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Meredith
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I'm in the process of trying to get the house picked up and cleaned up. Let it go too long, darn it. When I let things become a project, like this, I figure I might as well go all the way. So as I go around I fix up all the little things that build up around an old house. Fix the broken chair. Frame and hang that picture that's been sitting for a year waiting for me to get to it. That kind of stuff.

Well, I got to the hallway. Bookcases. Five of them. Specifically, bookcases that mostly contain the books I haven't gotten around to reading. Stacked and piled, sometimes two-deep on the shelves. Or next to the bookcase where there wasn't any more room. Not in any kind of order. If you're looking for something, you might have to look at all five bookcases to find it.

Okay, something that needs to be fixed. First step, catalog the books so I can see what I have and how to organize it. I've done two bookcases so far--165 books. A few are referece, but most are novels, mainly fantasy and sf, most that I haven't read. G. R. R. Martin, S. M. Stirling, OSC, Greg Bear, Guy Gavriel Kay. The unread volumes of The Wheel of Time (Jordan) and The Sword of Truth (Goodkind), because I got tired of both series. Lots of Feist--really lots of Feist.

I've put a moratorium on buying any more books. Unless, of course, I really need it.

Back to cleaning the hallway--and cataloging more books.


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jayazman
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No, never. You can never have too many books. I envy you in having so many books you haven't read yet. I have read all of mine.
Keep them all unless you have read it and don't like it and are pretty sure you will never want to read it again. Then donate it to your local library.

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Yes. If you bury yourself in too much of anything, it'll become clutter and aside from being a hazard and an eye sore the mountains of books will become too intimidating to dig through to find what you want. Trust me, I've stayed in houses that had more books in them than a common library. If you want an orderly way to store a lot of books without taking up too much space maybe you should try using the Kindle and having a lot of ebooks.
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Natej11
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I agree. You can never have too many books. Moving is easy for me because I have few things to pack up and go. Except for about 20 boxes of books. My sister is the same; she's practically got a library going.
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I think that it is perfectly possible for people to have too many books. My parents, for example, have about 200 books and that is too many. Why? Because they aren't books my parents 1) need 2) read or 3) even remember having.

By contrast, I stopped counting the number of books I have when I hit the thousands (I now measure my book collection in feet of shelf space). Of all my books I have 2 books which I have two copies of (signed and unsigned) and 1 book I have not read. Anything that I am never going to read again is long gone and the things I've kept are my favorites, the series that I re-read when new volumes come out, and books that have something study-worthy in them (either as good or bad examples).

So, is it theoretically possible to have books you don't need and should get rid of? Yes. But is there some absolute number of books after which you can declare: I've got too many! Absolutely not :-)


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Meredith
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There is at least one way in which it's possible to have too many books. I've found at least half a dozen cases where I bought the same book twice. I either forgot I already had it or couldn't find it.

High time to get them organized so that doesn't happen again.


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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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Oh, yeah! I hate it when that happens (unless I've done it on purpose, of course).

I have paperback and hardback copies of a few books (such as the Harry Potter books), and there are certain books I will snatch up at used bookstores if I find them (in case anyone wants to know, these include EXCALIBUR by Sanders Anne Laubenthal, MOONWISE by Greer Ilene Gilman, A VISION OF LIGHT by Judith Merkle Riley, A WIND IN CAIRO by Judith Tarr, PERFUME by Patrick Susskind, REPLAY by Ken Grimwood) because they are books that I like to give to people to read.


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As soon as I invent the pocket universe space will no longer be an issue. It is a sad thing to have no more space for the books you have, I mean the books you love. I really like those "take a book leave a book" shelves, sadly I take more than I leave.

For me I want a huge library, my dream home has a library in it with access from my office. I hold on to books I want to still be around in the future, for my children, grandchildren and any other waffle-cone eaters they may fall upon.


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Robert Nowall
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I have no idea precisely how many books I have in my house...I used to keep a running list total of my SF paperbacks, but quit after two thousand...and that was, oh, twenty-five years ago.

Right now, I'd say it's somewhere 'round ten thousand books. I've got the money and I like to read...they've long since spilled out of the bookshelves I have and are piled up here and there on the floor...someday you may read a story headlined "Florida Man Crushed to Death by Books / Didn't Know When to Quit Buying / (Fate Reminiscent of Collyer Brothers)."


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Natej11
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I often buy duplicates of books if I'm at DI or another thrift store and it's a book I really like. That way I can loan it out or, if I happen to lose one I can have another. I probably have about 3 or 4 duplicates of each LOTR book.
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Good ideas on those dupes - save them (assuming they're of books you actually enjoyed) and give them to others, help make a sci-fi fan by introducing them to a good book!

I have gazillions of books (no, never counted.) It's become much worse when I became acquainted with the library used book sale. I can support my library (the funds generated are used for acquisitions) and I can pad my own personal library.

