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Posted by wetwilly (Member # 1818) on :
 
A few observations on characterization. I don't necessarrily have a point I'm trying to make here, just some scattered thoughts on the subject.

Lost Boys, by OSC. Any writer who hasn't read it needs to. First off, just because it's a good read, but also as a study in effective characterization. I would say this is the quintessential "character" book. The entire book rests almost 100% on characterization. I absolutely loved the book and found it very gripping. It was a book I had trouble putting down. Here's the wierd thing I noticed about it, though. NOTHING HAPPENED. I would say 90% of the book is just a bunch a random, unconnected events in the life of this family. You don't even find out what the main plot is until the very end when the twist is introduced. So how could such a rambling book be so gripping?

Because of the characters. I really cared about the characters, and wanted everything to turn out okay for this family. The conflicts were mostly pretty minor, actually. The husband has a crappy job with a crappy, unethical boss. The teacher is picking on the son. The home teaching companion is crazy. That Glass guy seems like he might be a child-molester. A dozen other subplot threads. Nothing big, nothing that even feels really important, except that you love the characters so much that it's important that they solve these problems and go on with their lives, happy and content.

But you never notice the characterization happening. There are no, "Sit down, reader, and let me tell you about this character," sessions. You just get to know them like you get to know people in real life, by watching them act, react, and interact.

I think that's a big part of effective characterization. I guess it's part of the rationale behind "show, don't tell." In real life, there is nobody narrating everything, telling you things like, "Pablo is a shy, laid-back kind of guy. He doesn't like conflict, and he feels that his sense of humor will help him avoid it," so why say things like that in a story? In real life, we just learn what kind of person we think Pablo is by watching him and interpreting what we see him do and hear him say. It makes sense that the same method would be the most effective way to let the reader get to know characters in a story.

Another advantage to this is that it lets the reader filter a character's actions through his own perceptions, just like he would in real life. Our observations aren't objective. Two people can observe the same action and interpret it into two different opinions of the person. When we let the readers of our stories get to know characters the same way, instead of just telling them what the character traits are, it feels more real. It feels more like a real person, because they got to know them like they get to know real people.

Okay, I'm done. I just thought Lost Boys was a masterpiece of characterization, and it got me thinking of how to achieve that in my stories. Any thoughts on it?
 


Posted by TruHero (Member # 1766) on :
 
No, I haven't read it yet, but had planned to. But thanks for the spoiler just the same.

I have always thought OSC does a great job of characterization. It is one of his strong points.

I will read this book sometime, I just have some stuff I am reading right now. If I put it off long enough, I might forget what you told us about the story and it will all be new to me by then.
 


Posted by kwsni (Member # 970) on :
 
Tru, there ARE no spoilers in that post. Everything you can get from that post you get from reading the first chapter, so chill.

Ni!
 


Posted by Jerome Vall (Member # 1905) on :
 
Yes, a few thoughts on characterization (not on LOST BOYS, which I haven't read).

You said that nothing happened in the story yet you kept reading. You've made a real discovery, and it's the discovery between "movement" and "dramatic action." By "movement," I mean physical movement--moving from place to place and even intense movement of chase scenes and battles. By "dramatic action" I mean that which infuses drama into the story, namely, the process of the unknown becoming known, discovery by the hero and his subsequent decision based on his discovery, and the action that follows.

Consider: a wife drinking coffee from a mug is "movement," but if she happens to find lipstick on her cup that isn't her shade, that's "dramatic action." The unknown (the lipstick) has become known; a discovery has been made. We are held captive, waiting for her decision to either act or not to act. Not having read LOST BOYS, but reading your comments on it, I would suspect that the story is held together by a lot of "dramatic action" as opposed to a lot of "movement."

You're also correct in that effective characterization is not telling the reader about the characters, but showing the reader the characters through their appearance, actions, speech, and thoughts. One of the most dramatic tools writers have is putting conflict between these four methods. You show us that the character looks like a hobo, but then you show us that he enjoys reading French literature in French. The character has suddenly become alive. What happens if by his thoughts we see that he is very much an optimist, but he speaks as a pessimist. Obviously his thoughts are more true than his speech, so why does he want to come across as a pessimist? If he read French literature in French, he's probably well educated, so why does he dress like a hobo? These are questions that can be answered in a variety of ways, but the point is that by putting these four methods in contradiction with one another you've suddenly created a rather complex character. What you do with that will make or break the story.

