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Posted by Marva (Member # 3171) on :
 
I've got about 20K words into a novel (or novella, depending). It's space opera style scifi. Here's the opening lines of the first chapter where we meet our main character. I would like feedback just on these lines as an opener. Is it hooky enough? (added this as per Sara's comment).

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Cadet Nyra Hutchings sat grim-faced in the transport. The ship that brought her here had dropped the tiny lander out the airlock. The landing jets on the little vehicle were just sufficient to set down on the airless asteroid without crashing. The light gravity caused the one-person vehicle to bounce several times before coming to rest.

Nyra pulled the scope down and peered in a 360 degree circle around the lander, revealing a bleak landscape of gray rock and dust. She saw the tip of the dome over a rise at 90 degrees, but passed it by to first check the entire surrounding area. Look before you leap was a good motto for any situation when you don't know where the hell you are.

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Posted by Sara Genge (Member # 3468) on :
 
Genre, word count, comments on the first thirteen or readers for the whole thing?
That said, the first paragraph bugged me because three sentences started with "The" and they refered to innanimate objects (ie, description, no characters)
 
Posted by Marva (Member # 3171) on :
 
Thanks, Sara. I'll add this info to the top.

Point well-taken on the first paragraph and lots of 'the's. I might point out the first three words comprise the main character's name and that she's a cadet. There isn't anybody else present. Should I start by describing the characters physical attributes? I do this later in the chapter when she looks in a mirror and it makes more sense (to me).

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Posted by Omakase (Member # 2915) on :
 
The problem I see with the opening paragraph is that the first sentence is disconnected from the balance of the paragraph.
These need to be linked. If she is watching the lander then say so. Right now there is no indication of anything other than her sitting in the transport.

The second paragraph is a bit confusing. She sees the dome and passes by it -- as if it is expected to be there. No indication it is a surprise to her. The next sentence, however, indicates she doesn't know where she is.

These items made the opening difficult to parse, and hence did not hook me.
 


Posted by arriki (Member # 3079) on :
 
Hmmm…my reaction here is that you might do better opening with situational description and leave Nyra’s presence till you get the first idea – a secret landing on an asteroid – fully done. THEN, introduce Nyra.

Make the description more mysterious/secretive with a held breath quality to it since that is far more interesting. Play it up. But don’t lecture. Use active, specific details. Make the reader curious. Leave till later the fact of Nyra being grim-faced in a vague “transport.”

Also – transport, ship, lander, vehicle – a lot of vague terms and it is not absolutely, perfectly clear how many vehicles you are referring to. I think, two. But I could be wrong. You could name the ship and maybe use some designation for the small landing craft. That would help make your references easier to keep track of.

And the “look before you leap” bit was confusing. Hasn’t she already “leaped” in coming down some place she doesn’t know where she is?

 


Posted by Marva (Member # 3171) on :
 
Arriki: Excellent. Just the kind of feedback I want.

I can hold off Nyra until a bit later. An unspecified person landing on an airless asteroid. She's my MC so I don't want to wait too long to introduce her, but she can come after the first 13 lines, I'd think.

Thanks!

 


Posted by Woodie (Member # 3346) on :
 
I don't think you need to wait the full 13 to introduce Nyra--maybe just the second paragraph. I want to know who I'm reading about in the first 13, but I agree that the first paragraph could do very well as an intro to the setting. Also in the first paragraph you might want to make it clear that this space vehicle is lost--so when we meet Nyra we know why she is grim faced.
 
Posted by Novice (Member # 3379) on :
 
I wasn't hooked on this because I don't know why she is "grim-faced." It seems that is your hook...what is she doing on the asteroid, and what is there to be grim about? Should I be able to make some kind of connection between the fact that she is a Cadet, and that she doesn't know where she is?

(Just a small comment to address something you mention later on: The idea of describing a character by having her look in a mirror has been used so often as to almost qualify as cliche. You can slip in what details you feel are important here and there, in reference to the events/actions that make them important. Otherwise, it isn't necessary to provide an in-depth physical description at all.)
 


Posted by Marva (Member # 3171) on :
 
Thanks for the comments. Food for thought.

Novice: I've been nailed so many times for failing to describe my MC that I figured I had to give some description of her somewhere in the first chapter. I suppose it could be worked in and I'll see if I can do that without a big glaring THIS IS WHAT THE CHARACTER LOOKS LIKE!!!


 


Posted by Marva (Member # 3171) on :
 
Here's another shot at it. By cutting some of the extraneous information, I got a whole other paragraph in the 13 lines.

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The tiny lander dropped from the Scorpion's airlock. Landing jets on the little vehicle were just sufficient to set down on the airless asteroid without crashing. Light gravity caused the one-person vehicle to bounce several times before coming to rest.
Cadet Nyra Hutchings pulled the scope down and peered in a 360 degree circle around the lander, revealing a bleak landscape of gray rock and dust. She saw the tip of the dome over a rise at 90 degrees, but passed it by to first check the entire surrounding area.
The final exam from the Academy was real-life and deadly. Some fiendishly clever Board of Examiners thought up these tests and they rarely, if ever, repeated themselves. That prevented cribbing from former cadets who had passed in previous classes.
 


Posted by Ray (Member # 2415) on :
 
Your second paragraph is a better start than your first one is. It's a lot more engaging and easy to get into the story. The other has good information, but I find myself skimming over it to get to the good stuff.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Most asteroids don't have enough gravity for things to really "bounce" on their surfaces (composed of loosely adhered mineral compounds). Also, there is a difference between "deadly" and "dangerous". A final exam that is "deadly" is kind of pointless. One in which the candidate could die is sensible if you're training for something that's unavoidably hazardous.

Those minor points aside, this is a good opening, better than the first version and good enough that I would keep reading.
 


Posted by Marva (Member # 3171) on :
 
Survivor: Good points. I'll change deadly to dangerous. Okay, small moon instead of asteroid will work. Several versions ago, I waffled on that and said "small moon or asteroid" and a critter told me to make up my mind. I guess I made it up the wrong direction.

Thanks.

 




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