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I have to admit to a certain confusion. Why would a teenage girl with bad posture want to wear clothes which accentuate an emerging potbelly, when us 40-something women are trying so hard to suck it in and take it back to the old flat-tummy days?
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Off topic – the title made me think of a phrase that keeps popping up on another board I’ve been reading (yes, Hatrack, I’ve been cheating on you ) The second most common phrase to express disapproval of something (after “tacky”) seems to be “___ is so eighties.” Has anyone else heard/seen this? When did the eighties become the epitome of uncoolness?
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Errr, oh yeah, gotta admit when I get the abs back where they belong, i.e., firmly situated, I WILL wear jeans that show navel.
Not sure whether I am suffering from jealousy that young folks get to wear the cool clothes, or a desire not to see pre-pubescent girls dressed like tarts. Some of each, I suspect.
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It is true that "That 70's Show" is a hit and "That 80's Show" lasted half an episode. If you judge by that, then the 80's did blow.
I had fun though. Innocent and carefree were my days then the Space Shuttle Challenger blew up and we watched it on TV at school. That was when reality of the world set in.
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I, too, am very sad to hear that "the slut is dead" and kinda liked some things about the 80's... and am happy that my local boys Bowling for Soup continue to do well (don't they do "I Love the 80's"?)
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Wow, I sure am going to miss the barely-covering skirts ("ass-skirts" as they've been fittingly described) and five inches of stomach and sheer shirts with oddly (sorry, "artfully") ripped holes in them.
When will people learn that that's not cool in an office or even academic setting? Grr...
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I'm guessing these times remarkably coincide with those times you find things offensive.
Seriously, I'm suprised you say this. It isn't usually tolerated on Hatrack, if at all. I don't even really see you doing it in your posts. Why larger society but not Hatrack?
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I find it rather amusing that these new fashions seem to be described as rather extreme modesty, but I applaud the very, very large step in the right direction. Well presuming this is actually what's going to happen....
I find the current ... female fashions to be very bothersome. It's distracting to me, and everytime I see a girl walk by dressed like ... well in this type of clothing I always feel the need to look away, or at the ground. At a college campus I've come to truely appreciate the magnficiences that is the concrete under me. My only refuge is in riding my bike everywhere way too fast so that I barely have time to recognize if someone iss there so I can avoid them, I go by way too fast sometimes to even notice gender. Unforuntaly, I don't always have this luxury, and I'll be glad if this becomes less of a factor.
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Granted, standards differ from audience to audience, but when the fashion resembles something you'd see standing on a street corner at 03:30 in the morning, working the docks...well.
A little teasing, a little flirting can be very fun and personally, I like having something left to the imagination rather than really bad attempts to show off what you haven't got.
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Do more modest clothes make it so you don't have these distractions, Hobbes? The hint of flesh, the shape of an object hinted at, is often much more provocative and erotic for me than the actual uncovered object itself. I mean, you guys do realize that women aren't going to revert to wearing chadors so that the various lovely curves of the female body are going to be hidden?
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I'm happy with the idea - I do my best to maintain eye contact, but if you're wearing a top that might be better suited to my back pocket as a hanky, so sorry.
If you don't want people looking, next time pick a top with more than two square inches of fabric.
Granted, this in no way should ever be construed as an excuse or license to touch, but c'mon - you have no right to complain if you happen to draw an audience.
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I think the rules of the game are that you look when not directly addressing the woman. It's mostly rude to talk to a woman's breasts or lick your chops while your eyes travel up and down her body. Posts: 13123 | Registered: Feb 2002
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They are! At least the music... You go to any club for 20 or 30 somethings and that's all you hear. It's great! Posts: 4953 | Registered: Jan 2004
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If modesty continues to come back, my daughter will finally be cool!
Although, she is even more modest than my standards - she won't wear shorts in the summertimes. Says she doesn't want that much of her legs exposed. She wears capris.
To quote my daughter "Shorts are for running track. They don't make you look good, and you can be just as comfortable and cool in capris."
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Storm, I find these "slutwear" outfits to be far less "sexy" then something more modest, that also alows for greater freedom of movement, basically what you said, but I find the slutwear (what a werid term, I feel werid just typing it ) far more distracting. For one, it tends to be (though I admit it isn't always) much more... bright! There's also the attitude that goes along with it. I mean let's face it, you don't put the goods on display, if you will, if you're not in the market, it mixes in with the whole attitute of the look.
I've got a desk full of 80's music, and my buddies all tease me about my "gay band" collection.
Pet Shop Boys anyone?
Back on topic: I will be relieved when thong exposure goes away. Trying not look, and worrying about getting caught looking, and worrying about pitching a tent in public... I'll be relieved.
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What's interesting to me about about this thread is that you see negative objectification coming from the modest crowd, rather than the immodest crowd. If the theories of exposure that the modesty people have espoused were true, it seems like we would see the exact opposite.
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People in my generation really aren't going to stop wearing clothing that show's everything, maybe a few will.
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I don't like the term slutwear. Why are we attaching negative moral judgements based on how a woman looks? Just because someone is dressing in a certain way doesn't mean she is promiscuous, and even if she is unless you're her parent (if she's under 18) or her doctor, that's none of your business.
At the same time, I decidedly think there are time and places where more revealing clothes are and are not appropriate. Most places of employement = not appropriate. Most schools probably also = not appropriate. And as I believe we've discussed in the past, the age range for this clothing seems to be getting younger and younger, and that's probably not appropriate. But that's the parent's call, especially when they're buying the clothing.
I also agree that you shouldn't wear it unless you're okay with people looking. It's rather disingenuous to wear tight or skimpy clothing and then complain about people giving you the once-over... but again, there's a difference between looking and touching, between being appreciative and making lewd comments. I'm not going to dress provocativly unless I know where I'm going and who I'm going to be with, and am confident that the situation is going to be safe for me. But I get to make that call, no one else, and if I'm wrong, I'm the one who has to take the responsibility for it.
That said, I'm going to go workout. My vinal hip-huggers are a little tight, and since it's fall I know I'm going to want to wear them again soon.
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I'll repeat what I said in the other thread.
If you dress in a way that allows me to confuse you with a prostitute, then I will refer to what you're wearing as "slutwear". If you wear a white lab jacket, I may call it your doctor wear.
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My only refuge is in riding my bike everywhere way too fast so that I barely have time to recognize if someone iss there so I can avoid them, I go by way too fast sometimes to even notice gender. Unforuntaly, I don't always have this luxury, and I'll be glad if this becomes less of a factor.![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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to say it, I find the slutware attractive. At least in the sense that it becomes very difficult to look away.![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
