable feast?
I used to work in a dry cleaner, I've ironed more pants than I'd care to think about, with a leaky steam iron. I thought a lot about irony those days.
Last year I had to borrow a suit jacket from my father for a formal occasion---didn't fit but I wore it anyway. I've meant to pick up a suit somewhere but, like so much else, I haven't gotten around to doing it...
If my sinks were just a little deeper, enough to fit my whole head in one, I wouldn't use the shower at all.

I like baconnainse, bacon salt, pancakes cooked in bacon grease, but surprisingly I don't like bacon.
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Bernaise? Baconnaise? Don't get saucy with me...
I have the ability to wrap the fingers on each of my hands around one another so that it looks like each set of fingers is tied into a square knot. On one of my hands I can do this without even using my other hand to manipulate any of the fingers. I learned to do this completely on my own 30 years ago while sitting in my eighth grade science class. People often react in considerable amazement when I demonstrate it.
To do this you must take your ring finger and go over your middle finger and under your index finger, which then holds it in place. Your pinkie finger then goes under the middle finger and over the index finger. Your thumb then goes over the ends of your index and middle fingers to hold them in place. You may have to push down on the knuckle of your pinkie finger and then pull the end of it in order to complete the knot. The completed process should look very much like a square knot if every finger has been properly tightened. However, I would suggest you wait a few minutes after doing this before you try typing again.
We had chickens, usually about 15 to 20 at a time. Enough to keep a steady supply of eggs going. My dad would buy about a hundred new chicks every winter (nothing cuter than chirping yellow chicks). As they grew older, ole dad would break out the hatchet. It still fascinates my daughters on how we would butcher them. We would widdle down the flock, about three times a year, until we got them down to a managable level. Let me tell you, nothing taste better than fresh-farm raised chicken. Yumm. A few facts about chickens.
1) Nothing alive is dumber.
They could be dying of thrist. You fill their water bowl up and they'll set a foot on it and dump it all on the ground before they get a sip. If a fox or other predator gets anywhere near them, they'll squawk their heads off instead of staying silent. Whoever coined the phrase 'bird brain' must of had chickens on their mind.
2) Chickens are a lot braver than you think.
This applies to roosters (hens will defend a nest, but only to a point). I've seen roosters attack dogs. This has more to do with their lack of intelligence, however (see 1). They assume everyone and everything is out to mate with their hens. It gives a whole new meaning to the word...maybe I better not.
3) Chickens are eating machines.
I mean it. They could give a locust a run for their money, and they'll eat (at least try to) everything. They scratch at the dirt to get at the bugs and grubs on the ground. Have a weed problem? Put a fence around it and throw the chickens in. A dozen will strip a 50 foot square area with weeds three feet tall in days. Right down to the dirt. While cleaning the coop (man are they dirty) I uncovered a mouses nest. A dozen pink, blind, babies were devoured in 5 seconds by one chicken.
4) Chickens are cannibals.
The smallest sores will get pecked at. You have to put an anti-biotic that must taste so nasty that even a chicken won't eat it (see 3). They also will have a taste for egg if they ever discover it. This problem is easy to fix. Wooden egg-shapped blocks colored white solves that problem (see 1). We leave the same wood eggs in teh nest all the time and they never seem to catch on.
5) Chickens can fly
Not soar but they can get into a tree, or fly over the six foot fence you constructed. Fixing that problem is surprisingly easy. You trim the feathers on one wing. Makes them off balanced, they can't get two feet off the ground.
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Oh, and we have a hemlock named Socrates on our property, too.
All I do know about 'em comes from (1) reading about 'em, (2) movies and TV, and (3) stray comments like this. Also (4) eating them, but that's not the same thing as learning anything...
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It started when she was three. She figured out how to play Fere Jacques by ear all on her own. In three weeks she had that song figured out plus Jingle Bells and Twinkle Little Star.
Honestly though she may not be a genius, but she's definetly musically gifted.
Today a stranger on the bus told me my baby has "Paul Newman's eyes." He was obviously drunk on mouthwash (the mintiness is a dead giveaway) , but very pleasant nevertheless.
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...Paul Newman's eyes...
I was hoping they'd buried them with him.
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I've always found I can pick up a musical instrument and, with the aid of instructions, (books or personal), play it well enough to convince people I could play it well---if I applied myself. I regret never having ready access to a piano...
Not that I'm complaining...knowing how it's all done adds to my appreciation of music...
He says they have them in a big cage (wire all around, about 8 feet long by 6 feet wide by 4 feet high with doors on top that they can open to reach in and get the eggs and/or the chickens). They can pick it up and move it a few feet every few weeks, and that way the chickens can fertilize a whole field (as well as get the weeds, I guess), and they are almost the same as "free range" chickens because of the frequent ground change for them.
Sounds like a great idea to me, especially if you have enough land to keep them on whichever field is fallow for the season.
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You don't think Paul Newman was a organ donor?
Alastair Cooke donated some of his organs when he died. He was in his nineties...but, I gather, it wasn't exactly a pre-arranged "voluntary" donation...
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
(Laid off of it for a week-and-a-half this month...illness and indigestion, followed by a cutdown on fizzy drinks, followed by buying a case of 7-Up cans. But I'm back on it now.)
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My favorite stimulant is soy sauce. Dark with mushroom. Hmmm.
What kind of mushroom, Pyre Dynasty?
By the way, soy sauce made me think of something (so it isn't entirely random, sorry): I am amazed at what a difference ginger makes in the taste of sushi. Wow!
I love Unagi with a little Wasabi on the rice ball.
There could be just about anything in the preprocessed stuff I get...I look at ingredients occasionally but don't keep anything in mind when shopping...
Now that I think about it, this really explains why my children are so picky.
~Sheena
I make a multinational hot soup, with curry, red pepper, cajun, Tabasco and wasabi when I can get it (and a host of other things.) My niece once stole a sip and she regretted it deeply. She doesn't take food from me anymore, even if I offer it to her, no matter what I say. Of course I have heard horror stories of babies suffocating
Adding a little dill really pulls things together.
Anyways I don't exactly have a recipe for Psycho Ramen, I just open the spice cupboard and toss in anything that looks good at the time. I usually start with a base of Ramen Noddles, but I think any kind of noodle would work. I've only once ran into a spice I didn't like, for some reason Chili Powder goes wrong in a noodle soup. As for other additions, I use whatever I have on hand. bologna works well, as does turkey. (Sometimes I boil a few Hot Dogs in there and serve them in buns.) As for veggies: Peas, Carrots, Onions, Mushrooms, Lentils, green/red/yellow peppers. Once in a great while I toss a can of tomato sauce in there which turns the whole thing on it's head.
My favorite spices: Cumin, Basil, Curry powder, Tony's Creole, dried red pepper, Garlic, Dill, basil, and many others that I can't think of just off the top of my head. I make sure to smell the spices before they go in and keep a sharp nose on the soup-in progress, if things turn bad I can usually save it.
Once in a while I pull off a supernal soup that I'm just geeked out about for days.
(One of my favorite combinations is Curry powder, Tony's Creole, dried red pepper, Garlic, Dill, basil and a chopped onion. It's incredibly acidic so you'll want to brush your teeth right after.)
They were taliking about it as if it were pretty shaky and fairly big. And yes, the number is big. But I think I'm closer to it than they are and it felt just like a long wiggle and roll type. From experience, I knew it was fairly big and distant. It was nice to see I was right.
We seem to be getting some quakes clustered again. We had some significant ones all around Northridge, for a few years and then it got quiet for a long time. Yes, I know they're always happening. I'm talking about the ones that are easily felt. But the last couple of years have seen a re-emergence of relatively minor shakers - in SoCal. Though one relatively minor one 4.? hit a fault line that runs very close to my home. Now that was a shaker.
Been through some moderate earthquakes when I was a kid up north, but nothing down here in Florida. Hurricanes, well, I've been through a lot of them---but you get warnings and time to prepare, at least in this day and age. The Big One in LA will be much more scary than even, say, Hurricane Katrina.
(My late uncle went through the Big One in Oakland / San Fran, y'know, the one that stopped the World Series. I heard (through my parents, who talked with him) that he had just driven his car onto the road and thought he had four flat tires. The rest, as they say, is history.)
...the year the world will end is the same as the last post of this thread...
Wow. They don't call him the damus (at least that's what I think they call him) for nothing.
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I haven't had any caffeine since April 30th.
(My excuse for persistent head nodding is a probable case of sleep apnea.)
I wonder what that was all about.
Last weekend I paid a visit to my good friend and fellow hatracker Todd Rathke (Tiergan). Bright guy. Has a good head on his shoulders. A promising writer. We talked like old friends spending another day together. I am envious of his career nitche set in the quiet countryside of New Hampshire. Hope I can pay him another visit in the near future.
Todd makes the third hatracker I met and 4th writer friend. Scott Dantzer (BentTree) and Donavan Darius (Dark Warrior) were the other two. My job grants me the rare opportunity to be able to see the faces to the odd names on hatrack. I can't wait to meet more.
20 points for anyone who guesses the reference. (It's a song I've had in my head for days now.)
Also there's an impending thunderstom, and the power has been flickering on and off---I'm glad I discovered backup battery power---but I'd better conclude, go take my temperature, and then get some rest...
I wonder if there is a formula for that....
Which begs the question...what is Sheena's nose doing so close to her hamsters feet anyway?
Speaking of which, whatever happened with the movie quote thread?
One: I like to give my critters a lot of freedom and I think if I had something as large as a rat I would be wanting to give it free run of the apartment, at least when I was home. But with a roommate and lots of electronics wires to get chewed, that's not a good option. My mice not only have a cage with a bunch of tubing to crawl around in, I've also built a plexi-glass playground in front of their cage - the two take up the width of the coffee table. And I have a portcullis in the playground wall so they can run all over the coffee table when I'm around. They also get to play on the couch or my computer desk when I'm there. So to me, rats would need even more space. (Please note: the plexiglass playground is not that extraordinary when you consider that I work in a frame shop and have access to all that stuff and the tools. I'm not totally mouse-crazy.)
Two: I like to travel and I try to take a big trip every 2-3 years. I've chosen not to get long-lived animals because I don't want to abandon them to others' care for six to eight weeks at a time. I actually chose mice so that I could have several at a time (females) for the duration between trips.
Come to think of that, strictly speaking, I never had a pet of my own...all the cats and dogs in my family belonged to the family. Though I was responsible for acquiring some of the cats, they were all collectively ours. Since I've been living in my own place, I haven't had a pet live with me for any length of time.
I can't even write that one up and send it out as a fanfic---they kinda made a videogame of the concept, something I didn't remember until I woke up. It's been done. Ah, well...maybe I'll reload the thing on my computer and give it another spin. (I can see the box it came in from here---now what in Hell did I do with the disk?)
This morning, though, the disk holder ejected without any problems. Go figure.
John Williams (the composer of themes for Star Wars, E.T., Superman, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, etc.) also wrote the theme to Meet the Press (and apparently NBC Nightly News).
I haven't been so surprised since learning that Paul Shaffer, from David Letterman fame, wrote "It's Raining Men" and that he is heterosexual.
I've stopped at Level 7 (seventh page) just to catch my breath! I just noticed it today and thought, oh, I could read it all in one sitting. NOT! I'll have to come back tomorrow after I feed my pet shark.
So why is a raven like a writing desk?
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Anyways, have any of you had nightmares about something you wrote. Last week I wrote a ten page paper applying the ideas of Taoism to Franz Kafka's The Trial, it's been driving me nuts.
There is, or used to be, an online game where the contestants added up how much money the Nigerian banking scam offered them. A couple of them had totals in the billions. (Someone I knew in my Internet Fan Fiction days was, I think, fourth or fifth on the list in those days---that's how I heard about it.)
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I used to have a dream where my book would be published in paperback---and I'd take a bite out of it. I haven't had that dream in a while, though.
Psychologically, I think it meant that books, buying and reading, were, in those days, nearly as important as eating to me. I suppose I grew out of it, probably when I had to buy and / or cook my own food.
Sometimes it would be a manuscript I'd eat. Same thing, I guess.
Well, they did it again!
(More as this develops.)
"...by growing our oranges with solar power..."
Does anyone else find this comment strange?
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Tomorrow is my daughter's birthday.
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Congratulations to satate and her daughter.
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I got paid today---but the whole thing seriously inconvenienced me. There's a grievance procedure for things like this, but it doesn't stop management from doing what they want to do.
It is "GoD And DoG" or "DoG and GoD" (or something like that...)
Lis
It's the end of an era, really. I've been home with my son every single day of his life. I've seen every art project, heard him read his first words, made almost every meal, and seen every pirate/ninja/spy/store clerk he's come up with. Now I have to share him.
Boo for that.
But yay for the quiet writing time.
~Sheena
Despite repeated calls for a custodian "with a mop" over the intercom / loudspeakers, I don't know if any custodian-with-a-mop ever came...
Writing? Nah...not yet...
"No matter what the rational part of my head thinks, when I see
someone hurt a woman my inner gigantopithicus wants to reach for the nearest bone and go Kubrickian on someones head." Harry Dresden, "Blood Rites" - Jim Butcher '04 ROC.
Just thought I'd share...
Last night I dreamed I was on the other side of the Grand Canyon. (I'm not sure why I thought it was the other side.) And I saw this condor snatch a raccoon out of a little tree and then it flew over to me, I was hiding under a mattress so it didn't see me. The raccoon was screaming and crying till the condor said, "don't worry it's going to be fine," and started tickling it. Then the condor chopped it up and ate it on a bed of rice.
Now where did I put my Mid-Summer Night's Dream Cream?
Now where did I put those fish?
Had 'em baked last night, by the way. Salt and butter. Yum!
I like my tomatos raw, not cooked, unless they're part of a sauce, like spaghetti sauce or pizza sauce.
Yes there is a song. Off the top of my head I think it's a broadway song.
'When empty, please dispose of me properly.'
I made a bumper sticker that says, 'Not responsible for accidents.'
Fifteen-some years of readings on my indoor-outdoor thermometer yield that it's never been hotter than ninety-nine-point-zero Fahrenheit...it's never been lower than thirty-one-point-eight, though...
They don't call me the greatest for nothing, I actually have to pay them quite a bit of money.
Then again, I'll only be gone from weekend to weekend, so I'll have time on my hands when I get back---maybe more writing.
What is it about cartoons and animation that made them kid-stuff in the first place? (When I was a kid, I believe the cartoons we saw on tv were actually "short subjects" that had all kinds of allusions to and depictions of actors and actresses and movies for adults, and I also believe they were produced to be shown in the movie theaters before they ever made it to tv.)
So when and why did animation, for so very long, become associated with "for kids"? Was it production costs (no paying expensive actors) or simplified images or what?
Any ideas, anyone?
I'm not sure why people came to think of animation as just for "kids." There is some really brilliant things being done with it these days. (Although it's hard to find in all the Anime and honest to goodness baby stuff.) Of course there is alot of good anime and Gaijin Anime too.
My Shortlist of stuff running right now: WordGirl, Spliced, Jacob Two-Two, Martha Speaks, and one other that I can picture in my head but can't remember the title.
Some of what I perceive as "decline" could be attributed to CGI and such---Pixar's pulling it off but it's a lazy way out for the guys who put on half-hour TV cartoons.
It's odd to discuss "realism" in connection with cartoons, but, as far as the cartoons go, they often don't have it. Something like, oh, that "Fairy Godparents" thing usually on Nickelodeon. (Is that the name? I forget. Or is it on the Cartoon Network? I forget, too.) (I'll pick on it 'cause it seems kind of the start of the problem.) The kids in it don't talk like kids, don't act like kids, and don't relate to each other or to their parents or anyone else like kids. Same for any of the other characters---they just don't come across as what they're supposed to be, but parodies of what they're supposed to be.
Something about that sort of posture, on the part of the creators, in the ongoing creation of a cartoon show, just rubs me the wrong way. I'm not really looking for satiric masterpieces when I look at, well, anything---but cartoons in particular.
Having said that, I do like cartoons that are smart. Animaniacs and Jacob Two-Two certainly fit that category.
Spliced is probably one of those "humor is the point" things. There isn't much of a plot (and they usually follow the two segments in a half-hour episode model) but it's all about the characters. Qubo shows it a 2 in the morning because some people really don't think it fits with the Qubo ideal. Which it doesn't, all the characters in it are basically trying not to get smashed or eaten by the other freaks while trying to have fun. It also comes with things like, "the moral of the story is don't shove antelopes up your nose because they have pointy horns which will poke your brain." It's been described as the Island of Dr. Moreau for kids.
I haven't done more than glance at Qubo, but the stuff on it does seem to be pitched to a younger age group than, say, the stuff on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network or Disney. The "one-digit age-group" stuff on most of the channels generally turns me off.
Of course there's Adult Swim...but most of that has turned me off, too, and the only things I look into on that come from outside, like cast-off network rejects or Japanimation.
By the way, has anybody besides me noticed that Nickelodeon and Disney have largely abandoned their half-hour cartoon shows? And even Cartoon Network is starting to run live-action stuff? What gives?
Keep up the good work here.
AND I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR MY TONE TONIGHT!!!!
You've gotta watch this first one, um, first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpx8O82KLM
And now this one will make more sense. Thank Gods for Auto-Tune, quite possibly the jelly to Youtube's peanut butter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIs7OY4anao&feature=related
Oh yeah, happy belated Thanksgiving Canadians. Happy belated Columbus Day Americans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHNA_j7h5A
Okay?
Thanks.
