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Posted by shadowynd (Member # 2077) on :
 
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Darn it, when I saw this thread I though it was going to be about drinking establishments. I mean, I like a nice country pub with a roaring fire and all that stuff

Ah, that's what I thought the other thread was also. Just for fun, then, let's start a thread for that!

What fictional pub/bar/inn/restaurant would you most like to be able to walk into?

Susan


EDIT: And tell us what work your choice is featured in, too!

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Posted by shadowynd (Member # 2077) on :
 
I'll toss one out, to start. The White Hart, to be able to listen to the tales therefrom firsthand.

Susan

EDIT: from _Tales From the White Hart_ by Arthur C. Clarke

A smidgin (there are many more shorts in the book:

http://books.jayslair.com/acc_whitehart.html

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Posted by Gwalchmai (Member # 1807) on :
 
And when I saw both threads I was trying to work out how one person had managed to double post under two different names!

Anyway, as for fictional pub, I think it would have to be The Rookery on Balaia simply because the Unnkown Warrior is one hell of a hero.
 


Posted by mikemunsil (Member # 2109) on :
 
Taverna Gruff
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Honestly...I don't tend to read fiction about places I'd actually like to visit. I suppose that pubs are a good example of this. I really like reading about common rooms, inns, taverns, et al. But I'd hate to actually walk into such a place.
 
Posted by shadowynd (Member # 2077) on :
 
Ah, any pub where they tell wonderful stories would be good for me. And one need not imbibe to enjoy the stories-- just drink of the atmosphere!

Susan

 


Posted by Doc Brown (Member # 1118) on :
 
Calvin's Bemis Ballroom in Bemis, West Virginia.

Calvin's is not fictional, it is stranger than fiction.
 


Posted by autumnmuse (Member # 2136) on :
 
The pub in Hobbiton would be nice, I think it was called the Green Dragon?

In real life my husband went to the pub where the Inklings used to meet. He was so excited about seeing the place, but he was pretty disappointed. The management has changed in recent years and the pub has very much gone downhill, he said. It was quite sad.
 


Posted by EricJamesStone (Member # 1681) on :
 
Callahan's, on pun night.

(Featured in the various Callahan's stories by Spider Robinson.)

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Posted by wbriggs (Member # 2267) on :
 
The Bird and Baby, in Oxford, where the Inklings used to hang out. I went there! I have a suspicion that when Lewis and Tolkien were there, they didn't have Buffalo wings.
 
Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
quote:
just drink of the atmosphere!

Yeah, that's pretty exactly what I meant
 


Posted by shadowynd (Member # 2077) on :
 
Survivor, that's the beauty of being able to select a fictional pub. The atmosphere might be very different indeed from the average worldly pubs we have to face-- or not-- in our every day lives. *g*

Perhaps in your fictional pub of choice, no one ever gets drunk or obnoxious. Haven't read of one like that? Well, then, maybe we need to write one! *VBG*

Susan

 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Well, I have to admit that I'm not fond of the oder of liquor.

The problem is that most fictional pubs are full of, well...mammals, to put it delicately. And the one's that are full of non-mammals aren't the kind of places that any sane being would want to visit anyway. Non-mammals go there for nefarious purposes, fun not usually being on the list.
 


Posted by Pyre Dynasty (Member # 1947) on :
 
The Crossroads Tavern, really it's an Rp club, but it's an increadible setting. it has a infinate amount of upper floors. and once in a while there is loud crashing noise but nobody wants to go up an find out why. (well I did but that's beside the point.)


. That
 


Posted by dpatridge (Member # 2208) on :
 
well... I can't think of any that are in any published work that I'd like to visit, but there's always my own invention: the trabs. I think it would be a very awe-inspiring sight to see...

Since none of you are really well acquainted with them, trab is shorthand for transbeamer. A science-fiction transportation device I created for my WIP which is rather similar to the Star Trek "transporter" EXCEPT that it can only go between two of the devices, you cannot beam off to some location without a device available there to rematerialize you.

For this reason, the society in which this was invented transformed all the airports into Transbeamer Halls. Shorthand for Transbeamer Halls being "the trabs." Many a storyteller lines these halls, hoping to attract travelers to stop and listen for a while.

My WIP is set so that a couple of cynical men who happen to know each other meet up in the trabs and then wander over to a storyteller near the exit into the town who tells the inner story. The outer story is about the reactions of one of these cynics to the inner story. The third book will shift focus and there will only be one story, that of the cynic now on a quest to repeat the actions of his forebears as told to him by the storyteller...

Anyways, I've rambled on enough about this. Suffice it to say that the trabs are a very magnificent engineering feat, and I'd absolutely love to be able to spend more time in them than I actually do.
 


Posted by hoptoad (Member # 2145) on :
 
The 'Broom and Barrel' from Gene Wolf's A Devil in the Forest. or that one in Cherryh's Chernevog

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Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Why would you turn airports into transbeamer hubs? Wouldn't it make more sense to leave them as airports, since that's what they're located and built to do best?

I'd think that you'd want to have transbeamer hubs located more like metro/subway stations.
 


Posted by dpatridge (Member # 2208) on :
 
Transbeamers serve the same purpose as airports do, except that they can also go between planets.

Turning someone into an energy mass and transporting them at the speed of light to be returned to being a physical mass is not efficient enough to be used for in-city transportation, they use high-powered EM fields for in-city travel. Faster than walking or driving, which, cars are no longer used and many people think of them as myth or as never even having existed. Of course, EM-based transportation isn't as fast as the trabs, but it is more efficient than them.

Look at it this way: a trab has to keep track of both the physical and energy-based characteristics of an individual. A trab ALSO needs to keep track of where they originated from and where they are going within cubic micrometers. In addition to all the data, which is in excess of several terabytes per traveler, these things have to do the actual conversion and transmitting to the recieving trab. On the recieving end, the process must be reversed.

Now would it make all that much sense to use such a means of travel for local transportation?

Airplanes are no longer used, so Airports are no longer needed. Airports filled enough space to be able to fit these monstrosities, so they just tore down the old structure, put up the new structure, and filled it with trabs.

But let's not take this topic too far off track.
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Why aren't airplanes used anymore? And, er, why would you use an installation fixed to a planetary surface for interplanetary travel? I suppose that we should return this thread to it's original topic, but I didn't have any fictional gathering spots I'd like to visit "for real". So derailment is fine with me.

By the way, if we open things up a bit...I'd like to be able to hang out in the central ecosphere of an unmanned Wraithbane class cruiser. That way, I'd also be able to walk other cool places
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
I'm going to be a spoilsport here and edit the topic title to avoid confusion.

Sorry about that, but not sorry enough to leave things as they are.
 




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