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WBSchmidt Member |
Welcome to this week's Novel Support Group (NSG). Anyone can join. If you're new, tell us a bit about who you are and what project you are working on. Although we can report on any number of things, here is a list of suggestions (suggestions welcomed).
Here is a list of things that you can do each week as we work on our novels (suggestions welcomed).
=-=-=-=-= Last Week's Goals My goals for next week:
I think I need to slow down a bit. Most of my problems currently exist due to a lack of planning. I will plan the next small section of this novel before moving on to writing. I get so eager to write that I don't put enough effort into the development of the story. Some writers can do that, write organically with a blank sheet of paper. That is not me. What did I learn this week? --William IP: Logged |
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Meredith Member |
Last week was slow for me, too. Last Week's Goals: Keep working on Dreamer's Rose. Finish chapter five and get at least half-way through chapter six. Work on the query letter and synopsis for The Shaman's Curse. I'm not going to look at the other three novellas I set aside. This Week's Goals: Dreamer's Rose Synopsis and Query for The Shaman's Curse The Fairy's Kiss A new short story I started while avoiding Dreamer's Rose. It's at just over a thousand words and maybe a quarter to a third complete (in first draft, of course). So, try to get another thousand words into it. (BTW, a fairy's kiss is the name for a type of marking on corgis, a spot of color surrounded by white on the dog's forehead. I have two corgis who happen to appear in this story. What can I say, the idea came to me while I was walking them. I'm still open to another chapter exchange on Book Two, if anybody is interested. [This message has been edited by Meredith (edited July 10, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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satate Member |
Ha, I did worse than you all. I didn't even write one bit. I read over chapter two and thought "This stinks!" Then stared at the words while occasionally looking over at Brandon Sanderson's book three of the Mistborn trilogy. The book sat next to my computer and stared at me, tempting me. So I gave up trying to make chapter two better and took myself to my bed to read. This week I'm being more realistic. I'm not even going to try to write. My goals - Read the rest of Book three and pack up my house. I'm moving in two weeks and I think I'm just going to have to put writing on hold until our move is finished. IP: Logged |
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Natej11 Member |
* What were your goals last week and did you accomplish them? My goals last week were to finish off a first draft of my novel and get the synopsis done. I wasn't expecting to get it done in a week's time, of course. Which is probably a good thing >.<. * Describe what you worked on. * Set goals for next week. * Did you learn something during this week? By the by, sorry for butting into this NSG thing without introducing myself. I'm Nate Jones. I've been writing for about 11 years now. It's one of my favorite hobbies, bordering on an obsession when I get really into a story I'm writing. I was pretty active on the Hatrack forums in...March, I think it was, and then I lost access to the internet and shelved writing for a bit. (By the by, Meridith, I think I promised to critique something of yours and then fell through. Can't remember for sure, but if I did sorry.) Going on from that parenthetical and Meredith's chapter swapping offer...sure! I'd love to swap chapters, although I'll have to talk to you about content (Worlds Collide gets a bit gory in places, although it's pretty clean on everything else.) IP: Logged |
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Meredith Member |
@Natej11--Yeah, I think that was an earlier version of my synopsis. You may get another chance if I keep to my goals. ![]() I don't read much hard sf (if that's what your story is), but at some level, a story is a story. We can give a chapter exchange a try. I'm not ridiculously squeamish, but I'm not a fan of gore for it's own sake. It has to have a purpose in the story or I'll put it down pretty quickly. And I really don't much want to read about eyeballs popping out or things like that. IP: Logged |
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shimiqua Member |
I had a dream when I was a little kid that everyones eyeballs kept popping out of their heads, and the eyeballs were actually little white worms with pupils for mouths. Weird weird dream. Made me afraid to close my eyes, I though my pupils would eat through my eyelids. Yep, I was eight. So... I actually did pretty good this week. I finished the edit for Dragon Fate chapter one and prolouge, and I gotta say it's looking good. I'm liking it. Hope chapter two doesn't take me this long to edit. Goals for this week. [This message has been edited by shimiqua (edited July 10, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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Natej11 Member |
My writing is purely fantasy at the moment ^^. I've tried SF, but it seems to have fallen out of fashion and to be honest I like fantasy more anyway. As for the gore, I don't go out of my way to include it. I just put in enough to show what a terrible situation they're in starting out, and most of my story doesn't have any. IP: Logged |
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annepin Member |
Last week:
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Crank Member |
LAST WEEK Current: Revise the "Metzgerhund Empire" synopsis, as needed. Goal: Resume submissions. Currently, the synopsis is being critted by a few trusted people, so during that time I substituting the actual submitting portion of my goal with researching more potential agents. I done goodly.