(Resisting the urge to post a link to Swiper the Fox)
I'd bet that "volunteers" are sometimes easier to fire because they aren't getting paid (and therefore won't be losing income), so the people who "fire" them don't think they have to feel as guilty about it.
And I think next time I'll leave my typewriter behind...it just takes up space, and I never use the damned thing while away...
By the way who unlocked the door for you?
A lot of our newer custodians are former postal clerks...it's a combination of the practice of excessing employees, and the desire of not wanting to relocate to Orlando from southwest Florida...meanwhile, we're short-handed and they're not done excessing...
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LD, there's this magical thing called a doorknob that when turned allows access through the portal. If my freedom was dependent on a government issued doorstop I don't think I'd last very long in this job.
Etherion: Delighted Delinquent Dogs do diabolical doings during delicious dairy dish downing, Devious Daughter's decision, dinner destroyed.
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LD, there's this magical thing called a doorknob that when turned allows access through the portal. If my freedom was dependent on a government issued doorstop I don't think I'd last very long in this job.
Indeed, except you said it was a locked closet.
I could post something from an older stories. I haven't done any short stories for a while, but I have my time back now so maybe I will again soon. Still have lots of ideas.
Pyre Dynasty, I believe LDWriter2 just wanted clarification on how the marks could have been made on the newly waxed floor of a locked closet. You know, as in "locked room mystery" perhaps?
I'm glad the silly season is almost over. Tues., the second.
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Paid for by the Committee to Elect Corky and to Promote Religious Fear.
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If you voted early, you can ignore the silly season.
No, you can't. It's on TV, the radio, in the mail, on your answering machine. On the local News. Even in my local area there is talk of voter fraud, pressuring the county clerk to do early voting and really off the wall ads for a country commissioner. That's never happened with a CC before.
From one silly season to another so quick.
And to respond to another note. I don't believe there's a good reason for early voting.
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Boo!
There's that too. 
I like to see various costumes, some can be very well done.
The thing is, part of the plot involved cocaine smuggling. What startled me was the amount of cocaine. They were making a big deal about these distributors who were hauling it around in these eensey-weensey itty-bitty packets...and when you're used to seeing the cops of here-and-now stop guys who are hauling it around in ginormous bales, it sees much ado about nearly nothing...
I tried to vote for Corky but I might have accidentally poked the wrong hole, and I didn't push hard enough. So if you find a hanging or dimpled chad for the other guy remember to count it for Corky.
But now we might be switching to those non-holy (As in not God like) ____ awful electronic machines.
They were used in one day of early voting, but Tues we are supposedly using the normal ballets. However, that could mean next year they switch over.
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Not even in Grist for the Mill, please?
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Unless you nominate someone like Robert Nowall, or maybe Corky--in other words, a Hatrack participant.
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I also have a calc II test on Friday over power series representations... I might have to retake calc II. I am not a happy camper right now.
Of course, I could just move to the mountains and forget about school and society and technology and then I'd be a happy camper. Or maybe not, I like electricity and hot water. I guess I just can't be happy anywhere.
In my class I've been dependent on a game of email tag to get a project done. I lost, it's gonna take special dispensation for me to pull this thing off.
Old enough and born in the US and all that.
That reminds me do you know that Bob Hope ran? For as long as his TV special lasted many years ago. But he had to stop because a school pupil reminded him that he was born in England.
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Hey, I know places where you can argue whether or not a certain Presidential somebody was or was not born within the United States, and therefore is or is not eligible to be President.
I know, but those people may have gotten the idea years ago from the Bob Hope run.
Humph, don't blame me that Mr. Hope started this 20 plus ears ago. Come to think of it may have been in the Seventies when he was doing a lot of TV specials. He probably thought if an actor could run a comedian could run...for an hour anyway. As I just recalled he almost got Sammy Davis Jr. to run as Vice President.
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Ah, comic strips...two of my favorites came to the bitter end last month. First "Cathy," with great fanfare and publicity...then "Cleats," with barely a whimper---I mean, I didn't even hear it was ending until the last week...
The part I missed is where she married her original boyfriend. But I'm glad the way she ended it even though she could have gone all the way through the nine months.
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But, on the other had, who wants to see that in a comic strip? Too graphic for my tastes...
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But this has nothing whatsoever to do with monkeys.
It doesn't?!?!
Oops, I thought it did-(scratching hairy head).
There's a line in a song about vegans BBQing hamsters.
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Is a hamster killer someone who kills hamsters, or is a hamster killer, a hamster that kills?
Or both?
Partial lobotomies do work as he was one of the gentlest (and dullest) people I've known.
That's all true, by the way. My stepmother recounted this stuff to me later.
The first wasn't may fault but the second was. My mom said I could never have another hamster after the second.
I have also killed several fish.
This is probably why most of the writers I really really like are really really dead...
(Don't mention it to those Elvis worshippers---no sense of humor.)
I still feel bad about the hamsters. I only wanted them to be able to feel the sun and not be so chilly.
Then to bed, late, only to start all over again five hours later.
Lost my job recently, only to have my employer lie to UI about why. Thanks to new laws in NJ, I was denied benefits for two months, which means I missed all those nice sales that I usually use to buy gifts for everyone. At least Chanukah candles still retail for a buck and change. Which, of course, prompts the question, who knowingly picks a seemingly unwinnable legal battle with a Jew? Especially when I mention in court that they once refused to let me have off for one of our infamous 25 hour "no food, no water" fasts.
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...who knowingly picks a seemingly unwinnable legal battle with a Jew?
Pontius Pilate?
I can't recall anyone who did it, but they may not have been either particularly faithful to the religion, or perhaps a different branch of it.
For instance, baseball player Sandy Koufax once famously refused to play a World Series game during the fast of Yom Kippur. Convert Sammy Davis Jr. once refused to film while fasting.
During major fasts (and admittedly, Tisha B'Av isn't a very popular holiday, but Yom Kippur is widely, widely practiced, even among relatively secular Jews), we don't eat or drink anything, unless medically obliged to, engage in sexual intercourse, bathe beyond ritual washing up to the knuckles, or wear leather shoes. Also, because Tisha B'Av is considered a day of mourning, we don't greet anyone.
Tisha B'Av occurs during the dog days of summer, either July or August depending on how the Hebrew calendar falls, so working (as I was expected, in a kitchen with three ovens of all places) isn't merely a spiritual violation, it's a dehydration hazard as well.
I worked for most of my shift, until I felt too uncomfortable, then left. When the manager on duty objected, I told them there wasn't much they could do about it without getting sued.
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I do remember reading once, that an actor who was the first "team leader" on the 1960s series Mission: Impossible, the guy there the first year before Peter Graves...did practice his faith and not work on these holidays---which was one reason why, after one year, they dropped his contract and hired Graves.
There are occasions where practicing one's job and practicing one's religion will lead to aggravation and conflict with others...and there are occasions where this will lead to someone else disposing of the aggravation and conflict by disposing of the original someone. One must be honest and forthright with those others about this matter from the beginning...and be prepared for hard decisions about what's important, and to be prepared to bear up under the consequences...
(I have to note that I am not a lawyer and am not trying to sound like a lawyer even thought it may appear like I am writing as a lawyer. I am simply a person who knows lawyers and people who have been involved with legal proceedings (some of which turned into real charlie foxtrots).)
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The trouble with bringing up past grievances (like the time they didn't let you off for that holiday) is they have an expiration date.
True's true. It's important to strike while the iron is hot. Remember my abovementioned "exhausting Friday?" I filed two grievances about what went on. Not much hope for them, but it's important to start a paper trail...
I'm happy that (1) my car was already inside, and not halfway in---the door is heavy, and it came down hard, and (2) it happened with me and not one of my relatives who also have access and door openers. (Also (3) that nobody, particularly me, got hurt.)
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I'm not arguing that religion is for everyone, but who is teaching these children to care more about celebrities in rehab or sparkling vampires, then the soldiers(or religious icons) who gave their lives for them?
Apathetic, ungrateful, uneducated... Yay for the future.
However, there are still others who go to bed at night with a flashlight so they can escape into books, teens who volunteer, or enlist, and little kids who can be still be taught to be better.
Here's hoping that is what spreads, not more apathy.
~Sheena
But I think you have a point about the youth. I've seen or heard similar things about the youth of today. I think certain Boomers forgot to teach their offspring some of the things they were taught as children but at the same time this isn't true of every younger person.
There are young men and women who know what Personal sacrifice, dedication and self control mean. While a good many aren't, some are even polite.
I should have added as you seem to know.
And "sparkling vampires" ???
That's a term I need to remember.
Well, as for the younger generations not knowing anything about anything...I once got into conversation with some of my younger relations and it came out they had no idea who Paul Revere was. You've heard of him, haven't you?
The Boomers barely know anything themselves. For instance, they remember how painful getting shots for disease immunization was...but they have no memory of what it was like to get the disease...so when it came time for their children to be immunized, substantial numbers of them skipped the whole thing...which is why some of these diseases have made a comeback in recent years.
Sorry--- just kidding. But it is reported that some High School grads thought we fought the English during the second Great War.
I don't know if they were just not paying attention or if it was because they weren't taught it but I heard of both Paul Revere and WW II so many times I would have absorbed knowledge of both events even if I hadn't paid attention.
But I'm still not sure where Sparklingly Vampires come from

Edited to add: BTW, "sparkle", as used in this context, means glimmer, not lighting up with tiny sparks of fire. I just realized this might need clarification.
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Well at least you remembered Paul Revere of the famous Midnight Ride and not Paul Revere the mid-1960s rock star...
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So, instead, here's the beginning:
Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five;
Hardly a man is now alive
Who remembers that famous day and year.
He said to his friend, "If the British march
By land or sea from the town to-night,
Hang a lantern aloft in the belfry arch
Of the North Church tower as a signal light,--
One if by land, and two if by sea;
And I on the opposite shore will be,
Ready to ride and spread the alarm
Through every Middlesex village and farm,
For the country folk to be up and to arm."
And the end:
You know the rest. In the books you have read
How the British Regulars fired and fled,---
How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
From behind each fence and farmyard wall,
Chasing the redcoats down the lane,
Then crossing the fields to emerge again
Under the trees at the turn of the road,
And only pausing to fire and load.
So through the night rode Paul Revere;=
And so through the night went his cry of alarm
To every Middlesex village and farm,---
A cry of defiance, and not of fear,
A voice in the darkness, a knock at the door,
And a word that shall echo for evermore!
For, borne on the night-wind of the Past,
Through all our history, to the last,
In the hour of darkness and peril and need,
The people will waken and listen to hear
The hurrying hoof-beats of that steed,
And the midnight message of Paul Revere.
...which is still too long. Damn.
Now I've gotta work the pecularities of this monitor. It's widescreen...the picture shimmers a little...and I've done nothing more than plug it in and come online. Tomorrow, when I have a little time, I'll see what can be done.
Except for the shimmer, I think it's just a matter of getting used to things.
You might be losing the light on your monitor, my sister's went out and it was creepy how you could see everything but not really. Like a ghost monitor.
I'm quite depressed today because one of my favorite buildings in the world is on fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs&feature=player_embedded
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I guess it's not going to be too long before we can teleport, too.
Warp drive, on the other hand...
Every now and then a certain forum I am on used to shimmer when I called up the reply page. That is the letters shimmered. It almost gave me a headache trying to read the sentences I had just typed. I believe they did something to improve the site and it hasn't done it since. But probably that as a completely different problem than yours.
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One problem with dealing with it is that I haven't had time to deal with it...Christmas, you know, on top of the usual stuff. Yesterday was presents-wrapping day.
Merry Christmas to you all.
And if you're one of the few people who do not celebrate some version of it...have a nice day off.
150 years ago today: South Carolina secedes in response to Lincoln's election as president, beginning the collapse that would lead to the US Civil War. Exactly four years later, Savannah, Georgia is evacuated in response to Sherman's March to the Sea. "War is Hell."
Every year that I've driven to work before Christmas I've had car trouble, the problems have ranged from a simple dead battery, flat tire, falling off alternator, side-swiping a car carrier, but this year took the cake, snapped off my timing belt. In an instant what had been a fine vehicle became an oversized paperweight, now I have to find a new car.
Edited to add: I have to find this car fast, begging for a ride home at 1 o'clock in the morning is putting me in serious favor debt.
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You have to get another car because the timing belt snapped? What did it do take out the whole pulley assembly?
It's possible that it may be more cost effective to get another car as opposed to replacing an engine on this one that's given so many problems to Pyre.
That's tough but maybe next time, whenever that is, you can get one with better gas milage. That's what happened to us, went from an almost huge Chevy station wagon to an almost tiny Dodge. It didn't last as long as Dodges were suppose to back then.
(But then I have the worry of what brand and make and model to buy---they don't make Chevy Cavaliers anymore, and the replacement model wasn't quite right even before GM became Government motors.)
((Of course, I've got other things to spend on. I've got to pay my Christmas bills, pay my local property taxes, and sometime before spring get a new lawnmower...if the rumored new John Deere place opens up closer by than the old John Deere place.))
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By the way, I think I cleared up my monitor problem. I realized the video for my computer itself was on a different setting than the monitor, so I changed it to that, then did the "auto reset" thing with the monitor again. Some of the icons on my, er, opening screen still blurred and shimmered at first, but, here online, I haven't had it happen once. More as it develops.
However, I have had old cars that have self-destructed and weren't worth fixing. Helps if you have time for research.
I will say that after my most recent repair, which was just a few days ago, I asked my mechanic what the best cars are today. Mind you, I've known him since I was ten and he's a very honest guy who has kept all of my old cars running. And he said that 'Honda and Toyota were still the best, but the American cars were catching up. But no matter how sweet it looks, he wouldn't touch a Dodge with a ten foot pole.'
Oh and by the way, to those who celebrate, Bingle Jells and Cherry Mistmas!!
Gas mileage is an important factor...but so is the head room and having a pretty good radio / media player. I look forward to having something to connect an iPod to in my next car.
Head room? Well, after an accident that totaled one car, there was a big outward dent in the roof precisely where my head would have made one if it had gone up and hit the roof---but I wasn't injured, didn't black out, and don't remember actually banging my head.
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Merry Christmas to anyone who's having a Christmas, and Deck Us All With Boston Charlie...
I got a fantacular deal on a used Hundai Sonata. I'll have to think about its superhero name.

especially if the car tells you its name.
But I have thought about having one of my various characters name their car. Of course come to think of it, she is the only one character whose car I describe. In none of the other projects do I even say what type of car or what color it is. Looks like something to work on in the revising process.
My last one was called the Maroon Maroon, because it did all sorts of funny stuff. (Like randomly run the windshield wipers.)
Still haven't figured out this cars name.
Honda Accord 278,000 miles! 32 MPG all day long!
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That was a pick-up not a car.

A few years ago a few people around here did that type of thing. Some blocked out all the letters except for TOY. That was usually done with pick-ups. I can't recall any other words formed but there were a couple.
Messy lawsuit followed.
http://www.roadsquadron.com/Cars/Hwing/
Yes, he actually drives it around Los Angeles!
I thought so when I saw those lasers, a X-wing fighter but in this case what a Null wing fighter?
But he doesn't dress right.
But a huge amount of years ago there was a group of Star Trek fans that drove around a major US city in a Metro van disguised as the Enterprise. Complete with a Captain's chair. They wore costumes and had phasers disguised as laser sights.
And even though I don't think it's online anymore, three or more years ago I found a pic of a motorcycle shaped like the Enterprise. The saucer section stuck out above the front tire.
I used to work with a guy (now deceased, alas), who dressed as a Klingon for Halloween every year...but also always wore a Kirk-and-Spock-period red shirt uniform. Never had the heart to tell him Klingons didn't serve in Starfleet then...
Was he dressed as the big-forehead klingons or the weird eye-brow ones? It could be he was a time traveler trying to fit in? Or perhaps he did the tried and true "knock out the guard and take his clothes" thing.
As for my car I think it may just live up to the title "Flaming Sword" which is a particularly important piece of hardware in a story I wrote in highschool. (And I'm going to rewrite it one day.)
I believe in telling the world I'm crazy right up front. It clears up misunderstandings in advance.
I've been thinking about where to put this and it hit me here...duh.
One another thread we talked about a back story for the Treehouse. And I added that there is a Bar Spyder Roberson (I think) wrote about but my local Barnes and Noble has all kinds of interesting characters in it. Today I saw Willow, from Buffy. I've seen her before, she works there. She lost some weight maybe grew an inch or three but still basically the same. And at the Starbucks in the store I was waited upon by a Vampire. No fangs, yes he smiled real bit showing me all his teeth, but that is easily taken care of. Good thing its cloudy and rainy here.
In previous visits I've seen Patricia Briggs shapechanger heroine and an elf. Actually could have been a Vulcan.
This has been going on for around five years. The first one has a great shot of Voyager flying through a lightning storm right above an ocean. Besides the fact that there's a reason I have something for Voyager, I have a scene just like it in my first novel. Of course it's not Voyager or any other Star Trek ship but still it's amazing how similar the two scenes are.
There's even a book out with, I think, the first three years of pics and a half page story that goes with each pic. I would have loved to do those half page descriptions.
So now to what I want to say, I wish they would have a calendar like that for SF over all. I would love one with a month with David Weber's Honer Harrington ships. Of course all the ships look pretty much the same in that universe. But there could be one from David Drake's Lt. Leary series, maybe from R.M. Meluch's Merrimack series. I'm sure they could find another nine.
