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WBSchmidt
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posted October 02, 2009 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WBSchmidt   Click Here to Email WBSchmidt     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to this week's Novel Support Group (NSG). Anyone can join. If you're new, tell us a bit about who you are and what project you are working on. Although we can report on any number of things, here is a list of suggestions (suggestions welcomed).

  • What were your goals last week and did you accomplish them?
  • Describe what you worked on.
  • Set goals for next week.
  • Did you learn something during this week?

Here is a list of things that you can do each week as we work on our novels (suggestions welcomed).

  • Writing on a novel
  • Characterization
  • World Building
  • Relevant research

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Last Week's Goals

I got as far as I could on the outline for my current book, Project: Hero. The final act is still sparse on details so I may need to set this one aside for a while. The story for this novel has changed so much and it still feels like the main character is merely floating along with the events instead of acting on her own. Very little cause and effect, unfortunately.

My goals for next week:

  • Premise
  • Theme
  • Story Summary

This week I will start working on some ideas for another book I've been thinking about, Project: Life. This one will stretch my writing skills because it will require significant flashbacks. I have not written anything with flashbacks before.

I'm quite enthusiastic about this other novel. This new project is completely new and fresh, whereas Project: Hero was something I've had for well over a decade. I think that Project: Hero has been fighting me because I have some story elements that I refuse to let go. That could be why I'm having so much difficulty with the outline. I'm unable to kill my darlings on that one.

Starting something completely new will be a nice change.

What did I learn this week?

Not much. Perhaps I've learned that sometimes you need to work on something different. I won't know until I finish Project: Life, if I do. Here's to hoping.

--William

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Meredith
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posted October 02, 2009 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meredith   Click Here to Email Meredith     Edit/Delete Message
I've had a pretty good week.

Last Week's Goals:

Dreamer's Rose: Let it rest.
This time I failed on this goal. I think just possibly, I might have found the way forward. I've started tentatively writing and revising on this one again.

The Shaman's Curse: Get through chapters one through five with the checklists just for characterization, pov, and dialog mechanics.
Not quite. But I did get through the first three chapters. It's pretty tough slogging sometimes. Hopefully, I'm learning something and giving this an extra shiny layer of polish before it goes out again.

The Ignored Prophecy: Revisions.
I did. I did. And before I got to those chapters for the chapter exchange, too. Of course, going through it again gave me ideas for a couple of other revisions, but one of those would be a major change so I need to think through its ramifications before I proceed.

Blood Will Tell: Let it rest so I can come at the revisions with a fresh eye.
Yep. Finally got the characters to take a vacation.

Other:
Well, since I got (hopefully) rolling on Dreamer's Rose again, I didn't tackle any of this miscellaneous stuff. And I'm not sorry, either.

This Week's Goals:

Dreamer's Rose:
I'm going back through what I had, roughly alternating POV chapters between my two main characters, at least at the start. This is back to its original starting point--much later than what I was struggling with--and the parts of the male MC's backstory that need to come out will be brought in as I go. I still have some of that to work out. The new, revised first thirteen are at the bottom of this post.

The Shaman's Curse:
Go through chapters four and five with the checklists for characterization, POV, and dialog. Go back to chapter one with the checklists for how it sounds, interior monologue, and beats. I'm also playing around with the query again.

The Ignored Prophecy:
Let this one rest except for the chapter exchange. I think my revision idea would improve and tighten the story. But it would have implications that would run through the whole thing. I need to think it through.

Blood Will Tell:
Continue to let it rest before going back for the revisions.

What I learned:
I kind of snuck this in in an edit to last week's update. But it really belongs here.

  • I don't like writing in first person.
  • I may have found at least a partial answer to how to handle Dreamer's Rose by reading THE CURSE OF CHALION by Lois McMaster Bujold and seeing how she handled a damaged hero. My story is different. But the plan of attack just might work.

Dreamer's Rose, first thirteen
Lerian watched the little cottage from the shadow of a huge maple tree. He was all dressed in browns and greens himself, so he was sure that the woman and her daughters could not see him. He watched the three of them plant their tiny garden plot and go about the daily business of a small, isolated farmstead.

They were new come to this place and not used to such a life. What hardship had brought them out here? The woman’s clothes proclaimed her city-bred and used to better. A merchant’s wife or widow fallen on hard times, perhaps. She was not careful enough of her charges so close to the forest.

There were other men in the forest, rougher men, with less to lose. Well, no. No one had less to lose than Lerian did. But men who would take what they could lay their hands on.

