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Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
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Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 1 Title: Beating the Odds

Sebastion took a seat at the bar and gave Bishop a cold hard stare. “You got us kicked out of the casino for cheating. I fired people for a whole lot less.”
Bishop snapped his fingers at the bartender and put up two fingers. “I got us kicked out for suspicion of cheating. They never proved I did and never will.”
Sebastion shook his head. “You just can’t allow yourself to lose, can you?”
Bishop downed his drink as soon as the bartender set it down. “Nope. I always try to win, no matter what the odds are. There isn’t a challenge that I will shy away from. I aim to win any game, build the best product, buck the worst odds, and over come any obstacle. That’s why you hired me. I’m the never
 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 2 Title: Weapons Expert

Sebastian curled himself into the fetal position on the lee side of a gigantic boulder while I completed the destruction of our hovercraft’s control panel. A compass and a chronometer were the only useful gadgets I could find that still worked. It was rather coincidental that the invisibility shield wasn’t functioning at all, but the security cameras were fully operative. When I saw the snipped wires, the truth hit me like a punch in the gut: The Berian wanted the Dytdactlyns to find us, and he wanted to watch it happen.

It would have been easy to disable the security cameras by removing a chip and cutting some wires, but there was too much adrenaline coursing through me for that, so I decided to let the Berian have his action. I braved the wind driven sand

 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 3 Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood

"Bedtime, Dtylan. Big day tomorrow," Tylbal said.
The alien planet's swooping bats of evening were gone, and night-hunting birds now hooted at the Dtydactlyn warrior band.
The young initiate glanced up at his father, who'd returned to his whispered conference with the shaman. "Yes, sir." He tossed the last bit of his roasted spider monkey on the cook-fire. The fat crackled in the flames, igniting sparks that jumped at Dtylan and sent him scurrying to his bedroll. The greasy scorched-flesh smoke and stares of animal eyes followed him. He lay awake, listening to the night-forest and feeling sick. Would the terran heart make him puke? What a disgrace!

 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 4 Title: Natural Selection


'How many shots does it take to kill these things?' Sebastion looked down over the rock edge at the swift moving creatures.
'Three.' Bishops rifle followed the leader of the five Dtydactlyns. 'First,' he said, firing off a round, 'an ankle.' The shot struck true and the lead Dactlyn stumbled forward. 'Second,' he fired of another round, 'the stomach.' The shot knocked the Dactlyn to the ground. 'Third,' He shot at one of the following Dactlyn that was tending to the lead, 'The neck.' The rest of the Dactlyn gathered around the fallen lead Dactlyn. 'Third,' Bishop said again, 'the neck.' Another Dactlyn fell. 'Third,' he said two more times. On the second shot, he missed. 'Damnit,' Bishop looked up at sebastion, 'sometimes it takes four.'
 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intr0 5 Title: [PREYING FOR TIME
Thundering footsteps shook the ground, knocking Sebastian Conte to his knees. He struggled back to his feet and ran, cursing the slimy moss-covered terrain. The smell of fetid breath was overpowering. The massive beast was closing in.
"How long does it take that weapon of yours to charge?"
Bishop, his friend and head weapon's designer, yelled back, "It's almost done!"
Almost was going to get them devoured.
Sebastian, grabbing Bishop, vaulted into a cave, praying worse creatures than the one chasing them didn't call it home. Luck was not with him today. Lasers from a dozen Dtydactlyn rifles were now aimed at their heads. "You lose," the leader snarled.
"Not this time." Bishop fired his weapon, and time froze.


 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 6 Title: Hunting for Verundi

Sebastian Conte loved to gamble; the higher the stakes, the better. Who knew the expedition to Vos would be the most exciting gamble of his life?
It started at his private poker table, in the Shangrai La hotel orbiting Sentari Five. Sebastian tucked away his cards and eyed his chief weapons designer, Frank Bishop. A flush should win, but with his luck tonight Bishop would lay down four aces. No guts, no glory. Sebastian slid two stacks of water credits across the green velvet.

“Sir.” Sebastian’s bodyguard whispered in his ear. “A Berian wants to see you. Says he has the opportunity of a lifetime.”


 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 7 Title: Without A Paddle
We dodged a laser blast and Bishop shoulder-shoved me off the rise and between two huge rock formations. Though I landed hard, nothing broke. I took cover under a ledge to watch Bishop battle a Dtydactlyn. He smashed the blaster from its clawed hand with a club he had scooped up on the run, struck the creature with a fierce backhand blow and hopped off the ledge. He landed in a roll and came up in a squat.
"Guide screwed us," he said, holding a homing chit.
"That prototype you brought to show me..."
"I don't think this will help much," he said, holding up a multipurpose knife.
Then the rock stood up and turned its reptilian head.



 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 8 Title: Great White Hunter Hunting
Clung-yung-yung, the n-dimensional luton round ricocheted off the bundyuv trunk like a steel halyard whacking a flag pole.
"Cripes, Bishop," Sebastian Conte said. He pointed the finger cannon at the sky. "Isn't it supposed to annihilate the target?"
"Not a dendrosaur tree." Bishop examined the dent made in the cerostanium trunk by the luton round. "When the irresistible force meets the immovable object they both give a little."
"Where's the big game at, Berian sur Tometh?" Sebastian traced an arc with the leveled finger cannon. "I want to take home a huge trophy. Uh, Bishop, where's Tometh?"
Bishop slipped a finger cannon over his palm. "Did the zuzzard bugs just go quiet or did they stop ticking when you fired?"
A dot painted Sebastian's forehead. "Get down," Bishop screamed.


 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Entry # 9
Title: "Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning."


Sebastian leaned back in his chair. The shuttle door lifted and the world of Vos opened before him. The red sky of the third sun, bled into snow-capped mountains covered by lush forests laced with rivers and lakes.


“Jurassic Fricken Park, baby!”


Despite the ill feelings of earlier, Sebastian couldn’t help but crack a smile at his over enthusiastic weapons designer.


A dull horn sounded in the distance. Dark shapes filled the air.


Bishop turned Sebastian’s way, his white teeth shining bright against his tanned skin, blonde highlights sparkling in dark hair. He caressed his latest invention, a nuclear infused throwback to the Gatlin gun. “I feel like Torak, baby!”


Sebastian shook his head. “This ain’t no video game, kid.”

 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Entry # 10

Title: A Guided Lure


Sebastian chucked a resin-plant on the embers. Sparks crackled up in the chilly morning air. He glanced across the dusty plain. He loved a sunrise and this was special; Vos’s sun bathed the massive continental worm, Vir’nush, in amber light.

A tree crashed into the clearing, shattering Sebastian’s meditations. He spun round—his hearting hammering--and held his breath; there was something wrong. Silence--where were the perimeter defence drones?

Sebastian bounded across the guide’s hex-shelter, “Krovolak, where are the dron--?” He stopped; the shelter was empty, but for a small object on the floor.

“Bishop,” Sebastian shouted over his shoulder, “You better get up your arse up—NOW.” He picked up the voice recorder.

 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Entry No: 11
Zero Sum Games

Sebastian shielded his eyes against the sun and stepped off the ground transport. Even before he scanned the horizon he knew something was wrong. Of course if was--he should have known better than to listen to Bishop. Nothing but red rock and dust stretched before them. No town, no escort, no Belerian contact.

As if on cue, Bishop jostled him from behind with one of the suitcases. "All right, we're hustling, we're hustling!" he called back to the ship just as the door snapped shut. "Damn Similians, always in a hurry."

"Hey!" Sebastian waved to the ground transport even as it rose up into the air, covering him with dust.

hat's odd," Bishop said, taking in the landscape while Sebastian coughed. "Well, Ty must be delayed. Or maybe he's


 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Entry 12
Under the Blood-Red Sky


Sebastian experienced a moment of disorientation as the shuttle equalized cabin pressure to match the heavy atmosphere of Vos. A brief moment after the air pumps stuttered to a halt, the rear hatch made a loud clanking noise and then opened, letting a foggy and damp breeze blow into the cabin. Bishop leaned forward in his seat across from Sebastian and inhaled a long deep breath. He gripped his plasma stunner as he peered through the mist, his fingers tapping on the worn and pitted steel of the handle. An unknown animal called out in the distance, a high pitched screetch. He glanced at Sebastian, a smirk on his face, before rising to his feet.