Now that I have children, I *also* collect books for them. And, as it turns out, I have an incredibly hard time parting with them, although with the youngest really reading on her own now, I can start skimming out the easy readers that I kept just as stepping stone books, not caring for them much. However, the picture books, those are part of my life/baggage for ever now, or until the kids grow up and have homes of their own that they want to infest with books. My almost 8 year old, who is an exceptionally good reader (he's read upwards of 3k pages this summer of novels, Ranger's Apprenctice, Magic Thief, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, etc.) has been pulling picture books down the last few days as his preferred reading (I think he needs a break from the Ranger's Apprentice book he's reading, it's a bit heavy on description and I think he's a little fatigued, LOL) - so I really can't ever part with them.

Oh, except for the ones that I intensely dislike because they're dumb stories. Those I part with.

But yeah, between my book piles for myself (1/4 of which are unread because I keep getting new loaners from the library rather than reading my own. What i need is a natural disaster to keep me homebound for 2 weeks which would force me to read these books) and the book piles for the kids...well, we need bigger bookshelves.


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Robert Nowall
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Duplicates, duplicates...well, naturally, I've got a few. I've bought later editions of Heinlein and Asimov and Clarke and other Classics of the SF Genre, hardcovers and trade paperbacks to replace my battered old and relatively inaccessible regular paperbacks. I've bought so-called "corrected" texts ("Lord of the Rings" falls into this category, I'd say.) Replacements for favorites I've clean worn out (I've bought five or six copies of Bruce Catton's "The Coming Fury.") A lot of the "political" stuff I read comes out in paperback with "extra added material" and sometimes I'll pick one of 'em up to get that.

And sometimes I pick up a title thinking I don't have it, and on opening it up at home I discover I already do.


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Ah, the old "I will NOT buy any more books until I've read the stack I already bought" vow. Usually followed by "and this time, I really mean it." How many times have I broken that vow? As many times as I have made it (which is a lot). My wife and I have banned ourselves from bookstores because we are not capable of practicing self control. "I'll just pop into half-price books and see if they have this one book" invariably turns into "That will be $63.25, sir."

And no, it is not possible to have too many books. My dream is to one day have a library in my house like Henry Higgins' in "My Fair Lady"...multiple stories, rolling wooden ladders, giant globe, overstuffed leather chairs in front of an ornate fireplace, the whole deal.

Of course, good luck fitting that into my 1100 square foot house.


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MrsBrown
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Yes, its possible. My husband and I got rid of about half our books when we prepared to move cross-country (painful), and still had 20 boxes of them to load on the truck. There have been maybe one or two titles that I've since regretted selling to the used-books dealer, but its only a small regret. There are plenty more books in the world.

We are more discerning now in choosing which titles to purchase; the library can meet most of our recreational wants. We are acquiring books for our son, about to enter 1st grade at home. Curriculum is expensive!


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The most valuable books I own are math textbooks and reference books. Everything else I am just as happy to check out from the library to avoid the clutter.
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Meredith
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quote:
there are certain books I will snatch up at used bookstores if I find them (in case anyone wants to know, these include EXCALIBUR by Sanders Anne Laubenthal

That is one of the books I have found on my shelves. I guess I'll move it up into the read soon category--just as soon as I get that organized.


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Rommel Fenrir Wolf II
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The only thing that is possible is having duplicates of books. That just takes up space. Or books that you really hated.

Ex. I hated Jane Eyre with a passion. For some GODS unknown reason someone gave me a copy for Christmas a few years ago. I thou it in the fire right after undraping it.

My point being depends on you.

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Robert Nowall
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Another sort of duplicates...when I'm on the road in one of my twice-yearly vacations, I'll pick up (usually) a trade paper edition of something I enjoyed in hardcover, and read it again.
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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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I'd be interested to know what you think of it, Meredith.
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Having lots of books isn't bad. Not knowing what books you have or not cataloging them is, because you don't know what you've got. It also depends om your reading habits. If I know I won't read a book again, I will dispose of it. If it's a book I will, I keep it.

This has kept our book collection from growing exponentially. My wife never rereads books. So, the books she buys are the first to go when the semi-decade book clearing out exercise takes place. I've just started going through my books again to re-order them. I've got three folding banquet tables in my basement filled with hard copy and paperbacks in some kind of order.

I'll group them by author in boxes. Then when I need some reading material, I know where to look. The library is nice, but they no longer carry some books I like to re-read... for example: all but a few of Jack Vance's novels of which many are now out of print.


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I've had 3 copies of McCammon's Boy's Life. I had to replace them when I--or those I'd loaned them to--read them to tatters.

There are other books I buy multiples of to get a 1st edition Hardback and a reading (paperback) copy.


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Robert Nowall
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I just bought, oh, I think, my fourth copy of Heinlein's The Puppet Masters that I know of...and I'm somewhat less fond of that one of Heinlein's than others. New afterward...I think with the posthumous corrected text, also, but I'm not sure 'cause I haven't gotten around to reading it.
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Meredith
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Well, I finished the book I was reading (DEEPWOOD by Jennifer Roberson) and started EXCALIBUR. I'm in chapter five. I have to say that so far I'm not impressed.