There's the Sub turned starship that is part of a series by John Ringo and another guy, I forget his name and I don't have my books handy. A scene of it breaking the service of the ocean on its way up would look neat, especially with that horn like thing sticking out of its nose. There's a full explanation of what it is in one of the books. But it's full if tiny holes and the way the holes break up the water somehow allows the sub to slip faster through the ocean. Unless all of that is just techno- babble. For me it's hard to tell if all the scientific stuff is real, tecno-babble or as I think both.
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Another idea from that calendar. January's pic is of a starship with two circles around the aft end. They are proton excelleraters, using a different method of create a wrap bubble. But my idea is that instead of an Excellerater being built underground build one around a spaceship for power. Hmmm, all kinds of possibilities there.

I had to look it up this time.
(This is one of those things where spell checking works in your favor.)
but I'm amazed at how hyper the Democrats and some media people are getting at the idea of having the Constitution read. Some are totally freaking out, it's well amazing. They even made up a new catch phrase for the occasion. Those using the phrase must not have been paying much attention to those who talk have been talking about the Constitution, at the same time it sounds like some of have forgotten we are a Constitutional Republic.
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Oops, I was in a hurry. I did that during lunch at work. I thought I would be in and out but it didn't work out that way.
At the beginning I should have added On the House Floor the new Republicans want to read the Constitution. I hope the rest now makes sense.
Look: A six year-old can read the Constitution, but I'd be more impressed if that same six year-old can actually explain what he just read.
The GOP leadership may have done it for PR stunt but most of the newly elected representatives more than likely did it to send a message that they really were going to follow it.
But no matter the reason why I see no harm in reading it. And positively no reason to freak out over it. You may have heard about Walmart giving 1,600,000 dollars to seven cities to help fight hunger. We are getting 100,000 of that here. I don't care if it is a new way for Walmart to advertise or not, it is money freely given and it will help many people. The constitution is a document that needs to be read every so often and as I said it did no harm to read it.
As to understanding it. Most of it isn't that hard, it was written to be easily understood and for the areas that aren't, we have the Founder's writings to help us understand it.
And It has been years since I read much of it...I have read certain parts like the Bill of Rights fairly recently. I tried to download it way back but for some reason only got half of it. I didn't discover that for a while. Yes, I need to try again.
But here's a good point by point of the "controversy":
Jay Sekalow(Not sure about that spelling but it's close) had a good debate on the reading of the Constitution. I forgot the name of the woman he debated but I have heard her before...she didn't do that good a job this time. She did bring up that they didn't read the whole thing but I was distracted at work so missed what Jay said in response. But other then that her part of it was weak and it sounded like she was stretching for an argument. She mentioned the cost of the reading but I didn't catch any explanation of where she got that figure which Jay said was way too much.
It's interesting when people say something is in the constitution when it isn't. Certainly some of those things would fit there, and are in the same spirit as some other things written there, and could be written into law without running afoul of it, but it isn't actually there.
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It's interesting when people say something is in the constitution when it isn't.
Like what?
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"Separation of church and state" isn't in the constitution, but everyone seems to think that it is.
O'Donnell, however you spell her name, got into trouble for stating that truth doing a debate. Of course I think part of that was her delivery, she seemed to be trying to be humorous about it when she should have made a strong, definite statement.
I think you can add the right to privacy to that and what the Obama Administration is trying to pull with the Health care law...wanting us all to buy health insurance.
That "separation of church and state" comes from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. He refers to a "wall of separation between church and state" as what the First Amendment means.
It should be noted the Jefferson did not participate in the writing of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, and was not even present at the Constitutional Convention.
Here's a link, http://civilliberty.about.com/od/religiousliberty/a/danburybaptists.htm , though a simple search could probably turn up dozens of sites that post the text of Jefferson's letter.
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That "separation of church and state" comes from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. He refers to a "wall of separation between church and state" as what the First Amendment means.
We know that, but was the wall to protect the church from the state, as some people think, or to protect the state from the church as others think.
I think by many of their speeches during that time--Washington's speech on the first Thanksgiving as one example--that contained so many references to God and even scripture quotes. Not to mention the Congress meeting in a building a church also used. They didn't worry about violating separation of church and state as much as many do today. If they worried about it at all.
Maybe we could talk about the latest attempt to censor Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn---I'd be delighted to, but only if I could use the words in question.
Robert Kathleen can respond to your question but I say I thought it was only one word, is there another one that is being missed in the discussion of the first word?
And I don't think I would need to use said word to say I don't think it needs to be censored. It's not the only work with objectionable words and even though some have been censored before I'd rather leave it as is. It's one of those slippery slopes.
But it can used as a discussion of that day and of writing. Stephen King says in his book on writing that we should allow our characters to use the terms they would use in real life. There have been times while reading that I wished the writer had censored their characters but usually I have to admit those words fit and in some cases it would be funny and/or off if they didn't say such words.
I have problems with my characters saying something worse than damn so I kinda cheat a little and not allow them to say the whole word. So far none would have said that word up above and I'm not sure if any ever will...it's a word that doesn't come to mind while writing or any other time for that matter. But it is conceivable that someday somewhere somehow a character will want to use it, I will have to decide then how to deal with it but I think Twian's character would have used it back then.
And O'Donnell wasn't stating a truth so much as not understanding what the phrase meant and how the 1st Amendment related to it. If you watch the video of that debate (held at a law school) you can tell she's floundering, not fully realizing what Coons was telling her.
And I think it's stupid and unnecessary to censor Twain's work.
The article I read about this quoted Twain as having said, "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is a big deal." Those of you who know the way that quote actually goes understands how they have castrated that quote. I've used this argument so many times but it's a favorite of mine: When grandma dies do we cut her out of the family pictures? It's a part of history, and if we wrote a story set during that time we would be totally justified in using that word. Any other word would be out of place.
They claim they are doing it for accessibility, because they say there are some people who won't read a book with that word in it. Poppycock in my opinion.
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is protect a person from themselves. No matter how much you scream at them they still decide to walk out on the slick surface.
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Separation of church and state is not in the Constitution, but the intent/spirit is there in the 1st Amendment. The Supreme Court has upheld Jefferson's specific words in many a case.
And O'Donnell wasn't stating a truth so much as not understanding what the phrase meant and how the 1st Amendment related to it.
She understood better than liberals want to give her credit for. This whole thing with the letter was started by one specific judge, not that long ago compared to the age of the US, who didn't like religion. We have to live with his finding a hidden meaning in the words but one can see by the way the Founders acted and their speeches they never intended for it to go that far. There is no wall in the Constitution.
And on the Twain censorship subject, so far as I know, the word in question is not banned on this forum. This gets back to the general question of censoring our characters, and that is an Open Discussion on Writing topic, right?
I would have said Eagles not Cowboys.
That's because I love the birds, get an Eagle calendar every year. Just something about an eagle soaring that is...well something. 
Not sure how the team is doing seems to be not so bad so far.
And I have no idea if the band is still together. They did have some good songs but not enough for me to become a fan.
But those bird....
And Kathleen I say close? I think we tripped over the edge already but than again there was no mention of political parties even though I brought up the term liberal. So Okay no more.
Even though there is my blog, I may get around to writing something further on that subject sometime.
Is it okay to say that?
On birds, the Seahawks beat the Saints tonight, it was the first time a team with a losing record has ever won a playoff game. (Gotta love the wildcard.)
(I kinda made reference to this matter when we were doing the Movie Quotes thread last year...thought it would've provoked some kind of reaction...)
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They tell me the Jets won. I always think of them as the "Anarchists," from an obscure joke from a 1970s sitcom. ("There they are, the anarchists!...you know what anarchy is, don't you?" "Sure. Everybody doing whatever they want. Like the Jets.")
I was literally dragged into Personnel to explain my actions. It was very strange. I do have some Black ancestry and I have Black in-laws, but I don't have the look. I could almost imagine a guillotine in the room. Very strange how fearful people have become about upsetting other races even if none were involved.
And, just to point out my workplace faux pas, I was telling a friend of mine how my Black cousin talked when he is with friends. He's very funny, btw.
Anyway your story also reminds me of a Dr. Williams. Should remember his first name..heard it enough times...but he's a Economics Prof who has written books on economics-very good reading if you like that type of thing. But now he has written a book about himself. He grew up in projects, was cab driver in major city and joined the army and sent to Korea. he put down he was Caucasian even though no one could mistake that he is black. His CO told him he had to change it but it ended up sticking.
Not so PC back in those days.
I remember a Guest of Honor speech by Jane Yolen, at a convention I attended, in which she talked about how political correctness can be as much a way of censoring people as book burning.
I also remember when the big switch happened: from hearing people use words like the one in question with impunity in one year, and then hearing people being accused of being "prejudiced" (which then became THE THING NOT TO BE) the next year.
Instead, I'll tell a joke.
One day the bus driver had just had it. "There's been too much argument. I'm tired of telling people to move to the back of the bus just because of the color of their skin. From now on, everybody's just green. Got it?"
After some mutterings of general agreement, the bus driver said, "Right. Now if the dark green people will move to the back of the bus..."
Yes indeed he is interesting.
As his web site, which maybe I shouldn't mention here since it would be close political and I've been doing too much of that lately.
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One day the bus driver had just had it. "There's been too much argument. I'm tired of telling people to move to the back of the bus just because of the color of their skin. From now on, everybody's just green. Got it?"After some mutterings of general agreement, the bus driver said, "Right. Now if the dark green people will move to the back of the bus..."
There's an old novel where that happens. I mean everyone turning green, and the writer gets a bit into the darker green aspects.
When I got the book-paperback-, from an used book store or from my dad, it was old. So it might have been written in the 50s. I can't recall the writer but I think he was famous, someone I knew of.
Now where will I get my book fix? There's another one, but it's twice as far away...the local Barnes & Noble doesn't have the same stuff...everything else is even farther away...and ordering online just isn't the same thing as browsing.
I ask because not that long ago it was stated that finally we are suppose to get one of those sometime. But so far no other news on that front, with Borders probably going into bankruptcy it would seem now would be a good time for them to move here. if they are still viable.
Like I said, there's another Books-a-Million, but it's twice the distance. This one, the one that's closing, is at Page Field Commons on US 41---the other one is on Colonial on the other side of I-75. Certainly that one's within driving range---it's no farther away than where I work---but it's the damned inconvenience of it all. I mean the place was always busy, so why close it at all?
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if, sometime before my next vacation, every Borders closed down...
Also for some inexplicable reason 7-11 completely pulled out of my city.
Sometimes the players like to move the pieces around, and they don't bother telling the pawns why.
I know this because I saw some cross dressing Statue of Liberty types on street corners.
There's nothing like seeing a Statue of Liberty with a beard to know that April 15 is around the corner.
Of course that hasn't quite popped up yet this year but it will. There was however a whole choir of them yesterday. One was-or at least looked-- female the rest looked...well, lets say they were ugly, flat chested woman.
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Yeah, the Statue of Liberty dancers have hit the streets here, too. I know times are tough, but surely there must be better entry-level jobs?
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Like this line. I may have to use it, PD (if that's okay).
I saw a statue of Liberty with a beard today.
It used to be they used both Uncle Sam and S of L outfits both with the right genders but the last couple of years they don't care or maybe they think it will attract more customers if passerbys saw a male S of L.
Cross dressing isn't that big around here. Even though about five years ago a bunch of crossdressers picketed a local talk radio station, all were wearing kinda short miniskirts.
Hmmm, maybe I could do a Urban Fantasy story about a cross dresser-- a Lady Gaga, or Spears or Madonna impersonator maybe. No no no no
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Snapper, knock yourself out, if it's appropriate add attribution. (Just because I want people to spend an extra brain cycle trying to figure out who this weirdo is.)
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Today I take the plunge and make the trip to the "outer" Books-a-Million store. I'll drive by the old one, to see if they really closed (there's been nothing in the papers about it), then, push on to the other one. But I don't know if it'll be my weekly habit anymore...I may switch to Barnes & Noble, or alternate, or take opportunities to visit more distant bookstores...
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Then again, I'll be shopping for other things. My printer is dying! The last week or so, it's been printing extremly blurry pictures on the "maximum dpi" setting I like to printout certain comics on...in "normal" it's smeared some of the print jobs at about a quarter of the way from the left side of the print page...and also stops midway through jobs and says it's jammed when it isn't, or that the cartridge is jammed, or something or other.
I don't know. I might be able to troubleshoot and fix it, but I don't know if I can. I could take it in for repairs, but then I might not have a printer for a few weeks. It wouldn't be that much trouble (or money) to buy a new printer / scanner / fax machine / whatever, maybe even a better one.
Funny, though...last month it was my monitor, this month it's my printer. And I got them both at the same time. Could my tower unit be far behind? (I had better start copying some important files, like my literary work...)
"Here, I'll take your real currency (gold), and give you this nice, shiny piece of green paper. Isn't that nice of me?"
BUNK!
Why I'm here: Someone spammed my blog, which is typical, but addressed me by one of my main character's names, which is creepy. Is the spammer a Hatracker?
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That's Thing #3 with gold---the price-per-ounce is too damned high.

But definite congrats EPK on your new job! 
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And my dad used to get gold shots.
and in a way you can spend it. There is always someone willing to collect it, to whom you can sell it to.
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Niiice and congrats
Thanks everyone. I'll let you know how it goes.
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They make a few liqueurs with gold flakes in them, mostly for novelty. Not being much of a drinker, I've never tried them.

Actually, I would take out the hot snacks and the beer but the rest of it sounds good. 
Did I ever mention how I missed out on getting in on the Great Silver Boom of the late 1970s? I did a report on silver in the early 1970s for school when silver went for, like, four dollars an ounce. Seemed like a good investment, but like most preteens, I had no money. So I missed out when it went up to fifty dollars an ounce (and even now about twenty-five dollars an ounce.) Not the only thing I've missed out on, either...
How do you all feel about using pen names/pseudo names as a writer? Are they necessary to any extent, or are they just for show?
I'm actually wanting to use the name Bill Quiverlance as a pen name but it might be taken as too ridiculous. I thought if was fun.
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Poorly. Such are the raging needs of my ego that, if I couldn't publish under my own name, I don't think I'd bother---unless the money were off the scale or something on that order. Publication itself isn't sufficient.
Looking at it from the reader's perspective...the bulk of you post here under made up names. How will I know something is yours if I don't know what name you're putting it under?
Bill Quiverlance...Perfect for gay historical romances. Ever heard of The Macaronis?
By the way, more people are likely to respond to a question about pen names in Open Discussions rather than here.
As to hockey: Me like hockey! My throat is just now recovering from a Hockey game I went to last week. (Then I went to a choir practice the day after, plus I had a sore throat developing already.) The thing is you have to scream at a Hockey game, it's Canadian law, and any pond or arena where Hockey is being played become Canadian soil.
As to sports in general: It's a throwback to the old warrior caste. (It's odd that we still have warriors but they no longer fill that role in society, I believe modern soldiers fill more of a religious caste.) An athlete represents the pinnacle of the abilities of the human body, and it is a thrill to see it. (Some don't care, that doesn't mean they are broken, just have different thrills.)
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Robert, if you don't know my real name by now, then I doubt you care. To know what Hatrackers' have published, you would need to follow profile links or read the Publications & Reviews forum. Our usernames don't make a difference in this.
Your profile doesn't list a real name or pen name...unless you're publishing under "aspirit," I wouldn't know something was by you if I tripped over it.
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Bill Quiverlance and the Macaronis...sounds like a mid-sixties rock group, like Paul Revere and the Raiders...
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How do you all feel about using pen names/pseudo names as a writer? Are they necessary to any extent, or are they just for show?
I have wrestled with this myself. My name is, apparently, fairly common. Many people of moderate fame (including scientists, professors, athletes, writers, a well-known photographer, an evironmentalist, and a computer code designer) all have my name (or vice-versa). There is even a fairly well-known science fiction writer from the 30's and 40's that shared my first initial and last name. I never knew my name was that common.
My concern is that if I do ever "break through", whether I will be confused with any of these others. I went ahead and used my real name for my recent HM with WOTF, but I will probably choose a pen name if I start getting published. Besides I kind of like the name, Philo - it has grown on me.
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...I believe modern soldiers fill more of a religious caste.
That's interesting, Pyre. Can you elaborate?
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by aspirit -- Bill Quiverlance...Perfect for gay historical romances.
Love it! I told my wife and she can't stop laughing.
LAST SEEN 1985. IF FOUND PLEASE MAIL BACK TO ADDRESS ON BOTTOM OF SHOE. SMALL REWARD OFFERED.
And this is why you shouldn't speed on a curvy residential road that hasn't yet been plowed.
Let us know how things go for you.
Write all about it, too. You know, for insurance purposes. And a possible story to sell.
Elsewhere...up north where I used to live, this guy's house was right where one major road came off a long and steep hill and stopped and joined another road. Nearly every winter, somebody plowed into the house. The third or fourth time, he put up this big earthwork berm. After that, they skidded into that, and not the house.
Stay well...and, word of warning: Don't let 'em declare your apartment uninhabitable at least until you get a chance to get your stuff out of it.
The pipeline that the SUV is teetering on runs parallel to a busy street which passes over the freeway (and has a high chain-link fence running along it). We had a big snow storm yesterday--Wednesday--but that road would have only been wet, not icy.
The driver has been given a DUI citation.
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We always have fog this time of year-when we hear the song "White Christmas" we wonder why anyone would write a song about fog-but the last few years it's been relatively thin but in some places not that far away from me, the pea soup fog is back.