The door to the pilot’s cabin swung open, and their guide stepped into the hold. “Welcome gentles, to Vos,” he said with


 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Entry 13
Title: There's No Payout in This Game

I lay down my cards and the holo-croupier barks "winner, Mr. Conte". Bishop laughs a bit too loud and punches my shoulder. He's a boor, even sober, but he's the best sub-quantum weaponry engineer this side of the galaxy. Ignoring my drunken friend, I lean back, take a long drag on my cigarette and scope out the Berian I've just crushed. Victory itself, beating an opponent, satisfies me more than all those credits glowing on the table.

The Berian smiles. "I see money no longer nourishes you," he says. It's my turn to smile. "Rather than settle my debt with currency," he continues, "I have a proposition."

I'm interested. "I'm listening."

The Berian lowers his voice. "How would you like to play a more dangerous game?"


 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Entry #: 14

Title: A Berian Moon.


Bishop's dark, chin-length hair clung wet to her face as she stood contorted inside the Chanda tree's sprawling root systems. She heard the dying Dtydactlyn screech in agony as it stumbled to the ground. The Vetin dart she crammed into its neck was already working, its pores expanding to allow the animal to free bleed right through its thick, heavy skin.
"So the Vetins really do work?" Sebastian panted, catching his breath.
"They kill wonderfully," she swatted in front of her face, "but it does nothing for the swarms of guul flies that follow them."
"That was all of them?" he hoped as he asked. "I only saw two."
"Dtydactlyn's only hunt in pairs," she said while staring distantly at the Berian moon on the horizon. "Now it's our turn

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Posted by skadder (Member # 6757) on :
 
Competition now closed for entries--but open for voting.

PLEASE VOTE ON THIS THREAD. Snapper, Benttree and me will vote last as we have all had some mod duties--sometime on Monday. Snapper can you send your copy of who wrote what to Bentree so he has a list of all the entries.

Voting closes midnight Monday (GMT).

Let the judging commence...

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Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
Title: #10 A Guided Lure

#1 Hook: #13 There's No Payout in This Game
#2 Hook: #5 Preying for Time
#3 Hook: #2 Weapons Expert
 


Posted by illiterate (Member # 7997) on :
 
Ok, here’s my scoring.

1. I would have liked to see more of the synopsis in this story. I couldn’t tell if this is before they met the Berian, or if this was way afterwards (i.e. they survived). It also doesn’t give any insight as to the story. Now that said- I think it does a descent job of setting the stage for the adventure as laid out in the synopsis- but I need more teeth… something that grabs a hold of me.

2. Liked the idea, liked the writing. Wanted some dialogue, and couldn’t figure out why Sebastian was in the fetal position. I am assuming because Bishop was going to blow up their hovercraft, but I’m making an assumption there.

3. I actually really liked this PoV, and enjoyed the writing. Illiterate gives two thumbs up?

4. Loved it. I got a little confused as to the count of shots, but it could be me reading it was confusing, not necessarily the writing. Will be interested to see what everyone else thinks. I personally enjoy any writing that is actionable, yet has strong dialogue that builds the characters. Comedic value puts this one up front for me.

5. I enjoyed this one as well. I really liked the beginning. It sort of lost me when Sebastian grabbed Bishop …etc. I was hoping for more of the “put me in the story” effect that I got from the first few lines. Still good though.

6. Aha! So that’s how to skirt the 13 line rule! I think I could have done without the first line, instead starting the story “At his private poker table…. “. Then again- I’m not the author. Other than the first line- I give this one thumb up for the story, and one thumb down for the bending of the matrix by squeezing extra words in.

I’ll also give myself two thumbs down for using the Siskel and Eberts “thumbs” grading system. Sorry bout that.

7. Good, I really liked the action. The only thing that rubbed me wrong was that this story obviously takes place in the future. I have never seen a “club” in all my years, and although I know they existed before wheels and fire… I wasn’t expecting Bishop to find one and fight with it a million years later. Don’t know, maybe I thought the Dtydactlyn’s would be more fierce. This story had me visualizing a small field rodent… perhaps a groundhog, weasel, or any other vermin that could be held off by a club-wielding ninja.

8. Just my opinion, but I had to read the first sentence 6 times. I also had to read several of the others a few times. That could be my poor reading comprehension skills. It could also be the way the story was put together- I’ll see what others thought. Don’t get me wrong, I like story lines that have new language, new artifacts, and imagery- it was just a little too much for 13 lines. I really liked the last two lines- they actually hooked me. It just took me a few reads to get there.

9. Weird for me, but I think its quite good. However, me being the shallow, insensitive man- thought it almost a sci-fi romance novel-ish- although don’t ask me why, it just felt that way. I was hoping for more of a hook. I was glad to see that Jurassic Park references. I guess in the future, even they love Spielberg.

10. Liked it, loved it, don’t have too much to say about it. I especially liked the first sentence. Definitely a front runner for me.

11. Ok. No hook, not much action, seemed to be skirting the 13 line rules by missing characters here and there. I really enjoyed the first paragraph though, although I think the race was changed to Belerian from Berian.

12. Very good setting and introduction. I loved it. I don’t think I would change anything- short of adding lines 14, 15, and 16 to give it a really good hook.

13. Good. I sometimes struggle reading with this type of First person. They always seem to me like they are narrating a 50’s detective/ P.I. episode. I think that’s really just me- but I’d like to know if that was actually the intent. I did like it though, and I almost never like that writing style from that PoV. Made me rethink my stereotypical dislike.

14. Good Action, would like to see it get more storyline though.

My votes:

First - #:4- Natural Selection
Second - #3:- The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Third - #10: A Guided Lure

Title – Under the Blood-Red Sky

 


Posted by stammsp (Member # 8000) on :
 
Wow.
Some impressive writing. For a slow start, the blanks were filled in nicely.

It was a difficult call, but this is what the dart board said(kidding!):

First: #7 WITHOUT A PADDLE
Second: #13 THERE'S NO PAYOUT IN THIS GAME
Third: #10 A GUIDED LURE

Title: #7 WITHOUT A PADDLE

1- Could take place in Vegas present day. Didn't have a sci-f/fantasy feel to me. I'm sure that would come later. Lines kind of lost in dialogue.

2- Writing is good, but I don't know that I like a hook entirely in description.

3- I was confused with this one. I thought the race were space-traveling hunters...I don't get that from this scene. Good visuals, though. (Gross!)

4- Needs some paragraph separation!! Hard to read. Love the last line, though.

5- Lose slimy. 'Grabbing Bishop', etc--needs some rewording.

6- I liked this one, but its hook isn't as strong as some of the others.

7- I love to be surprised. This one had two: the multipurpose knife and the living 'rock'. Could see the whole thing in my head. Great hook!

8- Too descriptive. New wording is great as long as it doesn't struggle to come off my tongue. I think it would be a great hook if the heavy language were lightened.

9- Austin Powers on a hunting trip. Sorry, can't get past that image. Great movie idea, though...

10- Rework the first paragraph and WOW!

11- I liked this one, too. The suitcases on a hunting expediion threw me off a bit. I pictured a Hawaiian shirt, camera toting tourist.

12- Too many adjectives. Tighten it up--remove half of them. (Reminded me of Firefly...Jane and Mal, you know)

13- Struggle a bit with 1st person but I liked this one. Good visuals. Love the last line hook.

14- Why does Sebastian have to catch his breath? Contorted in the tree? Why did she stay there once the pair were dead? I like that Bishop is a woman. Nice surprise.


Edited to add critiques.

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Posted by MrsBrown (Member # 5195) on :
 
Wow, this is a slew of great starts! Very hard to pick.

Best Title: Entry No: 11 Title: Zero Sum Games
1st pick: Entry No: 11 Title: Zero Sum Games
2nd pick: Entry 13 Title: There's No Payout in This Game
3rd pick: Intr0 5 Title: PREYING FOR TIME

Intro 1 Title: Beating the Odds
I like this; edgy, strong voice, conflict right up front, with characterization. Where’s the speculative element?
Nits: I fire people… they didn’t tell the bartender what kind of drinks… They’ll never prove I did it. Awfully long bit of dialogue at the end; downing the drink should break it up. When read aloud, the dialogue doesn’t sound natural; cut some words from it.

