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So you maintain that anyone claiming the Soviet Union wanted Communism is a racist? Or that any historian claiming the Roman people preferred an Empire to a Republic is racist? Or that any claim that the historic Chinese ever liked having a monarchy is racist? And so on....
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You know, this is interesting, because most of the pundits and commentators that are pushing the "ungrateful muslims don't want democracy" meme are actually the conservative ones, to my knowledge.
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quote: that if you’re Muslim, or perhaps brown-skinned, you can’t be self-governing or free. I’d strongly disagree with that.
Bush did not say that if any people WANTED another governemtn is racist. Bush said that if people think it is NOT POSSIBLE to have democracy acording to religion or skin color is racist. That is an importnat distinction to remember. If people choose to not have democracy, by Bush's standard, theyh are not racist. To assume someone is uncapableof democracy IS racist.
The true test of the Bush doctrine will be HOW the Irai people choose. If they choose democracy he/America will become justified. If they choose another dictator, it was a serious serious mistake.
I tend to think people get the government they deserve. Bush placed his chipss that they will choose democracy. If they choose otherwise does not by any of Bush's statements make the Iraqi people racist.
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Dictators are seldom chosen. In order for the people to choose, they'd have to vote. In order to vote, they have to be part of a democracy...
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Au Contraire Unmaker. Dictators are often elected. Hitler, Julius Ceasar, Stalin, Napoleon, even President For Life Idi Amin.
The secret is to corrupt the voting process so that you do get elected dictator, then make sure there is a convient emergency that prompts the old ways of elections be replaced with your safe, stable rule.
(Look for "The Emporer" to be elected to his post in the last Star Wars movie).
One of my fears of the whole "Homeland Security" system is that it could be abused to give us a temporary dictator until the war for terrorism is over. President Bush hasn't gone that route, and I am thankful--so far.
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I think what David is trying to say is that Tresopax seems to confuse the will of the Dictator with the will of the people.
Just becuase the Dictator wants it, doesn't mean the people of the Soviet Union, Red China, Rome or anyone else prefered it. Certainly not in this day and age when Democracy is a tried and true method of government and not just something the ancient greeks did for a while.
quote:The true test of the Bush doctrine will be HOW the Irai people choose.
I disagree. I believe the true test of the Bush Doctrine will be how the TERRORISTS choose to live or die.
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We had to slaughter to native indian and enslave the black man to build American "democracy" here in America, if we have to slaughter the native iraqi's and use slave labor to build "democracy" the BUSH/CHENEY/HALLIBURTOIN dynasty will pay that price.
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I didn't watch it, so I don't know ... Is it true his tie has these little dots on them that moved when he did?
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I didn't watch it either, but I wish I had done. The incompetent mumbling tells a morbidly humorous tale that would delight any fan of the political forum, as I surmise.
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