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SaltireFlower
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posted October 14, 2009 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaltireFlower     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone. This is going to be my first critique online ever. I'm on the second edit, so I just want a critique of the first 13 lines.


Colt’s grave is on the other side of the tall oak tree, behind St. Lucy’s, the old Negro church. Red’s grave is right beside it. Mine will lie beside his. Not much sunlight reaches this part of the cemetery, but I can just make out my brothers’ names on their gravestones with my only good eye wide open. It doesn't matter that their full names are a blur to me, I know their true names will always be Red and Colt. The cold wind coming in from behind chills my old bones, and more and more now, the joints ache for days, and my bones rub together. My only daughter Rose, used to beg me to use a cane, but we don’t speak much anymore. It’s not her business why I haven’t crossed 21st Street into the Italian part of Chicago since 1941. It's not her business why I go to confession more than a

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tchernabyelo
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posted October 14, 2009 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tchernabyelo   Click Here to Email tchernabyelo     Edit/Delete Message
There's much to hook here, but it felt a little over-dense after a while, as if I was being hit with too much teasing introspection rather than any hint of the progression of a story.

"my only good eye" is a tautology for a human - you only need to say "my good eye" because it is instantly implicit that the other is not good. Someone with more than two eyes might need to indicate they only have one left that's functional, but I don't think that's the case here.

"My only daughter Rose, used to beg me" - that comma is invalid. You could say either "My only daughter, Rose, used to beg me" or "My only daughter Rose used to beg me".

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genevive42
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posted October 14, 2009 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for genevive42   Click Here to Email genevive42     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that it gets a little dense. And the quantity of names, even though some are repeated, makes it feel like there's going to be a lot to keep track of and we're only in the first thirteen lines.

Colt x 3, St.Lucy's, Red x 3, Rose, Donny = 9 names in thirteen lines.

I don't mind stories with a lot of characters but I'd like to be introduced to them at a more reasonable pace.

I think the most interesting line and the best hook for me is, "It's not her business why I go to confession more than a father should". This had me asking questions about just what he was into. The promise to answer this is what would get me to read further.

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Kolona
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posted October 14, 2009 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kolona   Click Here to Email Kolona     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe a little name-dense, but I liked it. It has an early sense of character and a nice coherency. Ordinarily I'd suggest commas before and after the names Rose and Donny, but I think the flow as you have it characterizes the old gent better. You might break this into two paragraphs for better readability, but also to give a less rushed feel, as befitting an old man. I've trimmed just a few of the names below to see if the passage reads less densely. You decide.

Colt’s grave is on the other side of the tall oak tree, behind the old Negro church. Red’s grave is right beside it. Mine will lie beside his. Not much sunlight reaches this part of the cemetery, but I can just make out my brothers’ names on their gravestones with my good eye wide open. It doesn't matter that their full names are a blur to me. I know their true names will always be Red and Colt.
The cold wind coming in from behind chills my old bones, and more and more now, the joints ache for days, and my bones rub together. My only daughter Rose used to beg me to use a cane, but we don’t speak much anymore. It’s not her business why I haven’t crossed 21st Street into the Italian part of Chicago since 1941. It's not her business why I go to confession more than a father should. She should be asking her husband Donny why he’s stopped looking me dead in the eye when he says my brothers’ names. She should ask her father’s right hand man why he stopped calling me “boss” all of a sudden.

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NoTimeToThink
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posted October 15, 2009 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoTimeToThink   Click Here to Email NoTimeToThink     Edit/Delete Message
I'll echo the others about too much being thrown in at the start - begins to feel like an info dump. Also, I think you could shorten the descrption of where the brothers are buried so you can more quickly get to your hooks (confession, Italian side, Rose's husband, boss). Nice characterization.

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SaltireFlower
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posted October 19, 2009 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaltireFlower     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks so much for all the feedback. I'm working on trying to make the opening less dense, and I'm going to get rid of a character that doesn't add anything to the plot. I probably wouldn't have had the courage to consider it without all these suggestions.

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abozzo64
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posted November 02, 2009 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abozzo64     Edit/Delete Message
how about "my one eye." that was the only hang up for me.

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