Intro 2 Title: Weapons Expert
Good! I like the shield and cameras, the tension. It does leave me wondering what’s going on; the ship was sabotaged, so they haven’t been attacked yet. So why Sebastian’s behavior and why adrenaline? I don’t like that the first sentence drops Sebastian in with no explanation, and then he is forgotten.

Intro 3 Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Interesting perspective. Not sure why, but I was a bit confused at first. I think the second sentence is not firmly enough in the MC’s POV. There’s a long break between Tylbal’s order and the “Yes, sir.” Swap the first and second sentences; that solves both problems. But would he think of his father as Tylbal? I’m not too keen on the eating humans angle, but its catchy.

Intro 4 Title: Natural Selection
I like that they seem so calm about what’s happening; that could be punched up by letting us know how dangerous the Dtydactlyns are. The shots and their targets are too confusing, although I see what it is trying to do. The Dtydactlyns’ response seems too passive; it makes me ask, why is Bishop killing them? Bishop’s last phrase made me smile.

Intr0 5 Title: PREYING FOR TIME
Good action, good hook—there’s a lot to like here.
“slimy moss-covered terrain” could be pared down. “his friend and head weapon's designer” slows the action; why would he think of this now? Sebastian grabbed Bishop, vaulted into a cave, and prayed that nothing worse called it home. Not sure about “time” used twice that way; its too cute as a play on words.

Intro 6 Title: Hunting for Verundi
Relies too much on the opening teaser for a hook; would rather see some disturbance among the characters. Would rather tech up the cards and card table to something futuristic. And who is Sebastian, that he needs a weapons designer? Why would he think about that now?

Intro 7 Title: Without A Paddle
I liked the knife and the rock/head very much; good for tension. The fight scene feels distant; it lacks Sebastian’s emotions and thoughts. Bishop’s statement right after the fight stops the action too abruptly; wouldn’t he gasp for breath, scan the horizon for more of them, something more immediate? Seems odd that he “came up in a squat.”

Intro 8 Title: Great White Hunter Hunting
This will be a great opening if the distractions are cleaned up. The storytelling is solid. “Clung-yung-yung” didn’t work for me as a sound (at first I thought it was a name)--it can be cut. The names of things are too complicated; three names for the same tree? Loved the dialogue about the gun.
I couldn’t picture tracing an arc with a leveled gun. Wouldn’t moving in an arc make it not level?

Moved the beat to flow better: "Where's the big game at, Berian sur Tometh? I want to take home a huge trophy.” Sebastian traced an arc with the [] finger cannon. “Uh, Bishop, where's Tometh?"


Entry # 9 Title: "Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning."
Bishop’s enthusiasm is appealing. I think that’s what it has going so far. The visuals are close, but… Why lean back; why not forward, to see more? No commas after sun; why are snow-capped mountains covered with rivers and lakes? Those belong in the valley. What ill feelings? What shapes; birds, rockets, bees?

Entry # 10 Title: A Guided Lure
Another one that will be a good opening if the distractions are cleaned up.
He loved sunrises, … What is a continental worm?? Don’t need “shattering Sebastian’s meditations”. Pick one or two of the spun round, hammering heart, held breath. Don’t need “there was something wrong”; instead, could he look at the tree and look for whatever made it fall down? Don’t halt speech mid-word unless it’s between syllables.

Entry No: 11 Title: Zero Sum Games
Solid. Good POV, setting, characterization, tension. I like Sebastian’s awareness countered by Bishop’s slow uptake. Nits: Of course it was. Bishop’s speech directed at the ship does not sound natural. And did they get all the suitcases??

Entry 12 Under the Blood-Red Sky
Oh, it’s got potential. Not sure why I’m hesitating here; everything looks fine. Wait, its POV. Too many words between Sebastian experiencing and Bishop leaning; the POV shifted from Sebastian to Bishop. I’d like to see it go deeper into Sebastian’s head. Can we have a thought or a bit of dialogue?
…foggy and damp breeze blowing: how about fog rolling in? … long deep (pick one)… worn and pitted (pick one)… steel handle… cut ‘unknown’…

Entry 13 Title: There's No Payout in This Game
I would really like this in past tense. The second sentence could stay in present, I think. Good characterization, dialogue, and tone.
Two nits: Credits are often the coin of the future in SF; it seems like payment is right there, not an outstanding debt. And the repetition is distracting: I'm interested. "I'm listening."

Entry #: 14 Title: A Berian Moon.
Ooh, strong female lead! I like her.
Whose POV are we in? Bishop’s? Seems like maybe, since she was the one hearing the scream. And the first sentence is too long. What is free bleeding?

How about: Bishop felt her wet hair cling to her face as she crouched under the Chanda tree's sprawling roots. She heard…ground. She saw that the Vetin dart she had crammed (crammed?)…working. She watched the animal’s pores expand to let the blood pour out of its thick skin. [That’s too many sentences starting with She. Maybe just have the dying thing screech without She heard… ][And the rest is great.]

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Posted by skadder (Member # 6757) on :
 
When you vote can people remember to put the NUMBER of the entry next to the TITLE--it makes tallying up the scores easier.
 
Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
 
Well, quite the crop seems to have sprung from a little longer growing season....

1. Interesting dynamic between Sebastian and Bishop, but Bishop launches into soliloquy mode a little too quickly, and a little too obviously for me. Sorry - pass.

2. I never expected this to come up - Bishop's POV! I think it's a tendency in situations like this to write from the everyman's POV and watch the action characters take over, so this was a nice change of pace. However, there seemed to be a little too much scene-setting going on - 13 lines of this is how things look right now. Let us experience the setting, rather than explain it to us.

3. Another intriquing POV. Is the hunting of a human a rite of passage for these aliens? Consuming the heart a sign of strength, or is it supposed to bestow some extra skill to the hunter in the future? These questions are interesting ones, and ones that I would like to see answered. Therefore, I'd probably read on. I'm not 100% certain this is the most persuasive/sympathetic POV you could have chosen, since a reader will tend to sympathize with a human character over an alien one (all thing being equal).

4. This could have used an edit before sending it out I think, and I'm not finding anything particularly compelling within. Aren't the Dtydactlyns sentient beings? By the way they are acting, I would say so. Seems a bit amoral to be hunting them in this way, and Sebastian's lack of response to Bishop's actions (actually, his tacit approval by asking the initial question) doesn't make me like them very much. No likey the characters + not intrigued by the story = no more read.

5. In my opinion, this is a little too crafted to fit into the first 13. High action and a cliffhanger on the very first page? I'm not feeling any genuine ability or intent to string this out to 5,000 words, just to create what you're after, which is the perfect 13. That might be the whole point of this challenge, but the feeling of being over-manufactured throws me off a bit. All that said, this is competent, though there si a little too much narration going on for a high-action scene. Full name, first and last? Friend and head weapons designer? Pacing issues here.

6. Two things right off the bat - waaay too much telling, and this opening seems a little too far removed from the action. I'm just not that interested in this story, or what the Berian is offering. Sorry dude (or dudette).

7. Again, another crafted with high-action and a specific cliffhanger right at the last word. Feels like I'm being handled, which is off-putting. I would almost prefer a first thirteen that leaves me dangling at a half-finished sentence than something as pat as this. That said, there are POV issues here (We dodged?) and some of the action is awkwardly worded (came up in a squat?), so I'll have to pass on this too.

8. Wow... another perfect cliffhanger at the end of the page. Am I out-of-touch with my criticism of this? Okay... too much gobbeldygood speak, technobabble, new names for things that made me stop and think about what you were talking about before I could get into the story. Some of the dialogue pacing was strange to me and not consistent or smooth, and the whole story's pacing took an abrupt leap from gentle cruising to Autobahn in a single sentence. Sorry.... pass.