If LOST BOYS affected you that much, you should go back and study what Card did to make his characters come alive for you. Study the story's dramatic action (not the movement). Look at how he reveals his characters through appearance, action, speech, and thoughts.

And on a personal note, for me the quintessential character writer is Charles Dickens.

[This message has been edited by Jerome Vall (edited February 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by wetwilly (Member # 1818) on :
 
I hear you Jerome. Dickens is the man. I'm actually right in the middle of Nicholas Nickleby right now. He's definitely a master at creating engaging characters.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Actually, I would find a character that read French literature in French and didn't dress like a hobo to be more of a contradiction...
 
Posted by TruHero (Member # 1766) on :
 
you beat me to the punch Survivor!
As a side note. Do the French allow their literature to be published in any other fashion? Those crazy French!
 
Posted by wetwilly (Member # 1818) on :
 
Crap, I can't believe I missed such a great opportunity to rip on french people. I'm really slipping.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Hey, I didn't close the door. We're always open to comments about the French, right?

Darn French, persecuting my ancestors!
 


Posted by Nick Vend (Member # 1816) on :
 
tedious self-important frogs!

this is fun
 


Posted by TruHero (Member # 1766) on :
 
I think the equation can be solved like this:

Hobo + education x French = Pessimism

It's pretty much common knowledge.

 


Posted by Balthasar (Member # 5399) on :
 
So, TruHero, have you actually read any French literature? Leon Bloy? Georges Bernanos? Andre Gide? Francois Mauriac? Paul Claudel? Have you even heard of these men?
 
Posted by Jules (Member # 1658) on :
 
I've never heard of any of those, and I studied French literature for my A level in the language...
 
Posted by Balthasar (Member # 5399) on :
 
You've studied French Lit and have never heard of Gide or Mauriac? Either you weren't studying 20th century French literature or it wasn't a very good class. Those are the two greatest French authors of the 20th century -- the French versions of Hemingway and Faulkner. (You've heard of them, haven't you? )

PS -- I also should have included Honore de Balzac (19th century) to the original list.

[This message has been edited by Balthasar (edited February 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by wetwilly (Member # 1818) on :
 
Okay, Balthasar, nice try, but you're not tricking me. French literature, that's a good one. Everybody knows that's like saying British cuisine, German hygiene, or American tact. The French...man, what a funny joke God played on us all.
 
Posted by TruHero (Member # 1766) on :
 
Call me an Ugly American, But NOPE, and don't care to. Well maybe I've heard of a couple of those guys, Aren't they famous waiters or something?

And, I'll take the American versions of Hemingway and Faulkner any day over the French ones, well Hemingway anyway.
 


Posted by Balthasar (Member # 5399) on :
 
You should at least read Balzac -- the French Dickens.

It's nice to know you like Hemingway. I was thinking about posting 13 of his lines in the newly opened discussion area. After Flannery O'Connor, I think he's the greatest short-story writer of the 20th century.

And I'm a little confused. Exactly who are the American versions of Faulkner and Hemingway?
 


Posted by yanos (Member # 1831) on :
 
I read an Asterix comic once, and the three musketeers... hehehe. Hey to think of it, if it wasn't for the French those Yanks would be British... i knew they were good for something.
 
Posted by TruHero (Member # 1766) on :
 
Hmmmm.... Balzac and Dickens, sounds like a great duo for a sitcom, or perhaps soft porn.

I meant the originals, just another lame attempt at humor, like the above comment.
 


Posted by Jules (Member # 1658) on :
 
Looking up a few of those names (Balzac I recognised, BTW) I see that they're mainly earlier than the work I studied, which was primarily post-war up to 1960s. People like Marcel Pagnol, and others whose names I forget.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Oh, Jules...I'm so sorry. That must have been truly horrible
 
Posted by Jules (Member # 1658) on :
 
It put me right off reading stories about people living in horrible conditions in social housing projects during the 1960s.

But then that's never been my favourite genre anyway...
 




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