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Posted by ArmadonRK (Member # 8864) on :
 
The first in a series of three or four novels, Death and the Butterfly is a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I'm about 13,000 words in, and looking for as much feedback as I can get!

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Nikki stared down at the man trembling before her. The moment was so familiar to her. Deja vu. She had lived a moment as this one once before. This was exactly as she remembered. Exactly the way the captain of Fandrel’s Guard had trembled before her on the riverfront those many centuries ago. Of course, she hadn’t used a gun then. To be fair, she hadn’t needed one.
Nikki fired between the man’s eyes, and smiled.

"Quickly! Straight for the keep!" Hector heard his captain shout.
The lieutenant rode onward, at the head of the Royal Guard, the two dozen horse riders galloping across the grassy plains toward the castle in the distance.
 
Posted by JSchuler (Member # 8970) on :
 
I'd keep reading. You get a feel for Nikki in that last line. Wouldn't want to meet her in a dark alley.

I'm not sure how I feel about the first POV shift this early. I take it there's a scene break there, so it's not confusing me or anything. It's just sudden.

Now, in your first paragraph we get four sentences saying the same thing, and then a fifth sentence that says it again, only with more (and better) detail. I think you can eliminate "The moment... she remembered." And then maybe use the saved words to give us some detail on this man she's about to shoot, or why she's going to shoot him.

After the scene break it gets a little confusing. We have Hector, who I take it is the lieutenant, hearing his captain, so he's the POV. However, midway through the last sentence, the POV slips outward to following two dozen horse riders, with, I believe, Hector subsumed into the crowd. That doesn't read properly to me.
 
Posted by enigmaticuser (Member # 9398) on :
 
I'd beware of input on a first thirteen with only 13k behind. The beginning can change a lot by the time the ending is written and it forces you back to the beginning.

Having said that, I agree there's a lot of repitetion. Which would feel fine elsewhere, but here it feels like it could be better used deepening the characters. Why is Nikki smiling? She's having deja vu, did she smile back then? Is she static and unchanging (sounds flat?)? Or was she angry then? Is she just cold or did something spark this? Some hint of her motive or perhaps some details on the man where we could guess at why he is being executed?

I think my bottom line is that I'm not told enough. I need something to anchor me to someone to want to follow.
 
Posted by ArmadonRK (Member # 8864) on :
 
Thanks for the feedback, it was very helpful.
Well, I'm now about 16,000 words in, and trying not to go back or do any editing. I am trying to use the criticism to better work my way forward with the manuscript. I know most people say not to do that until after I'm finished with a first draft or until I'm further in at least, but I like to work with ongoing feedback.
 
Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
I think the thing that people say not to do is to go back and rewrite the beginning before you've gotten to the end.

So you're doing the right thing, ArmadonRK. Keep up the good work.
 
Posted by Carl F (Member # 10040) on :
 
I'm in favor of terse descriptions. Let the reader figure out the blanks.
"She had lived a moment as this one once before"
Alt: She had lived a moment like this once before.

They tell me to exclude excess adjective modifiers. 'More punch' Do you need the 'so' in the second sentence?
'grassy' is unnecessary. 'distant castle' drops a few words.
 


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