9. Another cliffhanger. Almost not worth commenting on - I guess I am that out-of-touch. The Jurassic Park reference is out of place I would think - a little too far into the future. What kids these days even know about Jurassic Park any more? And, Torak? Did you perhaps mean Turok, as in the video game? Another anachronism. A couple niggling grammar issues and the over description of Bishop booted me out of this story. Still, I wanted to read further - finally someone focusing on the dinosaur-like creatures, rather than the Dtydactlyns.

10. This is better. I'm getting the feeling that this action is a little disjointed: a tree falls into the clearing, but the thing that made it fall doesn't appear? Sebastian has time to run across the clearing to the guides tent? No, not ran, but bounded, like a Gummi Bear? Or is the gravity low enough that he could just leap across the clearing in a single bound? The first paragraph is strong though, very strong, strong enough to make me want to read more in hopes that you could rescue this. Plus, I want to know what a continental worm is. Battling that thing must be epic.

11. This must have been written in a hurry - lots of little typos and spelling issues. Anyways, that aside, this isn't too bad, but not truly compelling. A couple people on holidays and they can't find their guide. It happens. An impatient bus driver/taxi driver? It also happens. The characterization of Sebastian and Bishop aren't drawing me in either. Sorry, there just isn't anything here to hold my interest.

12. I'm getting a feeling of setting better here than in mst of the others, but at the cost of anything happening.... I trust that's upcoming in the next 13 lines? As has been mentioned, there are POV issues here I believe, but nothing too bad. This is fairly well done, and I'd read on for those next 13 lines (or 26 I suppose, for a full page) to see if the action picks up.

13. Another start more distant from the action, but with more promise. Good characterizations, though still too much telling for my tastes. Actually, that's my biggest issue here. Everything is telling, and it doesn't let me into the story, it holds me off at a distance. Show a little more and let people interpret the story through your MC's actions rather than being told how he is feeling. It would be stronger for it.

14. Bishop is a female? Wow. WOW. This only stands out to me after 13 other entries (my own mixed in there) so on an initial read it might not be a big thing, but right now, it is. Other things - how does a person bleed from their pores? Vetin is a poison, or a weapon? Regardless, there is tension here, a feeling of equally matched adversaries, a good feel of setting (though that could be expanded) and interesting characters. I'm excited to see where this goes.

Votes

First: #3 - The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Second: #14 - A Berian Moon
Third: #10 - A Guided Lure

Title: A Guided Lure

Good work everyone, and especially Bent Tree for the solid outline.

Jayson Merryfield
 


Posted by extrinsic (Member # 8019) on :
 
A crack-head manager at the last restaurant I was chef of repeated an adage about fine dining that resembles my subjective critiquing process. (I've stepped out from under my copyeditor hat for this exercise.) Good food ain't fast or easy; fast or easy food ain't good. Applying that to the critical process, constructive criticism isn't easy. Gosh, it's hard, but hard work provides more benefits to the writer and the critiquer emerging as a writer. I'll feel more rewarded by the process and, I hope, you-all writers will as well.

This Thirteen Lines Challenge is to write a good hook. It's not difficult to hook me. The hook can derive from any feature of a story's opening be it the title, dramatic action, setting, characters, voice, flair, prosody, imaginative premises, dramatic premise, inciting moment, ad infinitum.

In general, all the openings have solid imaginative premises that didn't degrade suspension of disbelief. Some are gadget oriented due to Bishop's role as a weapons designer. Excepting one, human characters are at the center of the dramatic action. When Sebastian or Bishop pose as the protagonist, in general, they're posed in the motif of a cocksure, maveric executive. The other executive is posed as a foil for the protagonist. In each, the executives are posed in opposition, one competent, the other not so much. Two approach the story through different perspectives than the others, one with a woman protagonist, the other, in the alien Dytdactlyn perspective. All of the above proved to be good hooks purely on those merits alone.

#1: Beating the Odds
Sebastion and Bishop's opposition promises that their differences will revolve around the core of the dramatic action. Wanting to see Bishop taken down a notch was what hooked me most.

#2: Weapons Expert
The Berian's desire to watch the Dtydactlyns find Bishop and Sebastian intrigued me most. It suggested that the Berian has a motive beyond curiousity, perhaps he answers to a higher master. First person suggests Bishop has an internal conflict that might catastrophically influence his decisions.

#3: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Contrasts of intelligent aliens with familiar bedtime activities and prehunt jitters captivated me. The figurative meaning carries most of the dramatic freight, which hooked me most. Contemplating if the terran heart will make Dtylan puke foreshadows hunting terrans and the story to come. "Greasy scorched-flesh smoke" uses the olfactory sense to good purpose by contributing to Dtylan's anxiety-driven queasiness.

#4: Natural Selection
The campy tone reminiscient of Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat and Keith Laumer's Retief struck me most as the hook for this one. Use of counting as a plot device works to good effect. I wanted to see what came after three and how each shot took a Dytdactlyn out of action. Naming the body parts shows the Dtydactlyns have a humanoid-like anatomy, which by a comparision scheme suggests a predisposition to intelligence.

#5: PREYING FOR TIME
The clever substitution scheme in the title caught my eye. "TIME" suggested a temporal-related imaginative premise. What hooked me most is a desire to see how the weapon's effect impacted the players differently.

#6: Hunting for Verundi
The title, although Verundi is a Russian surname, evokes a hot, dry Sub-Saharan savannah. "Water credits" reinforces the image of an arid world, which opposes the image of a Shangrai La setting alluding to eternal life at a price as in James Hilton's Lost Horizon. Sebastian's third person interior monologue promises an internal conflict that might counterpose or parallel an external one. Also, Sebastian's assessment of his luck against Bishop sets up their opposition and suggests Sebastian's immediate destiny will be less than triumphant. Sebastian having a bodyguard suggests that he's under threat. The last sentence hooked me most, I wanted to see how Sebastian would interact with the Berian.

#7: Without A Paddle
Three things hooked me. The title suggests the protagonist will rely entirely on wits. The subtextual connotation of Bishop saying "I don't think this will help much" creates a reversal of my expectations regarding the title. I expected them to have at least a meager close-up defensive weapon. When Bishop shows the multipurpose knife, it reverses my secondary expectation and reinforces the expectation I have from the title. Subtle manipulation of the reader, brilliant. The action started right away, followed by a reflective moment, and ended with a continuing cause for more dramatic action to come.

#8: Great White Hunter Hunting
A dual meaning in the title, who's hunting who was my first question. Sebastian's cavalier attitude hooked me, though the change in alertness leading to an inciting moment did too. I read invented words for their resonance with familiar concepts and the feel of their sounds. They spoke to me of an interesting exploration in a familiar yet alien world.

#9: Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning."
The nautical motif of the title suggests a foreshadowing of a stormy passage. Tying it to a third red sun intrigued me. Bishop's allusion to Torak, from either David Eddings' Belgeriad, or Michelle Paver's Chronicles of Ancient Darkness, suggests a fantasy epic. I appreciate cultural allusions, whether I'm familiar with them or not. They provide figurative benchmarks that enhance the literal meaning of stories. Hook-wise, the title spoke to me most.

#10: A Guided Lure
The title suggests a fishing expedition where the tables are turned on the fishermen. "Continental worm" hooked me most. I'm curious to know what it represents. The guide's hex-shelter being empty is a well-paced inciting moment. I also want to hear what's on the voice recorder. "Your mission, if you choose to accept it..." sprang to mind.

#11: Zero Sum Games
The title suggests a role playing game scenario where there can be only one winner and everyone else loses utterly, which promises an action packed plot with twists and turns. I'm hooked by wanting to see how the zero sum game will play out between Sebastian and Bishop, other characters, less so.

#12: Under the Blood-Red Sky
The title hooked me, I was interested to read on just to find out how the story might allude to the U2 live album of the same name. I also was well satisfied about where in all of creation I was from the ample physical descriptions.

#13: There's No Payout in This Game
Being in first person, what hooked me was a desire to see Sebastian's degradation play out in his internal discourse. I was also intrigued by the literary allusion to "The Most Dangerous Game" (1924) by Richard Connell. Even in the excerpt, the Berian posed in conflict with Sebastian sets up the context for a later betrayal.

