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See, here's my deal... I think Msquared may just be Mafia and that HDD was thrown out as a sacrificial lamb by the Mafioso. Msquared continues posting as a policeman, secure that he won't be lynched by the townies and secure that the Mafia won't gack him either.
Each day he can just pick a person from the list of suspects that he knows isn't Mafia and simply say that his "investigation" turned up nothing. At worst he can do the same for the Mafioso on the list. In the meantime, most smart police quietly ask questions and try to narrow down the field, playing the long game allowing both the town lynchings and the mafia hits to narrow the choices.
But I could be wrong as well. Hey, 'tis just a game and the Mafia know who they are and who they aren't. It's odd that Msquared didn't say who his investigation had cleared though...
Edit to add: There was also the blatant attempt to get the doctor to come out of hiding made by Msquared. Tsk tsk tsk... if you are police, Msquared, you're way to focused on a quick win that won't happen.
As for why not to ID someone as definitely being a townie, I can think of several reasons. They would be a tempting target for the mafia -- and it's not like they *glares at Erik* could just try to get them lynched.
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And make a target for the mafia of the one other person the townies can trust?
I have contacted the person cleared and if I am given the ok I will give the name. If not, I will honor that persons choice.
When I am killed by the mafia tonight you will see.
Unless the mafia tries to make me look bad by leaving me alive. But everyone I have accused,albiet there has only been one so far, has been guilty. I think it unlikely that the mafia would sacrifice one of thier own this early in the game.
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Woah! Dying of natural causes!? I guess I just kinda got carried away in the game yesterday, having too much fun watching, didn't realize I hadn't posted!
Sopwith, interesting Idea. Sounds like something m^2 would do, seeing as he already said he wanted the doctor NOT to save him last night.
Well, I will get back and vote soon.
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actually, i'd think it would be in the police's best interests to not reveal that name. would the mafia hit the innocent person, or would they add that name to the list of "not a cop" in narrowing the field of choices?
on the other hand, announcing that person would make them the next representative for the police to use, when something happens to m2, and we'd know who to listen to next.
of course, i guess they don't need that representative until they have identified another mafia member...and then we're back to having to decide if they're telling us the truth...
to be honest, if m2 had flat out said "x is a townie" i would probably have suggested we lynched "x" just to see if m2 could indeed be trusted. but he didn't. and i'm still not sure jeni didn't mean to imply his policlyhood in her lynch post.
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Wow, I can't believe I'm actually going to defend m2. Not for the reasons he has in not posting the person who is cleared, but in the action itself. While I don't think posting the name makes them a prime suspect for the mafia (wouldn't they be trying to find someone that is police or the doctor instead of just a lowly citizen?), posting the name would narrow down the field for the mafia on who could be a potential policeman. Unless of course the police were really clever and posted one of their own as checked. That person would then have credibility, immunity from lynching by the townies, and the mafia would be fooled into thinking they were only a citizen and not police.
Am I making any sense to anyone?
And if a person the police has already cleared comes up for a lynching, the police could always bring forth the name then. But only if it seems they are actually going to get lynched, not if they just get mentioned as a suspect and maybe get a couple votes.
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Do you guys know how much this is killing me...
Monty Python and Mafia in one big huge roll...
And I wasn't able to post a single MP reference.
Well, guess what!? I get to have my own little fun now.
Spam, spam, eggs and cheese. And muffins.
"I'm not quite dead."
Nobody expects the mafia! It is their chief element: surprise... and terror. Their two chief elements are surprise and terror.... and fanatical devotion to the GodFather. Their 3 chief elements are...
We're the mafia of the round table, Our deaths are formidable But many times, We're given crimes, That are quite unescapable. They die well here in Hatrack And we stuff you into a sack!
You're mafia. No I'm not. Yes you are. No, I'm not. YES, you ARE. No, I'm not. Are. Aren't. Are. Aren't.
Bring out yer dead!!
