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MartinV
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Is it my turn already or is someone left?
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I believe we have Bobbyshane next, then we'll start over with you, Martin.

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quote:

Mauve sounds good to me. I think of a person with a sobriety about them, it feels a bit weightier than Sierra which sounds slightly flighty to me (which is odd because the Sierra mountains are not flighty).

Took me a while to respond but thanks for the comments everyone.

The other day I thought of a completely different name that seemed to fit better but forgot it already.

How about Lightning??? That wasn't it but it would almost fit her.

And the Sierras aren't very flighty even though they are not as weighty as the Rockies

[This message has been edited by LDWriter2 (edited February 27, 2011).]


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MartinV
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Not to be a pain but it's Monday evening and we are suppose to send our chapters on Sundays. Bobbyshane, please post your first chapter.
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Hi

not well this mnth. will comeback later

Smiley


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I'd like to jump in this if I can.

Fantasy setting. My own little world > . Only two species: Dragons and humans. Dragons aren't introduced early though.

1st Chapter is 2275 words.
2nd Chapter is 3788 words.

I will work hard on getting the next few chapters done. I already have them in mind just need to type it out.


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Where did everybody go?
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Martin's chapter 2 should have been back to him this past Sunday.

(Martin, I'll have for you soon.)

Louis is up next. Bright Lights & Chaos - chapter 2.

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MartinV
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I was wondering the same thing. So far I haven't received a single review. I assumed people were busy so I waited.
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Is my turn now or next Sunday?

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Your turn 2 days ago.

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Martin, I must have misplaced it because now that you mention it I remember receiving something but when I went through my stories Saturday I didn't see it. How I can misplace a file I don't know.


And my chapter is going out tonight, hopefully between 7:30 and 8:15 Pacific Time.


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Martin, I sent you a short crit. As I said it's short but I really don't know if I can say more. I will go back over it again to make sure but it seems to be coming along fine. More about that in my Crit. And some hatrackers might find things I didn't see and won't see.



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And I sent out my Chapter two. If anyone didn't get it I will try again.
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Sweet, I missed you guys! Don't you know how desperate some of us are for fellow writers just rub electronic elbows?

Anyway, looking forward to it LD.

Has Montag been injected into the list? And it seems like it would be helpful to have a full list posted every week. I mean, if we're paying attention to our emails we'll know who just went, look at the list and say "ok, I'm up next."


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I didn't get the story LD.

Also, I didn't know to add Montag to the list. Somehow I missed the post...

LD, send your chapter to the firebat and we'll absorb he into the fold.

Axe


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I've received 1.25 review so far (Louis made a rough review and said he would get back with more.)
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From my point of view it's probably closer to .50 of a review. I don't think I will find a lot to be critical of. We shall see of course when I take a closer look.


But I think this is the fourth story and chapter that I didn't find much I could say. Except with what was done right that is. Either most of you here are improving significantly or I'm slipping in my reading habits.



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MartinV
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You can say what you liked too. Or what you failed to understand.
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It's true, LD, a review/crit doesn't have to be bad. Finding the positive is good too, but in either case for myself, I find I have to lower my squelch if you will.

Like, I'm a pretty tolerant reader. I'll find something that in a story that is the equivalent of a guy in the theater next to me saying something during the movie. The movie is fine, but the guy just reminded me it's just a movie. Or on the flipside, seeing a scene that was just so amazing that I stop to look around like "did anyone else see that?"

So when I review someone else's work, every time I find a speed bump or one of those "wow" moments I stop and write a comment whether good or bad. It's just a matter of training yourself not to ignore those subtley different sounds coming from under the hood. "What was that throbbing sound? Is my engine out of tune? Is the wheel pulling...oh it's not too bad..." then you get used to it and ignore it.

"This writer uses unnecessary prose...well I don't like it, but someone else might" I think that's the most tempting. We don't want to be hard on a writer when it's just our opinion, but the thing is all of their readers will have opinions. He/She can't write for the opinionless writer, and each opinion will come back from a different perspective, we need to help them see what others might see in their writing by being ourselves. Not by giving them the non-opinions of a hypothetical third person.

That's how I approach it anyway, and anyone is free to let me know they'd like less feedback then I give.


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axeminister, The second chapter I sent came back twice. You been busy with E-mail?
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As for reviews and crits. I know that you can say positive or good things about a story. I usually do but with most stories that doesn't take long to type out, even when I point out scenes with good techniques.


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Hotmail isn't working for me write now, so I may be delayed in reviewing. LD, I was going to ask you by email if you had another formatted file for chapter two, I don't have anything that can open a cwk.
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I received one e-mail with that comment about the format. Was that you?

I sent another file with .rtf . If you are having problems you may not have received it


For some reason I attached the wrong file originally, too much of a hurry probably.

Anyone else get the wrong file?


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Well, I got my first crit for my late second chapter but it looks like I'm still having problems getting it sent out to one person, at least one.

[This message has been edited by LDWriter2 (edited March 20, 2011).]


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Martin,
LD replied he got my critique.
Did you get the one of yours I did?