#14: "A Berian Moon"
The excerpt flows like a microfiction story. There's an understated inciting moment that poses as a tension builder from the difficult posture, Bishop contorted inside the tree; to a momentary climax, the screech of the Dtydactlyn; and cycles through to a satisfying resolution in the final phrase fragment. When an excerpt has a mini plot, it promises an effective overarching plot. Well done. The initial hook here for me was Bishop as a female protagonist.

Ballot

Title: #7, Without a Paddle

Hook
First place: #7, Without a Paddle
Second place: #3, The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Third place: #14, A Berian Moon

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Posted by kathyton (Member # 7780) on :
 
Title: Natural Selection

First fav: entry 9
Second fav: entry 11
Third fav: entry 10

The entries were all strong, and my choices boiled down to what would get me to read on, given this topic.

# 9. Introduces the setting--very important in a story like this, as well as conveying the essence of the characters and their relationship. Those distinctive and interesting personalities are the hook. The last line--"no video game"--is subtle, but definitely implies they will encounter a threat.

# 11: The characters encounter a problem, and there is enough characterization for the reader to be concerned. Just enough of the setting for the magnitude of the problem to make sense.

# 10: I feel like I'm giving the same crit, but these same 3 points seem to be important for me to get into this plot: Seeing the place, getting a sense of the protogonists personality and caring about them, and an being concerned about their problem. This entry addressed these points very well.

I'll crit the rest after the names of entrants are revealed.
 


Posted by rednancywannabe (Member # 8015) on :
 
The reader in me is frustrated, wanting more than just 13.
Oh well.

Favorite Title #5 Preying for Time

1st #5 Preying for Time
2nd #7 Without a Paddle
3rd #10 A Guided Lure

#5 Preying for Time-Drew me into the moment very well. Sense of urgency. The grabbing Sebastian section needs work, better guiding of the reader to the destination. I also was caught by the word "time" reapeated in the last line, or did you mean to do that?

#7 Without a Paddle-Loved the humor. The prototype (does it come with tweezers?). I really do not like first person narrative, it throws off the start. Shorten the description of his roll (squat? is he scared that bad that he needs to...well,you know). I love the last line and can imagine the "what now, oh crap" look on their faces.

#10 A Guided Lure-Love the action though just a tree smashing into camp doesn't seem urgent enough. What pushed the tree over? Why such a hurry for Bishop? Massive continental worm took me out of the story for a moment. I would rethink the word "bounded". I love the hook you have created though. Write on!
 


Posted by Unwritten (Member # 7960) on :
 
My Votes:
Title: Preying for Time

#1: Entry 11: Zero Sum Games
#2: Entry 3 The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
#2: Entry 5 Preying for Time

Excellent job everyone! It was hard to pick this time.

 


Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
 
Intro 1 Title: Beating the Odds

I read the pre-trimmed version. Lines 14 through 19 had a nice hook going. The first 13 struggled, though.

Intro 2 Title: Weapons Expert

This read a bit pulp. If this were the beginning of a story who’s plot I didn’t know I would have been very confused. In other words, it belonged on page three or four, not the opening paragraph.

Intro 3 Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood

Interesting and an original way to start this story. It doesn’t really grab me though. I found it well written and admittedly, I would read on.

Intro 4 Title: Natural Selection

Way to start it with action. I do not like how dense the Dactlyn are. Why aren’t they breaking for cover? They act like sheep instead of predators.

Intro 5 Title: PREYING FOR TIME

I do find the time freezer interesting but this doesn’t read the first paragraph of this synopsis. More like the middle of the piece.

Intro 6 Title: Hunting for Verundi

A little telling. A good place to start though. Write this with dialog instead and you might have had something.

Intro 7 Title: Without A Paddle

This started right in the middle of a scene. I keep wondering “what happened before this?” If I would have picked up this story in a magazine I would be wondering if I was missing the page before this. I did really like that the rock was an animal, though. That made a nice hook.

Intro 8 Title: Great White Hunter Hunting

I do not like the title (cliché) and the first sentence, Clung-yung-yung, the n-dimensional luton round ricocheted off the bundyuv trunk like a steel halyard whacking a flag pole, I have problems with. Is Clung-yung-yung a sound or the name the ammunition? n-dimensional luton borders on techno babble and steel halyard is too peripheral of a term to use in this analogy. Steel cable would have worked fine in its place. It can be irritating when a google search is necessary to enjoy a story.
That being said I thought the rest was great. I nice place to start this tale although I do wonder why they are there at the moment. The laser dot was a nice touch.

Entry # 9
Title: "Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning."

The opening line was a nice visual. The rest seemed out of place. Torak? Video game? In a far future like this I would think these things would be out of place as vaudeville and the Radio version of the Dick Tracy.

Entry # 10
Title: A Guided Lure
Nice title. I had to read it a couple of times to get a clear idea what was going on. It becomes clear to the narrator that a set has been taken place. Hooky, sort of. I would at least need to read the next paragraph to see what is going on.

Entry No: 11
Zero Sum Games

I want to do some trimming to this. Of course if was and As if on cue, aren’t needed and would read better without it. Sebastian and Bishop seems a little dense. I hope they get smart quick.

Entry 12
Under the Blood-Red Sky

Not bad. The opening paragraph had a sense of urgency to it. The next sentence suggested it wasn’t so dire. Kind of made me feel cheated. Still it was effective and made me want to read more but the next few paragraphs better be good or I would be cursing the author and swear never to read another one of their works for bait and switching me like that.

Entry 13
Title: There's No Payout in This Game

This I liked. A proper opening for the synopsis and suggest a lot more is going to happen. Knowing what is going to happen, it appears to be a motivation for vengeance involving the Berian. Nice job.

Entry #: 14
Title: A Berian Moon.
I like the fact that Bishop is a woman as well. Nice idea and made it hooky. It is clear that she is formidable. However, like so many of the others, this doesn’t seem like it should be the opening paragraph, more like a scene further in the story.

Best Title #10 A Guided Lure

First #13 There's No Payout in This Game

Second #8 Great White Hunter Hunting

Third #12 Under the Blood-Red Sky

 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Sorry, not a lot of time today so keepin' it quick.

Title pick: Without a paddle
First: A Berian Moon
second: A guided Lure
Third: Under the blood red sky

1: Beating the Odds
Hm... two guys in a bar. Not hooking me.

2: Weapons Expert
Whoa--a lot is happening here and I'm not sure I understand what's going on. For some reason the first person is really throwing me. It doesn't quote fit.

3: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Unwieldy title. Not really drawn in by the alien perspective, but I like the attempt.

4: Natural Selection
Two guys taking pot shots at some sort of creatures. The thing that would keep me reading is the desire that they'll turn into Dactlyn chow in short order.

5: Preying for time
Title pun didn't for for me. How the heck are they going to prey for time? I'd probably read on in this action setting, though the set up feels a little forced to me. If it's so close he could smell the breath would they really have a chance to charge the weapons, turn, and fire?

6: Hunting for Verundi
First two paragraphs are a bit tell-y. Not really drawn in.

7: Without a paddle
Again, I think the story started too soon. I'm not really drawn in here. Cute title, promises some humor.

8: Great White Hunter Hunting
Unwieldy title, alliteration didn't work for me. Can't even get through the first sentence! Sorry, too many weird words.

9: Red sky in the morning... all take warning
Lengthy title, but worked for foreshadowing. Don't get who's talking right off the bat. Nor are the characters particularly likable here.

10: A guided lure
Hm... moving a bit too fast for me. But I'd probably turn the page.

11. Zero sum games.
Missing words are suspect--author got all of one extra word snuck into the 13 lines! Situation feels a bit forced.

12: Under the Blood-red sky
Cliched title. Smoothly written though the pace felt rushed; nevertheless I'd turn the page.

13: There's no payout this game
Sorry, turned off by present tense. However, I'd turn the page.

14: A Berian Moon
I like that Bishop's a girl. Nice twist. I'd probably turn the page.
 


Posted by Jeff M (Member # 7828) on :
 
I thought the overall quality was higher for this Challenge than any previous one. Excellent job by all. My opinions on each intro...

Intro 1 Title: Beating the Odds
There’s nothing technically wrong with this, other than I don’t see a hook. Good quality prose, smooth dialogue and flows well. But, for me, there’s nothing compelling enough to keep me reading.