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(Thanks all of you who said this stuff makes you laugh. It's very hard to tell in writing it whether or not it's funny. Especially after I've read it 18 times. And it's hard not to cross the line and end up with humor ala Airplane! which I probably did with the Village People reference in HDD's story.)
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quote: Okay guys, enough of this no voting thing. Can't you see how utterly ridiculous it all is?. It's not supposed to be that easy for the townies to win...I don't want to hear anymore of this "no voting" strategy!
and in another thread she said:
quote: I still think all this not voting stuff is completly lame. Why are we trying to cheat the system?..I think the rule should be you die of natuaral causes if you don't vote, not if you don't post...we're never going to find a mafioso if we keep this no lynching thing up
and yet, SHE did not vote yesterday. AT ALL.
I will be back later. And I am going to vote for someone. (hint hint) I hope you all do a little research for yourselves. If you're going to vote, let's do it together and make it count for something. 29 votes for someone random won't kill anyone but a townie.
(and I know that my vote might kill a townie too, but at least it'll be an educated guess!!)
jeni...this is a great game and your montypythonisms are slaying us all!! I feel bad that kwsni isn't playing. That would be too ironic!
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Narnia, you forgot to mention where I got mad at m2 for then asking us to vote and said I was not voting just to spite him. He seems to have crawled under my skin this game. (Nothing personal m2)
Edit to add: I knew my not voting wouldn't have any effect on if HDD got lynched or not, so I knew I wasn't affecting the game negatively by not voting.
OTOH, I think Erik is too. And he voted for me! But then he took that vote back, and voted for himself. But that might just be to throw us off the scent.
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I think Erik is just a bit off his rocker and possibly a danger to himself. I kind of think he's a citizen that is a little insane.
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Narnia, I wish Becky was playing too. But I have some thoughts to do tribute to her when I do the Knights Who Say Ni! scene.
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Okay, now that we all know HDD's dirty, I'm more inclined to belive M2. Maybe not completely, but about 90%. I still don't like the idea of abstaining, because a) it's the only power we citizens have and b) it makes the game more interesting. I also realize that if there is just one vote, then that one vote will be lynched, so it really doesn't matter if 99.99% of us abstain on principle because the one person who doesn't will end up controlling the lynchings. If you think about it, it's a very, very bad thing, because the mafia will take it and run with it.
My suspect list includes eslaine and Sopwith, because Erik's was the first vote yesterday and Soppy's today, both after M2 urged abstinence.
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Oops, sorry, I didn't get to a computer until too late yestderday. I think I'll refrain from voting now, but I'll be back before the deadline to post my vote.
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Just to make this boat tip back and forth I will vote for ESlaine. Since I have not seen conclusive evidence for either individual. And a vote, hoping for good, is better than a lazy citizen. Though I will probably be back to change.
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Just to be contrary I vote hansenj that way nobody gets lynched because I doubt either are mafia.
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I remind you all of my evidence against Damander. (It's a few posts up and it's pretty condemning...) hansenj was Sopwith's random pick. Sopwith didn't even VOTE yesterday when a mafia was going down. Think about THAT. And sarcasticmuppet voted, but it was totally random. Come to think of it, Ryan Hart's vote yesterday was random too. Go check it out! We have some serious mafia here. They only agree when it's a townie going down. I think hansenj has been picked by the mafia and that she's innocent. We don't have anything conclusive about anyone, but I think the evidence leans more towards Damander than it does Erik at this point.
Damander
C'mon townies. Pull together. If you all agree on another person that MAKES SENSE and could be mafia, I'll change my vote.
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sorry, but unless Damander gets a few more votes I'm not gonna risk changing it. And my votes aren't random, I've given reason for them both times.
Note: Zevlag broke the tie, and Ryan Hart tipped it back. Hmmmm...
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Narnia, I went back and read Damander's posts, and I absolutely do not think she is mafia. Why would a mafioso be so obvious?? I think she was acting more out of a dislike for m2 than anything else. I think YOU are mafia and just trying to find an easy target to lynch to break the whole hansenj/Erik Slaine thing. I vote Narnia.
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