I find it amusing how I interpret physics text when I'm exhausted. Also of note: based on the feedback I received from a few of my fellow Hatrackers, I've come to the conclusion that this novel's opening scene sucks. Actually, I already knew that. However, the comments showed me that I neglected to present one important piece of info to the reader. Duh on me.
I didn't reach my quantity-based goal, but the quality of the work I performed on this task makes me very happy. Oh...add to my list of last week's accomplishments: I made an important decision concerning my mainstream novel's order of events. Hmmmm...I told myself I was going to keep that novel shelved for a while, but, hey...my kids don't listen to me, so why should I? UPCOMING WEEK I should go light on my expectations because the upcoming workload at my "real" job is expected to be brutal. Nah! Current: Revise the "Metzgerhund Empire" synopsis, as needed. Current: Continue my SF studying and researching. Current: Continue workload on my "main project" S! IP: Logged |
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Kitti Member |
I didn't officially set goals last week, b/c by Friday I was so dead tired I couldn't be bothered to even start up my computer. But if I had, my goals would have been sleep, sleep, and then more sleep. Success! This week's goals: IP: Logged |
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MAP Member |
Wow, I am impressed that so most of you are working on so many different projects at a time. I just got my one no name novel. I did pretty good this week. I finally got to a point where my first draft of my novel actually meshed with my new draft, so I cut and pasted some scenes that fit with just a little tweaking. It was nice to have a large increase in page numbers with little effort, very satisfying. Goals for next week, finish another chapter. [This message has been edited by MAP (edited July 11, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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Heidi New Member |
Well, I've had worse weeks . . . 1. Write everyday: 2. Read research I've collected: 3. Finish first draft of novel by the end of August: IP: Logged |
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BenM Member |
Meredith, if you want another brain to pick regarding Shaman's Curse, email me. My goal was to continue plotting my novel. I did this, and went one step further: I worked out how many chapters per day I need to plot, and set up a progress tracker on my blog. I'm working on a sort of SF/contemporary thriller. This is a ploy to get myself to pay closer attention to plot in my writing. As such it's plot-heavy and the plotting stage has taken far, far longer than previous projects. I wrote a query-type synopsis for the purpose of clarifying my goals and also as a reference with which to compare the finished story eventually (such comparisons often being comical once my stories have been finished - and evolved into something completely different). I also researched Google spreadsheet integration so I could graph my wordcount progress on my blog once I start writing. There's nothing like a public confession of one's inability to meet one's goals. Plot 14 chapters. Keep job. Keep wife happy. Bend over backwards for children. Sleep. Quantify my goals into something measurable. And wear earplugs when sleeping. [This message has been edited by BenM (edited July 12, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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JohnMac Member |
Last week - I think I hit it pretty solidly. I got all of Chapter three done and only have one scene left in Chapter four of Bitrazer. This week...simple. Finish Chapter four. Write Chapter five. What I learned last week that I'll apply this week - Write more talk less, and ignore idle office chatter. -John IP: Logged |
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Jaz Member |
Well since I'm new to these parts - I've mostly lurked in the Open Discussions forum, as well as a couple of brief forays into Fragments and Feedback - I figured I should do a quick into first. Me: Not much to say. There - that's better. Good to get that out of the way, wouldn't want things to get awkward. My WIP - its an adaptation of a short story I wrote for a class back in College. It has morphed from a 8 page single-spaced short story to a 40 page single-spaced novellette, to its present incarnation which is over 60 pages and not even 1/6 of the way through. Its been my baby, in once form or another, for nearly 10 years now, although this is the first time in years I've actually given it focus and finally feel able to write it as a novel. Although I still can't, for the life of me, come up with a suitable title for it. This past week I finished Chapter 4 and did some research for Chapter 5. The research has opened up new avenues for the story to take and have gotten me really excited. My goal for this week is to get a rough draft of Chapter 5 done and start to put it to type. This will be interesting because its focusing on a character that is only briefly mentioned in the original story but who has gained importance with each re-write. "Come get some - Little Man." IP: Logged |
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Meredith Member |
I put a different take on the short, short query synopsis up in Fragments and Feedback. This one focuses more on the premise of the story and less on the specific events. I'd like to know if this approach works better. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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aspirit Member |