Intro 2 Title: Weapons Expert
From their situation, the peril is clear. Enough so, that I thought all the stuff about security cameras and snipped wires was too much exposition crammed into the opening, which made it feel a bit confusing/cluttered. Maybe this would’ve been stronger by just focusing on the situation, and getting into the security camera intrigue a bit later on?

Intro 3 Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Smooth prose clearly showing the scene. I like it. Minor nit: it’s an “alien plant”, so mention of a “spider monkey” feels very specific. Maybe just say “monkey”? Larger nit: the word “puke”, while nicely descriptive, is such a human word, it pulls me out of the story. Could it just make him “sick”?

Intro 4 Title: Natural Selection
Very well written. I was fine up until he calls his first shot to kill the second Dactlyn the “third” and when he misses, his second shot is the fourth. I didn’t quite “get it” on the first read through, and the second time, I couldn’t decide if this was clever or confusing.

Intr0 5 Title: PREYING FOR TIME\
You could almost put “The End” after this and call it micro-flash fiction. It reads like a complete story in 13 lines. For a beginning, I would prefer to take a step back, and work up to this point.

Intro 6 Title: Hunting for Verundi
I think this would be stronger if you didn’t tell us the upcoming trip will be exciting. This feels like a teaser from your 6 o’clock news... “we’ll have the exciting details right after these commercials. Stay tuned!” Otherwise, this is solid, and based on the synopsis, starts at the logical place. The interaction with the Berian in a casino is the incident that “hooks” the character into the story.

Intro 7 Title: Without A Paddle
I’m a bit overwhelmed. The first paragraph is good. The action is clearly described, and I’m interested in what will happen. But then the story brings in a “guide” and a “homing chit” and a “prototype” and a “multi-purpose knife”, and I’m left scratching my head. It feels like too much to dump on me too soon. I’d be more hooked if the opening just stuck to the scene at hand.

Intro 8 Title: Great White Hunter Hunting
That’s a lot of new words to learn! The prose is smooth and it flows beautifully. If the first line were eliminated and the jargon toned down in the rest, I feel this would have a strong hook. “Clung-Yung-Yung, the N-Dimensional Luton” sounds like the title from some long lost speculative Dr. Suess story.

Entry # 9 Title: Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning
I like it. Simple and to the point, it creates a hook. The Jurassic Park reference felt a bit cliché, and the line “despite the ill feelings of earlier” made me say “huh?” Also I don’t know who/what “Torak” is/was. Was it a character from Jurassic Park?

Entry # 10 Title: A Guided Lure
Good! There’s action and tension, but I’m not overwhelmed. The hook is there. Alas, I’m trying desperately but failing miserably to picture what exactly a “massive continental worm” is or looks like. By any chance, did you pick up a box of ‘em dashes’ on sale this week?

Entry No: 11 Zero Sum Games
I’m hooked and would read on. Love the opening paragraph – sets scene and situation clearly. The rest could be tightened up a bit, but this is a minor quibble. It might read better if it was more concise, but it also might lose some of the tone, which I enjoy.

Entry 12 Under the Blood-Red Sky
Again, I’m hooked and would read on. The prose is top-notch. Perhaps it’s a bit description-heavy? That’s probably forgivable where you’re trying to set scene, but I would imagine once the story kicks in, the pace would pick up. I don’t think everything has to be described in such detail.

Entry 13 Title: There's No Payout in This Game
A great place to start. The voice sets this apart and brings the focus strongly on the character – you either like this style or hate it. Hopefully the story is strong enough to overcome any objections to the POV. Sebastian is portrayed as a “player”, cold and calculating… can enough compassion for him be developed to enable the reader to care about what happens to him?

Entry #: 14 Title: A Berian Moon
I’m repeating myself, but again, I’m hooked and would read on. Good dialogue. Good description of action/setting. Flows well. Technical quibble: in the phrase “its pores expanding”, I read the its as referring to the dart, when I believe you meant the animal’s pores.

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And the envelope please...

FIRST: 14: A Berian Moon
SECOND: 11: Zero Sum Games
THIRD: 3: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood

BEST TITLE: 5: PREYING FOR TIME

 


Posted by skadder (Member # 6757) on :
 
Final votes please. Non-voters next week with be posted on The Ship's Punishment Roll. You don't want to go there--it will be mildly mocking!
 
Posted by Tiergan (Member # 7852) on :
 
Sorry only have time for the votes:

Best title: 12 - Under a Blood Red Sky

1st - Entry 4 - Natural Selection
2nd - Entry 7 - Without a Paddle
3rd - Entry 5 - Preying for Time

Good Job all.
 


Posted by Bent Tree (Member # 7777) on :
 
Intro 1 Title: Beating the Odds
I really enjoy the dialogue and the development of the characters. This dives straight into the scene with good prose. I would read on.

Intro 2 Title: Weapons Expert
The first paragraph is very strong in my opinion, but the second seems to counteract the feeling building towards the heroism of the character. It seems to me the hero wouldn’t be susceptible to adrenaline affecting him to do something chips and cameras. I need him to be level headed enough to do so. He isn’t diffusing a bomb.

Intro 3 Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood
Good prose, especially toward the end, but it did little to generate interest in the plot. The movement felt a little uncertain and unsteady.

Intro 4 Title: Natural Selection
The ‘List’ didn’t quite do it for me. It felt like a play by play replay.

Intr0 5 Title: [PREYING FOR TIME

Great action and suspenseful last line. I would read on, although there were some issues with prose.

Intro 6 Title: Hunting for Verundi
Good hook. Solid intro. I would turn the page.

Intro 7 Title: Without A Paddle

Great tone and pace. I found the prose exceptional. I would definitely turn the page.

Intro 8 Title: Great White Hunter Hunting

Another interesting hook, one of my faves. It was a little busy, but I would continue.

Entry # 9
Title: "Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning."
The main gripe I had with this was the pop culture reference. It really seemed to date this piece. Otherwise I liked the subtle lead-in. It felt like a movie script, but in a good way. The long paragragh breaks gave me a chance to imagine the scene. Nice title too.

Title: A Guided Lure

Definitely the best pick for title. Also one of the top picks. It left questions in a good way, a compelling lure, much the same as the title.
Entry No: 11
Zero Sum Games
This one didn’t do that much for me. I found the pace a little to expedient, and it never really got to a solid hook.

Entry 12
Under the Blood-Red Sky
I didn’t find much about this compelling. It was written ok, just a little slow in my opinion.

Entry 13
Title: There's No Payout in This Game
Ooohhh! This one is dark and luring. I like the first person. So far the top pick.

Entry #: 14
Title: A Berian Moon.
I like. I enjoyed that Bishop is a female in this one. It led to an interesting dark character.


First Pick:
Entry 13
Title: There's No Payout in This Game

Second Pick:
Entry 10
Title: A Guided Lure

Third Pick:
Entry #: 14
Title: A Berian Moon.

Best Title:
A Guided Lure
Entry 10

 


Posted by skadder (Member # 6757) on :
 
Pick one: Entry 13: There's No Payout in This Game

Pick Two: Entry 14: A Berian Moon

Pick Three: Intro 4: Natural Selection


Best Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood


 


Posted by skadder (Member # 6757) on :
 
Voting now closed. Benttree has the results--can snapper forward to him the names of the people he posted so Scott knows who is who.

Scott will post the results tomorrow (or I will if he is unavailable).

Adam
 


Posted by Bent Tree (Member # 7777) on :
 
I apologize for the conflict in the contest extention and my spur of the moment vacation. Thank the counsil for taking up the slack and not making me walk the plank.

I do not have the names for entry 12&13. Snapper if you would be so kind as to edit them in, that would be great, and thanks again for grabbing the reins in my absence. Congrats to the winners. They were all very good. It is getting more difficult to judge as everyone improves.


Winner: #14 ‘A Berian Moon’ – by Illiterate (29 points)

Second #10 ‘A Guided Lure’ – by skadder (23 points)

Third # 3 ‘The Taste of Terran Heart Blood – by KathyTon (20 points)

Best Title – Drawn: ‘Preying for Time’; ‘Without a Paddle’; ‘A Guided Lure’.