[This message has been edited by Meredith (edited October 02, 2009).]

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Crank
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posted October 02, 2009 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crank   Click Here to Email Crank     Edit/Delete Message

LAST WEEK'S GOALS
Oh, yeah...that's right...I didn't post any goals! No biggie, because they've essentially been the same for the last month and a half. Writing work on the mainstream novel. Marketing the young adult novel. Researching for the science fiction novel. Cleaning my damned office. Progress has been made on all fronts; even though I'm not entirely impressed with the quantity of my progress, I'm happy to say that the quality of what I've been producing is extremely pleasing to the mind and the soul.

THIS WEEK'S GOALS

mainstream novel: the word count per se has not budged in a week and a half, but the order of events and the character profiles are stronger than ever. I'm about ready to get back to the actual writing, so I expect a good word count.

Metzgerhund Empire: I've decided that my agent query letter sucks, so I'm looking to improve it. Since I've got no actual novel chapters to share, would anybody like to swap something they're working on in exchange for critting my query letter?

science fiction novel: the frightening part here is that my interpretations of how certain things exist aren't that far off from how the experts in the field theorize them to be.

'Infrastructure' (aka the Mass Cleaning and Reorganization Project): It's going well...although Ares, the family tabby, now hates me because I eliminated his favorite hiding places.


WHAT I LEARNED THIS WEEK
The less sleep I get, the more incomprehensible my writing becomes. Even to me.

S!
S!


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Meredith
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posted October 02, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meredith   Click Here to Email Meredith     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Metzgerhund Empire: I've decided that my agent query letter sucks, so I'm looking to improve it. Since I've got no actual novel chapters to share, would anybody like to swap something they're working on in exchange for critting my query letter?

Well, I'm trying to rework my query letter for The Shaman's Curse. Maybe we could trade.

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Kitti
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posted October 03, 2009 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kitti   Click Here to Email Kitti     Edit/Delete Message
Succeeded in both my goals for last week (yea for modest goals).

Goals for this week:
1) Write another 500 words on Mudlarks.
2) Edit another chapter of TSB.

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MAP
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posted October 06, 2009 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAP     Edit/Delete Message
I did not reach my goal. I barely touched chapter 6, instead I went back and reworked a scene that I knew needed fixing. It could have waited for revisions, but it just bugged and bugged me until I fixed it. I really wish I could let these things go, so I can finish the draft.

BTW Meredith, I like the first thirteen you posted for "Dreamer's Rose." It hooked me.

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Meredith
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posted October 06, 2009 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meredith   Click Here to Email Meredith     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
BTW Meredith, I like the first thirteen you posted for "Dreamer's Rose." It hooked me.

Thanks. I thinks I've finally got the correct starting point. We'll see.

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Owasm
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posted October 07, 2009 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Owasm   Click Here to Email Owasm     Edit/Delete Message
Started a new job in the last week, so I had less time.

I have a novel in its second review. This one is a tough critiquer, so I'm just taking the hits and letting the story sit. The reader is going to school, so the process is going to take a while.

My time was shortened on my POV conversion (Motes & Meddles) so I only rewrote about 15 or 20 pages.

I decided that one of my stories that I developed through Liberty Hall's Bloody August will be used for NaNoWriMo. I wasn't going to do it, but I didn't want the concept to sit for much more time before writing it out. I have about ten hours of outlining to do before I can start. Worldbuilding was completed during the exercise.

Goal for this week (midway through already) is to get another 30 pages rewritten in Motes & Meddles.

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Meredith
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posted October 07, 2009 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meredith   Click Here to Email Meredith     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Started a new job in the last week, so I had less time.

Hey, congratulations on that! In this economy, that's still a big deal.

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SaltireFlower
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posted October 08, 2009 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaltireFlower     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, I'm new here. I'm working on actually completing my first novel. I'm still at the worldbuilding stage. I'm going through Patricia C. Wrede's list of worldbuilding questions so I can be as thorough as possible. I did no worldbuilding on a fantasy novel I tried writing about 8 years ago. Terrible idea.

I'm also starting to wonder how much time other people spend on worldbuilding. I've been doing it for about 2 years.

Next weeks goals
Finish working on the holy sites for each religion.
Find out if the book store has either of the two 'How to Write Fantasy' books I want.

What I learned this week
Doing research and thinking of the novel's plot for a few years is not actually a bad thing. I've come up with some good plot points because I'm taking my time instead of rushing for the sake of rushing.

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