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 Hatrack River Writers Workshop
 Grist for the Mill
 Logical Fallacies plus a Chess Game (Page 2)
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Zero Member |
posted October 21, 2008 01:00 PM
 
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted October 21, 2008 01:01 PM
Satate, I'm up for a third game if you want in on this action. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 21, 2008 07:28 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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satate Member |
posted October 22, 2008 12:27 AM
Ha! I can't even play chess when there's a real chess board in front of me. Thanks for the offer though. 
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Zero Member |
posted October 22, 2008 10:29 AM
satate, well - the offer still stands if you change your mind. It's more for fun anyway - we're not at a tournament. And if you mean you don't know how to play, we'd be glad to teach you the basics. They're worth knowing. extrinsic v philocinemas philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 22, 2008 09:03 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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extrinsic Member |
posted October 22, 2008 09:44 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 22, 2008 10:28 PM
extrinsic, this is about to get very interesting... extrinsic v philocinemas philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted October 23, 2008 11:04 AM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 Kxf7 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 23, 2008 06:47 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 Kxf7 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted October 23, 2008 07:02 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 Kxf7 philocinemas v Zero 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Bc4 Be7 5. Ng5 0-0 6. 0-0 d6 7. h3 h6 8. Nf3 Be6 9. d3 d5 Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 23, 2008 08:57 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 Kxf7 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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extrinsic Member |
posted October 23, 2008 09:31 PM
I'll be away through Sunday, starting tomorrow morning. extrinsic v philocinemas philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 23, 2008 09:44 PM
extrinsic, your bishop is still on c1. I hope your trip is enjoyable. [This message has been edited by philocinemas (edited October 24, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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extrinsic Member |
posted October 26, 2008 07:18 PM
I've really been more absentmined than usual lately. I notated castle the wrong direction. extrinsic v philocinemas philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 27, 2008 07:36 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 Kxf7 11. 0-0 Nb3 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted October 28, 2008 10:36 AM
Sorry for the delay, everyone. extrinsic v philocinemas philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted October 28, 2008 09:18 PM
extrinsic v philocinemas 1. e3 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Qf3 e6 4. Bb5+ Nc6 5. d4 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bb3 Qd6 8. Nh3 Na5 9. Ng5 h6 10. Nf7 Kxf7 11. 0-0 Nb3 philocinemas v Zero Zero v extrinsic IP: Logged |
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extrinsic Member |
posted November 02, 2008 07:29 PM
I'm resigning both matches and moving on. Time to write. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 02, 2008 08:59 PM
No problem - I'm sure it was a pain with just one board. Zero, are you still in or should we all just call it quits? IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 03, 2008 10:33 AM
Oh no, I'm still in. I'm just being very thoughtful about this next move, sorry. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 03, 2008 11:45 AM
That's good - take your time. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 05, 2008 12:32 PM
Zero, what's going on? I'm not trying to rush you, but I am most likely going to do what you're expecting me to do, so why don't you just give Big Blue a rest and move. Kasparov, I am not. IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 05, 2008 12:59 PM
Sorry, I was very busy until now, since the election is over. I apologize for the delay of game. philocinemas v Zero IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 05, 2008 08:05 PM
That's OK, I've been incredibly busy as well - I've been buried under a lot of paperwork recently. BTW, I figured that (Bd6) would be your move. So, here it goes - I'll drawl first. philocinemas v Zero IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 06, 2008 02:07 PM
ohh so you're a mind reader? I'll remember that so I have an excuse if I lose. philocinemas v Zero IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 06, 2008 07:43 PM
I'm not a mind reader - it's just, that was what I would have done to protect my pawn. It's too bad extrinsic dropped out - I was up one knight, but he had my pieces scattered everywhere and my king was not very protected - it would have been an interesting game. philocinemas v Zero IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 10, 2008 11:31 PM
Technically you attacked me first. (Bxc6) so my war is justified! haha, let's see if your mind reading abilities can help you now. philocinemas v Zero PS very balanced game so far, I am enjoying it IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 11, 2008 08:36 AM
philocinemas v Zero 1. e4 e5 IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 11, 2008 05:50 PM
By the way, I'm enjoying it too - I haven't played against a human being in about 5 years. IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 12, 2008 10:42 AM
Do you usually play with aliens? IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 12, 2008 11:21 AM
philocinemas vs Zero 1. e4 e5 IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 12, 2008 07:55 PM
