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Speed
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First off, here's the picks from the staff of The Onion A.V. Club.

Second, here's the picks from Amazon's editors.

Third, although it's a little bloated and may include a few albums from 2003, here's the Grammy Nominations.

I'm not usually one to ask about best new albums, since I tend to find myself buying stuff at least five to ten years old, if not more. But I've heard more new music than usual this year. Here's what I think about some of them:

Heard and Loved:
  • Los Lonely Boys: Los Lonely Boys
  • Modest Mouse: Good News For People Who Love Bad News
  • Bebel Gilberto: Bebel Gilberto
  • BT: Monster
  • DJ Shadow: Live! In Tune and On Time
Heard and Liked:
  • Franz Ferdinand: Franz Ferdinand
  • Brian Wilson: Smile
  • U2: How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
  • Larry Carlton: Sappphire Blue
  • Armin Van Buuren: A State of Trance 2004
Heard, Didn't Think Lived Up To Hype:
  • Maroon 5: Songs About Jane
  • Prince: Musicology
  • David Byrne: Grown Backwards
  • Fourplay: Journey
Would Like to Hear:
  • Wilco: A Ghost Is Born
  • Loretta Lynn: Van Lear Rose
  • Camper Van Beethoven: New Roman Times
  • John Adams: On the Transmigration of Souls
  • Zero 7: When It Falls
  • William Shatner: Has Been (produced by Ben Folds)
Anyone hipper than me have any contrary opinions? Any insight on things I haven't heard?
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TomDavidson
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Nellie MacKay's "Get Away From Me" was frankly wonderful. I also enjoyed the recent Perfect Circle, Modest Mouse, and Secret Machine releases, and found two or three tracks to like on Jason Mraz's "Waiting for My Rocket to Come."

I was disappointed in the U2 and Velvet Revolver albums, both of which never lived up to the promise of their singles.

I found "Smile" to be the single most overrated album of the year. Critics fell over their own feet to praise it, but I think it's horribly overproduced and generally underwhelming. Contrast that with "Van Lear Rose," Loretta Lynn's collaboration with Jack White -- which is an example where underproduction almost amounts to over-production unless it's done really well (which, in this case, it is.) You can make the same criticism of Tom Waits' "Real Gone" and Elvis Costello's "The Delivery Man;" they're albums with some very strong songs and images that have been underproduced to within an inch of their lives.

[ December 08, 2004, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]

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Smile is a masterwork. Not overrated at all.

Arcade Fire's debut was probably my album of the year.

Other than that I enjoyed

Interpol - Antics
Wilco - A Ghost is Born
Bjork - Medulla

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quote:
William Shatner: Has Been (produced by Ben Folds)

[Eek!] [Angst]
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sndrake, I a couple of reviews that said it was actually good.

I KNOW!!

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It just occurred to me that I bought no CDs this year. Not one. Very strange.

Dagonee

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I only buy CDs after christmas, because I can't afford it, and end up spending all of my Best Buy gift cards on music.

Not even sure what I'd buy this year. Might get dvds.

So you're not alone, Dag.

Ni!

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Let me reiterate:
"Smile:" Pretentious, overproduced mess.
"Get Away From Me:" brilliant first album.

If you have to buy one album this year, make it the latter. [Smile]

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The Dollyrots - "Eat My Heart Out"
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William Shatner's Has Been is actually pretty decent. It has some touching moments, but it's mostly just funny. When he tries to be dramatic, it usually comes off as melodrama, but otherwise it's good stuff.

I think Elliot Smith's From a Basement on the Hill is one of the best albums of 2004. Unfortunately he comitted suicide, and this is the album which he mostly finished before his death.

My personal favorite of 2004 is Hayden's Elk-Lake Serenade. He's a Canadian artist who, earlier in his career, was mostly known for his depressing ballads. With each new album he seems to be happier, but in any case the music is consistently excellent. I saw him live earlier this year, and it was one of the best concerts I've ever attended.

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The 5 best albums of 2004 are:

-Air: Walkie-Talkie
-Mos Def:New Danger
-RJD2: Since We Last Spoke
-Modest Mouse: Good News For People Who Love Bad News
-Elliot Smith: From A Basement On A Hill

Hugest letdown is:

-Zero 7: When It Falls [Frown]

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Elliott Smith - From a basement on the hill = best record of the year

Brian Wilson - SMILE = amazingly wonderful

Beastie Boys - To the 5 Boroughs = biggest letdown.

Hope for agoldensummer - hearts in jars = best discovery of the year

Franz Ferdinand and The Killers are both worth honorable mention...as are Rilo Kiley and Now It's Overhead, and Morrisey, and damn there was some good stuff this year.

