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Posted by ambongan (Member # 2122) on :
 
First let me say and emphasise I don't care what anyone's political thoughts are and hope above all to avoid a childish debate, or any debate.

I just wonder how anyone manages to put politics in their writing. I try to primarily avoid it or make it seem generic instead of favoring one current political party.

I'm wondering about writing something more contemporary and fear the politics.

Again, no one wants a political debate, just writing aid.
 


Posted by Phanto (Member # 1619) on :
 
I don't know...

The two methods that come quickest to mind are the following:
a) Characters are in a situation, discussing issues
b) The story is political satire

 


Posted by HSO (Member # 2056) on :
 
Politics can and does cover a whole range of subjects. Still, I don't put any of my own personal politics in a story (at least not consciously), but I do allow for my characters to have political agendas -- or a lack of one, as the case may be. I certainly wouldn't wish to change the world with anything I've written. Making them think -- sure. I leave the political stuff to those who do it best: Politicians.

As corny as it may sound: Do what is right for your characters and plot. If you're going to write a political story, then make it revelant to the characters. Otherwise it's just background information and should be filed as "Oh, so that's what they think, is it?"
 


Posted by Balthasar (Member # 5399) on :
 
Why not do it, so long as your story isn't propaganda or trying to "prove" a political side as more correct than another. By propaganda, it what you see in that movie (which I haven't seen) that just came out about global warming. In it, the man who opposes the scientists is the Vice President of the U.S. who looks a lot like Dick Chaney. Come on, now.

Two way of doing it have already been noted--the characters are talking about politics, or you're writing a political satire. But there are other ways as well.

There's a lot of politics in Heinlein's STARSHIP TROOPER simply because of the subject matter--military and war.

And there's a lot of politics in any utopian and/or distopian society story, because society is governed by politics. See, for example, 1984, BRAVE NEW WORLD, THE DISPOSSESSED.

The list can go on and on. But here's the catch--don't write a politically based story if you're not ready for, or don't want, your ideas attacked. Also, when searching for critiques, make sure you get readers who are mature enough to critique your story, not your political ideology. That's importnat.

[This message has been edited by Balthasar (edited August 18, 2004).]
 


Posted by MaryRobinette (Member # 1680) on :
 
Read Orwell. He's a master at it.
 
Posted by mikemunsil (Member # 2109) on :
 
How about making it the kind of situation where the lead character's world (going along quite nicely as it is, thank you) is destabilized by some event, and the only means your character to make things right is to get politically involved? If the character is the kind of person who really doesn't want to 'do' politics, then the situation could set up some interesting tensions, and you could add some quirky character traits for interest; for example, having your character compulsively wash his hands after doing 'political' things (Thanks, Will!).
 
Posted by shadowynd (Member # 2077) on :
 
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Still, I don't put any of my own personal politics in a story (at least not consciously), but I do allow for my characters to have political agendas

Heh.. as I discovered with the first short story I submitted here for critiquing, even your characters' political beliefs will automatically be assumed to be your own by some, if not most, readers.

I quickly learned not to care about that! If I have a story to tell and it has a political angle, or one that could be interpreted as such, I will tell it regardless.

Who knows, maybe next time I'll write a tale with the opposite view! *g*

Susan
 


Posted by Keeley (Member # 2088) on :
 
I second Mary's motion and will mention a specific book: Animal Farm. 1984, although absolutely excellent, is a hard book to read for the sensitive of heart. But Animal Farm manages to convey the politics without tearing your heart to pieces. And it's interesting fantasy to boot.

I also recommend reading his essay "Politics and the English Language". If propaganda has any place in your world, it's a good essay to keep in mind.
 


Posted by NewsBys (Member # 1950) on :
 
Also, if you decide to include politics, make sure you don't "date" your work. Your work will hopefully be a classic, right? You don't want it to feel dated after a few years. That is unless it is a period piece and the political groups are needed, like a story about WWII, will probably need some mention of Nazis.
 
Posted by Hildy9595 (Member # 1489) on :
 
I assume that you're talking about real-world politics, not the politics of a fictional milieu, right?

If the politics of the characters or of those surrounding the characters are relevant, then incorporate them into conversations, include news bites that they watch, or have people experience the good/bad outcomes of political decisions. If politics don't forward the story, or form a relevant theme, don't feel compelled to fit them in.
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
I don't write contemporary stuff myself. But I do read various things.

One common approach is to have the important characters be "above" partisanship, though not in the sense that politicians are always talking about (which only means that they want the other party to cooperate). Rather, the standard by which these characters judge people has to do with some core value that isn't directly related to the differences between the parties.

Earlier Clancy is both a terrible and great example. His reader-surrogate characters tend to regard things in terms of national security, patriotism, traditional morality, and other values that are very tied to the percieved differences between the parties. But at the same time, he doesn't allow his main characters to ever access that "common knowledge" and betrays expectations about party affiliation being a predictor of allegiance to them. In other words, he has his characters ignore party boundries as being superficial and unimportant, and he does the same by showing party affiliation as being more a matter of political advantage than expression of personal ethics and ideology.

Case in point, here in Utah, everyone is a Republican (well, no, but it can seem that way outside of SLC). That doesn't mean that the city councils aren't packed with big government, tax and spend socialists. It just means that they run as Republicans rather than Democrats. Most Democrats are socially/fiscally conservative individuals who are basically single issue anti-Republicans (like Card). Which is why it is considered non-wacky to register or run as Green or something like that.

The point is that political affiliations are more about getting votes than "displaying your heart on your sleeve". For all that politicians talk about how important it is to vote for their own party, it's a lot more important to get to know the individual for (or against) whom you're voting. Most readers understand this, and so usually you want to have characters that understand it as well.

And if a character doesn't care about politics enough to do more than vote a party ticket, telling us which party ticket doesn't tell us anything much about that character's reasons.
 


Posted by Doc Brown (Member # 1118) on :
 
Survivor, I think Clancy handles politics very well. His characters show that party affiliation have nothing to do with good or evil.

Even though his stories involve a lot of politics he almost never mentions political parties. The only example I remember happens between Clear and Present Danger and The Sum of all Fears. Both Presidents are villains in one way or another, yet the President in Sum of all Fears refers to his predicessor in Clear and Present Danger as being from the "other party."

The reader cannot tell their party affiliation because Clancy doesn't show them making campaign speaches. He does show their inner thoughts, which reveal core motivations. Deep down inside both make choices based on personal whims rather than political ideology. Perhaps Clancy is saying that politicians may speak in terms of political ideology, but they think and act based on their personal agenda.
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Yeah, that's why I said he was a great example. The reason I said he was a terrible example is because 99.9 percent of people trying to imitate him fail miserably.
 


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