I think everyone here knows who I am, to some extent. If you want an answer to anything about me, please ask. Below is information on my novel-in-progress. Current Working Title: RITN Genre: Uh? Speculative/Supernatural/Paranormal/Romantic/Science Fiction. That’s my best guess. (Very) Rough Synopsis: When a lonely orphan boy meets Corrina, the kind granddaughter of a neighbor, he becomes determined to integrate her into his life. Unfortunately, his life is full of generations-old secrets that could turn the world against him. Can she accept his strange heritage and destiny? Or will she betray his family’s secrets? Status: Rewriting/Redrafting. (What’s the difference between these two terms, anyway?) I’d written about two-thirds of the novel before I couldn’t stomach any more. Parts of the plot were awful. Unfortunately, removing the worst parts left me with few useable scenes. I’m on the third chapter of the rewrite; additionally, I’m creating a new outline and researching historical and scientific details. Other Comments:Is it annoying that I’m secretive about character names? The main character’s name is a bit embarrassing. I tried to change it, but he and his name came from a dream and my subconscious refused to accept anything other than what it gave me. Another possible novel (that I started writing a year or two ago) occupies my thoughts every day, but it’s rarely allowed out of my head. I’m certain it will take control of my life if I focus on it before I’m ready, because it’s huge and extremely complicated. RITN is kind of a practice novel for this other novel, Conscience. IP: Logged |
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aspirit Member |
Last Week’s Goals I didn’t set clear goals. They were either (1) write at least 9 pages of story draft, (2) complete a new draft of chapter 2, or (3) draw a plan of the main setting. Did I accomplish any of these? Yes, almost, and no. Next Week’s Goals Lessons Learned Another lesson: Always give the cat a spare sheet of paper to gnaw on so he doesn’t eat working notes. IP: Logged |
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Meredith Member |
quote: Oh, you have a paper thief, too! Widget used to steal them right out of the printer tray. Everything had little tooth marks in it. IP: Logged |
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annepin Member |
quote: Hah! Now, of course, you have me wondering.... IP: Logged |
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Crank Member |
quote: Not at all. As we used to say on a music board I occasionally visit, "I believe you and support you now."
quote: One afternoon over a decade ago, I took half the day off for a dentist appointment, then came home to pick up my daughter to take her somewhere. While I was waiting, I fell asleep on the couch. In an instant, I saw an unfamiliar planetscape in the background, and an alien in the foreground. The alien said a phrase, most of it mercifully in English, that I've been attempting to recover and decypher ever since. The only word I heard clearly is a word that doesn't exist in any language (so far as I've been able to tell), and it will now be the title of my next SF novel. The subconscious is a great thing! S! [This message has been edited by Crank (edited July 13, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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Jaz Member |
Ok, second try. That last one was so uninformative - not about me, but about my WIP. Genre: Slightly futuristic science-fiction (although there are no aliens, space travel, or flying cars) Synopsis: The world has moved-on and the Government and Church have taken control. Pushed by an incident in which an Artificial Intelligence was created and then forcibly destroyed, they hunt down those responsible for breaking the Creation Laws, while also trying to forget about the A-I Scare. One man vows to not let them, or his students, forget and fights to give a lecture on the subject. IP: Logged |
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BoredCrow Member |
Oh look, it's already Tuesday. Chapter 14 of my novel has been edited; this one, as predicted didn't take me long at all. Yay action chapters! Goals this week: I've been especially entertained by submitting to what Duotrope lists as the 25 toughest fiction markets. It's a win-win situation: if a piece gets accepted, I feel especially good about myself. If I get rejected... well, it was a super-tough market! IP: Logged |
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annepin Member |
Story is luffing at this point. I'm just past the quarter point. My MC has passed through the threshold into the unknown.... but suddenly I find myself at a loss for tension and conflict. Instead, I find myself writing out scenes that need to be in there for plot's sake, yet don't do a whole lot else. Anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I should introduce the villain sooner, or have some subplots? This might solve the too-short problem as well. IP: Logged |
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WBSchmidt Member |
@annepin I have similar issues with my current work. One thing I'm doing is to accentuate the conflict between two of my characters. For example, I have Male Character who wants to blame Female Character for the death one of his sons. This is a conflict between the characters but also within Male Character because Female Character is not directly the cause of his son's death (and deep down he knows this). He wants someone to answer for his son's death but the real person at fault is untouchable. As such, their relationship gets strained at times. So, I add to my "plot scenes" the ongoing conflict over this issue. This conflict may feel like a subplot in a way but it also ties into the main plot. Hope that helps. --William IP: Logged |
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aspirit Member |
I'm a fan of subplots, annepin. If you think you don't have more than your main plot, then maybe taking another look at your side characters will help. Do they hint at a hidden relationship with a main character? Can something happen to them that mirrors or foreshadows a major scene? IP: Logged |
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Natej11 Member |
Doing chapter exchange on an incomplete novel has really helped me nail down the plot line. Where I hit gaps in the story I have to make executive decisions about what to put in or whether to shuffle things around a bit. So far it's been working out pretty good, as long as I don't write myself into a corner at some point in the future. IP: Logged |
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annepin Member |
In case it got lot on the other thread, I want to say again here, thanks guys, for the suggestions and support. I'm toying with subplots. IP: Logged |
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