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Nick T Member |
Hi everyone, Here goes my second market challenge as chief slave-driver (I'm not sure how long I'm meant to keep going). Apologies for posting this so close to the 11th. Please post your first thirteen in this thread by May 11th, using the following format: First thirteen: Please do not post anything else in this thread. For discussions and questions, and to see how this group works, please use the ‘Open Discussions’ thread. I’ll post instructions in this thread as and when necessary. By the 11th day of the month everyone is invited to post first 13s. The earlier the better, so that people have more time to choose which stories tickle their fancy for full crits. This week is not time for writing since the stories should be ready for market, but just recognizing that we can't all get to things immediately. During the week after entries close, we By the last day of the month we The "end of the day" is the end of the day in your local time. There's no need to be more precise than that. Cheers, Nick IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
To kick things off: The Golden Age
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Merlion-Emrys Member |
Harmony Dark Fantasy 3,300 words
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Owasm Member |
Curl of the Night Fern Fantasy 6500 words. Mellon bent over to fill his skin with the mountain stream’s cold, sparkling water. He thought his lost sheep would likely stop here to take a drink, just like him. [This message has been edited by Owasm (edited May 07, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
Hi guys, Send both yours through. I'm ridiculously busy at the moment, but it's still a shame that we only got three participants this time around. Nick IP: Logged |
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Owasm Member |
ditto. Send them along, both of you. It's funny, Nick. Both of our stories are ones we've already exchanged. We get the benefit of seeing the revisions. - Owasm. IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
Hi Owasm, The problem is I haven't received the level of crit I'd really like for this story. The crits focused on geographic details which is fine, but I haven't had anything that really fixes the story (and I know it's far from perfect). Anyway, it qualifies for the RFMC, but I was hoping to get a more detailed crit...I guess it just doesn't enthuse people...Sigh. I'm not sure if it's that different from the version you've seen. Nick IP: Logged |
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Merlion-Emrys Member |
I guess you guys might as well send me yours too, though I may be a little slower than normal. IP: Logged |
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thayerds Member |
Can I join in this challenge? I would be happy to read all of the stories although I don't have anything ready this month. In June I should be able to provide something. But if you are short on readers I am more than willing to throw my hat in the ring. I have not been active on this BB for about a year, but now I am back from overseas and ready to get back into fiction; finally. How about it? IP: Logged |
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Merlion-Emrys Member |
I think we collectively appreciate the offer. Don't we boys? IP: Logged |
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Owasm Member |
We sure do. I'm sending you mine in mere minutes. Thanks for the offer, it's appreciated. IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
Hi Thayerds, Thanks for the offer, it's greatly appreciated. This challenge runs every month, so if you have something ready in June, you're free to enter. Regards, Nick IP: Logged |
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Merlion-Emrys Member |
Curl of the Night Fern Story Overall-5 Pretty decent characters and some good ideas but it really needs to be compressed and polished.
You've got several different things going on here, and to me they all meander a little too much. The concepts of the plot are fine they just need to be tightened and focused.
Theres some interesting hints here and there, but its not developed much, and what development there is is in big info-dumpy chunks.
Pretty much as above. There were good spots, but much of the writing was choppy, theres a lot of added on asides to explain things that could have been handled with only a couple of words and just generally a somewhat stiff feel to it. I'd suggest trying to go for a more natural, more realistic flow.
What there is is pretty decent, though I don't understand how Mellon gets trapped during his duel with the wizard.
My main issues here are the way the characters talk, and Bortax being a "demon." I realize that last is a bit subjective, however, he is depicted in a manner consisted with the evil monster demon image, and no setting-based context or reason is given for why he's more or less the oposite.
Its a bit of a new twist on some things. I'm not really all that concerned with this area though, as almost everything has been done before.
I like a lot of the ideas in this story, but it really needs to be streamlined as far as length and focus, and the writing needs polishing. IP: Logged |
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Merlion-Emrys Member |
The Golden Age
Character Development-8
Good for the most part. Just a couple little parts that could perhaps be a little better, such as when he first fires the gun. Also his tatto protecting him comes out rather expected and unsurprising, but really thats not a bad thing.
With just a little polish this should be good to go. I think you did a really excellent job og mapping real world races and circumstances to fantasy equivalents. IP: Logged |
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Owasm Member |
Harmony Story Overall Milieu Dialogue Writing Style Action Disbelief Unique Understandable Ending IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
Harmony Story Overall 5 – I didn't have a strong enough idea of the protagonist’s desires and drives and what stops him from achieving those desires. As a result, the protag is too passive to really engage me in the story. Milieu 6 – Good sense of industrial desolation, but very little sense of the world beyond the physical description. Dialogue 6 I’d like more conflict within the dialogue or more surprise. It seemed a little flat to me. Writing Style 6 – Some tidying needs to be done (a few run-ons at the beginning), but generally pretty good. Action
Disbelief 7 – I have no problems here. Unique 6 – The story didn’t startle me with its background or the nature of the worm, but that may be familiarity with the themes you’re working with at the moment. Understandable
Ending 5 – Probably the biggest issue I had with the story was that ending skirts perilously close to deux ex machina. I need a clearer ending where Peter provides a clear resolution and where it’s clear whether his goals/aims/desires have been met. IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
Curl of the night fern Story Overall 5 – The main problem I found with this story was that Mellon was a passive protagonist for large sections and there wasn’t enough conflict introduced throughout the story. Once the initial disturbance to the protag’s life is achieved, the stakes and the conflict aren’t redefined and conflict is missing for a large part of the story. The pace really slows, which is a pity as you’ve got a solid idea behind this story. The other big problem was the dialogue, which doesn’t have enough movement in it. Milieu 6 – While it was obviously high fantasy, there wasn’t much to distinguish it from *other* types of high fantasy. What were the costs of magic? What was unique about the magic system? What was there was done well, but the milieu didn’t particularly stand out to me. Nevertheless, no major problems here. Dialogue 4 – I’d probably like to see a bit more conflict and sideways answers used in the dialogue. The dialogue lacked a bit of spark and mostly gave information, rather than being a mix of information, conflict and plot advancement. Writing Style 5 – The early omni reference stood out (which, I have to admit, is my fault due to a badly worded initial critique), but is a minor problem and easy to solve. Style-wise, nothing really stood out as being a *major* problem depending on perspective (it was still a little bit stiff, but nothing that finding your voice won’t solve), but more could have been left to the reader. There were quite a few observations that were fairly obvious to deduce and that could have trimmed the story further. Action 5 – Probably the cause of most of the problems in the story. As above, there needed to be more conflict/steps taken to liven up the action. I think the essential story is there, but you probably need to look at the amount of conflict in the story and what Mellon wants (in order to create conflict within that story). Disbelief 6 – No one really acted out of character, though I thought the demons didn’t really present as intelligent obstacles to anyone’s needs (also, the wizard at the end). Unique 7 – If you strip away the high fantasy elements, the story has the potential for a good coming-of-age story with some refinement; good, safe ground to tread on, while still being relatively fresh. I’m not a fan of high fantasy generally, but you’re not relying on the tropes as the be-all and end-all of the story. Understandable 5 –Some of the magic at the end was a bit muddled. Ending 7 – sufficiently resolved. IP: Logged |
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Nick T Member |
Hi everyone, This challenge is more-or-less finished. If you haven't submitted a critique on stories you've asked for, please do so ASAP. Thanks everyone for participating and I hope everyone got something out of it. Regards, Nick IP: Logged |
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Owasm Member |
Thanks, Nick. Too bad there were only three of us. I'll be passing on June's, but will probably have something for July. IP: Logged |
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