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Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
I've a few thousand words at the moment, no title.
There are two central characters and therefore two potential places to start the story. Here's # 1

Rook powered down the Sim after he crashed his Sweetstar again. The antiquated computer core wasn’t able to provide the resources the game demanded of it. The resulting lag occasionally placed obstacles like asteroids or debris in his way with no time to avoid them. But it was just a game. If Dad ever bought a real Sweetstar he'd have had plenty of practice with the simulator, and real life had no lag. There was the additional detail that he’d never actually need to fly through an asteroid field. Stupid game.
His real ship, or Dad’s ship, was a light supply freighter from the Long Thaw Colonie. Her name was Mara and she was the oldest vessel of her class, still in service.
 
Posted by Jennica Dotson (Member # 10221) on :
 
I quite like this, actually. I'm not sure what I'd change, other than a couple very minor word/grammar choices, and those are more to do with my own opinion than any real problems.

I'm interested! If you ever feel like sending your story along, I'd be happy to critique for you.
 
Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
Thank you, Jennica.
I'm not set on the grammar yet, just trying to write in the way a kid thinks.
I'd love to send it along. I'm finishing up a few bits here and there, but I could send you some when I'm at a good place.
 
Posted by Bent Tree (Member # 7777) on :
 
I'm in. I really liked this. Good writing. You had me hooked at "Sweetstar". Don't know what it is, but I want to find out. And that's what its all about.

I like the tension and characterdevelopment. I think you are on the money. I'll give this a read if you need a reader.
 
Posted by Denevius (Member # 9682) on :
 
I'd probably give this story a couple of more paragraphs before deciding to keep reading or not. The prose is a bit on the telly side, with explanations being given to the reader. And a lot is introduced: Rook, Sim, Sweetstar, Dad, Long Thaw Colonie, Mara. But none of it is particularly interesting. It's not exactly uninteresting, but not exactly interesting either.

Overall, I'm left with a feeling of 'Meh'.The only line that really stood out was "If Dad ever brought...and real life had no lag". That last part is well-phrased.
 
Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
@Denevius
I toyed with the idea of the Sim (flight simulator, if you didn't catch that) being the introduction to the story, but it came off like "waking up from a dream" when I went into his turning it off going into the rest of his day.

Nothing ruins a story for me like getting immersed in a visually stunning world and being ripped out of it just when you're getting comfortable.

I'm a big fan of show>tell as well. Just not in every instance.

@Bent Tree, I'd be happy to have you as a reader.

You too, Devenius, always good to have someone on the other side.
 
Posted by Grumpy old guy (Member # 9922) on :
 
There's enough there for me to keep reading, for now. Personally, I found the prose a little too dense (packed with detail), but the freshness and anarchy of youth is clear and present.

One thing, though. I'd wouldn't capitalise sim.

I haven't commented further on your use of grammar because you said you haven't finished tweaking it; the other reason being I pay people to check my grammar 'cos I'm lousy at it most times.

Phil.
 
Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
@Grumpy

I'm definitely not married to the capital S, and grammar isn't my highest skill, either.
 
Posted by JSchuler (Member # 8970) on :
 
My fight or flight reflex is triggered in this opening. Asteroids and debris aren't things that should be popping out of nowhere, even in a laggy space simulator. If you're going for a Flash Gordon/Star Wars-like setting for your story, this is part of the genre. If you're trying for any type of hard sci-fi, it's an issue.

Consider that, in space, there's really no limit to your relative velocity. By the time you could visually identify an asteroid, it could be too late to avoid it. Not that it would be a common occurrence: fly across our local asteroid belt a couple hundred times and you might see one. A realistic simulator would have those asteroids appearing well outside visual range, and wouldn't waste a whole lot of processing power on them. A desktop from the late 90's wouldn't have the problems your sim is having... if you're going for realism. If not, ignore this, but I would play up the genre more in the opening.
 
Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
@JSchuler
I'm using the idea of a lagging "gaming console" because I know it happens.

You can reach a point in script where a switch or variable is triggered, but the triggered event doesn't activate immediately. The game will freeze or stutter, and when it's done "buffering" the event initializes and you're left with a new sprite where you didn't expect it... In this case, an asteroid, or debris...

I just didn't feel like using a technical breakdown of basic game design as part of my intro. Instead, I called it the way a 14 year old kid might see it.
 
Posted by JSchuler (Member # 8970) on :
 
Mecopitch, my point is that if you're piloting a spacecraft in a hard sci-fi universe, you aren't going to be dodging asteroids or debris in the way described. You will be doing all of the maneuvering to avoid the threat when it is tens of thousands or even millions of miles away. By the time it would be close enough for the computer to worry about creating a sprite, it's too late.

Again, though, if your story is more Star Wars than 2001, that's not an issue.

If, however, you want it hard sci-fi and need an issue where the described lag would come into play, a manual docking would be a good candidate. Anything where the computer glitches and so delays your input by a half-second could turn a successful dock into a complete disaster.
 
Posted by Bent Tree (Member # 7777) on :
 
I wasn't put off by any lack of plausibility. I consider myself really sensitive to suspension of disbelief. Even if there were any impossibilities, which I didn't see, the terms "sim" "Stupid game" indicate that this isn't necessarily patterned on logic, perhaps even designed not to be.

Just my thoughts
 
Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
Based on your definitions, it'd be more Star Wars than 2001.

But Bent Tree has it right, flight simulators are just that, games. As a measure of difficulty, the game might add additional obstacles one wouldn't normally expect.

Or Rook could just be a hot shot pilot looking for a challenge.
 
Posted by MiggsEye (Member # 10400) on :
 
I enjoyed this and I would read further. I think the writing has a natural flow and feel. Nothing forced. I like all the names you've selected in particular. The are unique and distinct from each other and don't resort to strange etherial names that so many SF or fantasy fiction stories adopt.

Cheers, looking forward to reading more.
 
Posted by Mecopitch (Member # 10173) on :
 
Thanks, Miggs.
I try to use words in English that can translate to a name or nickname. I love names like "Th'um and "T'pol" as much as anyone, but it's a pain having to figure out what the ' is for.
 


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