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qkslvrwolf
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Midwesterners rock. Its true. We're more or less the coolest, toughest, best people. Its simple. :-)

Sorry to those of you whose delusions were just shattered. Especially you New Yorkers. But reality had to strike sometime. ;-)

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MaureenJanay
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Ooh, do I count? If I was born in Missouri, even though I grew up in Georgia?
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Well it all depends.

When someone asks you where you're from, do you answer Georgia, or Missouri?

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Missouri is still south. Any place that still has cotillions is south. [Smile]
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Midwest . . . hmm. Those are the flat ones in the middle, right?
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Missouri is still south. Any place that still has cotillions is south.
Ok, I'm sorry, I'm stupid. What the hell is a cotillion?

Flat is a relative term. The Flint Hills are much larger than most maryland hills, theres just no trees, so you can see everything.

So poor benighted people that have never seen a truly wideopen sky think its flat, but its not.

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See, even after reading this I don't have any desire to visit the Southern US.
I hate hot weather.
Humidity and I don't see eye to eye.
I'm not religious.
I think the only sports worth playing are soccer and hockey.
I don't eat meat, dairy or eggs.

What does the South have to offer me?
(Or, for that matter, what do I have to offer the South? Other than my superior way of life that is [Wink]

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Well, I was going to say you could offer the south some sanity, but you don't like football and you don't eat meat, so there that idea goes.

[Wink]

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According to Fox's show The O.C., Newport Beach still has cotillions, but I'd hardly consider that part of the South. I'd also hardly consider a Fox "drama" to be a reliable source of info, though.
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The south is too humid for me. I took a road trip to New Hampshire and could barely breathe as I passed through Memphis.

Prescott, Arizona is perfect though. It's not too warm in the summer, and not too cold in the winter, and it's only rarely humid.

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Rappin' Ronnie Reagan
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I'm glad I finally started a thread that lasted to two pages.
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Ralphie
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rivka - Yeah. The stuff you fly over to get back and forth between the cool places.
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MaureenJanay
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When someone asks you where you're from, do you answer Georgia, or Missouri?
I say born in Missouri, grew up in Georgia.

I identify more with the people in MO, because neither of my parents is from Georgia, so we never really got too involved in that culture.

And by the way, the bottom half of MO is South, the top half is Midwest, IMO.

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Yeah, that's true. St. Louis is still pretty Midwestern. An hour south, though, and you may as well be in Arkansas. [Wink] j/k
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i suddenly feel homeless. i have no region i call my own.
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Zan
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Didn't you grow up in a lab celia?
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What do southerners consider cornbread? I've had cornbread that was almost like cake, sweet and fluffy and smooth, and on the other hand I've had cornbread that was like multigrain bread, heavy with lots of texture and big pieces of corn.

Darn it, I am -hungry-. I love grits, though I don't like them with cheese. Mmm, biscuts with sausage gravy, grits, eggs, fruit...

Of course, I like lox and bagels too. Should have eaten breakfast :\.

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Back from lunch- had shrimp and hushpuppies!
On the cornbread question- technically we have two types. There's lace cornbread, which is spooned batter in a frying pan (my fave kind) or pan cornbread, which is fluffier and baked in the oven. Its usually up to the cook which one you'll get.
Now the kind with bits of corn is either corn pudding or corn fritters. Also, pudding in the oven or fritters in the frying pan.
I'm sorry for those of you with bad experiences with the rude type Southerners. People here usually have a lot of heart, but many still harbor distrust of "Yankees" and there's still prejudice to contend with.
We're not all like that, I promise!

Jaxonn [Smile]

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And it's white cornmeal, not yellow, and no sugar in real cornbread. The rest is just a carpet-baggin' abomination!

And it's best with slow-cooked pinto beans. [Big Grin]

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Zan
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Hushpuppies must be eaten with honey. Why some restaurants that serve them don't understand this, I don't know.
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Does anyone else long for the corn pone baked in a corncob-shaped cast iron muffin pan?

