It only took me ... 4 years? to come down to your forum since our adventures in Saltillo. Good to be onboard, I have only now begun reading what is posted here, and I apologize. I am a slow learner after all..
I came to talk about Bordertown, and the Mexican film experience in general. I suspect that some day Bordertown might be found by some film fanatic or a big fan of yours in some forgotten vault of projects that were never made.
I had some affection for the project, especially since Bordertown represented my first filming experience in Mexico. I hope the project is not canned completely. Maybe reshooting it or refilming it altogether would not be a bad idea. I would love to know what you think, and I put it all here on the forum so we get some views of what your fans might think. That's fair, isn't it?
For those of you who don't know bordertown or myself, (and you probably don't!), it was a small little pilot for a tv show that was going to be shot in Saltillo, Coahuila by Corporacion Multimedios and producer Rodolfo Arizpe, a friend of mine of some time now. I played the part of Associate Producer, although I was shooting for a co-producer's credit... I forget, maybe I did get the co-producer's credit, but since it was never released and the sales on it were going south (pun intended) Scott abandoned the project altogether and I went off to do other things too.
But years have passed, and I still consider it a good project with great potential. A supernatural soap-opera dealing with border issues!
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Hi Robin. Bordertown sounds like a cool idea -- I'd like to hear more about it. And frankly, I'm always interested when I know Scott has something new in the pipes (I know technically this isn't really new, but I haven't seen it yet).
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See, if I go directly to Scott, It might be a few years before we get this project. If I pester his fans tho... Far superior strategy. A virus-like meme (in this case the 'we wanna see BORDERTOWN' meme) is far more effective in the long run than direct emails.
Hell, if yer careful, you can even destabilize nations doing that!
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Robin just make sure osc dont have any embarrassing pictures or stories about you because if i were him and someone i knew came on here to get my fans in an uproar the first thing i would do would be to embarrass the heck outta them and then reply to what they were saying with a smile Posts: 50 | Registered: Feb 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk: See, if I go directly to Scott, It might be a few years before we get this project. If I pester his fans tho... Far superior strategy. A virus-like meme (in this case the 'we wanna see BORDERTOWN' meme) is far more effective in the long run than direct emails.
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And if it doesn't work on Card, Robin, maybe some Hollywood bigshot will be so impressed with your strategy he'll jet you out to Tinseltown and hire you on the spot! You came to Hatrack in obscurity, but you'll leave a STAR!!Posts: 6316 | Registered: Jun 2003
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You should retitle this thread "OSC - I Challenge Thee". I'll bet Card would respond really well to that.
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Jemmy, I'm a boy... Why is it that everybody assumes Robin is a girls' name?
The rest of you... I would never dare challenge Scott, he is about six or seven iches taller, much heavier, and much too kind and gentle to be challenged by the likes of me.. As for becoming a Star... well.. We are all stars eventually.
And Rose.. I am a Sinverguenza... Embarrasment proof.
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Oh dear. I'm terribly sorry ... I guess that's what I get for making assumptions.
I feel pretty silly now. Although I bet everyone else is grateful I took the fall for them because now they can post with confidence -- they don't have to carefully skirt around any potential gender references in their posts because now they all KNOW you're a boy. Yes, you're all welcome.
I really am sorry.
(Not that it's any consolation but I made this mistake with another guy a few months ago, and I've had people think of me as a girl too (I'm not). You would think I would've learned by now. )
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Yeah Robin Hood was no pansy he had the guts to say "I steal from the rich and give to the poor, the poor being mainly me" Posts: 110 | Registered: Jan 2006
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Anyone know if he ever tampered with roller blades? I need to hit someone with these crutches...
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Hey, Robin Hood was probably the best Enligh Archer that ever lived. I bet none of you kids could shoot a bow like him!
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why would i shoot a bow, what did the bow do to me?
i also have nothing against robin hood. it's hard to have anything against a fictional character. besides, i like foxes.
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why would i shoot a bow, what did the bow do to me?
i also have nothing against robin hood. it's hard to have anything against a fictional character. besides, i like foxes.
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Ahh yes, i've often seen successful novelists negotiate their business dealings with film producers in online forums for all the universe to observe and partake.
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Hey Robin? If what you really want is to work with OSC to restart this project, contact him. Just him. Not on his public forum. I don't know the man personally, but I imagine that like most, he prefers to conduct business in relative privacy. At the bottom of Hatrack River is a link that says "Contact Us". The mods and admins of the 'Rack are wonderful people and they will try to help you out.