Intro 1 Title: Beating the Odds by Snapper
Intro 2 Title Weapons Expertby Unwritten
Intro 3 Title: The Taste of Terran Heart Blood by KathyTon
Intro 4 Title: Natural Selectionby JustinProse
Intr0 5 Title:PREYING FOR TIMEbyStammsp
Intro 6 Title:Hunting for VerundibyMrs. Brown
Intro 7 Title:Without A PaddlebyInarticulate Babbler
Intro 8 Title:Great White Hunter Huntingby Extrinsic
Entry 9 Title: Red Sky In Morning...All Take Warning.
by Tiergan
Entry 10 Title: A Guided Lure by Skadder
Entry 11 Title:Zero Sum Game By AnnePin
Entry 12 Title:Under the Blood-Red Sky by Wolfe boy
Entry 13:Title: There's No Payout in This GameJeff M
Entry 14 Title:A Berian Moonby Illiterate

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Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
 
I'll admit that I was responsible for #12.

Good work everyone. Congrats to the winners.

Jayson Merryfield
 


Posted by Unwritten (Member # 7960) on :
 
That was the hardest 13 lines I've ever done. I've never tried to write science fiction before. It was fun, and I learned a lot. Good job, Bent Tree and the whole 13 line staff.
 
Posted by Tiergan (Member # 7852) on :
 
Congrats to the winners.
 
Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Congrats! Nice work, everyone.
 
Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
Jayson. I just had to mention this:

quote:

That said, there are POV issues here (We dodged?)

How is "We dodged" a PoV violation for 1st person? Have you never said "We drove down to..." or "We were having a good time..."? Does that make it any less from your PoV?
 


Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
 
In retrospect, it probably isn't a POV issue, just a perception thing for me. If we're in Sebastian's POV, and he's being shot at, I don't see him worrying a whole lot about what direction Bishop is diving in. Lord knows if you and I were caught in a shootout, I'm more worried about my own skin than yours, at least until I know I'm safe. If he's recollecting these actions to someone after the fact, I could see the cooler detachment, but in the midst of high action?

That said, I don't know that it's really a POV thing, just my impression.

Jayson Merryfield

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Posted by extrinsic (Member # 8019) on :
 
"We" isn't a point of view issue, but it focused me in on it, too. It had me thinking the narrator was first person plural. Number, not person or point of view, threw me a curve that I hoped would develop in later context and deepen my interest if I'd read on. For me, "we" created a resonance with the conspiratorial we narrator of William Faulkner's "A Rose for Emily." My intrepretation of the narrative posture for that story is that it's the town's gossip, which is at the core of the figurative meaning of the story. Voyeurism and scandal, delicious motifs.

However, reading on I did sense that we meant just Bishop and Sebastian from an us against them type of perspective.
 


Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
quote:

If he's recollecting these actions to someone after the fact, I could see the cooler detachment

Uh..this has to be true of 1st person, past tense.

Not to be annoying, but:

quote:

Lord knows if you and I were caught in a shootout, I'm more worried about my own skin than yours, at least until I know I'm safe.

That is a perfectly reasonable way of thinking, however, I wouldn't feel that way. In fact, I've had occassion to take a proverbial "bullet" for a friend and have, unquestioningly. Some people automatically think of their own safety, others' first thoughts are to protect. I guess, heroes don't think normally.

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Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
 
extrinsic seems to have put his finger on what struck me but I was completely unable to put it into words. I interpreted We to be plural, to be dumped straight back into singular. My thinking didn't have anything to do with Sebastian's desire to save Bishop or vice versa, just that the thought he had was plural, as opposed to "I dove for cover," or "I dove next to Bishop for cover." I'm not going to argue that I was correct, or that there's anything wrong with it, since we both know that I was wrong. Since no one other than me seems to have thought this thought and cared enough about it to point it out, there are two obvious conclusions here. A - it really doesn't matter, or equally valid, B - Jayson is an insufferable prick and likes to nitpick on the most minute things that he notices.

In my opinion, the smart money is on B.

Jayson Merryfield

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Posted by MrsBrown (Member # 5195) on :
 
Okay, me too. Folks said that #6 Hunting for Verundi was too telling. I agree with knocking off the first two teaser sentences; they were an experiment to see what ya'll thought.

Is that enough, or does the third sentence need to change? And then is it okay? (From a show/tell standpoint; I realize it could probably use more conflict, action, etc.)

Can a teaser ever work? (Link to existing thread preferred.)

P.S. I was not trying to be tricky with the spacing. The submission was all nice and neat, spaces where they belonged.

P.S.S. Extrinsic, I appreciate the intent of your critiques. And thanks to everyone who made the crit effort!
 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
Whoa, whoa, slow down with the self deprecation there, Wolfe_Boy! I'm glad you made that point. While I didn't notice it at the time, I know I've read similar passages in which I had. Also, I feel like the ensuing exchange has helped enlighten me on a further nuance which I hadn't considered before. So I, at least, have gained something, and that's what we're all here for, right? Open exchange? Friendly discourse?

Mrs. B, what do you mean by a teaser? I would define it as anything that foreshadows a future event. Based on your context, I'm thinking it means something closer to a statement of facts to come? Either way, I think the answer is yes, though I can't think of an existing thread. A search might pop one up (sorry, too lazy to do it myself!)

I think the third sentence of your entry starts you off in a good place.

<and to defend myself against the charge that I was trying to sneak more stuff into the first 13 by dropping letters---come on, really? So I can get three more letters in? I really can't think of three letters that would be enough to make someone turn the page, if what came before wasn't! Call it what it is: sloppiness, laziness, poor editing.>
 


Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
 
You're glad I made the pooint that I'm an insufferable prick? I suppose it saves others for having to point it out for me.

MrsBrown, I'm taking another pass at your entry.... and I am once again revising my critique. (Lord, maybe I need to spend a little more time on them in the first place!) With the exorcism of the first two lines, the telling doesn't bother me as much. I'm not a terrific fan of opening lines like that, so if they went the way of the dodo, I'd be happier. Now, with the removal of those two lines, maybe the next two lines would stimulate some interest in me? The way the guard introduces the Berian doesn't pique my interest, and neither does the poker. In my opinion, to start at this point in the story, you need to nail the mood of danger and adventure, or really nail a character or two. Right now, I'm reading weak attempts at both of those.

Jayson Merryfield
 


Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
Jayson, I wasn't coming down on you or anything. 1) I wanted clarification and 2) Discussion. I value your opinion--or I wouldn't have asked you to clarify.

I thought I validated your opinion of "self-preservation", and offered another view, too. I honestly don't believe there's necessarily a right or wrong in perception, just trying to work stuff out.


 


Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
 
If I sound exasperated, IB, it's just at myself. My critiquing skills are a bit off lately, and my writing output (creative writing, I shoudl say) has dropped to nil.

Working things out helps me as much as I hope it's helped you.

Jayson Merryfield
 


Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
Everybody has their spells, Jayson. I didn't mean to single you out per se, just clarify something for one of us. Lord knows I've put my boot in my mouth over tense (especially once, with tired eyes, I mis-corrected JeanneT on tense when it was simply the participle she was using).

Anyway, no harm, nor foul (fowl?).

MrsBrown, although I didn't comment on it then, I thought I could help clarify:

quote:

Sebastian Conte loved to gamble; the higher the stakes, the better.<--[Telling us, infodump-ish exposition. Not showing us him betting with an other patron on how many seconds a roulette wheel would spin and which waitress would make the next rounds.] Who knew the expedition to Vos would be the most exciting gamble of his life? <--[Distant. Narrator involving the reader.]

It started at his private poker table, in the Shangrai La hotel orbiting Sentari Five.<--[In the preceding vein.] Sebastian tucked away his cards and eyed his chief weapons designer, Frank Bishop.<--[This is not distant.] A flush should win, but with his luck tonight Bishop would lay down four aces. No guts, no glory. Sebastian slid two stacks of water credits across the green velvet.<--[This is good mood-through-characterization.]

“Sir.” Sebastian’s bodyguard whispered in his ear. “A Berian wants to see you. Says he has the opportunity of a lifetime.”


I guess sometimes an infodump or static beginning can really set the tone for a reader. After the first three sentences, It was fine for me.
 


