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My copy of Speaker for the Dead says that it is "The Author's Definative Edition." So, what does that mean?
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Typically it means Authoritative and complete. But still interested in seeing his response. Who knows, maybe he will retort with something like my publisher just wanted to sell more books...Posts: 14 | Registered: Nov 2005
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When they did an edition of Ender's Game that incorporated a few revisions I needed to make (mostly because of the Challenger crash), they touted it by calling it "the author's definitive edition" and then, just to make things match up, said the same about Speaker, in which I made few or no changes, as far as I can remember. In short, it means almost nothing.
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What revisions did you make after the Challenger crash? Was it where Ender was on the shuttle and he said there were a few moments when they thought they might have the first shuttle crash in years (or something like that)? (How sad is that that I remembered that scene off of the top of my head?)
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The first time I read Ender's Game was over 10 years ago, and have long since lost that copy. Recently I bought the copy marketed for young adults. The only difference I thought I saw was Ender's clash with the bully in the beginning. I seem to recall in the original Ender pushing the bully's nose up into his brain, and this not being the case in the newer copy. Again having read it 10+ years ago I may having been thinking of something else.
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quote:Originally posted by Orson Scott Card: When they did an edition of Ender's Game that incorporated a few revisions I needed to make (mostly because of the Challenger crash), they touted it by calling it "the author's definitive edition" and then, just to make things match up, said the same about Speaker, in which I made few or no changes, as far as I can remember. In short, it means almost nothing.
Well, other than the complete re-realization of Novinah's character, who is no longer nasty and mean. Instead she is as sweet as honey -- and a caring, devoted mother -- throughout the whole book, since so many people have complained about her on these boards.
So buy your copy today. Or even two copies.
*ducks and runs away*
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Who are you talking to? Because if you mean T_Smith then you have a very different sense of humour from anyone I've ever met. Because I don't know a single person who would find that even remotely humurous.
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For the record, Smith, I found your previous comment rude and unnecesarry. But hey, thanks for the mocking parodies of a respected piece of literature.
(If you can't tell, I'm kidding. Truce?)
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Yeah, SR, I don't think it's nice to condemn my (and others', apparently) sense of humor because you don't find the joke funny.
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quote:For the record, Smith, I found your previous comment rude and unnecesarry. But hey, thanks for the mocking parodies of a respected piece of literature.
This is kidding? Huh. They must be defining the word differently these days.
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Steve, what did you find offensive about T's post? I'm really not seeing it. I could see Card taking umbrage at #5, but that's about it.
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quote:Children will read: “Imagine that a man dangles a piece of candy in front of you. ... As you grab the candy, a huge metal hook stabs through your hand and you’re ripped off the ground. You fight to get away, but it doesn’t do any good... That would be an awful trick to play on someone, wouldn’t it?”
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Fish feel pain, but it's only a shadow of the sensation of feeling cold all the time, always being wet, and having to swim continuously in their own feces.
A change that was made to Speaker was that in early editions Ender and Novinha were going to have 6 more children. This was dropped from post Xenocide editions.
Oh, and I laughed muchly at T.S.'s comments and was rather embarassed for SOAPs response. But there is apparently some subtext I'm not aware of.
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"Oh, and I laughed muchly at T.S.'s comments and was rather embarassed for SOAPs response. But there is apparently some subtext I'm not aware of. "
As far as I know, no subtext. But he said he was kidding, so it's all good, and I believe it should be dropped and no further mention of it.
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The thought had crossed my mind, and if I had time, I would have no problem doing that, and filling out all the paperwork for lawyers and such. Alas, such is life.
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Whole Nine Yard Style where Bruce Willis Comes in to your house and breaks ure legs and sets the house on fire so u have to try and crawl out SHUDDER he threatens a waiter with that to get a good burger!
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quote:Are they not aware of the studies about fish and feeling pain?
I'm not as concerned about the hook as I am about the being dragged into the air part, even if dehooked and released.
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quote:Are they not aware of the studies about fish and feeling pain?
I'm not as concerned about the hook as I am about the being dragged into the air part, even if dehooked and released.
I'm sure that the being gutted and skinned parts aren't special favorites, either. After that, the whole getting breaded, fried and eaten bits* must be a walk in the park. Metaphorically speaking, at any rate.
*(does not apply to the species squarefish gordensfishermanicus which is pre-gutted, pre-filleted, and pre-breaded. Also, no-one eats them, either.)
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