'Twas down the glen one Easter morn
To a city fair rode I.
When armed line of marching men
In squadrons passed me by.
No pipes did hum, no battle drum
Did sound its loud tattoo
But the Angelus bell o'er the Liffey's swell
Rang out in the foggy dew.
Even if it's in the public domain, which I sincerely hope it is, it would be nice to give credit where credit is due.
So I need to try calling again with the right number.
And I add that that new phone number didn't pan out either. I tried twice and no one answered the phone either time.
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First of all I'm in zombie mode for the first part of my Saturday shift because it starts a 8:45 AM which wouldn't be so bad if I didn't work till 1 AM the night before. Early in the day I had to make a delivery to this one building and I found that someone had decided to move stuff around so the hallway was filled with crap that I had to maze through carrying a box of paper towels and a box of large trash liners. This was difficult to do on zombie mode. Then when we got to one building it was surrounded by firemen and paramedics, turns out the computer repairman had been moving furniture and started having pain in his arm. The guy was at risk for a heart attack/stroke so it was taken quite serious. We're pretty sure he just tore a muscle, which still sucks for him. Of course we then had to put all the furniture back. Later we went to the ice-cream shop to take a break and the freezer was broken, (although I guess this counts as the ice-cream people's bad day, since I got some free runny ice cream.) Then we had to go clock-in the part timers and get them going, which went smoothly except we have this new guy who has the nasty habit of talking about the things around him as if he's casing the joint for a robbery. It's just stressful handing that guy a master key. Next I had to hit a stain that was right in the big boss's through way, but of course I realized that one of our machines had been leaking in the closet and I had to deal with an emergency mildew outbreak. Then as I went to talk to my part-timers about what we were going to do about their leaking machine, I discovered that they were a little late coming back from their 15 min. break, 30 minutes of searching for them later I found them laying around back where they should have been working. So then of course I had to impress on them that that was a bad idea, then I had to go hit that important spot and let one of my more leisurely duties fall to the wayside. When it was finally time to lock up the building there was an unusually high number of people to kick out. While I was doing that I noticed a broken stair, just one more thing I need to call in. And to top it all off I left my reading book at work so poor Harry Dresden is stuck in the middle of a fight with a pack of lycanthropes for the weekend.
But I just saw an interesting Benny Hill clip where he was watching a man and woman playing tennis, well he was watching the woman anyways, and there was this Irish Wolfhound in the frame. We get a close up of Benny's face as he is clearly having thoughts, then we get the wavy screen and we can see what he's thinking about, which turns out to be him imagining himself in the woman's place beating the man handily at tennis. Then we get shot out of his mind and we see that the Irish Wolfhound has peed on his leg, and the fantasy turns into the man beating Benny at tennis.
Benny Hill tends to put things in perspective.
Monday morning I came home from work with a sore throat...by Monday night it was the sniffles, and Tuesday I was so out of it I was flat on my back the whole day---gave me too much of a headache to even have the TV on. Bad cold. Lingered something awful...Wednesday night I called in sick, and Thursday night I was all set to go, as far as getting my work shoes on, when I started throwing up.
Been going in, these last two nights, though I don't feel that well even now. Writing's been right out the window. At least it doesn't seem to have moved down into my lungs, so I won't be congested and coughing for months.
(I'd think it was the flu, but with only a mild fever and the symptoms---also, my mother insists nobody in our family ever catches the flu. I'm dubious but can't say I ever have had a case of the flu...)
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Ah, memories...I used to work with a guy who'd stretch a fifteen minute break into almost an hour, and over an hour for a half-hour lunch break. (Rule-of-thumb: five minutes going, fifteen minutes there, and five minutes getting back.) And these usually at critical times, like switching from one pass to another, or dispatch pulldowns---and, often, too, just when I wanted to go on break. We got rid of him, eventually.
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And to top it all off I left my reading book at work so poor Harry Dresden is stuck in the middle of a fight with a pack of lycanthropes for the weekend.
You know how it came out but was that the fight in the garage?
I have done that with my writing. I had to leave my hero in a fight for a week before I could write how he got out of it. Imagine sitting in the cockpit of starfighter for a week while you waited to see if you were about to be blasted or if your missiles hit the other guy. Or being a wizard out for a morning jog and because of your pride falling into a trap set by an inner city gang you should have seen from a mile away and then having to wait a week before you can figure how to get out of it.
That reminds me of a story I saw on TV many years ago. It was part of a TV anthology series that lasted one year. Anyway this story had a man and woman who didn't know where they came from or were going. But even though there was a car the guy had memories of being on horseback with a sixgun on his hip. Every now and then you and they could hear a loud rhythmic tapping above them. I think you can guess what that turned out to be.
I once had a character have to wait a month while I figured out how he could possibly survive the fight he was in, it turned out the answer was he couldn't. So the delay kept him alive a little while longer. (He was still mad at me about it.)
But have you realized that Butcher used about every type of werewolf that there is in that book? Talk about getting it from all sides.
Oh and thanks for the spoiler.
Dumb questions:
why do people write "G-d" with a hyphen for an "o"? Is it out of revernence?
Also, why in books (particularly older literature) is a person's name something like: M________ Boulanger. What do the underscores mean after the first initial?
Also, I found a new apartment today. The CO inspection is Wednesday, and if all goes well I should have the keys on Thursday.
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Oh and thanks for the spoiler.
You're quite welcome.
Well, I did try to make it as small as possible. You should have been expecting another fight with them anyway.
And I left out something important about that scene....the Butler did it.
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LDW, I think that's a different word.
A different word than God?
And I should add that sometimes I don't like to use the word as part of the reverence thing and to not take His name in vain. Of course God isn't His name but in our society it's close enough.
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I do the G-D thing for two reasons, that includes a few other words I would spell out that way....
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Hungary man.
I can only attest to the Jewish habit of replacing the 'o' in God with a dash, which is tradition, not Halakha (Jewish law), something several rabbis at prominent yeshivas have demonstrated by writing GOD on a blackboard, then erasing it. It is an act of respect, but not considered necessary.
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I believe there is a big difference between "G-D" and "G-d".
Ohh, that's what you meant. Took me kinda long to get it.
Getting back to the crossing dressing Stature of Liberty. I saw a red one on the home the other day. They are usually light blue but this one was solid red. Only seen it once.
And a day or two before that I saw one in my local paper. I forget where but it was actually a pic of one of the snowed in regions of the country but there right beside a snow drift was a guy dressed as the Miss Liberty...light blue.
Hope he was wearing thermals under that.
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you could fit every living human on the PLANET inside the state of Rhode Island and give them 3 square feet each and still have 14 billion square feet uninhabited...
(if the conversion table I used worked correctly... not to mention the math I did on fingers and toes.)
BTW - Houston, Texas is roughly 16 billion 750 million square feet...
I know this has nothing to do with 'hamster feet', but....
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The other day, out of the corner of my ear (I know it doesn't make sense, but I don't know what else to call the auditory equivalent to "out of the corner of my eye") I heard a kid say, "I seen a guy snort a worm."
Incorrect grammar aside, that is a fantastic sentence.
About the Stature of Liberty guys.
When they first opened they used both Uncle Sam and the Stature. It made sense and I thought a nice departure from just the signs. I think they did it for two or three years. And I noticed that each year, the closer it got to April 15th, the more guys wore the liberty outfit. But last year or the year before they dropped the Uncle Sam outfits and as I said taking a closer look at their logo I can see why they use the Liberty outfits. But still curious about them dropping the other or why they used it all if they were going to drop it.
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Or does this post just make me a pervert?
Just this post?

Not sure where the fireworks are coming from, but the first 30 seconds was all I watched. I've officially crossed the threshold into the AM dial -- talk radio and audio books for me.
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Ethereon: If anybody gets funked up, it's gone be you. :-)
That includes if they listen to Grand Funk?
wetwilly, I can see why you think that but I think it was from between her breasts.
And if I understand the message right I may have a new title for my "New Mage On The Block" novel. After all my "Bright Lights and Chaos" is named after a video...one I haven't seen.
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Not sure where the fireworks are coming from, but the first 30 seconds was all I watched. I've officially crossed the threshold into the AM dial -- talk radio and audio books for me.
That one song was enough to drive over the edge?...even though I listen to AM at work.
I am blessed in that there are two FM stations I love here abouts. However neither comes in on our clock radio so I have to wake up to Country.
But both are on the internet.
BTW they're both short enough I decided I didn't want to take the time to rename them.
Nothing wrong with the song. It's one of those "it's not you, it's me" things.
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Right now there's an AM oldies station out of Port Charlotte and an FM oldies station out of Sarasota---but it's real obvious that, most of the time, they play the same playlist at the same time. Also, the AM station is a "sundowner," fades as night starts to hit---and the FM station is too far away for a clear signal.
(Ah, well. At night I can skip all that and listen to WSM out of Nashville, or even WCBS out of New York---that is, when Radio Havana doesn't drown them out.)
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The last FM Oldies station in my area (Ft. Myers Florida) started calling itself "The River" a few weeks ago
That seems to be the in thing with music stations these days...adding a one word name. Used to be only a couple that did it now its seems to be most.
One around here calls itself The Blaze, that is semi-new. A Kiss Country is old but a new country station is calling itself the Wolf. Even one of those stations I listed has started calling itself spirit88.9 instead of the call letters they used to use as a name. Actually, they are using both on the air since legally they are still known as KDUV.
There are a couple other newer names also.
I want to start a station called good stuff, where we just play music without caring what decade it happened to have been recorded in, or what genre it's in.
Let me run through my pre-set buttons...I've got twelve FM and six AM...FM 1.1 the (former) oldies station, 1.2 the Sarasota oldies station, 1.3 something that calls itself Bob FM which plays a fair variety of songs from the 1970s on, 1.4 through 1.6, three country stations...FM 2.1 through 2.3 I guess you could call them "heavy oldies," covering mostly the heavier stuff from the 1970s on (similar to Bob FM but not quite as wide a playlist), 2.4 an FM station which simulcasts an AM talk radio station (this used to be an oldies station but changed rather abruptly), 2.5 the local public radio station (used to play classical music but switched to (mostly) NPR), 2.6 a station that used to be "music of your life" (old stuff that's not rock), but of late has been playing more recent mellow stuff...AM 1.1 the aforementioned talk radio station, 1.2 WSM Nashville, only during the night and often drowned out by Radio Havana and / or static, 1.3 WCBS New York (same reception problems as 1.2), 1.4 a news-on-the-minutes station, 1.5 the Port Charlotte oldies station, and 1.6 unset, tuned to the upper end of the AM dial.
If it wasn't for my iPod, I might not hear any music I actually want to listen to---but I can't plug my iPod into my car stereo.
(I use an FM repeater around the house, like, say, listening to my iPod through my shower radio.)
There was one called Crazy but it's call letters were Krzy so that fit. Actually it might have been the one called something hare. It might have been the Crazy Hare. It's logo was a rabbit playing an electric gaiter. They had a ten foot tall ballon they would blow up for each remote.
The aforementioned "The River" former Oldies station still has, far as I know, the call letters WOLZ...
You'll be guaranteed to have a handful of stations you'll gravitate too.
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Get satellite radio. The music is commericial free.
Ah, but you get what you pay for.
I'm looking forward to my next car, which, I hope, will have plug-in connections for an iPod. I like a certain amount of control over what I'm listening to...I'm up to about forty-seven-hundred songs on my iPod and have just acquired some "Hard to Find 45s" CDs that I'll be downloading shortly.
In some cases I've got the same Beatles songs from up to five different CD releases---they're all different mixes in some way. I might delete some later but for right now they're all there, except oddities like "Revolution #9," which I didn't bother with, and "The Huge Medley" from Abbey Road, which I made a track of from the vinyl record because I couldn't figure out how to keep it all one track...
So, anyone have any good ideas on how to teach the Tempest? I'm building a unit plan for it and I have one whole day that's empty.
I have had the same problem. Sometimes i can sit and thing and think and it comes back to me out of whatever black hole it fell into, but other times it's lost for ever just as if it never existed.
As to teaching the Tempest, That depends on what you want to teach it.
Sorry, I couldn't help it..it was just too obvious.
Seriously I have no idea. But it seems like you could concentrate on the writer, the characters, or the plot, what makes it unique, why is it loved. Or different areas of the plot. Or try for all five. But I assume you know that already. Maybe try for some direction that not everyone uses.
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Actually, for some reason, I can't get to the last (55th) page of Random Musings. Tried from the forum page, tried from Page 54, tried from Page One. Did we finally "fill it till it won't fill no more?"
So we can all get to this page but Robert can't? Nice!
So what does everyone really think about Robert?
It was just this one page, though...
When I walk along a busy road, I can almost imagine that I'm walking along a beach--except that the smell isn't right, and I can't hear the sea birds.
What reminds me of the beach is the sound of the tires as the cars go past--not the engines--the tires. There's just enough of a sound on the road, and just enough of a doppler effect from the tires, that it sounds almost like surf.
The road I'm thinking of isn't so busy that there are constantly cars, and that adds to the effect, because the cars going past are just intermittent enough to sound surflike as well.
Not anywhere near as wonderful as really walking along a beach, listening to the surf, but it will do in a pinch.
Had I read this thread back then, I could have went to sleep each night believing I was on luxurious ocean-front property.
Of course, I lived even closer to the train tracks.
S!
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Anybody having trouble with the iTunes Store lately? I've been trying to get onto the iTunes Store since last Saturday, but I keep getting a message that it's unavailable at this time. I haven't used it in awhile, since last September, actually, but I can't recall this problem coming up before. And, of course, what I don't know about these things and how they work could fill a manual.
I'd just like to know if anyone else can't get to the iTunes store...that way, at least, I'd know the problem was somewhere at or near my end of it...
It did seem to be a bit slower than normal but that could have been because of the number of people on it. Or other reasons.
Should'a said last time what I'll say now. Thanks.
Honestly, I hate iTunes and wouldn't touch it if it weren't out of necessity. My boyfriend is legally blind, and they're the only ones that make their Mp3 players talk. (Yes, you can set the nano to speak its menus.) So we're stuck with them. If Zune or Creative would add the talky bit we would jump ship in a heartbeat.
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Oyitch!
Well then scratch it and spare us the narration.
Was someone singing there?
In Bosnia there's no tax return. 
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I save my procrastination for my writing.
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I save my procrastination for my writing.
Chuckle...but than again I get it. 
But we are usually last minute. My wife does our taxes. She knows more than I do since she is data transcriber for them. But this year we went on an emotional roller-coaster ride. First we owed 2,000 plus to the US government than it came down to hundred and so next we owed 6,000 to the state. I know they secretly raised our taxes, and they need money to keep from going bankrupt or whatever a state goes, but that is ridiculess, we didn't make that much more money in '10. Turned out it was the wrong tax book. We get back four hundred and some.
A few weeks ago I saw one guy who must have refused the dress. He wore the Uncle Sam pants but he may have lasted only a day.
And I noticed that, even when its a girl in the outfit, most of them having been wearing the crown upside down. The other day I saw one girl with it right. I thought about stopping and saying, " hey, you got it right." 
Speaking of the Statue of Liberty, did you see the current Statue of Liberty stamp from the USPS? The picture's not of the famous one, in New York...it's a picture of the replica one, in Vegas.
And if you look closely there is a part with a Liger in it.
The last time I had to deal with this was in grade school---so I'm doing what I did then: getting some personalized Sharpie pens made up with "Personal Property: Robert Nowall" written on them. We'll see in whose hands they turn up next.
(They're a bunch of petty thieves 'round there---they put a lock on the first-aid kit because people helped themselves to supplies, and more recently, put a lock on the supervisor office door because they complained about someone stealing their prescription drugs. Meanwhile, we the workers can't lay our hands on the supplies we actually need to do our jobs---like Sharpie pens.)

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Have you ever caught the perpetrator red-handed? I had a case when the food-thief vehemently denied it though it was pretty obvious that he was sifting through other people's grub.
The nerve.
Okay -- stealing lunches? That actually happens?
We have community refrigerators at work and it would be easy to do, but I am not aware of any incidents like that. I guess it depends on where you work.
There's a simple cure...stock your lunches with tuna sandwiches...heavy with the mayonnaise...left out for several nights...under a heat lamp...
He apparently always had that issue. When he worked at a factory one guy baked brownies with exlax to teach him a lesson.
That would be one way for you to discover who the perpetrator is EVOC. Another way is to put a slice of very hot pepper in a sandwich, just cover in peanut butter so the scent doesn't tip them off or the flavor doesn't seep into the sandwich. You'll want the person to absorb the entire effect.
Of course, I would recommend a note on the fridge or your lunch asking them to stop first.
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I have heard of other people using that method, it seems to be the acceptable method now. But I read of one guy who did that with brownies, later he happened to see his boss bunching on the brownies.
I would try the note first and see if anyone else would want to sign it. If the note is ignored then go to the next step.
I supposed I will have to make it Non-Fiction now.
I will probably have time to duck in some time early tomorrow morning, so you might want to hold off till then.
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(Well, more raw than the usual...)
My wife had some of her solar powered light stakes..five or six of them... stolen from our front yard a few days ago. Only the stakes even though she has other things out there.
She wants to get a security camera set up and now seriously wants to rent a huge, mean guard dog for a month and I guess chain it out front but hidden. Well, maybe not chain it.
But how she will get the dog to hide, I don't know.
And on what might be the busiest in town there are signs for two different places that pay cash for gold. One signholder though is interesting. He plays an electric guitar, complete with battery pack on his belt and an speaker. He's always on the other side of the street so I can never hear him play though.