Posted by kathyton (Member # 7780) on :
 
Congratulations to the Capt'n and to everyone that entered. I agree that the field of entrants was particularly strong this week. Tough decisions.

I owe the following people crits:

intro 1: beating the odds: Excellent characterizations, and I always like to see a scene right up front. from this I'd expect that the cheating was the inciting incident. I might keep reading, thinking that there will be some development on that front. But no eminent danger looms, I don't see a particular conflict, nothing the POV characters are striving for right now.

intro 2: weapons expert. Good prose, nice characterization. I hope the Sebastian pulls himself together soon and gives the narrator someone to talk to; listening to thoughts gets boring. Like many of the entries, I felt like I had missed a scene--

intro 4: natural selection. Opens in scene, and I could really see this scene. nice cadence to sentences. Perhaps due to the rooting interest in my own entry, Bishop seemed cruel and unsympathetic.

intro 5: Preying for time. Opens in scene, good. Great sensory image and good prose. The time freeze weapon would be the hook for me. Again, I feel like I missed a page of manuscript.

intro 6: Hunting for verundi. The expository opening sounds a little --- I don't know. Old-fashioned? Easy reader level? Not bad in itself, but not pulling its weight to get me into the story. I like how the the rest characterizes the guys just enough the set up the Berian and his challenge, which is the intriguing hook. You got to it nicely, smoothly, right up front. good.

intro 7:without a paddle. Again, good action scene -- "where did I drop that first page?" the reader thinks. nice prose, excellent problems to confront. You've really "got them up a tree, throwing rocks" as the famous advice tells us.

intro 8:great white hunter hunting. opens in scene, which I think is most successful. good prose, but the extensive alien language vocabulary took me out of it. Like the detail of the targeting dot at the end as they confront the story problem .

intro 12:blood-red sky. I liked being grounded in the scene with the good descriptive details at the beginning. It's a little long though, and we don't feel any conflict or tension. I don't know what their problem is, what they want, Etc.

intro 13: there's no payout: Good characterization. I like the scene -- just enough detail -- and you get to the Berian and his hook. Nothing technically wrong; sometimes it just comes down to personal preferences.

intro 14: berian moon -- Good scene. I felt like I'd missed a paragraph or two before this -- like the dart and the Dtydactlyn. I like that Bishop is a woman; changes the dynamic.
 


Posted by annepin (Member # 5952) on :
 
quote:
My critiquing skills are a bit off lately, and my writing output (creative writing, I shoudl say) has dropped to nil.


I've been feeling the same way, lately!
 
Posted by extrinsic (Member # 8019) on :
 
MrsBrown,

My intent was not one of eleemosynary purposes. (Yes, I did use a solidly molybdenum word. More anon.) No, my intent is self-serving. In critiguing, I've set myself the challenge of finding the best of any writing while avoiding any subjective or sentimental judgments. My purposes in this exercise are to explore the techniques of and the audience responses to hooks. Teasing hooks out of stories written by others expands my tool kit. Approaching the responses of the audience with an open mind allows me to evaluate audience preferences for hook techniques. Lastly, my least intent was to present a tempering viewpoint.

On a side note, I like melliflous prosody in fable and fairytale stories, less so in hard science fiction. Melliflous prosody in an opening tells me what the mode, mood, and structure of story I'm reading will be. (Oh yeah, a rhetorical scheme of erudition--melliflous prosody, eleemosynary.)

Not every reader likes to be grabbed by the throat at the beginning of a story. In fact, my research suggests the opposite is a more valid representation of the global reading audience's preference. However, emerging writers thrive on writing and expounding upon profound thrills.

In Verundi, I saw much figurative meaning that lent attention to hooking readers at a narrow level of reading: hypertonically close readers. Figurative meaning frequently makes it onto the page through the intuitions and instincts of writers' subconscious minds. If the writer is unaware of the figurative meaning, critically focusing on it might overcome the first or last hurdle to merging it into the story so it enhances the intended literal meaning of a story. Literary allusions, symbolism, imagery, rhetorical schemes and tropes, whatever method of relaying figurative meaning, as long as it's not impenetrable and is consistent and relevant, enhances the literal meaning of a story.

The expository opening of Verundi is a subjective point of focus. Opening with reflective narratorial exposition tells me the narrator might not be an invisible character in the story. Observer effect indicates that if the narrator is part of the story, the narrator will influence the circumstances of the story or take a stance toward the topic. The narrator's attitude toward the story's topic is the tone element of story. The default in most modern fiction stories is an invisible narrator, thus avoiding development of a story's overall tone altogether. The expository opening in Verundi didn't grab me by the throat to good or bad effect. However, as a writer, I am interested to see how a narrator features in any given story.
 


Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
quote:

My intent was not one of eleemosynary purposes.

So, your intent was not to be beneficial to MrsBrown?

quote:

(Yes, I did use a solidly molybdenum word. More anon.)

You used a "solidly" shiny-metal-alloy word? Is that a metaphor for a "flashy" word? Do you normally take a more vermiculate approach? Are you intentionally trying to obfuscate?

quote:

Melliflous prosody in an opening tells me what the mode, mood, and structure of story I'm reading will be.

Uh..you misspelled Mellifluous.

I don't know how many of us pay attention to the melodious intonations of the prose, as much as of the smoothness of voice and pace. Here, there is not a current study of syllabic and sub-syllabic tone, sonantal (phonetics), or resonance of etymological sources, mores the pity. When I first heard about the way resonance affected Tolkien's writing (among many others), it had a ripple effect on my imagination.

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Posted by MrsBrown (Member # 5195) on :
 
LOL! I need to break out a dictionary. Not sure I'm so inclined at the moment, but my curiosity is piqued.

Are you suggesting that tone cannot be established without an obvious (uh, intrusive?) narrator? Couldn't characters express tone? But then I guess each character brings his own viewpoint (with tone) to the table. I guess its just one more aspect of writing that I don't have a handle on yet...

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Posted by extrinsic (Member # 8019) on :
 
Inarticulate Babbler,

My intent in all my hook comments was to not be charitably praising but encouraging, and at the same time address the purposes of the exercise from an egalitarian approach, identify what hooked me most.

Molybdenum is a dense, hard, brittle metal. Molybdenum as a metaphor for torturous or obfuscatory words, that was my rhetorical intent for using molybdenum and eleemosynary. I'll leave my rhetorical purpose unstated and subject to individual interpretations.

Misspellings and other mechanical issues don't usually escape my notice. I'm extra careful to verify spellings due to my poor eyesight. A computer screen falls right in the blind spot of my myopia-correcting prescription glasses and my reading glasses' range. I double-checked mellifluous on the Webster's dictionary application resident on my computer and still managed to misspell it.

MrsBrown,

No, a narrator with an attitude toward a topic is not an exclusively obvious one. A narrator's tone can be as invisible as the narrator. Rhetorical tropes and schemes, modifying words and phrases convey a narratorial tone, sometimes so invisibly that the reader doesn't notice their emotions are being manipulated. A black hat was a symbol for distinguishing the villain from the white-hat hero in black and white Western movies.

Personifying everyday objects as repulsive demonstrates the narrator's attitude toward them, yet the character experiencing the object might have a different attitude. A case in point from my experience, rotting fish smells like delightful money, but people who've never made a living from fishing universally find the odor objectionable.
 


Posted by InarticulateBabbler (Member # 4849) on :
 
quote:

My intent in all my hook comments was to not be charitably praising but encouraging, and at the same time address the purposes of the exercise from an egalitarian approach, identify what hooked me most.

Molybdenum is a dense, hard, brittle metal. Molybdenum as a metaphor for torturous or obfuscatory words, that was my rhetorical intent for using molybdenum and eleemosynary. I'll leave my rhetorical purpose unstated and subject to individual interpretations.


extrinsic, that's the problem with using $5:00 words when a $.10 word would be clearer. Molybdenum could be a metaphor for any number of things, some might not have even understood the metaphor if you used a more commonly thought of kind of hard-metal, and it obfiscated the meaning of your comments for MrsBrown. That's why I interjected anything at all.

Pointing out the misspelling/typo was more for humor purposes, because it was another uncommon word. (Thus the grin: )

Lol - edited to put the first "i" in "pointing".

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