[ December 08, 2004, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]

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2004 albums I bought and thought were quite good:

Thirteen Step - A Perfect Circle (what's good is great, what isn't is meh)
2 AM Wakeup Call - Tweaker (ditto, but great to listen to all the way through)
Welcome to the North - The Music (these guys are pretty underrated)
Show & Tell - Silvertide (what the Velvet Revolver album should have been)

I haven't heard all of American Idiot, but what I've heard of it is way better than Green Day have any right to be sounding. I really like Boulevard of Broken Dreams.

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in all fairness, Green Day's Kerplunk and Dookie were both two extremely solid offerings. I think American Idiot was a great album.
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Nellie McKay was great as was Modest Mouse. Jason Mraz was good, but even his live album didn't do his live shows any justice (not that they were bad, his live shows are just that good). Green Day I'm really enjoying. Rachael Yamagata's Happenstance was pretty good, although I only like maybe half of it so far. I can't get over how much I love Muse's Absolution. The new Good Charlotte was ok and Lola Ray was pretty decent. That's all I can remember now.
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crap. i almost forgot XIU XIU's FABULOUS MUSCLES!
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Oh, I forgot to mention American Idiot! A few of the tracks are self-indulgent rambling, but there are some excellent songs on there; as a previous poster noted, it's a better album than Green Day has any right to make. [Smile]
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crap sandwich...

i almost forgot DJ DANGERMOUSE's THE GRAY ALBUM

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From a Basement on the Hill is probably my favorite album of the year, but it was also the most depressing. That was due mainly to what the album represents than what the album contains.

Good New for People Who Love Bad News was also really good, but, in all honesty, "Float On" was the first time I had ever heard of Modest Mouse. But this album really got me hooked on them, which made me get The Moon and Antarctica, which I liked even more.

To The 5 Boroughs by Beastie Boys, Encore by Eminem, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb by U2, and Pressure Chief by Cake were all pretty disappointing.

Elephunk by Black Eyed Peas (I think that was 2004, could be '03) was entertaining at first, but the songs were quickly overplayed.

As for new artists, Franz Ferdinand was where it's at this year. I haven't purchased that CD yet, but I plan to in the very near future.

At first, I was turned off by American Idiot. I mean, in my opinion, the first single sucked, and a psuedopunk bad doing a concept album? WHAT?! But it was good. Very good, actually. I love it.

And I like what I've heard so far of Futures by Jimmy Eat World, but I haven't heard enough of it to judge the album. But they're Arizonans, so it has to be good.

Also, I like Jem and her album, and I usually don't like anything techno.

[ December 10, 2004, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]

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Wait a dog-gone minute. Elliot Smith commited suicide?! How on earth did I miss this? Woah!

OK, moving on...

The Amazon list seemed much more informed than The Onion. Props for listing Nick Cave's new double album, Abbatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus, so high (#12). I think it's easily my favorite album of the year (yes, even above my precious U2 -- which didn't make their list at all?! I mean, on first listen it didn't grab me by the balls, but even a bad U2 album is better than most of the stuff on any of these lists). I know Cave isn't everyone's cop 'o tea, but this one is absolutely amazing. I can't recommend it enough.

Also missing, Sam Phillips' A Boot and a Shoe, Buddy Miller's Universal United House of Prayer, Patty Griffin's Impossible Dream, Pedro the Lion's Achilles Heel and Ron Sexsmith's Retriever.

I liked Modest Mouse's Good News For People Who Love Bad News a lot too.

I haven't heard Wilco, Costello or Waits' latest albums yet.

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M, "Le tour de M".
That rocks !
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Okay, this was released July 2003, but it is such a great album:

http://nitinsawhney.com/music/format/+humancd/index.html

Mark had this for a long time before I really started listening to it. Now I can't put it down. I think I've gone through the entire thing eight times in three days, it's perfect music to work to.

Initially, I think, I had dismissed it as just another one of Mark's classical Indian music CDs. Sarangi, tabla, yep, I got it, moving along.... so stupid of me! Now, I go through the tracks, and each one is just an amazing melding of musical styles, from indian to r&b to latin to western pop to acoustic to electronic...

I wish I hadn't been so eager to give it a label and refuse to really listen to it, because it's a beautiful and moving piece of work. Good thing I finally gave it a chance. [Smile]

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Field 4: Rock:
Ryan Adams is up for "Best Solo Rock Vocal Performance" but I still like Oasis' version better. Hmph.
I'd give this award to Melissa Etheridge, because she rocks.

"Best Rock Performance By A Duo Or Group With Vocal" should go to Green Day.

"Best Hard Rock Performance" Hmm, probably Duality.