Ever now and then on the same corner there's somebody in a costume, I can never figure out what it is suppose to by. Maybe a pack of cigarettes for a discount cig place down the street but I'm not sure of even that.
But the other day I spotted someone new on another street. This guy was a new take on the old stereotype of the guy in the robe holding a sign that said the world will end-sometimes on a certain date. This guy was on a bike and the sign was hooked onto him. I saw it only for half a second so I could be wrong but it looked like it said the world would end by some date I couldn't make out. He set up the sign all wrong though. It faced the front and acted like a sail catching the wind and causing him all type of problems. He should have had it side ways so the edge would cut into the wind.
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I think you can rent a guard dog. Or maybe lease one.
LD, I think you misspelled leash.
And it would open up some jobs for pet repomen/repowomen when people don't pay their pet bills.
"Put down the baseball bat and back off, dude! I don't care how much your kid cries about it; the turtle is coming with me!"
Candace points out some books and gives one line opinions of them based on the cover. When her mom calls her on it she says:
"Mom, that's why books have covers: to judge them."
Check this out. Actual sizes of popular TV sci-fi spaceships
Some of these things are astounding. I thought the Galactica would have been larger for some reason.
Yeah, I would have thought the BG would be closer to the Star Wars Executor Class.
I mostly liked that show. Even if it did some strange things by sticking everyone on a certain planet one season.

But we are still going to get the Surveillance system.
I still don't know how she thought she could get the dog to hide in the bushes out of sight until someone grabbed something.
And her first thought was to electrify the yard.
The other night had one about spending time in another city on vacation I think. Some made up city. Not much for a SF or Fantasy story but it could go with a general fiction I suppose. I do have three general fiction stories and some day I want to do a, hmm not sure what you call it but some type of strange adventure genria. "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo". There's another one I've heard about but can't recall the title but to me it fits in the same category.
Anyway, some of my dreams might fit something like that.
Instead of an expensive surveillance system to catch a pety thief, how about considering a game camera? They're camoflaged and work on a motion sensor. You'll see who and when was in your yard and why they were there. Nothing scares a kid more than getting expossed in front of their parent. Showing mom and dad their angel has devil horns goes a long way on straighten them out.
And my wife assumes its adults doing it.
Finally. Took me forever to find my password and reset it all. Geez, got some bug that wouldnt let me google on firefox, had to uninstall firefox, lost my preferences, my bookmarks and then reinstall. It took 4 times before I could post here. Enough to make me drink.
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And John, my wife wants to prosecute, not convince them from doing it.
What is a Condensed Book? Do you add a can of water and get the whole book?
Gave my wife a much needed chuckle.
(1) When you buy a Visionwear glass pot far away and try to transport it home, be very careful how you pack it.
(2) Those one-stall-fits-all bathrooms create potential disasters when in use or out of order.
(3) Neil Gaiman thinks it's okay to take forty thousand dollars to speak at a library because he usually gets sixty thousand.
Inside the waitress(who knew me, because she lost 47 pounds in the spin class that I taught in order to afford painting supplies) gave me a free burger and fries. In walked a rock star, who was performing in Denver, but got in an argument with his band mates so he took a drive to cool off, and then his car broke down on the exact street of the diner I was in, who looked surprisingly a lot like Kevin Jonas, but WAS not Kevin Jonas.
Well, we got to talking, and then went for a walk, and it was that warm orange sky from the streetlights shining in the middle of the night through a gentle snowstorm, and we ended up sitting on a park bench in the middle of a small ice rink which was covered in twinkling lights, which Kevin, I mean... not Kevin, said reminded him of fireflies, and then we both left for our homes.
In my studio apartment, the heat finally started, and I painted a gorgeous picture of being in the middle of fireflies, and the rock star went to his hotel room and wrote a song about fireflies, and then the next day, after I woke up(in real life) I heard Owl City's song Fireflies for the first time.
True story.
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Use what talents you possess; the woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best
Henry Van Dyke
I have some dreams kinda along those lines. But one I had a few years ago had Harry Dresden, of Jim Butcher fame, doing some stuff like shrinking to about one inch tall, maybe three, so he could go after some mini trolls or something that lived under a house. The unique thing about it was in the dream I was watching part of it on TV. A few months later I heard they did make a TV show about him...it turned out to be sort of about him.
Robert, I dream about having to find a bathroom and I can't or it's out of order or filled.
I avoided TV shows and a certain author's stories for a week after that. The trouble with dreams are the random relationships.
What does it mean? I want to be seven feet tall? I'm still obsessed with school? I feel guilty about school? Does the mailbox have any inner meaning related to my postal worker job?
Well, who knows? I sure don't. I subscribe to the notion that dreams don't mean anything unless you want them to, and, in general, are just your mind resting and not firing on all its cylinders. Probably everything above involves something I've seen, read about, heard about, or thought about in the last few weeks...
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The night I first watched Inception, I had a 3-layer dream. All of the layers were just boring, mundane activities. In one layer I was just driving around Columbus (where I live) aimlessly, then in the next layer down I was grocery shopping. I can't remember what the third layer was. Once I woke up out of the dream layers into reality, I thought, "Good job, brain. That was the most boring night of sleep I've ever had."
Columbus, Ohio? Go Buckeyes!!!
I grew up in Dayton. Half my family went to OSU.
I love Monk. My wife and I have almost finished the series. It will be sad when I run out of episodes.
I wound up realizing (1) the abovementioned thesis that "dreams don't mean anything unless you want them to," (2) there are lots of story ideas in dreams, and (3) one of my dreams (not a nightmare) was so disturbing that it haunts me down to this day.
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I LOVE my job (high school drama teacher).
Do High School kids need someone to teach them drama? I think they create plenty of drama on their own.
Yep, your right, dreams can mean whatever you want them to.
Last night I dreamed I got a pug and it was nuts anytime I was away from it. (Well it was nuts anytime I was near it too.)
I suppose you can gain insight through dreams, even if it's something outside you...
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I might accept Pyre Dynasty's analysis except the dream involved school, and not work---aside from that, I do feel under- and un-utilized at work, though.
Anyways I've been spending my memorial day weekend refinishing a floor for dead people, it seems appropriate. It always gives me freaky dreams when I do that. This time I had to push a cart full of brains in tupperware into the other room. There was also one of they gurneys with a squeaky wheel, it sounded like muffled screaming coming from the body bag. It's going to take me days to scrub off the smell of death. The floor looks good though, even though next week they may spill some unspeakable goo on it.
But you did have to mention Necrophiles. I just got an idea of a short horror story involving them. Ugh.
Actually, it might be an interesting idea if it wasn't gross.
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(Look on Page Three of this and you'll see I said this once before.)
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Necrophilia is a bad idea: you're in love and she doesn't know you're alive.

I am scared, so very scared. Someone muse, stat!
Stange Horizons has so deeply disappointed me. They have a self-restricting response time of 70 days, even saying in their guidelines...
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...if you haven't heard back from us in 70 days, query immediately...
...so you can imagine my optimistic expectations once day 71 came and no response had been received by them. Made me believe my story was under consideration.
My very nice and patient query was answered with a swift and generic rejection. Come on now, not even a bone for me to gnaw on for this hungry dog?
However, I would've, on another thread...and I will, shortly.
Hey any nerds here?
http://www.gocomics.com/adamathome/2011/06/07/
But I have something to say but ran out of time tonight.
But be ye not fretful, oh worried one. We brave and handsome and strong ones will keep marching even through Mud and muck and slings and arrows and high heat or that is high water. There have been other dry periods on this thread, someone has a bit of wisdom to pass one sooner or later.
I just copied it fifteen minutes before posting it here so that would have been a quick change.
Incidentally, this morning I found one from Tuesday sent last night, and one from Wednesday sent early this morning, but not one for today.
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My very nice and patient query was answered with a swift and generic rejection. Come on now, not even a bone for me to gnaw on for this hungry dog?
I once had Del Rey Books sit on three-chapters-and-an-outline for over a year...and my query brought an apology for taking so long, a quick extraction from the slush pile, and a swift rejection. (I'm not sorry; in retrospect, it was terrible.)
"You're Thor!" the maiden replied. "I'm thorer, thir, than you!"
I had a few of episodes of night terrors when I was a teenager. It was as if a demon was trying to possess me and when I tried to move or speak, I was unable and felt as if I was pinned to my bed. This experience is the only experience I can relate with the feeling of "horror."
I don't know if the issue with night terrors is a pure physiological/psychological phenomenon or if there is a spiritual element to it as well. I'm sure scientists would tell you one thing and a spiritual person quite another. I will say that I don't have fear of having night terrors anymore (and would never expect to have them again) as a Christian believer. At the same time, I don't want to belittle any issue that really could be medically-related and requires medical attention.
What goes on, physiologically when you sleep, is that the nerve signals to the muscles are shut down so you don't thrash around the bed when you dream. If you wake up suddenly, the signals haven't had time to start up again, and you feel paralyzed.
You can find out more about it on Wikipedia.
But there are certainly other kinds of night terrors. My sympathy to your sister, Pyre Dynasty.
I had learned about the sleep paralysis years after my episodes. It is entirely possible that my whole experiences were physiological. I also had bad nightmares at the time -- something I haven't had in years.
The whole concept of dreams and sleep is a fascinating subject itself.
Most of the time he stayed bed. They are actually fairly common in children, so my Doctor says. But it sure scared the heck out of me.
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And all I can say is, "Wow!"
. Their little tunnels are genius since they're only large enough for the ants themselves, so any larger insects would have a useless time trying to invade an ant colony.I actually used that as a strategy in one of my stories, where the humans are going against larger creatures that absolutely demolish them on open ground. So they make networks of tunnels just big enough for humans, and they have those tunnels studded with holes they pop up through to take potshots at the enemies.
But we manage to have some control of our ants. Notice I said some control.
Anyone see that old Horror movie Phase Three or some such?
I can check the forums and stuff, but posting first 13 crits will probably have to wait.
I'm excited to hopefully get my normal brain back, and get some real writing done. In the last nine months I have only finished one story. I've written a lot of beginnings, some I'm actually happy with, but I don't seem to have the brain energy to follow the dots to an ending.
But critting probably won't be happening for a few months. So snapper, get on the ball with the challenge, or I will be critting stories from a hospital bed. I've got four weeks left, snapper...
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So I am having a baby in a couple of weeks...I'm excited to hopefully get my normal brain back, and get some real writing done.
I, ah...wouldn't count on it...
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I, ah...wouldn't count on it...
My first thought was to ask which you meant the normal brain or the get more writing done. But my second thought was most probably both.
I started seriously writing after my daughter was born and had grown a bit. Even though I didn't have her, I did spend a lot of time carrying her around for the first year or so, changing diapers etc.
I know this by the fact that there are stacks of plywood appearing in many shopping centers.
I've never seen them unloaded so I don't know if aliens, or people from the future, transport them down, if a warp hole opens and they pop in from an alternate universe or if some wizard uses magic but they are there every year at this time. After a week or so they turn into booths that stay around from one week to one month altogether. Then they turn back into piles of plywood and after a few more days that wormhole opens again.
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so you can imagine my optimistic expectations once day 71 came and no response had been received by them. Made me believe my story was under consideration.
Same happened to me, though I got my rejection after 68 days, so I hadn't queried. I was so hopeful, too.
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Same happened to me, though I got my rejection after 68 days, so I hadn't queried. I was so hopeful, too.
responding to this mini thread here, I can relate--I suspect most writers can--Not with Strange Horizons but once F&SF took two months to get back to me and another time six weeks. Just the normal rejection from the usual slush reader, neither hadn't even moved up.
And even though I can't recall for sure which ones now, the same type of thing has happened with one or two other mags.
But which would you prefer?
And Nate I agree with you. 
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Shannon Hale gave birth to twins several months ago, and it put quite a crimp in her writing output, but she's getting back into things now.
So give yourself time, and from my experience, I think I can assure you that you will be back in business (of writing) in a few months, if not weeks.
Congratulations, by the way.
They did that to me last year. Took off two movies in the middle of the week, all I needed was two days then.
Check out "Man on Fire."
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I'm hoping to see Cars 2 sometime in the next week...but, from what I've heard, well...I liked the NASCAR stuff, and the Route 66 stuff...but, near as I can gather, neither is present this time around.
I took my two older boys to see it yesterday for my middle child's 4th birthday.
If you are going in expecting NASCAR and Route 66 you will be disappointed in it. However, if you are going into it for a fun movie, you will enjoy it. I won't spoil it for anyone.
It is worth checking out at the Theaters.
After all it is Pixar, even their worst movies are good.
Me and my wife are going to see Green Lantern next in two weeks, more than likely it will still be playing. She may want to see X-Men: First Class.
As to Cars2 I wouldn't mind seeing it even though I haven't seen the whole first one yet. Evidently him and the tow truck go to Europe and get involved with spies.
HANNA I looked over but decided it wasn't my type of movie but I will take a second look.
Super 8 might be interesting.
Been waiting for Captain America but that's later. From the previews though I have problem with it already. His outfit doesn't fit right. It looks a touch too big for him instead of being skin tight.
Aliens vs Cowboys might be good despite the title.
We'll have to see about Cars 2. Sequels can be hit and miss, often with a lot more miss, but Pixar's got a good track record there too.
But it's fun playing around with a new electronic toy. I usually don't get to spend that type of money on myself. I had to stop before I could figure it all out so I can write or that is procrastinate further by posting these posts.
In Cars 2 it's Japan, and it's more of a spy movie. I just get this from the theatres. I didn't like Cars all too much. It was still good, but my mind kept trying to figure out the biology of it. What are you if every piece in you can be replaced? Are the only people who die the ones who can't afford repairs? It drove me nuts. I don't know why I didn't have the same thing with Toy Story where it's similar. I guess I was younger when I already accepted the mythos of living toys. (In fact my first stories were about such.) Also they way the characters are designed they look like all they are are heads on wheels.
I want to see all the marvel films, as I'm a big fan of the characters. From what I've heard of Thor it's my number 1 want to see. The things people are saying make me think they got some subtleties from the mythology right, because the people who tell me things don't know Tyr about it.
I somewhat dread seeing First Class, because it just looks ugly to me. I read the comic books so I know that different artists bring different styles to the characters and world; and that this is a good thing. But I enjoy myself less when I don't like a particular artist.
Now I'm just rambling, why is it that I can't sleep when I'm most tirade.
What worries me is that the last two Pixar movies were so emotionally moving that grown men wept in the theaters...and, with this, from the outside, it looks like a simple action-adventure movie.
Ah, well...the next Pixar movie in the pipeline is called Brave, it's set in the Scottish Highlands, and features a female protagonist...
Cars2 in Japan??? Boy, was I off. Maybe the blurb I read said overseas and I thought that mean Europe.
And what was the other Pixor movie that had grown men weeping? I assume one was the latest Toy Story.
And any one see Super 8? With Abrams and Spielburg it could very well be better than one might assume by the plot.
I am behind on my movies too, except for the kids ones. This has more to do with my babysitting situation then anything.
I love the movies just as much as I love books. And just like books, I like movies with a good story.
Pyre, I laughed when I read your post about figuring out the biology. It crossed my mind as well, but not until I watched it at home on DVD. Pixar actually put incredible thought into the biology of the Cars, but of course that doesn't make the cut for the movie.
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Can y'all imagine anything geekier than these wedding cakes?
I love it, especially the Futurama and binary cakes! I can only hope in 20+ years when my son meets that special lady, he'll ask for a wedding cake like one of those.
This week I'll be rounding up the Blu-Ray version of the extended editions of The Lord of the Rings movies, though I'm informed there's nothing that wasn't on the original DVDs, not even something from The Hobbit...
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Yup...geeky, all right. I usually bake my own cakes, though I'm no master of the icing...
Oh, we seem to have a lot more around here than we used to. Can't figure out why, we don't have any free standing water, the neighbors pools are kept clean.
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It's something that can effect different people differently. Evidently to must it is like a light flu. But to some it can totally wipe them out for a while with extreme exhaustion and other symptoms or worse, and to even fewer it can kill.
My kids did sit through it without getting bored.
Anyway thanks for the congrats. 
~Sheena
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I'm still stick, missed another day of work, but feel somewhat better now. So far, this cold hasn't moved down into my lungs, and I hope it stays that way 'cause I'll cough for months if it does...
In the past my worse coughing has been at night when it's time to go to bed... whatever time that is.
Anyway, I worked last night...you wouldn't believe what a problem they can be about missing a day or two for being sick...just last night I talked with someone who was sick then-and-there and had been denied leave to go home.
Happy Fourth.!!!!
For those who live in the US of course
For the rest of you have a good day working, studying or writing.
Still the same movie, no extras (unless you count a trailer for a video game), even the Easter Eggs are the same...but the look of it is improved, most of the things that looked back-projected on the DVD look better here (one exception: the Parley at the Black Gate, where they ride up to it, still doesn't look right---it was an add-on to begin with, maybe a shot never properly perfected).
And, when you get down to it, it's still a terrific movie.
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My cold lingers, some nose and throat congestion. At least it didn't go down into my lungs again. I didn't go to see Cars 2 this week, holiday or no, so probably next week.
In HD I worried that you would be able to see the cloth covering the faces of the wraiths too clearly. (Instead of just darkness.) In the theaters it bothered me.
Moving, is usually dreaded by me, but this move represented a step to getting back on our feet.
So now I have to add housework and yard work to my list of writing distractions.