I decided to post this now because I'm not sure how much farther I'm going to read. If the book weren't so short, I'd have stopped already.

My impressions so far: (Spoiler alert if you haven't read the book and intend to.)

She had an idea for a good story. It’s a pity she didn’t tell it.

I winced every time they told each other legends that they all already knew.

I almost stopped reading in chapter three when Rhodri just turned around and said, “I’ll tell you the truth. I’m the Pendragon and we’re looking for Excalibur.” Excuse me. He’s known this woman for maybe two days. The man does not know how to keep a secret. The issue of the Pendragon had just been brought up and Rhodri had made an interesting answer. Couldn’t we have been given a chapter or two to wonder before the revelation? Couldn’t there have been a slightly better reason for the revelation?

It was the same way with them “falling in love”. They’ve known each other maybe three days. Linette says, “I think your girl back home has forgotten you. Aren’t I as pretty as she is?” And all of a sudden they’re in love and forget all about Excalibur. Did anyone ever hear of build up? Sexual tension? And hasn’t either one of them, including the one who claims to be descended from him, read the Arthur legend? Don’t they remember what caused his fall?

And Linette bothers me. Either she has second sight, like her great grandfather, or she doesn’t. It seems to me that by twenty-five she would have had some indication of it. And she’s always thinking about what she doesn’t want to do, how she doesn’t want to end up. As an MC, I’d like to see her do something about it--other than sit around being discontented or trying to seduce the Pendragon. If you can even call that seduction.

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Rommel Fenrir Wolf II
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I am thinking about starting a crusade against bad books, who’s with me?

We shall form a council and decide what constitutes a bad book then go about eliminating them.

Then again this can be a result of the drugs I am on at the moment.

Rommel Fenrir Wolf II


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Meredith
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One person's bad book is another person's treasure.

And some of these things probably wouldn't have bothered me a year ago.

Linette still would have, though. I like my MC's a little more active/decisive.


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OK Meredith, your review made me want to post this one also.

The Immortals by Tracy Hickman

Let me start out by saying I haven't finished it yet, and I don't know if I will. I'm trying to get through it so I can give the whole story a fair shake. So far, I'm not impressed.

The prologue has been the most interesting part so far. I haven't figured out a reason to include chapter 1. Chapter 3 or 4 (I can't remember which right now) was one big info dump, and not handled very well. So far there have been 3 entire chapters dedicated to 3 different people that have not shown up again.

If I hadn't have gotten this for free, I would be demanding my money back. As it is, I'm thinking of contacting Mr. Hickman to ask for some kind of recompense for the time I've spent on it.


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Meredith
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I'm officially giving up on EXCALIBUR. I made it half way through, but I'm not wasting any more time.

There's not a character that I really care about or can identify with. Linette is too weak and indecisive. And I do not understand why anyone would make her the POV character in this, since she's purely peripheral to the quests--a hanger-on.

Spoiler alert:

The relationships between the characters are barely given what my grandmother would have called a lick and a promise. It's impossible to figure out some of these characters with the lack of information we're given. Anthony is in love with Linette. Linette has turned from Anthony to Rhodri. Anthony is still perfectly willing to be friends with Rhodri. Either Anthony is a saint or there's a piece of information missing somewhere. Yes, I know he thinks that he may have to give Linette up for his quest. But, if he loves her, it can't be just that easy. In fact, if it's a sacrifice he's making for his quest, it shouldn't be that easy.

The idea that some Welsh prince brought Excalibur to America and started a Welsh colony near Mobil, Alabama three centuries before Columbus was difficult. But I was willing to go that far.

The idea of intersecting quests for Excalibur and the Grail was interesting, though. I really wish that had been developed better. When Anthony sits around wondering how in the world to even start his quest for the Grail, then disappears the next morning because he's started on his quest, there's just a gaping hole left in the plot.

Add Morgan le Fay, still alive and trying to steal Excalibur, what? fifteen centuries later and I started having more trouble. Then Morgause is some disembodied Dark Queen who wants to possess Linette (but apparently only for a short while). Morgause's motivations appear to be whatever the plot needs, without concern for whether they make any sense or not. And Morgan, after all these centuries, doesn't seem to have any idea that her sister isn't trustworthy, even though they worship opposing deities. Really?

The notion that a flirtation that apparently doesn't go any farther than putting a rose in Linette's hair is somehow a betrayal of the girl back home, whom Rhodri has met once and then exchanged a few letters with really started to push it past the point of believability. This flirtation is somehow going to derail the quest for Excalibur? If it's that critical to the plot, you've got to put some meat on it. I'm not saying that it has to go all the way to a steamy sex scene, but there needs to be more than a rose, some indication of attraction and resistance. Probably at least a kiss here and there.

Then, they step into a passageway and find themselves in fairyland--a fairyland that is parallel to Mobil. I'm sorry. I just can't handle any more.

I've got some of OSC's books waiting on those shelves. I'm willing to bet that's a better read. This one goes in the giveaway pile.

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