[ooooh ---> http://chefgadget.com/product.asp?prodsku=C4108 ]

[ October 03, 2003, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]

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Jaxonn
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Another thing- the weather. At least we have SEASONS. It doesn't get that cold here, but when it does actually snow-woo hoo, its a major event.
The humidity is a pain, but living near the coast makes it a great excuse for going to the beach.

Jaxonn [Wink]

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quote:
Yeah, that's true. St. Louis is still pretty Midwestern. An hour south, though, and you may as well be in Arkansas. j/k [Wink]
[Cry]
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mackillian
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CT: No. Weirdo.
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Jaxonn
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Southern "delicacies" I won't eat-
pig's feet
pig's brains (my great granmother ate them mixed with eggs)
yok (I really don't even know what this is, nor do I want to)
rice pudding (we here in the South will make pudding out of anything)
deer stew (self explanatory, I hope)
squirrel (don't ask!)

Jaxonn
Suddenly, not hungry anymore...

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Rappin' Ronnie Reagan
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Rice pudding is good! And I've actually had deer jerky before...it wasn't that bad.

[ October 03, 2003, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Rappin' Ronnie Reagan ]

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Deer biscuits! Mmmmmmm! Now those are good! [Smile]
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With all due respect Ronnie, what planet are you from? [Big Grin]
Rice pudding is nasty- but to each his own.
What about tomato pudding?
Bread pudding?
Hey, like I said they'll make anything into a pudding around here.

Jaxonn [Smile]

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Zan
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Jaxonn, NC beaches don't really count as beaches.

And even though the lack of seasons sometimes sucks, the fact that I can sit by my pool in my shorts and sip a cold beer for at least 10 months out of the year is a definite bonus.

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Zan- I completely understand your point on the seasons thing. But why don't NC beaches count as beaches?
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Rice pudding IS good. So hush up.
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*dutifully scolded on the rice pudding mishap* [Hail]
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Because their not Florida beaches. [Roll Eyes]

[Razz]

NC is the place that Floridians go to vacation in the summer. My parents spend a month there every year.

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The best beach in the world:
Two Pics
It made the pictures small, sorry.
One meellion points to whoever can name where it is.

[ October 03, 2003, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: Rappin' Ronnie Reagan ]

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MaureenJanay
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Yeah, that's true. St. Louis is still pretty Midwestern. An hour south, though, and you may as well be in Arkansas. [Wink] j/k
What do you mean j/k? This is true.

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There's lace cornbread, which is spooned batter in a frying pan
Does this sound like latkas to anyone else?
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rivka - Yeah. The stuff you fly over to get back and forth between the cool places.
Exactly, Ralphie! [Smile]

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And it's white cornmeal, not yellow, and no sugar in real cornbread. The rest is just a carpet-baggin' abomination!

And it's best with slow-cooked pinto beans.

Hmm, how about half white cornmeal and half yellow? And just a little sugar? Hey, I don't use as much as the recipe on the cornmeal bag says! [Wink]

I agree with you on the pinto beans, although I usually add some other stuff too, and make a soy-meat based chili.

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Hushpuppies must be eaten with honey.
[Confused] But . . . aren't they slightly spicy? And served with savory foods?

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At least we have SEASONS.
Eh, seasons are way overrated. [Taunt] [Wink]

Chalk me up as another person who likes rice pudding. Yum!

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There's lace cornbread, which is spooned batter in a frying pan

Does this sound like latkas to anyone else?
*blinks* You make some really funny latkes! Mine are made from potatoes.
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I love NC beaches. This summer I went to Cape Lookout, which was really neat. You have to take a boat to the island with the lighthouse, and on the way you see wild horses grazing on the saltwater grasses that grow in small islands in the area. Like I said, it's really cool.