However, they set up a mystery, and I figured out the answer to it about a third of the way through---I don't think I was tipped off by reviews, but some detail might've stayed with me. Let's just say I know all about cars that need special tools in order to work on them. This is one curse of being a writer---you spend so much time plotting things that you can see through someone else's plot.
I'll give it a good going-over again when it's out on DVD and Blu-Ray.
(And it had a ten-minute short featuring the main cast of the Toy Story movies, too.)
And there's another Star Trek one I can't think of at the moment.
I should say that are those under DWS he has other pen names some of which I don't know. and there are ghost writings he's done no one will know. However I think I know one of them.
B&N doesn't carry that many under DWS, I've looked. Maybe I should look again though. The first time I looked for OCS they only had a couple-- months later they had ten or so.
Hmm, I could try the search feature on my Nook.
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I had a UF dream not that long ago but that's all I can remember of it.
I am currently working on one that came from a random thought I had that turned into a day dream. It is now turning into a story.
I wonder if I could turn my current situation into a story. I have an allergy to aloe vera, it gives me a wicked rash. When I was a child I always got the worst sun burns. We thought I had sensitive skin, but it was actually the cream I was putting on after the day in the sun. On Friday I got myself a Strawberry Daiquiri Sobe with lunch, it was on sale so I thought I'd give it a chance. It was tasty, but shortly after I finished it my throat started getting itchy. I gave the bottle a good look and there it was in large letters. I never thought they would put aloe in a drink. Now I have a rash all down my throat.
I can't recall what group I was with but they decided to do a couple of skits to teach how to write. I can't recall the first skit except that the leader of the group was in it. I thought he was in the second one too but it turned out to be a girl playing a man. She had her hair down kind alike the leader's. But she also had an eyepatch and I recall thinking she wore it to look more like a man and I wondered what else she may have worn but that was when I woke.
Second time I have dreamt about learning to write but I can remember what was said or taught either time.
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Second time I have dreamt about learning to write but I can remember what was said or taught either time.
I'm not a dream analyst, LD, but this seems like an important one. I have read and experienced that language is not the easiest thing for a dream to contain. I wouldn't worry about what was said in the dream so much as what you saw.
I suppose it had something to do with the importance of books in my life at the time, like books were as important to me as eating. (Also a character in the Gormenghast trilogy did this, ate books, but I'm pretty sure I had the dream before I read that.)
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I'm not a dream analyst, LD, but this seems like an important one. I have read and experienced that language is not the easiest thing for a dream to contain. I wouldn't worry about what was said in the dream so much as what you saw.
Besides, leaving out a n't on can, I wonder what that dream was saying. That one of my favorite guy authors is really a girl. There is Rob Thompson by whose picture Rob is either a nice looking cross dresser or actually a woman. I like her writing even though I decided not to read any more of her books. The reason is a while back on the what you are reading thread and on my blog.
That I should listen to a girl who is pretending to be a guy while teaching writing?
Or the other way maybe I should listen to a guy with long hair and join his group, too bad Butcher cut his hair. Or is there a group that teaches writing by drama presentations? Hmmm, my church has been showing short videos by a certain group who have a rather unique way of getting Biblical teachings across. Lighthearted and serious at the same time. Maybe another group does the same for writing.
But I can't recall anything about the skits.
It does.
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Maybe all the talkative people went to WorldCon.
AHHH there it is again. 
I was supposed to go this year, and I had to cancel at the last minute. I am so bummed and it seems like everyone everywhere is talking about it.
I couldn't help but notice that all the musicians were looking at their music and playing perfectly well. The music was fine, none of them looked at the conductor, aside from the odd glance.
So, what is he for? What does the conductor do?
Probably ignorance on my part, but rock bands and the like don't need some bloke with a stick to direct them, so why does an orchestra?
Excuse me while I go outside and throw myself on a potato fork until it really, really bloody hurts.
A lot of people are over at google+. I spend about ten to twenty minutes a day there but others seem to be there a lot.
And I think Kathleen has a point about conductors. Some of what a orchestra does is for show, including turning their instruments. And they have already practiced a lot with the conductor so beyond him-or her- explaining the music and saying it's time to start the song, they may not pay attention to him so much. They already know what they are to do and when. I have heard of orchestras playing without a conductor for one reason or another.
As I recall, the gestures the conductor makes are for balance---which group of instruments he wants loud or soft, dominating or background---non-musical terms, but it's been, like, forty years since I last watched a conductor from the viewpoint of a musician being conducted.
(I remember once having to play, oh, "Stranger in Paradise," it's best known to listeners---Poly-something-or-other Dance #2 by Borodin. The brass section dropped out---all of us had forgotten our sheet music. I played the lead from memory, though I was third chair at the time.)
Went on a weekend wedding anniversary trip to Yosemite- two night stay at B&B- at the beginning of August-- told you it took me long enough to think of placing this here.
The weekend was great except for two- three clitches. That third one was how long the line was to get in. Yikes, it was the longest we have ever seen by far. And inside the park they closed one lane on some of the two lane one way roads. With no warning.
Second we got lost momentarily while parking. Had to drive around so much we got turned around and turned around. Took a loong moment to figure out where the stores and bathrooms were.
Third, was the biggest. Five minutes after taking off to leave we couldn't find my wife's camera. Since mine malfunctioned, it was the only one with pictures of this year and she needs it. We pulled over and she ended up tearing up the area behind the seats in my pickup and wrecking the Styrofoam cooler we had just bought before I finally remembered where I saw her put it. And as we waited in the line to get in, my camera decided it was time to quit, not even new batteries helped.
Nice B&B- great, relaxing place- and very nice scenery though.
I've indulged in a massive clean-up of my office, about two-thirds complete (and that took a whole week).
Anyway, my desk, a cheap plywood table, is now largely devoid of crap. But removing the stuff on top of it and under it seems to have an effect. Right now, I'm typing this out on my keyboard---and the whole thing squeaks like hell.
But if your keyboard squeaks, you probably need a new one. 
Sounds like you need some of that heavy stuff on your desk. Maybe buy a hardback dictionary or some heavy book on your type of business. It might impress your co-workers and possibly your boss.
Even then, she stood just outside the door. It was right after that, that I decided to bite the bullet and start cleaning in here.
Doesn't seem to be squeaking as much right now; I took advantage of a little open space and shifted around to another angle...either way, someday soon I plan to get a proper desk in here, assuming I'm still working in the near future...
Where I work I ain't got no desk. In fact I have to lay out my laptop on a work table, every now and then getting in someone's way who wants to work through break.
At home we have just a computer desk with a wee bit of space for any writing. Of course I do most writing on the computer so it usually doesn't matter.
The computer is one piece with a flat but slanted top-down toward the back, it's a bit of sticky wicket to write on top of it. My pen always rolls off when I put it down, then I have to spend a while looking for it instead of writing. Got to find a better place for it.
I thought I would get that out of the way before anyone else asks. 
Actually I have written in that wee space. I need an address or sometimes after I turn off the computer and am brushing my teeth etc. to get ready for bed when an idea about the story I was just writing on comes to mind. So instead of firing everything back up, I just pen a few lines to jog my memory the next evening.
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You spend years brewing your own beer, making meticulous notes, marking every change in temperature, measuring hops like a fanatic, even growing your own, and, finally, after years, and years and bloody years, you find the perfect pint (and even a run on sentence to go with it), and realise that you never noted the recipe, at all.
Happened to me this week. Great minds and all that (minus the run on). I'll call this my pdblake brew and bend an elbow in your honor. Sláinte!
I remember looking at the spaceship cover as I stood by the revolving book rack in the Eckerd's Drugstore in Concord, North Carolina. I had ridden my bike up to there to buy a book.
Somehow this paperback has managed to avoid "transportation" to Goodwill or to the Library. I'm glad. The smell of the pages brings back some of that sense of wonder I felt when I read those stories over 35 years ago.
A little early but I know what Santa Claus drives when he's giving the sleigh and/or reindeer a rest. An older small pickup. I wasn't able to see what make.
I was stopped for a red light and turned to see if there was anything to see. There he was pudgy, about the right height, with a full, long, white beard. He wore a red baseball cap. And you probably can guess what color pick up.
What I don't know is if he lives around here or just traveling the countryside; checking on his list, slumming or just mellowing out.
Yesterday, I flipped through channels and happened on it. They were running "The Scarlet Pumpernickel"---which, if you know it, is one of their classic best cartoons. I watched it through---they're only eight minutes long, most of the time---and damned if they didn't edit out, first, one funny sight-gag, and then the ending! (If you know the cartoon, you probably know the nature of the cut gags.)
It's hardly the only time. There was a Bugs Bunny cartoon that had an ending that---but I digress. I think anybody watching, child or adult, isn't going to be influenced to do anything or believe anything from something they see Bugs or Daffy do or say. But, even if they're protecting the innocent children---why should us putative adults suffer?
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I think anybody watching, child or adult, isn't going to be influenced to do anything or believe anything from something they see Bugs or Daffy do or say.
As a child, and even through my teenaged years, I heard the hyper-protective bubble-wrap-advocate parents rage out against one of my all-time favorite cartoons: The Road Runner. And, it's a good thing I took their warnings to heart...one Saturday morning, after watching that cartoon, I asked my mom to drive me to the tallest building in town; "I want to jump off and land head-first on the concrete sidewalk so I can turn into a walking accordian, just like Wile E. Coyote did. That would be so cool!!!"
This post brought to you by the phrase: "Dripping with sarcasm."
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Well, I just talked to my wife and she told me that we have it on DVD and nothing is edited out of the DVD version but that TV has almost always cut out the last scene. She sent me this link
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Question: Is it possible to make people do what you want them to? Without the use of threats or promises...
A certain guru of a certain group who shall remain nameless says all you need to do to make someone your slave is use "please" and "thank you." Give that a try.
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The Wiki article refers to Daffy "sneezing," but what he does is, er, partake of some snuff, and his reaction thereafter---and I suppose they don't want the impressionable kiddies thinking Daffy was partaking of something else...
I don't get it either. I have three very young boys and they love the classic Looney Tunes. The problem is parents who have a problem with certain shows don't restrict their kids from them. Any cartoon my kids watch, I watch first. This way if I don't like it, they don't watch it.
I found the full version on Youtube.. For those that wish to know what was so "offensive".
I wonder if they've butchered my favorite one yet. I forget its name but Elmer Fudd was a Mountie hunting Bugs. It ends with Elmer asking Bugs if he has any last wishes and Bugs goes into "I wish I was in Dixie . . . " and the whole firing squad turns into a minstrel show. I doubt they'd show that.
Lots of blackface gags get routinely cut. There was one in a Tweety-and-Sylvester movie where Sylvester, disguised as a Swedish maid, complete with Swedish accent, comes in to clean Tweety's cage, grabs Tweety, but actually grabs a firecracker (?) which explodes, [the following being cut] and Sylvester, now in blackface, does an Eddie "Rochester" Anderson imitation and leaves, collapsing at the end.
There's some cartoons that have been dropped altogether. There's one called "Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs," which is one of those things you have to see to believe. I'd post a link but it's a touchy matter---I just watched the whole thing on YouTube, so you can find it there. (Some consider this Bob Clampett's masterpiece, too.)
Somebody said there's, like, seven Warners cartoons they won't show on TV, even when they're showing "all of them" in a marathon run. Too bad.
Speaking about blogging
http://www.gocomics.com/garfield/2011/09/18/
http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/now/is-nicolas-cage-a-vampire/216
But if he was Lincoln would have got him.
Hey. What, you didn't you know Abraham Lincoln was a vampire hunter???
At least according to one book.
Thought it might've been me---either my computer or AOL, probably the latter, has a case of the slows---but, here, I got the "routine maintenance" screen...
Yesterday, the lightbulb in my office lamp blew out. It was annoying, 'cause I'd just changed it about ten days ago. I changed it again, and was sitting here at my computer, when, damned if the new lightbulb blew out, too!
I suppose now there's a problem with the old lamp. It's about, well, how old it is, I can't say---I bought it used, twenty-five years ago---and if it's going to keep blowing out my meager and dwindling supply of Edison-base 100 watters, I'll just have to replace it, maybe with a proper neon-tube office light. (How's that for a long sentence?)
I finally transitioned out of a job that drained all my energy. For two years I tried to write an operations and maintenance manual about a system of systems to which I did not have access. I like tech writing when its part of what I'm creating, but not when its about stuff I'm not knowledgeable about.
Now I'm back to writing code (programming), and absolutely loving it. I'm close to finishing a milestone. I'll have to write test procedures and test it (more tech writing), but I don't mind since the purpose is to validate my own creative work (the software). Life is good!
Also I've been diagnosed with sleep apnea, and feel very hopeful about the cure. I'm tired of being tired all the time. With renewed energy from good sleep and a job I love, I am very optimistic about getting back to Ida (my WIP).
These positive changes are coming about after much prayer. Thanks God! I give Him the credit.
So far it works...which I'm glad of 'cause I don't have to replace it. A stroll through the office supply stores turned up only small desk lamps, the kind that illuminate what's in front of you, not the whole room. This will continue to do.
I've missed you and Ida. Toss her a sheep for me!
This makes me happy.
You know how hard it is to come up with names for your characters?
http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2011/10/02
Free E-book. Kindle or Nook.
For more info
http://www.deanwesleysmith.com/?p=5623#comments
Kristine Grayson "Wickedly Charming" Novel.
Even though it looks like a romance I will give it a try. It's a top writer after all and it's free. One thing though I will wait 'till I get my Nook fired up but I've always wondered if I "buy" a book with my desk computer will it still show up on my Nook? Evidently with my desk computer I can access E-books bought with my Nook.
And should we have a thread for free books?
I am taking my Nook Color, which gives me limited Internet access, and if I can make that work wherever I'm going---which is, as usual, Gainesville to Atlanta to Charlotte to Atlanta to Gainesville to back home---I might be monitoring what's said here.
(I suppose I could try signing on through it, but I haven't figured out how yet, and won't during the trip---unless somebody says something really good and I'm really moved to repsond...)
Second: You can get to hatrack through your Nook, and at least a few other places. I've done it. But if you mean there won't be enough WiFi spots, well you can at least use it for what it was made for... reading.
But I was able to access the internet while gone, and was able to read what was posted while I was gone. (Checking in here and looking it over was relatively quick...mainly I used it to catch some news and read some online comics.)
I did do some e-reading of my e-books, but, mostly, I read the old-fashioned way. More about that later, over in another forum.
Also I suppose someday I should try to post from my Nook Color, or whatever I'm using in the future...not just yet, though...
To Robert I have posted here using my Color Nook and I think so has someone else. I've done it only once though. That keyboard makes it a little bit more difficult to write something out. Of course anyone used to texting may be used to something similar.
But my main purpose for this post is a kinda of venting on another subject... okay definite venting.
I went to C. E. Mirphy's site to check on when he next book is due. One thing about her site that bugs me. She is slow to update the book section which is off to the side of her blog. Very nice looking and well done but she's like two books behind, at least with her Walker books. And there is no list for due date for her next one. I had to go to B&N to get the date.
Second, the big one, thing I want to vent about is that she is working on a side book in the Walker series. An adventure from the POV of another character. That's not bad, it will most probably be a very good book but she is doing something called a kickstarter campaign with it. Sounds like she has done it before with another series but She Does Not Explain what a kickstarter campaign is. Evidently it's raising money for the book but why and how much she needs is no where to be found. With more time I may join her forum so I can post comments and ask. She talks like everyone should know already and it seems from a few posts I read that her readers(followers?) do. But there should be some side link to a post that explains it to us newbies.
An aside here on her last post she tells of a writer she loves and how she "weeps" with how good he is at describing characters in one sentence. Even with this problem I described I almost feel that way about her writing. I despair ever being even close to being as good a story teller as she is.
Right now I'm zeroing in on my wireless connection...think I may have messed it up a month or so ago and it's getting worse.
I will see what happens...and, also, get some replacement cables sometime soon...
Meanwhile, I'm back to cables...more as it develops.
quote:He should have gotten her a Dyson
Originally posted by snapper:
Holidays are coming! You have an idea for thoughtful gift for your loved one? Think hard. You don't want to end up in the doghouse
quote:An EMT, or Emergency Medical Technician, is different from a Paramedic. An EMT is the basic level of Emergency Medical Responder and does not get the same training as a Paramedic. Most Ambulances that respond to emergencies have both a Paramedic and an EMT on them. Basic Life Support units that are taking a person from one hospital to a next may only have two EMTs on the ambulance.
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
I recall when EMTs got their start after the Vietnam war when they were called paramedics. But somewhere along the way the name changed. I have no idea when or why--well I may have an idea or two on why-- but a quite a while back all of sudden I noticed in newspapers and elsewhere that paramedics where being called EMTs. I said to myself whoa I'm still calling them paramedics when half the country, at least, have changed their name.
I wondered who invented the term EMT and for how long had they been called that but probably will never find out.
quote:They treated me really well. I got a crystal trophy of a truck proclaiming me "Driver of the year", a leather jacket with my name on it, and a very nice bonus to boot.
...if I had any idea I would be standing up here to give a speech, I would have taken the time to research the internet and plagiarized a good one...
quote:I Haven't heard the Big Daddy version, but when I was stationed in Japan we kind-of made that one of our theme songs. Except we changed Dance to Drink. I think the song makes even more sense that way:
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Coincidence in my life: evidence.
Before I could seek it out, I was going through my usual online reading this past Sunday---news sites, then a bunch of comic strips, then here. The old strip Dick Tracy---remember that one?---had a character quote a bit of lyric that I recognized as being from "The Safety Dance."
