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Paint Your Wagon is soooo good. You're right that Eastwood should not sing, except in this movie. All the awfulness in that movie really come together into something magical.
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I hate The Lion King. I only saw it once, in the theatre, but I nearly hurled. This is not the main reason that I dislike it (I've got plenty of those), but I find it amusing that Disney tried to reach out to the African-American audience with this made-up pseudo-African fable, and cast in the lead roles Matthew Broderick and Johnathan Taylor-Thomas. And let the music be done by Elton John. Even in a movie set in Africa, James Earl Jones still somehow ends up as the token black guy. What's next? The Martin Luther King story, starring Carrot Top?
Oh, and I could never stand Phantom of the Opera either.
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Hehehe No neck. By the by, I had that Brad problem when I saw that Pepsi Twist commercial where the guy didn't know who Barry Bostwick was. Alas, despite having seen the movie no few times, and despite performing the Time Warp in my HS talent show, I have yet to go to a showing. (sadness)
I disliked West Side Story, but only because of how much I hate Romeo and Juliet. The music was pretty good.
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BUT I really loved the episode of the Simpsons where they watch "Paint Your Wagon." Listening to "Clint Eastwood" sing in that one is hilariously painful. It's one Simpsons moment that never fails to make me roll.
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Actually, St. Paul, MN. I know where one is, a bunch of my friends from HS went there a couple of times. I'm thinking about trying to mobilize my college friends into a trip, but they're so so lazy. I can't remember the name of the theater, but I know there's one in the cities somewhere, I think its the first and third Saturday of the month or something.
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There's more than one, I think. Would you like me to get you an address?
On second thought -- would you like me to set you up with a date who knows exactly where they are and has costumes and stuff? ::happy matchmaker vibes go into action::
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I can't tell you all how relieved I am that no LDS hatrackers have spoken up to defend Saturday's Warrior. You people rock.
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I'm trying to imagine a Methodist minister setting up a blind date for the Rocky Horror Picture Show and having some trouble with that mental image. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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"Gonna paint the wagon, Gonna paint it fine, Gonna use oil-based paint because the wood is pine."
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I saw Rocky Horror when I was a kid. Youthful rebellion and hanging out in the drama clique. What's weird is my sister massively decried my going, but when she went with her friends she dressed up in a French maid outfit. MPH, did you see it in Utah? maybe the RHPS in Utah is worse. It seems everything in Utah that is bad is much worse than everywhere else.
I just want you all to know I hated the French from way back in the late 80's. And Les Miz has a lot to do with it.
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I didn't like Les Miserables... OK, mostly I hated it... it's a case of TOO much plot; the original Les Miz was ~1,200 pages -- almost as long as War and Peace -- and to squeeze it into a 90-minute musical... butchery. Watching it was like watching a farce. And to turn Thernadier into a lovable scamp, after he'd abused Cosette... ugh. It'd be like turning Bonso into a lovable scamp in the Ender's Game musical...
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My mom used to take my little brother and I to all sorts of musicals at the local community theater. I think it was supposed to represent high culture, with all the townspeople all dressed up and the dimming of the lights and the pinkies in the air and such.
So I was surprised, as I grew up, to discover that all the musicals I'd seen were about as intellectually stimulating as The Price is Right. I mean, really! The same goes for the operas I saw and studied in high school... man, talk about mind-numbing plots. Are there any musicals or operas that are more than just spectacle with a few thinly-woven plot strings? That are meant to be entertaining to someone over the age of 10?
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Musicals I've seen on stage, all before the age of 12: Annie Bye Bye Birdie Sound of Music Der Fledermaus Pirates of Penzance (my favorite, because they involved the audience) Guys and Dolls HMS Pinafore South Pacific Wizard of OZ Phantom of the Opera another one about a boat that I can't remember the name of.
Musicals I've seen on film, mostly before the age of 12: Unsinkable Molly Brown Hello, Dolly Music Man My Fair Lady Annie Sound of Music Pirates of Penzance Evita Gypsy Grease Guys and Dolls Oklahoma South Pacific Singin in the Rain Showboat The King and I West Side Story Wizard of OZ and recently, Chicago.
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You know, there is one good musical I've seen... Bjork's Dancer in the Dark. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, for the same reasons I wouldn't recommend "American History X" to anyone, but it was a much more powerful story than your usual song-and-dance spectacle. Still not the best, and I had huge problems with some of the ways it was told, but it was definitely compelling and thought-provoking. And the the music and dance are pretty incredible at times. "I've seen it all" is amazing.
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I went to see Jersey Girl last night (the one with Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler) and there's this whole thing with Cats and Sweeney Todd...and it's really really funny. It blatantly paints Cats as the BAD musical and Sweeney Todd as the...well, the weird one. (I think it's the fantastic musical!) It was really cute. (The rest of the movie was pretty mediocre and somewhat raunchy in parts, so I don't recommend it.)
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Funnily enough, this must be one of the few (if the only) musical/s set to the writings of a very famous poet. Posts: 8473 | Registered: Apr 2003
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Why thank you. Subtlty has never been my strong suit. I've had massive computer problems of late.
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I like some of the songs from "Into the Woods" ("Into the Woods," "Agony"), and I like the plot and some of the dialogue... but it just doesn't jell somehow, too stiff or something...
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Ic, I didn't get a very clear sense of exactly why you hate Les Miserables so much. Do you dislike the story? The lyrics? The music? The staging? All of the above?
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The music (boring and depressing) and the story (ditto). It may have been a fantastic novel, but as a musical it's just absurd . . . I honestly found myself laughing hysterically at how sad everything was. For hours afterward, actually, I was making up phony, bathos-filled songs that could have gone well in that show.
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State Fair's another one I had forgotten about. I've still never managed to finish watching the whole thing.
The opening song is so bad it's good.
Our State Fair is a great State Fair. Don't miss it, don't even be late And it's dollars to donuts that our State Fair Is the best State Fair in our State.
It says something about my mother and her irrational love of all musicals that, when we moved to Texas, the thing she wanted to do most was go to the state fair and see the huge talking cowboy statue.
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Interesting. I actually rather enjoy the music to Les Miserables. I could understand not liking the lyrics or finding the story overly melodramatic, but I've always thought it was musically quite good. ::shrug::
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Forbidden Broadway is a must for folks who dislike these musicals...or for folks who like them but can laugh at them! Les Mis (I hate it...and I really dig musicals) gets it really good...like songs about dreaming about days when people weren't blowing money on t-shirts with "starving paupers on" them and a great overview of the entire musical in about 1 minute, capturing the ludicrous amount of plot and character details. Very funny.
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Danny Kaye used to do a comedy bit poking fun at the cookie-cutter musicals of his day. He even included in his first big movice, Up In Arms.
The stereotypical musical in his routine is a Western.
"Up from the gulch comes a hunk of man. He is our hero, Cowboy Dan, A yodeling-odeling buckaroo. . . His horse, of course, is a baritone, too."
It was a riot. Actually, the whole movie was hilarious, and it probably counts as a musical itself. After all, the supporting actress is Dinah Shore.
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I dislike "April In Paris," an old Doris Day movie musical with Ray Bolger. Doris is great, but those scarecrow legs in the serious dance numbers...what a joke!
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