RRR- I don't specifically recognize the beach, so I'll make a random guess. Oak Island? (Long Beach, NC is my favorite beach.)

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I may be biased but I think our Gulf coast beaches are the most gorgeous in the world. Expand any of the pictures on this page, for instance, to see what my favorite beach town, Pensacola, has to offer. Sugar white fluffy sand, pure clear water, and fewer people density than most anywhere else, Pensacola still retains the old-Florida charm. Destin and Ft. Walton and Gulf Shores have become wall to wall condos with way too many people on the beaches, but Pensacola is still completely lovely. I miss it so much. I hope I can go next summer if I'm home from Iraq.
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*blinks* You make some really funny latkes! Mine are made from potatoes.
Aren't they cooked by the same process though? I knew they were potatoes. We made them in Elementary school. I can't remember why, but I think we had a Jewish lady come teach us to make some stuff like that. It was nifty.

Oops, misspelled latke in the post before. Got it confused with the guy on taxi. [ROFL]

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Nah, you didn't misspell it. The trouble with transliterating words is that there are too many ways to do it. I've seen latka, latke, latkah, latkeh, and others. Pick your favorite. [Wink]

Aren't all pancakes made that way, though?

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I don't know. We did it with like half an inch of oil. I don't use oil with pancakes. Just a non-stick pan.
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Or a griddle.
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MaureenJanay
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Or that.
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Okay, confession time for all Southerners or those who can relate. I have done something equivalent to a "choosing a different religion from my momma" kinda no-no. I have...(gasp)
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given up cast iron.
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I HATE it. I thought I loved it. I stood behind it and told everyone how great it is.
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My mom doesn't know I threw out all my cast iron.

I hate it. It weighs six times more than a normal pan with no known benefit. Plus the handle gets hot. It's almost impossible for a pregnant woman to use it, which I usually am. What's the point? When it came time to move, I realized that stupid cast iron would probably take us over our weight limit in the moving van, that's how heavy it was. So I chucked it. I haven't missed it since.

*breathes sigh of relief*

My name is Maureen, and I'm a non-stick-aholic.

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Non-stick spray is your friend. [Big Grin] Or maybe a little olive oil in a pan, but "half an inch"? Yikes! *dies*

Cast iron actually does have a health benefit -- trace amounts of iron end up in the food. And since most people are iron-deficient . . . OTOH, I'm with you on what a pain in the neck it is. I have a friend who loves it, but I can't stand it.

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YOU THREW OUT YOUR CAST-IRON!?

*wants cast iron*

[Cry]

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*pat pat*
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Yes- someone clear up the hushpuppies thing. They tasted oniony to me, I can't imagine them with honey. I guess it might be like chicken fingers in honey. Hm.

Edited to ask, Why is Ana Kata in Iraq? Is she in the military?

[ October 05, 2003, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: rayne ]

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the list forgot

Only a true Southerner knows that Coke doesn't mean a specific drink-it's just a general term for any type of soda

and no one has mentioned Boudin sausage, which is one of my favorite.

As for the politeness, raised by two yankees in the South, it was VERY hard for me, but I can see reasons behind it now, it just gives people a basis for speaking, and the talking about you behind your back stuff seems overrated (but I'm generally pretty oblivious, so I may have just missed it)

But my third family is very country southern, Dad just started visiting them a lot in college and got adopted. And it's a good family, they're very hosiptable, good cooks, and they treat my sisters and I as if we are actual members of the family, not the children of a son they adopted in later on in life. And also-that politness thing can go away pretty quickly, once southerners get into politics.....

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I was in Mississippi for an internship this spring, and just before I left the big city of Corinth west of where I was held its annual Slugburger Festival, where everyone meets together to socialize and eat a burger made of a mixture of hamburger, grease and bread crumbs. [Smile] I didn't expect the experience to be so anecdotal, but the south is like a charicature of itself, I couldn't believe it. It's awesome
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