(Would it be too much to say I prefer the Big Daddy version?)
quote:I'll have to keep my eye out for 'em.
I saw my first two Statue or Liberties standing on street corners today.
quote:"Mommy, Mommy, why are there so many Statue of Liberties on every street corner?"
I saw my first two Statue or Liberties standing on street corners today.
quote:Depends on the size of the pin.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
How many Statues of Liberty can dance on the head of a pin?
quote:I can watch Phineas and Ferb over and over. It always keeps me entertained.
Originally posted by Pyre Dynasty:
Doofenshmirtz 1: Do Lamas weird you out?
Doofenshmirtz 2: Yeah, are they camels or sheep?
Doofenshmirtz 1: No, no, I meant Lorenzo.
Doofenshmirtz 2: Oh yeah---
Together: He played Meep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCQr_IA3fwU
quote:I believe I have somewhere along the line. And I have read something about Cithulho. Come to think of it it may have been in a UF anthology I read last year.
LD, have you actually read any Lovecraft? If not, you must, immediately. Most of his stuff can be found online for free these days.
quote:That's because it lapsed into public domain five years ago...
Most of his stuff can be found online for free these days.
quote:This is very useful sight when I am stuck on a character name or if I want a name with a special meaning.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Should'a posted the link to the website I cribbed 'em offa:
http://www.behindthename.com/
...which somebody told me about while here at Hatrack, years ago.
quote:This morning, the start controls on my computer were a different color than they were yesterday...updates like this are profoundly alienating...
Odd thing with my Nook Color...the other day, it downloaded some kind of update---which changed how some of the on- and off-screen controls operated. I didn't know it would (or could) do this.
quote:Not even heart, lungs, and ribs?
...even though he had my chest X-rayed once he found nothing.
quote:Nope, just an N.O. portal out of which giant robots occasionally emerge.
Not even heart, lungs, and ribs?
quote:Word.
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
Suger on top of dirt is worse.
quote:And a merry Tekeli-li! to all!
The penguins! Sweet Astea, the giant eyeless albino penguins! They steal my sanity!
quote:Also known as "brofist"
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
That includes bumping fists--- technically it would touching fists but the other way sounds better.![]()
quote:Oh, yeah! Here ya go shaygirl!
Originally posted by Shaygirl:
Girls brofist.
quote:I used to like getting a tax refund check every year, till it dawned on me I was just getting my own money back, and not near as much as I paid in.
Oh and it looks this year we are getting some money back from the Fed instead of paying.
quote:Anyone getting that much back either has the wrong deductions or likes loaning money to the federal government (which isn't bad, really).
I'm jealous of those on my level and below who somehow get thousands of dollars back each year. We never got that much back.
quote:That raises some interesting theater of the mind. Of course I'm thinking of nine months pregnant.
Training in martial arts while pregnant seems to be harder on classmates than on the pregnant woman.
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Originally posted by Foste:
This afternoon I took a nap and dreamed I was in a succubus strip bar.
I sure have some problems...
quote:One more time.... make a great idea for a story and/or book
lucid dreaming isn't all fun. After a while, you can start to feel as that you're dragged off to unreal places against your will.
quote:I've heard, mostly from comedians, that thinking of nothing is easier for men. However, I can argue that thinking about nothing and not thinking about anything aren't always the same.
I can think of nothing, I'm a guy.
quote:Well, cheer up, think of all the advantages...
I can't get pregnant, I'm a guy... I can think of nothing, I'm a guy.
quote:Yes, but it pays. Firstly, they might not be looking for a permanent positions, because they're still in school. Secondly, they might appreciate the income (and exercise) while they apply again and again and again for entry-level jobs anywhere and everywhere that might take them.
I look at 'em and think, "Geez, I know times are tough, but there's gotta be better entry-level jobs than that..."
If I was doing this for a living, I'd quit and get a job at a car wash.
quote:You seem to persuaded that one's earlier work is invariably not as good as later work. Not necessarily true. I have seen authors (that I won't name because I don't want to fuss with anyone) whose earlier work I liked a lot better than their later writing. Besides, I am guessing King most likely did do his best work with those stories. Maybe he was a different person then, with a different viewpoint and a different voice. But that doesn't make automatically them bad or inferior.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
If it were true...it's certainly low behavior. I'm inclined to the position that one should do one's best work all the time, 'cause there's somebody out there who hasn't seen you before and will judge you on that work. Like I said, I read the work---I'm pretty sure it's the first thing by Stephen King I ever read---and it doesn't stick in my mind.
I can't say precisely how Stephen King became S*T*E*P*H*E*N K*I*N*G, but, if this incident did happen that way, it wasn't because of it, it was in spite of it.
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quote:Read both On Writing and Danse Macabre and found him utterly charming.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
(Also there's an unpleasant air of arrogance about him when he writes any non-fiction.) But every so often he turns out something pretty good.
quote:Pardon me for not being PC But You're Irish Indian??? Or Indian Irish.
I suppose I could use the original Celtic form of my name. Or maybe use the literal meaning, that would be weirdly distinctive. I could steal a name from one of my Cherokee ancestors, like "Mankiller", except she might come haunt me over it.
quote:That is such an interesting suggestion. How well would they clean up if I spilled something on them?
Try welding gloves. Seriously.
quote:Frustrating. I found out that a book I enjoyed, back in the 1980s, itself a sequel to somebody else's work in the 1960s, had multiple sequels---but I found that out long after they'd all long gone out of print and beyond my ability to find and read. (This is yet another reason I don't like indefinite series.) I'm hoping they'll turn up in e-format...
A series I thought had ended but there is at least one more book.
quote:I'm sorry to hear that. We just lost our dog about a month ago. She had an infection from a broken tooth and wouldn't eat, then got very, very sick. She was thirteen.
Tomorrow might be the end of our dog.
quote:Well, you can---well, I can---walk into one of the big superstores and find several things to walk out with (after a visit to the cash register, of course), practically every time. But they often don't have everything, and often lack particular titles I'm looking for---and it's Amazon-dot-com ho!
Print magazines that publish fiction are almost impossible to find outside of a bookstore, and bookstores are getting scarce as hen's teeth in many places.
quote:My local Wal-Marts have book sections consisting of two magazine racks, surrounded by one wraparound waist high shelf that runs about twenty feet altogether. What they offer is strictly limited to Gothic roman, YA fantasy, supernatural romance, and the occasional random modern horror/slasher book. As far as books to hold the attention of someone over the age of thirty? Good luck.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
quote:Well, you can---well, I can---walk into one of the big superstores and find several things to walk out with (after a visit to the cash register, of course), practically every time. But they often don't have everything, and often lack particular titles I'm looking for---and it's Amazon-dot-com ho!
Print magazines that publish fiction are almost impossible to find outside of a bookstore, and bookstores are getting scarce as hen's teeth in many places.
On the other hand...I passed an old favorite used bookstore---I haven't been there in years, as the books I'm interested in these days just don't turn up that much anymore---and it had a "for sale" sign in the window. I gotta say, I was sore tempted---not that it'll happen, but that I was tempted to make an offer. (I've already been-there-done-that---my family owned and I worked in a used bookstore many many many years ago...)
quote:Me too
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Wishing everybody a Happy 2013!
quote:Well, I have edited my daughters' research papers and other school reports for them. They're out of school now, but the one who went to law school was selected to be on the editorial board of the school's law publication because (she says) I taught her how to write by my editing help.
Originally posted by History:
On a completely different subject. How many of you have parents or siblings who write and ask you to critique and edit their work?
quote:That's neat.
Originally posted by Corky:
quote:Well, I have edited my daughters' research papers and other school reports for them. They're out of school now, but the one who went to law school was selected to be on the editorial board of the school's law publication because (she says) I taught her how to write by my editing help.
Originally posted by History:
On a completely different subject. How many of you have parents or siblings who write and ask you to critique and edit their work?
quote:That is not what I meant, exactly. But how nice.
Originally posted by Corky:
quote:Well, I have edited my daughters' research papers and other school reports for them. They're out of school now, but the one who went to law school was selected to be on the editorial board of the school's law publication because (she says) I taught her how to write by my editing help.
Originally posted by History:
On a completely different subject. How many of you have parents or siblings who write and ask you to critique and edit their work?
quote:Where a certain tax preparer has a lot of offices...Liberty.
Originally posted by KellyTharp:
Cross dressed Statue of Liberty . . . where to you live, LDW?
I can tell stories, it's ... writing Klingon that's hard. Giggle.
quote:Somehow I don't think it's pronounced the same.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I was somewhat amused to learn the Klingon word for fish was ghoti...
quote:I've seen that one and thought seriously about buying it...can't recall why I didn't. Something to do with this Seventh son of a Seventh son maybe.
Originally posted by History:
"... alternative history of frontier America (where) folk magic actually works—dowsers find water and second sight warns of true dangers—and that magic has colored the entire history of the colonies. Alvin, the seventh son of a seventh son, is a Maker, the first to be born in a century. He must learn to use his gift wisely. But dark forces are arrayed against Alvin, and only a young girl with second sight can protect him."
Orson Scott Card
"Hatrack River"
(Alvin Maker series)
© IASFM, Aug 1986
•1987 Asimov's Readers' Poll - Asimov's Reader's Poll -- Novelette (Place: 3)
•1987 Hugo Award - Best Novelette (Nomination)
•1987 Locus Poll Award - Best Novelette (Place: 2)
•1987 Nebula Award - Novelette (Nomination)
•1987 World Fantasy Award - Best Novella (Win)
•1987 SF Chronicle Award - Novelette (Nomination)
quote:Well, some people come here by link, I came the hard way by looking through the larger OSC forum.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I was waiting for the month to pass to see and post a rant of my own, but I don't have time this evening.
*****
Actually, I've started to wonder how many people here do understand the connection to "Hatrack River" and Orson Scott Card...I hadn't read the series beyond the stories in Asimov's, but picked it up after hanging out here, and thought it was great...of course I'd read and enjoyed a lot of Card's work, though I've never been fond of "Ender's Game" and have avoided its sequels and permutations...
quote:Flea markets and pawn shops are the friend of the traditionalist. Until/unless the Supreme Court rules that we don't own our own property.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I thought I got it relatively late in the game, much like computers. However, nothing lasts forever, and these high-end electronics things are worse than most at lasting. (I had (still have) a VCR that could have been fixed with one simple plastic part---a part the company did not stock.)
quote:Deal! We've had just shy of 24 inches here this month, which is twice the average amount for March. My kids are on spring break, and I'd love for them (and me) to have some spring.
Originally posted by tesknota:
Can I please have that snow? I will give you an 88 degree Monday complete with overbearing sunshine, clouds sold separately.
quote:I always thought it was a certain type of beastie but I don't know maybe it only fit with the rhythm. Or there used to be long legged beasties that went with ghoulies and we don't know what they were anymore.
Originally posted by rcmann:
I am dwelling upon a quandry. In regard to the immortal line about "ghoulies and ghosties and long-legged beasties and things that go bump in the night", I am puzzled. I can see why ghoulies, ghosties, and things that go bump in the night could be a cause for concern. But why long-legged beasties? Is it possible that the author was terrorized by a rampant stork in their youth?
quote:An understatement if there ever was one. Somewhere 'round here are earlier comments on why I didn't go to see this or get a DVD or whatever and watch it at home...I won't bore you with a rehashing of it all. But read Poul Anderson's "Call Me Joe" and look for similarities.
The story is not original.
quote:Then I think you've missed out, Robert.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
quote:An understatement if there ever was one. Somewhere 'round here are earlier comments on why I didn't go to see this or get a DVD or whatever and watch it at home...I won't bore you with a rehashing of it all. But read Poul Anderson's "Call Me Joe" and look for similarities.
The story is not original.
quote:The hero is a disabled marine.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Also there's the report that Cameron makes US soldiers thoroughgoing bad guys---something that never will please me.
quote:Yeah, I've heard the same thing. The bad guy uses the military to invade the peaceful planet.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I'll remember that the next time I get a comment back saying my story is unoriginal.
I have other reasons to avoid Avatar---life's too short, for one. Another is the matter of the story doesn't resonate with me like it did with Cameron's previous movie (Titanic). Also there's the report that Cameron makes US soldiers thoroughgoing bad guys---something that never will please me.
quote:We--as in me and my wife-invented them. 28 years or more with paid vacations and never gone anywhere.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Going on one in about a week---a "staycation," most likely. Home, with maybe a couple of days somewhere else. Where the living is easy and the toilets get cleaned every so often.
but still something to think about.
quote:Thanks, I saved the link, but I didn't find a way to see if a name is first or last.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Re: African last names. I checked out http://namesite.com/ which seems to have a selection, organized by ethnicity, country, or the alphabet.
quote:Thank you for the info. But one thing how much if anything is Xare and what is the web address? Could always google that of course.
Originally posted by KellyTharp:
LD - I too downloaded GIMP. It took a lot of trial and error to get the hang of it. I ended up using Xara Photo & Graphics designer to do my covers. It's much easier to learn and I liked their "make my own web site" designer package. It worked for me - a village idiot - and Xara gives you a free posting site for your web site. Both programs can do more than I can do with them, for someone more experience. That said, I am thinking about having a redesign of my book covers by one of Smashword's recommended cover designers. You can see my Xara covers at Smashwords, Book one: The Protectorit, Book two: For the Honor of Black Roses. They're a bit dark, so I'm interested in a pro's design to see what it would look like.
quote:Me too.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Meant to mention this a couple of weeks ago, but, I guess, the Nook is dead or dying:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07/09/barnes-noble-ceo-resigns-following-nook-losses/
Once again, it seems I've backed the wrong horse on the techno hardware curve...I suppose I'll stick with my device as long as it works, and, at some point, move on to a Kindle or something else...
quote:"Llhal and lahal!"
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
...In the past I thought about going as one of my favorite book heroes. One Dray Prescot. The MC of a series of books--around 30. He was probably inspired by John Carter of Mars. Same type of adventures...
quote:The King was killed somewhere along the line and Dray became Emperor even though he didn't spend very much time ruling, he was always out having fun in other parts of Kregen.
Originally posted by rcmann:
I am amazed. I thought I was the only person on earth who still remembered the Kregen series. I could never find more than seven or eight in my local library or book stores when they were being published, either. But they were better than Burroughs in my opinion.
Did Prescott ever get around to horsewhipping that father-in-law of his? The king who ordered him beaten when he showed up at the palace?
quote:Thank you.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instagram
quote:Oh wow...I'm usually first,
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
January 3rd, 2014, and I'm claiming the first sighting of the year of the cross-dressing Statue of Liberty. One of 'em was out there this morning.
quote:How did the dream make you feel?
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
I had a dream recently. I think it was dystrophia adventure.
quote:There are twitter story magazines, a couple pay some nice money for such short stories. If they still exist that is, I haven't checked recently. A year or so ago I wrote a few stories that were rejected they few magazines I tried.
Originally posted by tesknota:
Yeah, I'm basically using Twitter for news at the moment. I'm trying to do something creative with it, like write ministories or something. =)
quote:We have geese around here. There weren't native to the area but maybe ten, twelve years ago some just decided to settle here. I've never watched them long enough to see how long it takes them to get bored but they do fly all over the place--back and forth--so maybe that is why.
Originally posted by Smiley:
Has anyone ever noticed that geese get easily bored? No? Just me, then.
quote:We have had a couple of good dancers out for a while but they disappear after a while. One guy danced for a pizza chain. The guy was overweight but he still had some good moves. He disappeared for a while but I saw him a couple of weeks ago. Another guy played the electric guitar on one very busy corner for years but I haven't seen him in a few months. Funny thing about him he may have been an ex-rock DJ. Three ex DJs from a long time Rock station are now talk show hosts, one day one was talking a reunion they had for that station and he mentioned Guitar man and how they all knew him. By the context I assumed he meant the guy on the corner. Maybe he finally got another DJ gig.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Oh, I see other people advertizers out on the streets all the time. There's this guy (or maybe girl) on one streetcorner who dances around with a WE BUY GOLD sign. There's this guy (definitely) with a multicolored top hat advertizing a breakfast menu at a restaurant. They're the regulars on my regular routes; I see others when I go elsewhere than the usual places.
(Couldn't decide whether "advertizing" should be spelled with an "s" or a "z." I hate it when this kind of spelling problem grips me. No spell check here, which'd help me catch it.)
quote:They are spending a long time going through the stories they receive. I mean upwards of 200 days. One person who knows a little of what is going on stated that Trevor and his team have other things to do can only spend a small amount of time on the stories. Supposedly the period of time was suppose to decrease as they got used their schedules under Trevor and I think it did for a while but now it seems to be back up to where it was at the beginning.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Speak of the devil...last June (the 25th, actually), I sent a story in to Analog in the traditional manner---printed out, manila envelope, SASE---and have yet to hear back from them. Bothers me, 'cause (1) it leaves an "open" that should be "closed," (2) I don't know whether they're just holding onto it or it's lost somewhere in the mail (and I know how things get lost in the mail), (3) this kind of delay is something I might expect from a lesser magazine, (4) is this a harbinger of the future with the new editor at the magazine, or maybe a change of submission policies, and (5) I've gotten a couple of queries about maybe putting something new on my website, but I was waiting for this one to come back before doing anything about it.
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quote:chuckle
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Maybe the Statue of Liberty guys could loan one of their outfits out...
quote:Awww, I completely forgot to post about my first sighting--might have been the same day as yours.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I'm claiming the first Dancing Statues of Liberty sighting of 2015; this morning, January 9th, two of them, same location. I was half-expecting them last week, but they didn't show.
quote:So far, four in three different locations.
