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aka
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It's in the constitution. Afghanistan's, that is. Too bad it's not in ours in the U.S.
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Robespierre
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In what sense do you think the law treats men and women differently in the US?
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Amka
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Come on, ak. Are you really proposing that our courts discriminate against women more than Afghan courts do? The Soviet constitution called for fair elections and fair trials too.
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TomDavidson
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Hm. Last I heard, the proposed Afghani constitution would institute Sharia law. Where did this "men and women the same" bit come from, and when did it happen?
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quote:
President Hamid Karzai signed Afghanistan's new constitution into law Monday, putting into force a charter meant to reunite his war-shattered nation and help defeat a virulent Taliban insurgency.

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The constitution outlines a tolerant, democratic Islamic state under a strong presidency — as sought by Karzai — a two-chamber parliament and an independent judiciary.

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Ratified Jan. 4 after a sometimes bruising debate at a 500-member loya jirga, or grand council of representatives from across the country, the text also declares men and women equal before the law — a victory for human rights advocates.

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[ January 26, 2004, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: dkw ]

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Storm Saxon
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That's friggin' awesome.
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Amka
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Yeah, its friggin awesome, but as I stated before, being in the constition doesn't necessarily mean it will actually happen. I hope it does.

The soviet constitution also explicity stated that everyone would have equal pay for their work and there would be no special favoritism.

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Storm Saxon
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At least it's in writing, though. So, it's something they can work towards.
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Yes, it's in writing. Now all they need to do is teach the women how to read.
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Shigosei
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Do you think First Book has a chapter in Afghanistan? Maybe in addition to dropping food, the U.S. should start dropping books.
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Eaquae Legit
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It least it's in the charter. As someone said, it's something to work towards, even if it is slow progress. I mean, how long did it take for the acceptance of female voters in North America to take hold? But it's a step in the right direction, and an important one. Kudos to the legislators that drafted it.
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In what sense do you think the law treats men and women differently in the US?
Well, for one thing a lot of government-sponsered institutions and organizations give affirmative action benefits to women over men. That's probably the main legal inequality.

I suppose you could also consider child rearing issues, such as who gets possession of a child in divorces, or stuff like that.

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lcarus
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Yeah. And I can't have an abortion, either.

[Razz]

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jebus202
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Duh, you're a guy.

::rolls eyes::

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Robespierre
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Well, for one thing a lot of government-sponsered institutions and organizations give affirmative action benefits to women over men. That's probably the main legal inequality.

I agree with you. However, the tone of aka's initial post seemed to imply that the US was set up to be legally unfair to women. I think the XIX Amendment pretty much covered the problem of legal inequalities which worked against women.
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Maccabeus
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*scratches head* Once you've said that all people are equal, is it really necessary to specify men and women?
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Richard Berg
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Duh, you're a guy.

::rolls eyes::

It's not such a stretch, really. A man has no way to terminate his obligations (financial & otherwise) after conception, while a woman does.
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Miro
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There are plenty of jobs in the military that are prohibited to women.
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There's also the fact that women can't be drafted...
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<--has absolutely no problem with not being drafted, with no concern whatsoever for what it symbolizes. [Razz]
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Even if women COULD be drafted, they wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole. [Wink]
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Olivet
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um, JEBUS?

THE jebus?

You're, um, back?

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