Now, on the other hand if what you're looking for is a bunch of people to respond to your posts, then post something that warrants response. Not something that we know nothing about.
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My, that was snippy, Leah. Still, you're right. Uncle O is a good guy, so he'll probably respond to this (I think), but that doesn't mean it'll be as favorable as it could have been.
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In a completely unrelated post, the whole reason I checked this topic was because I thought it was related to the Terri Windling/De Lint/Delia Sherman series.
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Am I snippy? Yeah, I guess, because I don't really respect the strategy that Robin is employing. On the other hand, I think I'm offering good advice here. Look at the post dates. Nearly a month and OSC hasn't responded to the thread. I don't think that's a sign of success.
Robin: try another way.
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Perserverance and patience works wonders. I have Scott's private info, this is simply more fun.
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I'm pretty much convinced now that you're just bored and messing around on this forum for kicks.
In case you're not, I will offer some advice once more- again, I can't speak for OSC himself, but if you were trying to get ME to conduct business with you, after this:
quote:I have Scott's private info, this is simply more fun.
I would never, ever, ever, embark on any sort of project with you. Ever. I hope you don't need to think too hard to realize why.
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I guess it must suck to have discovered the one author whose fans are far more protective than they are demanding.
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I have a nice job. I like my job, and I have more or less abandoned film out of principle. I have considered politics, which seems to be a bit more honorable than film...
But what the... I like to mess around forums. You are right. And if Scott feels like he don't wanna do BORDERTOWN, well, I had given up on that long ago.. And if he does, well.. yippie doh day!
I have some other 'film' projects about the border, but my Arab, Chinese and other Latin American partners are just too damn trigger happy for me.
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quote:See, if I go directly to Scott, It might be a few years before we get this project. If I pester his fans tho... Far superior strategy.
You're quite the strategist. Thanks to your harping, I have no desire to see Bordertown. I do have an almost overwhelming urge to throw something at you, but the last time I tried that the other guy got off scot-free and I had to clean tomato juice off of my monitor.
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Spang: My dearest Director and collaborateur on various enterprizes, Ulli Lommel once told me about folks who did not enjoy his movies: "let them hate me! They are still talking about me!"
Tom: keyword: damning. You know Herod's Law? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Kids... Regarding Bordertown, my search as a filmmaker was never to educate, but only to make money, find prestige adn get honored. My search as a human being, outside of film, outside of 'the establishment' is something rather different.
I should finish with this. All the tomatoes that I get thrown will make some brilliant spaguetti sauce.
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quote:Originally posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk: Kids... Regarding Bordertown, my search as a filmmaker ...
Robin, I realize you may be speaking quite tongue-in-cheek, but you should know that many here are no longer kids, at least not in body. (My knees would prefer otherwise, but what the hey. ) OSC has a pretty broad range of readers.
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I wonder why you haven't posted here. Seriously, perhaps you feel Bordertown is not your best effort, and you are doing you best to forget about it, perhaps it is my approach, which you reproach. Perhaps it is something else.
Recently, I was asked by the taxi-drivers in my Pueblo to become their Precidente Municipal. It is entirely possible that once more, I shall be a semi-public figure.
It would be nice if in addition to becomeing Seņor Presidente, we could anounce the begining of a new Sci-Fi t.v. series that will deal specifically with the border problems between the USA and Mexico.
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I've been across the U.S./Mexico border several times, and I can tell you for a fact that there is not a giant town there. I'm not sure where you got your facts, but it's just a fence and some guard posts, no town.
Maybe you should call the project "Borderfence" or "Next-to-the-bordertown" but I can understand why OSC might not want to work on a project about an imaginary town that doesn't even exist. What author would want to be known as someone who makes things up?
Oprah would rip him a new one.
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You know what I'd do? I'd keep bumping this thread until OSC answers you or one of you dies of old age. Nothing says "Work with me!" like obsession.
Or, at the very least, I'd bump it until typing becomes outmoded and people post directly from their brains. Let's hope that method isn't retroactive, though, or this post will certainly need to be censored.
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Have you emailed him yet? Although, maybe I should just stop urging you. OSC might be angry with me for encouraging drivel like this to make its way into his inbox.
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Hey Robin -- good to see you posting here! Scott hasn't been on Hatrack in a little while. He's very deep into finishing up a semseter of teaching, directing a play, and finishing his novel "Empire." Maybe when he emerges from all three, he'll check in. In the meantime -- I'll tell him you've been here!
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