When I do play, it is usually with my Chessmaster X. I once thought about joining the local chess club, but my time is very stretched as it is. I know there are sites where I can go and just start playing, but I don't like the time constraints - I have a hard time concentrating when under pressure. Now back to our game - my mindreading ability has totally failed me, because I have no idea what you are trying to do. philocinemas vs Zero IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 13, 2008 02:35 AM
The question is, do I know what I'm trying to do? philocinemas vs Zero [This message has been edited by Zero (edited November 13, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 13, 2008 07:26 AM
philocinemas vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Bc4 Be7 5. Ng5 0-0 6. 0-0 d6 7. h3 h6 8. Nf3 Be6 9. d3 d5 10. Bb5 d4 11. Ne2 Bd6 12. Bxc6 bxc6 13. Ng3 Rb8 14. Nh2 Bb4 15. Nh5 Nxh5 16. Qxh5 IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 13, 2008 02:30 PM
I'm gonna move my rook. Any guess as to where? I would do it now, but I'm only mostly sure about the position in my head, and I don't have a chessboard with me to verify it. And it is such an even game I'd hate to throw it away on account of accidentally making a stupid move. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to move my rook. [This message has been edited by Zero (edited November 13, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 13, 2008 09:32 PM
You actually should leave your rook there, and try and bait me to take the pawn with my queen. Then move your rook, force me to move my queen, and move your rook to your king side on row 5. But that's what I'd do. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 13, 2008 11:14 PM
Of course, I could just be trying to trick you, so you don't move your rook. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 13, 2008 11:35 PM
But of course, my suggesting that it might be a trick should make you think that it really wasn't a trick. But the fact that I know that you would think this, should make you think that it was a trick. But because you know that I know you would think this it might not be a trick. So what is it? Trick or Treat? IP: Logged |
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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury Administrator |
posted November 14, 2008 12:40 AM
I think someone has been watching THE PRINCESS BRIDE for too long. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 14, 2008 10:05 AM
"Inconceivable!" IP: Logged |
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MrsBrown Member |
posted November 14, 2008 10:49 AM
As an aside, I 'mated my 4.5 year-old son last evening, but he had such anguish about losing (bawling and tears) that I handed him my rooks and let him beat me. I finished the game with a king and one pawn. Its cool to watch the little guy figure out chess, but oh I wish he could win and lose gracefully! FYI: Don't let young children use chess clocks. It frustrates the child and the clock gets broken. [This message has been edited by MrsBrown (edited November 14, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 14, 2008 12:20 PM
It's great that he is understanding the principles of the game. My son is 6 and he understands it some, but has little patience with it. Maybe you could handicap yourself (play without a queen, or use only king side royalty), so the little guy has a fighting chance. IP: Logged |
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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury Administrator |
posted November 14, 2008 02:06 PM
My almost 5.5 -year-old grandson is all about winning. I suspect that it might be part of their learning to feel capable in their environment, and letting them win is not too high a price to pay so that they can learn to enjoy the challenge. However, I wouldn't recommend making it too easy for him, especially as he increases in skill. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 14, 2008 02:38 PM
I suppose this will sound like bragging, but it is meant to inspire you regarding your child's interests. I learned to play chess when I was six and was quickly able to best my mom and step-father. We weren't very affluent, and I would stay at a daycare service provided by the Parks and Recreation over the summers. I could beat most adults by the time I was seven, and I won several tournaments (I lost once to a boy from India). Sadly, the P&R lost their funding for the summer program, and my school system did not have a chess program (not back in the 70's). I went many years without playing very often. I started playing again occasionally while I was in college and finished runner-up the two years we had tournaments. I would encourage you to fuel your chilren's interest in it. At the same time, I don't believe interests should be shoved down children's throats. Winning mattered to me, but at first I thought people were letting me win, which irritated me. I think it matters to children that you put forth your best effort, but give them a chance at the same time. IP: Logged |
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Zero Member |
posted November 14, 2008 05:55 PM
Ahh, don't intimidate me, lol. I didn't know I was facing a champ. philocinemas vs Zero IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 14, 2008 08:53 PM
philocinemas vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Bc4 Be7 5. Ng5 0-0 6. 0-0 d6 7. h3 h6 8. Nf3 Be6 9. d3 d5 10. Bb5 d4 11. Ne2 Bd6 12. Bxc6 bxc6 13. Ng3 Rb8 14. Nh2 Bb4 15. Nh5 Nxh5 16. Qxh5 Rb5 17. a3 IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 14, 2008 09:12 PM
That was 20 years ago. I don't play very often nowadays - and hardly ever against people. IP: Logged |
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MrsBrown Member |
posted November 15, 2008 10:01 PM
No worries; you earned bragging rights. I brag on my boy! My husband plays with our son, Smith, often. Smith practically begs us to play. My husband takes away his queen and both rooks, and gives hints along the way. He's a good teacher. For some reason Smith is okay with losing to his dad, but not to me. Next time I'll be sure to do my handicap at the start. IP: Logged |
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philocinemas Member |
posted November 15, 2008 10:18 PM
Limiting your thinking time is another way to handicap yourself. IP: Logged |
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