"Best Metal Performance" man, they're all good. But The Rise of Brutality is just too good, so this one's gotta go to Hatebreed.

i saw an Allman Brothers Band nomination. I don't care what it is. They should win it. [Smile] Am I the only one that loves them?

"best rock song".. hmm, that's a tough one. it's a toss up between fall to peaces, somebody told me, american idiot, .. i'd go for fall to pieces.

american idiot definately deserves best rock album. have you guys heard that thing? Ahhh, greatness.

I have a feeling Green Day is going to be dominating. Just a hunch.

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I only listened to two new albums all the way through this year.

U2's new album was brutal. They have much more talent and ability then Atomic Bomb demonstrated

R.E.M's new album, Around the Sun, I really enjoy. A lot. I think its their best effort since Automatic for the People.

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My favorites this year:

Stay by Jeremy Camp

Space In Between Us - Building 429

Farmgirl

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Hey Zeugma, thanks for the Nitin Sawhney recommendation. I'm listening to it now and I'm loving it.
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I have to nominate Ray Charles' Genius Loves Company. Awesome album.
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I don't know if my judgement is clouded by years of idolizing Billie-Joe but I think that American Idiot was the best album Green Day has produced so far and could trump almost anything you guys can throw at it. Mind you I'm falling away from the music crowd but the political statements alone made by American Idiot prove that it's not just some pumped out as quickly as possible future coaster for the rooms or rock fans everywhere. and off topic the music video helped emphasise the statement they are making and it broke my heart when VH1 called an Eminem track a better political statement than American idiot. Back on topic, I defy you to name a track on that album that was substandard or less than awesome
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Dispite buying something like 50 new cds this past year, only a handful of albums came out in 2004 that I felt were worth getting (ie, I mostly bought older stuff). 2003 was really a much better year IMHO.

These are the only ones that come to mind:

The Tangent - The World That We Drive Through
Karmakanic - The Wheel of Life
U2 - How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb

Honorable Mentions go to:

Rush - Feedback (EP) - Cover songs, so this can't really count, but I'm putting it here cause I'm a Rush fanboy
The Flower Kings - Adam & Eve - Not quite up to par with the band's usually amazing output. Not enough Roine Stolt singing on this one, and 2002's Unfold The Future is a hard act to follow. Still though, a very solid effort and worth having.

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Wow. Just received Graham Parker's new album, and it is very, very good. He hasn't been in the mix much these days, but was always a fave of mine.

Oh, Speed, thank you again, by the way.

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quote:
2 AM Wakeup Call - Tweaker (ditto, but great to listen to all the way through)
Yes yes yes. Each song is like a chapter in a wonderful novel. I'm in love with that cd.

Modest Mouse's is great too, imo.

My personal favorites of the year, besides 2AMWUC are The Tipping Point (the Roots) and Frustration Plantation (Rasputina).

Red Dirt Road by Brooks and Dunn is wonderful too, i *believe* its 2004...

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Am I the only one who was severely disappointed by 'American Idiot'? (the song, not the entire album!)
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Probably. Most people I've talked to think it's a near perfect pop-punk single. And since Green Day's a pop-punk band, that's probably for the best. [Smile]
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I have no quarrel with the song, though I wouldn't say I love it. What I do love are the following four tracks. [Smile]
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VH1 called an Eminem track a better political statement than American idiot.
Emiwho? If I'm thinking of the same song, that thing was wretched! And the only thing it might have done was incite a riot of morons.

Grrr. If I had been watching that, why, i would have... changed the channel! [Mad]

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Oh, Speed, thank you again, by the way.
You're most welcome. I'm just glad you liked it, and that you're feeling better. [Big Grin]
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Call me a biased U2 fan(because I am one), I really enjoyed How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb.
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Since my first post, I picked up the Wilco and the Zero 7. When I first heard the Zero 7, I thought it was pretty good. But the more I hear it the less I like it. It's better then Another Late Night, but I'm starting to lose hope that they'll ever live up to the promise they showed with their first album.

As for the Wilco, I'm having a hard time getting into that as much as I was into Being There, the other album by them that I own. A Ghost Is Born is a very dense album, and I haven't put a lot of time into it, so I'll freely admit that I may like it more once I "get" it. Of course, I may also eventually decide that it's an overrated pretentious piece of crap. I'm optimistic, but not ready to commit myself just yet.

So, to sum up, I guess my list of best albums from the first post hasn't changed yet. [Smile]

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Am I the only one who was severely disappointed by 'American Idiot'? (the song, not the entire album!)
Nope. But "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and everything else on the album more than made up for it.
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Agreed [Smile]
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Has anyone read Maddox's eleven worst songs of 2004? (Link contains offensive words and offensive material in general)

He has some good things to say about U2.

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