But mine was only one.
quote:Unfortunately, no.
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
But can they wipe the snot off your top lip?
quote:If you really want your Han Solo fix, there's three novels that have been written about him by A.C. Crispin (who I just found out died two years ago). There's another trilogy that technically nestles into that timeline, too, but those books are... not as good.
Originally posted by Mecopitch:
I must be a prophet... Now to see if I can profit from it.
quote:I like the discovery process that you get from flipping through pages too, but you should also give systems based on Stanford's Wordnet project a look. Wordnet is the largest and most up-to-date word database in the world.
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
Just went and splurged $75 on a thesaurus. Why, you ask?
Well, I'm old school and I like flicking through pages in a book,
He works with the developmentally disabled. Right now the site he works is so understaffed he's stuck working 12 hour days every day until they can train somebody, which probably means he'll still be doing that next week when we have our wedding anniversary. This will be the second year anniversary of our marriage, and the second year he's had to work overtime on said anniversary.quote:Sounds almost fun If it wasn't frustrating, potentially dangerous and making you late.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Driving in heavy snow is tricky. I went through a whole winter of stop-and-skid before being [forcibly] relocated to Florida. There were times when my car would climb part-way up a hill and then slide back to the bottom.
quote:I imagine so, but it's no great hardship (but no great thrill) to delete what I don't want to read.
There should be, hidden somewhere deep within the junk e-mails, an unsubscribe link.
quote:And it happens more often, I think, through internet communication than through in-person communication, though it happens in all kinds of communication.
Originally posted by extrinsic:
A recently discovered to me irony of communication is it intends clearer understanding and is interpretable as misunderstood or incompletely understood in many circumstances.
quote:Wow. Metalepsis. Fabulous.
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
And as to Windows I don't know how Ten works since I don't do Windows.
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quote:My husband and I have never actually done the cards/flowers thing for Valentines Day. We usually give each other tabletop roleplaying books or some similar manner of gaming accessory, maybe go out to eat and that's about it. Then again, we're both a wee bit abnormal and we understand each others' particular brands of crazy.
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
Valentines Day: Hallmark is still making a mint of it. Damn it, where's my Tommy-gun?
Phil.![]()
quote:And what could be better in a relationship than that?
Originally posted by Disgruntled Peony:
Then again, we're both a wee bit abnormal and we understand each others' particular brands of crazy.
quote:Good success to you.
Originally posted by Disgruntled Peony:
My store manager's last day was yesterday (she's going into marketing) and I'm interviewing for the position tomorrow.
I have all the butterflies in my stomach. ALL OF THEM.
quote:It's been so long since I actively watched Star Trek that I had to break out my 'How to Speak Klingon' book. XD I might have to rectify that at some point.
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
Qapla' Disgruntled Peony.
Phil.
quote:Hunh, that's weird. Computers are silly sometimes.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Seemed something in their posting software didn't like my website info---professional rivalry?---but omitting it let me post again. I was starting to wonder if someone had locked me out without telling me...
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This definitely makes a dream journal seem worth it.
quote:Talented there to break a rib when something lands on your ankle.
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
Dropped a motorcycle on my ankle this afternoon; hurts like 'ell. Guess I'll be hobbling along helpin Mr Dillon as much as I can; bein wounded an' all.
Phil.
a.k.a Chester (for the time being)
Just blew my nose; add a broken rib or two to the list. Pretty sure it's just one, but it still hurts when I cough.
(I spent most of the holiday working, but got to eat afterward. Going to work again now.)
I'd like to see some of your woodwork sometime, if you're amenable.
quote:I saw that kinda of late today
Originally posted by telflonmail:
Happy National Science Fiction Day
quote:Well, it was what would have been Isaac Asimov's ninety-seventh birthday.
Happy National Science Fiction Day
quote:
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
110F in the shade today, but only 30% humidity. Heaven.
Phil.
No me gusta.
quote:That's a lot of editing to do in one to two days. O_o Good luck!
Originally posted by extrinsic:
The wee early a.m.s and waiting for the last part of a four hundred page job to arrive, expedited delivery due overnight on my end, due tomorrow close of business at the other end. The editing job is a med-mal suit and tedious and striking for the cross talk and subtext. The two adversaries have a nose altitude act that's a tense duel. Noses cross swords at face-to-face distance.
In the meantime, I got given antibiotics and a couple pieces of paper on the subject. I've continued to experience intermittent pain, but it's slowly getting more manageable. I think. (No helping the stress right now. Another coworker of mine is in the hospital until Tuesday, so I've been scrambling to get shifts covered.)
My husband and I have been trying for awhile. We're super excited, and I wanted to let you all know.
quote:Congrats to you both and may things go smoothly
Originally posted by Disgruntled Peony:
I'm pregnant!My husband and I have been trying for awhile. We're super excited, and I wanted to let you all know.
quote:I'm halfway through a low residency MFA program at Lesley University in Cambridge Massachusetts. Let me know if you'd like my opinion of their program and professors. Also, my father also warned me against an english degree two decades ago. He said all I could do with an english degree was teach, so I got a degree in biology instead. I've been teaching it to high schools students for 16 years now. Ha!! Got with your gut. If you want to study writing, do it. You only get one turn on this ride, after all.
Originally posted by Disgruntled Peony:
I've been feeling the need to go back to school, lately. It seems a better alternative than continuing in retail. Try as I might to talk myself into a "better career move", I've read over all of the degree options offered at University of Michigan and the one that appealed to me the most is an English degree. My inner writer is trying to claw its way out.
My mom warned me against an English degree when I was young, but when I confessed my interest to her this week she was much more supportive. Whatever I end up doing, I need to look into grants and loans.
quote:Indeed
Originally posted by tesknota:
Side note to the deadly sins: I've been listening to The Fellowship of the Rings, and I kept thinking "PRIDE! PRIDE!" when Boromir started talking to the council at Rivendell...
quote:I started trying to figure this out, but it's been too long since I read the books or watched the movies, so I couldn't piece it together without extensive research. Unfortunately, I do not have time for that right now.
Originally posted by extrinsic:
Which moral traits, vices and virtues, then for Frodo, Samwise, Gandalf, Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn? Note, seven for the heroes' ensemble cast if Borimir counts. Smeagle? Antagonist?
I know exactly how bad an idea it is to quit a job without having something else lined up, but it seemed preferable to having to mention I've been fired to every company that asks. I'm putting in applications to all sorts of jobs and will continue to do so. I just can't keep doing this anymore. The manifestations of stress have become physically painful and emotionally traumatic.quote:That last is good even though frustrating
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Had to change the registry on a car recently, from my (late) father to my mother. (I have my mother's power of attorney.) Took two days, and on the first day they told me I needed something I didn't have and, as it worked out, didn't need.
quote:shouldn't that be mailspam ??????
Originally posted by extrinsic:
The malspam tapered off this summer. Haven't received an attack email since mid August. Six months of assault done because the So-and-sos lost interest!?
quote:Rereading for me reveals further contexture from greater appreciation of content. New and deeper appreciation comes from enhanced learning due to cognitive leaps caused by prior and related content grasp brought to rereads. It's cumulative, part of personal growth.
Originally posted by tesknota:
The silver lining to losing power is that I've been reading OSC's "How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy" again for the first time in many years. Every time I read it, it feels like I'm learning everything anew. Maybe that means I'm bad at retaining information? =)
quote:Good!
Originally posted by tesknota:
I'm alive and well! Traffic's taken a turn for the worse though; two major highways have closed down (or something like that), and my 1 hr commute to work has nearly doubled.
It's not looking great for Florida now though...
I agree, extrinsic! I just don't appear to get around to rereading things as much as I'd like.
quote:I think it really depends on the editor and how well the story is written.
Originally posted by tesknota:
I'm not sure where to post this, so I suppose this goes here, even though it IS writing-related. I didn't think this would warrant a whole discussion, but it's a thought I wanted to put somewhere...
I remember that Grumpy Old Guy thought of third person as a superior to first person as far as writing goes, so I kind of took this as an opinion shared by a good segment of the publishing industry. But just now, looking over the current issue of Clarkesworld (issue 132, Sept. 2017), I noticed that 4 out of their 7 total published works (fiction category) were in first person.
Now I'm revisiting my earlier thought that the industry slightly frowns on works in a first person POV...
quote:That sounds... less than pleasant. I would be crawling up the walls.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I've been impacted by Irma. I've been without internet access for five days, and right now am working from my mother's house and there's no air conditioning. My house has air conditioning, but lacks cable, phone, and internet. More as warranted.
I hope that the lack of connectivity is the worst of what you're dealing with, though. *big hugs*
quote:According to an agent, editor, and publisher consensus, as much anecdotal and apocryphal as stated, first person's commonest shortfall is lack of character development. Second, though a more pertinent shortfall for publication aspirants, is narrator identity establishment, as well common to aspirant third person selective omniscient and detached narrator narrative points of view. The viewpoint persona and the alter-id narrator of such are lumps on logs, mere pass-throughs, as if only emotionless and pointless machine recorders. No attitude about the subject matter of the moment or overall. Third person close, limited, though, does entail an unidentified and unestablished narrator persona, near if not altogether invisible.
Originally posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury:
A lot depends on how well the story is written. An author who can overcome the disadvantages of first person and write a story that works, can certainly go ahead and use it.
First person tends to be the POV of choice for new writers, and because they don't know how to overcome the disadvantages, it is frowned upon.
I have asserted in the past (and continue to do so) that Stephanie Meyer's Twilight books would have been better if she had not written them in first person - Bella would have certainly come across as a more sympathetic character to some readers, at any rate.
quote:Been there, done that, a few dozen times. Now have a better-than-somehow-eek-out-the-time-until-utilities, etc., are restored kit. Mi-fi would not help Conchs, though; Irma took out cell towers across the lower state, too. AC? If I have ice, I have AC -- DIY shop-made AC system that cools okay on a small battery-powered fan. 900 amp hours of backup power, enough for a few or so days' electrical backup. Then recharged from, say, the car or a kindly neighbor's generator or -- next on the wish list -- solar power cell.
Originally posted by Disgruntled Peony:
quote:That sounds... less than pleasant. I would be crawling up the walls.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
I've been impacted by Irma. I've been without internet access for five days, and right now am working from my mother's house and there's no air conditioning. My house has air conditioning, but lacks cable, phone, and internet. More as warranted.I hope that the lack of connectivity is the worst of what you're dealing with, though. *big hugs*
quote:Good you are back on line Robert
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Cable-phone-internet came up at my house shortly after; I've spent the afternoon catching up here and there. I suffered, but hardly as bad as others have, and certainly as others are.
quote:Retail doesn't care. XD
Originally posted by tesknota:
Glad to hear that you're okay, Robert!
LDWriter2, isn't it too early for Halloween stories? It's not even October yet. =)
quote:For laptop backup power supply, consider a four-in-one jump starter: the jump pack itself, an on-board power inverter that converts 12 v DC to 120 v AC, plus a cigarette lighter socket for 12 v DC power takeoff, and usually an air pump and work light. Five-in-one models also provide a USB device charger (0.7 to 2.1 amps, 5 volts). Jump starter 120 v AC output 4 ~ amps, or 200+ ~ watts, enough for an average laptop's power consumption and, dependent on jump pack's amp hour rating, good for a week or so of uninterrupted backup power. On-board jump pack recharger included, plugs into a live household socket. Price range high $$ to low $$$. Anymore, an essential for uninterrupted connectivity in this electricity-insistent Digital Age.
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
quote:Good you are back on line Robert
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Cable-phone-internet came up at my house shortly after; I've spent the afternoon catching up here and there. I suffered, but hardly as bad as others have, and certainly as others are.
When I am offline I don't worry about as much as some. My wife has her crafts so she needs to be online but I would be writing anyway. But without electricity that would be hard-hopefully my laptop would be charged at least for a day or three. But if I had paper and pen I would probably write anyway.
Of course if I had stories out or a political comment to address I would feel differently.![]()
quote:This... hurts my brain.
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
Hey you all know that you can now give out cans of soda for Halloween???
At least one soda company has made smaller cans for that purpose evidently.
quote:Read the cans. My wife agreed with me on this. But she likes the size for other reasons.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Wasn't sure what those were for, but I was pretty sure they weren't for that. They don't satisfy my thirst, though.
quote:It's really hard to translate an internal sensory experience to a purely visual one--or vice versa, for that matter.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Yeah, the books are never that much like the movies.
quote:Plus, except for voiceover gimmicks, no narrator commentary (emotional attitude [tone]) shown, nor summary and explanation tell.
Originally posted by Disgruntled Peony:
quote:It's really hard to translate an internal sensory experience to a purely visual one--or vice versa, for that matter.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Yeah, the books are never that much like the movies.
quote:Wondering if anyone would leave Happy Thanksgiving wishes. I do so too even though they will be late for some of you all
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Happy Thanksgiving, all.
quote:Thank you, and same to you, Robert.
Originally posted by Robert Nowall:
Happy Thanksgiving, all.
quote:Yes. Estimates for one run $$$ to $$$$. Bought a full-spectrum lightbulb for the workstation overhead lamp, in other words, a grow light for indoor plants. Mid $. Am I an indoor plant!? We'll see if effective when the next lab panels are done mid-spring. Meantime, see more wintertime sun, too. The doctor isn't overly panicked, nor I.
Originally posted by LDWriter2:
extrinsic, would a sun lamp help?
quote:They are called tech zombies or phone zombies
Originally posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury:
I heard someone refer to the addiction you speak of as the "true zombie apocalypse," and I wonder if they might have been correct.
quote:Hmm does that mean there is a monster or screen sitting on a couch at your house?
Originally posted by extrinsic:
Some Thing, some Groot, m-mostly M-M-Max Headroom couch -- couch -- couch potato.
quote:Go for broke? A lightbulb joke interpreted as a full-blown dramatic narrative, lightbulb and similar motifs, say, camera personifications, has yet to be done in print or motion picture. A lightbulb true-crime and political intrigue noir satire strikes me as ripe for publication success.
Originally posted by walexander:
Thanks, E. It took away a little boredom.
quote:Not to be contrary for contrariness's sake, several audience target considerations; "preach to the choir," so to speak, sermonize to the congregation, express persuasive appeals for personal social reform and maturation purposes to the as-yet unrepentant. Though I target one reader, the latter is my true target motivation, meantime, capture the former audiences, too, and each by and through the others.
Originally posted by Jack Albany:
I also seek a single reader; yet representative of many similar to me.
quote:As you probably know there are two ways to change the Constitution. By amendment and by a special states convention. You might be interested in learning that there is a movement to have that special meeting of states. I should know the name of it, but I apologize for my poor memory today. Anyway, some states have already said they would join in. Personally I would be surprised if it happens but it is creeping onward.
Originally posted by walexander:
The US constitution needs a rewrite and update for the 21st century.
The selective service does not allow you to bring your own weapons, but they will be happy to supply you with a uniform and gun when you are drafted or volunteer.
The notion of personal weaponry needed in the modern age is based on the break down of civilization or personal self-defense against hostile citizens - gangs, serial killer, rapist, disgruntled employee, domestic violence, but odds are you won't have your weapon at the time they do because they pick soft targets to victimize. Evil doesn't choose a fair fight.
I'm neither for nor against the right to bear arms or the second amendment. Just stating the facts on the matter. No politics implied.
@E. Were they using the hyphen in the 18th century?
quote:Thank you Been too long since I looked for that,
Originally posted by extrinsic:
Post publication notices at "Hatrack Writers - Publications & Reviews."
quote:Hmm, I have had high cholesterol but the last couple of years it has gone down. I have no idea about my Vit D levels. My blood calcium could be up, I am not sure if they checked that even though I could look. More sun. Hmm, I do excise but inside. Plenty of sunshine here the last few months-as every year at this time-and I am out in it for portions of the day. Some days more.
Originally posted by extrinsic:
Low mean platelet volume (MPV) is also a sign of low vitamin D, high cholesterol, and high blood calcium levels, each due to low sunlight exposure. One sure sign of the condition is hives-like skin spots, especially on the back, chest, and thighs' flesh.
I am borderline anemic, too, take iron supplements as well as B12, and others. My metabolism cycles seasonally due to low wintertime sunlight exposure. Lately, though, have realized the greater, multiple benefits of a twenty-minute one-mile walk in t-shirt and shorts: sunlight, low impact exercise, cardio stability, improved digestion, low-distraction meditation. MPV, D, cholesterol, and calcium back into healthy ranges.
Wintertime? Huh, have to show skin to the sunlight at least ten percent for twenty minutes per day every day!
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Best wishes for safe sanctuaries to all under hurricane Florence's pall.
quote:The old standby hereabouts is raw peeled potato absorbs excess salt -- like a sponge.
Originally posted by Grumpy old guy:
If you find your soy dipping sauce is too salty add the mearest rumour of sesame oil. For added complexity, try a whiff of honey as well. Who needs a chemistry set?
Phil.
quote:For me. It's all about time. Between writing, work, and trying to get out and breathe fresh air. Very little time left. My friends have been twisting my arm to start dating again, and I tell them the same thing, no time. relationships require time and money investment. I have other goal priorities right now. They don't get it, of course. they're all part of that idi*t crowd that believes that anyone now can write a book and through it on amazon. It's not hard, they say. drives me crazy.
Writers of the Future is still going. I was wondering why there hasn't seemed to be any interest in it lately.