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Am I the only one to take this as a fun loving joke?
Don't worry, I can't think of any girls, or guys for that matter, at Hatrack who need worry about suddenly feeling more bueatiful than another -- or the other way around. Everyone I have seen looks exactly like the readers and thinkers this place in known for and not like bikini models.
This thread does show, however, the extreme insecurity that resides here.
And, for your information, I would be one of the least people to be picked for one of these things on looks. Yet, I don't care. Posts: 2207 | Registered: Oct 2003
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I find it odd that the Official Hatrack Calendar would be of people when the people here are so fleeting. But I guess it's easier to take a snap shot of a person than an idea.
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Oh well, I don't like clever anyway. It comes off as deceptive. Rather have my thinking succinct and to the point.
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I think it's the difference between treating people as they are and as you think they should be. If you hold people responsible for what they "should" be, then you can say things that are insulting, and it's their fault for getting hurt.
If you actually want to deal with humans and be a part of reality, you have to accept and deal with people as they are.
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You know I suddenly realized Richard Berg's comment was probably really cryptic to those who weren't at KamaCon, it didn't even make sense to me for a while.
The "three star letter" comment didn't have anything to do with appearance whatsoever! You see I gave the crazy grandma letter binder I have to Tom Davidson while at KamaCon. I had had them organized in chronological order for a while and had ranked the letters with stars for their general outrageousness.
If you see a "three star" letter, you know you've got a really entertaining one where Grandma is on a tear! But in the reading frenzy the letters were strewn all over the floor for a while. Mayday did a Herculean job of sorting them out and they left organized far better than they arrived. There have been rumors of a Grandma Blog upcoming, with the names changed to protect the innocent.
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Hmm. I just got back and was reading this thread. Throughout the entire thing, I just kept thinking how funny this is. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? I've pointed out people I thought were attractive in magazines to Mr. Opera and he has often thought they were quite UNattractive, and vice versa.
Occasional, as far as the insecurities here, I think this thread has brought up far more outrage. I've been judged on my looks (like everyone else) my entire life, and the last place I ever expected to be judged was Hatrack.
I should explain more. To tell the truth, I felt that all the Hatrack people I met at the Con were attractive. I tend to find people I like attractive, and I liked all of them. Not getting nominated for a calendar didn't bother me - I feel confident of my hotness. I was just surprised to see this kind of thing even being discussed. We're Hatrack, and we value people, not their appearances. I do like the idea of a calendar with everyone as a big happy group just because we rawk.
space opera
edit: And I meant all of us, not just the Con-goers.
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I guess I have come to grips with who I am and what I look like. Not saying I wish I wan't some hunk of a guy, but that will never be so I think I have come to accept that. Frankly, marriage has probably helped to sooth my concerns and contributed to my personal security.
I guess a "beauty contest" has become the least of my problems. Because of that, it surprised me at the rage felt by some and even was a bit amusing. Comes off as prepubesent rantings equal to the accusations of the same for even bringing the topic up.
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If you feel good about it then, maybe the best thing to do would be to help other peole get there and not insult them for not being there?
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These sorts of discussions always remind me of an incident in Champaign-Urbana.
Hooters decided to open up there and a group of "feminists" (as much as I hate to use the word) decided to protest on their opening day. The waitresses came outside and offered the feminists to come inside and meet them and hang out and have a beer, promising them that they really were nice girls and missing the entire point of the protest.
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My name is Bob the Lawyer, and I have been known to make snap judgements about people based on their appearance when they deviate from my "norm." Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong and most of the time I never get to know the person well enough to find out.
It comes with being human.
Or maybe I'm just a terrible person. The jury is still out on that.
(Not that I'm pro popularity contests, but people saying they've never made judgements about someone based on their appearance baffle me.)
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I agree. Of course everyone makes judgements based on appearance. Whether you find most people attractive or not, some people will inevitably be more attractive than others to you.
I think the problem many are having - aside from the vomit factor of popularity contests - is that it's just silly and could possibly hurt someone's feelings. I certainly think there are several people on this forum who would rank pretty high on my internal attractiveness monitor, but I'm not gonna start a thread listing them. In this way Hatrack is a lot like a family - if you include only some publicly, then you leave others out.
I think I've said my piece now. I just hate seeing this kind of thing on Hatrack, just like I hate seeing debates turn into name-calling, which doesn't happen very often, thank goodness.
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I have the simple solution . . . we have surely had enough group get-togethers that there is at least one for each month.
Ta-daaa!!!!
And probably, something COULD be put together that is very Hatrack based and the Card's could sell it and off-set the costs of running this joint . . .
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We should have a Couples of Hatrack Formed in 2004 2005 Calendar. I'm sure there's at least 12.
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Actually, I love the idea of a Hatrack Calendar. But I think each month should be a collage of people (female *and* male) who are willing to be on it and are interested in or have been nominated to be on that month. No popularity contest, just a calendar Jatraqueros could purchase and have in their home as a reminder of the people who mean so much to them. No one need be left out, but people could opt to not be included.
A couple years ago, my parents gave all us kids such a calendar of our family, each month having a collage of pictures. I loved it!
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*raises hand* I will sacrifice myself to be in the hatrack calender. I have no moral objections to anything so that's gotta make up for all that I lack in as calender girl material. 15 minutes of semi-fame, here I come!
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If only your brain was my brain, you would find that funny, too.
Meh, so tired.
I just had this vision of Tom's section of the calendar being him all grim, dark and batman-y. Funny, see? No? Go to first sentence of this post.
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January could be Dobie month... February could be hug thread month... March could be the glad-this-isn't-an-onanism-month... december could be the last post month... Thor could supply some of the artwork...
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