Dr. Bob


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I received four reviews from: Jesse, Louis, Dustin and dr. Bob. Since I don't know which Hatrack name goes to which name, I hope you can recognize yourself. :P
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bump.
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Martin I was going to ask if you got my second more full crit. Even though there wasn't much more in it.

[This message has been edited by LDWriter2 (edited April 03, 2011).]


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I got both reviews from you, Louis.
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My computer's broke so I don't know how I will fare with the reading.
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My computer is fixed. I caught up on my reading so I'm ready to receive new chapters.
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Ok, I feel like I'm talking to myself.

Who's next on the list? I know we didn't get around to me yet.


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You are talking to yourself. =)

There seems to be a few folks who have vanished, but still a few folks who are digging the exchange.

I'll send an e-mail with the active names on it and the order.

If you find yourself missing from the list and want to be back on it, say something in here.

Axe


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quote:

Ok, I feel like I'm talking to myself.

Two things here:
Hey, you're a writer, you sit around all day making up stuff: wonderful, fantastic, sometimes life encouraging, you tell lies for a living and get away with it. Of course you talk to yourself.


And if you are like most people here, um, some people here- well, a small handful of people here you do talk to yourself.



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But I be here and am active. So let's party. With chapters that is.
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I'll send chapter 3 of the Arena today.

Edit: Ok, I've sent chapter 3 to Dustin, rfinegold, Jesse and ldwriter2. If anyone's missing, let me know.

[This message has been edited by MartinV (edited April 17, 2011).]


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I've spent my whole life wanting to be praised by people who ignored me and wanted me to change who I was to be in someway useful to their lives that required the world to revolve around them...but finally...finally I am part of the in-crowd.

Jk, none of us are like that. I mean none of us spend our time reimagining...the world...as...hmmm...dang maybe I am one of those people.


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Just wanted to let all the newer Hatrackers know we are still here. We have a group of about five here now, and we exchange a chapter (more or less, of whatever work the writer chooses) each week rotating through the group, then over the week the others in the group perform ritual mutilation to it so that you can take your baby back home to bandage it up.

It is worth it, it forces you to face the flaws in your own work which might put off a potential reader if you're going e-publishing or an editor or agent when they see it.

We're open to more people, but it would really be great if that someone could consistently review other people's work in the week, and on their turn in rotation post promptly on Sundays or near about. So if you'd like to join, contact myself (enigmaticuser/Jesse) or one of the other regulars: MartinV, LDWriter2, axeminister, History.


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So far I received two reviews for Arena chapter 3. It went out to five people so... put your back to it!
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Please forgive me everyone. My life has been turmoil and I have been staggering through it. I must have some important lessons to learn otherwise I doubt it would been quite as difficult. The old saying "stuck between a rock and a hard place" seems very appropriate. I won't bore you with the details, but suffice it to say it has been hard and my writing has suffered to near nonexistence of late. I hope this group hasn't suffered too much in my absence, and I hope it will continue without much support from me.

Please continue to include me on the email list as I won't intrude and may find a moment to critique some of your work from time to time.


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Mike, Life can get that way at times. Whatever is going on, my sympathies on being in that spot. I know it's hard. But coming out the other side many times is better. Not does you know what happens but Grace happens too.

The rock and hard place makes a nice title for a UF book though.


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Take your time. We all have hard moments.
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Hi people,

Wow, this is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for! I see you're open to new members and I'd be really keen to join--the only problem I see is I'd hate to start critting someone's novel half way through the thing so I think if I can join that I'll be playing catch up for a little while though I reckon I'd soon be able to catch up with the crits.

As for my own novel; it's dark fantasy and I'm currently into chapter 7 (22 thousand words)


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I sent out my 3rd round yesterday. Let me know if it wasn't received.

Mike, it's no problem. Hopefully you can get the roller coaster to slow down a bit for a while.

Wonderbus. Maybe what you can do is simply read the first few chapters to get caught up, then crit only the newest chapter? That way you don't have a mountain of crits to climb. If that sounds OK we can throw you in the mix.

We're trying to max out at around 5k words on chapter exchange, so if you have 7 into 22 then that sounds OK.

Axe

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Thanks axeminster, sounds good. Everybody can feel free to send me their stuff whenever they like.

And if anybody does want some comments on earlier chapters that'll be no problem at all; just let me know when you send the chapters over.


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I'm up this week so I'll send over mine.
There's one tweak I want to put in, so it will be tomorrow.

I'll send out a global e-mail now to get everyone back in the loop.

Axe


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Thanks everyone,

LDWriter2, R&HP will not a title for another novel, but a title for a part of my story. My main character will be stuck in a mining prison...when he tries to escape he finds the prison is...in space. "Rock and a very hard place", any takers?

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MikeL, that actually sounds like an interesting story. Maybe the prison guards didn't even know they were inside a rock? Maybe it was like City of Ember and that was all they knew? So he's not just a free man, he's the only free man.
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Fourth circle begins, it seems. I've already send the fourth chapter of Arena to you. If I forgot anyone, let me know.
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