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I just saw Troy. This looked almost identical. Minor differences in the actors, but other than that. . .
And who cares if he can act or not? He's hot. (When he's not blond. I didn't even notice him in LoTR. I didn't notice him till Pirates of the Caribbean when he had normal hair and I asked my husband, "Ooh, who's the hottie" to which he said, "that's the same guy from the LoTR. Well, he wasn't hot in LoTR!)
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Five of my best friends are girls. I saw all three LOTR movies with them, and judging from the squealing and giggling he is in fact hot in those movies, at least to 18 year old girls.
I think it's funny they had to glue fake hair to his chest to make him look more manly.
Other than the fact that it's a period piece (OMG Orlando Bloom in a period piece no way! It's new! It's revolutionary! It's...all too predictable) I don't see any similarities to Troy at all. Troy was based on a Homer work, and the actual story is about complex characters, many of which you love but they end up fighting each other (Hector and Achilles).
Furthermore, there isn't a religious element really in Troy, other than the ancient greek diety thing, whereas all of KoH is about religious war. Liam Neeson brings an entirely new quality to the movie that was entirely absent from Troy as well. Sorry, I just don't see the similarities. You can't label the movies as the same just because they happen to take place in the ancient world.
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I am an eighteen-year-old female person and while I admit that Mr. Bloom is attractive, I am not swooning- in fact many eighteen year old females find him far too "pretty", and prefer the more grizzled war-worn look (edit: not me, other people- I like happy people).
I am never the swooning type anyway.
Let me explain this rather odd statement that I am "proud of him": I have a nickname for him. It is 'British Wayside Flower'. British, for obvious reasons, Flower because he's (in the words of some of my friends) "pretty" and Wayside because he always wore that nervous look, the one that said "oh my goodness, I'm famous, how did this happen?" I know all about him (he has/d a dog called Maude) because my friends are psycho and also I write a story every year called the Oscar story which is essentially my friends at the Oscars having a wonderful time (while I cause trouble ). The name BWF was born out of the 2001 edition of this story.
This means I "get to know" the "characters" of my friends' favourite actors (in my story) rather well. The upshot of this is that some of them I am rather fond of in the way that one is fond of one's characters. Therefore, a success for OB(i wan- another nickname *sigh*) is, in a twisted and convoluted way, a nice thing and it makes me happy.
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He is incapale of facial expression, face it, no pun intended.
I will see it though because Liam Neason is a great actor, and so is Jeremy Irons, other than that, the film will be terrible, the fights overstylized, and the Islamic culture yet again butchered, though not as badly as in Alexander.....
quote: He is incapale of facial expression, face it, no pun intended
Not true. The look he gave Bernard Hill in the Two Towers after Viggo Mortensen had fallen off the cliff was heart wrenching. I've always felt that to be a very emotional moment, and thought it was fantastic acting.
quote: the Islamic culture yet again butchered
To be fair, this takes place what, more than a thousand years ago? A lot of Islamic culture today isn't exactly what I'd call friendly and peaceful, back then it wasn't any better. I would be saddened if they paint Muslims back then as blood thirsty savages, but likewise I will be apalled if they try and make them out to be wise and peaceful, only forced into war at the hands of bloodthirsty Christians. Sometimes people earn their reputations.
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Hmm. It's a good think Hatrack dumps periodically because a lot of people who weren't 18 were attracted to Bloom as Legolas for a while there. I don't think I would have ever seen the movies if it weren't for the glimpses of him on the preview.
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But as to the comments about how the movie will be bad, over stylized etc... its made by the same guy who did Gladiator!! He did an AWESOME job with Gladiator. They may screw it up, but its definately not a sure thing. It looks like it will be pretty good to me.
And a point on the crusades, the crusades were just the Europeans being blood thirsty morons. In a couple of the crusades they carved a bloody swath through EUROPE on their way TO the crusades. Before they even ran into any muslims. In the fourth crusade they never even made it to muslim lands, they were too busy sacking the christian city of Constantinople (sp?). And the Europeans were the invaders in this case, the muslims were just protecting their homes. And actually in this time period, the European christians were violent barbarians, and the muslims, relative to the Europeans anyway, were the enlightened ones. They were busy studying the knowledge of the Greeks and Romans, doing astronomy, doing math, all those things Europe will catch on to in the renesaince (sp?) they get from the muslims and just carry further. The muslims preserved all the ancient knowledge the Europeans start studying, which then kicked off the renesaince.
Now I'm not saying that there weren't wars where the muslims were the aggressor, there certainly were (Spain). But in the case of this movie's subject, they weren't the aggressor.
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Oh I see him now. He had a helmet on, and more beard than he did in Harry Potter, but I recognise him from his voice.
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I kept getting him mixed up with the guy who played Faramir in LOTR. Because he LOOKS like Faramir, even if he sounds different. Posts: 4089 | Registered: Apr 2003
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Hey, it's about stupid men (living in a time before deodorant and they are always hot and sweaty, yuck) and they are fighting an epic battle using swords, shields and flaming arrows. It sounds just like Troy. Minor plot differences aside, it's a bunch of stinky men killing each other with flaming arrows and swords.
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Using the theory that men using swords and flaming arrows makes all movies that contain those things the same, I suppose I could say that Gladiator, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, Lord of the Rings, Timeline and a host of other movies are all just the same thing with minor plot differences. People are just too critical of movies these days.
And is Dr. Bashir supposed to be a Muslim? The British accent might ruin that.
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Actually, his real name is Siddig El Fadil and he's half British, half Sudanese.
Still think he can't pull of Muslim?
And yeah those movies are pretty much the same. However, I think the major difference is the location. Troy and what I saw of the Kingdom of Heaven trailer were both set in sand. It's a much different look than the woodsy setting of LoTR and lots of Gladiator. But I'd give you The Mummy. Posts: 9871 | Registered: Aug 2001
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It looks a lot like Gladiator. The lighting is very similar in several scenes. Even one of the sets - there's a shot right at the begining that looks identical to the Elysium Fields.
I hope this is a serious historical story. No silly anachronisms, ie the commoner Orlando Bloom marrying that princess.
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Yes, it would be nice to see something historically accurate- not just in costume and set but in realities.
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Although there is the potential for it to be contraversial... crusades and all... current events...
But it still looks cool and Orlando Bloom is a hottie.
I read once that the original cause of the Crusades was actually a distress call from Constantinople for aide from Western Europe. The newborn Islamic armies were rampaging in the east and were attempting to invade the Eastern Roman Empire...take Constantinople and then march in and conquer all of Europe. The whole saving the Holy Land was just a recruitment poster used by the Pope and other Kings to get willing troops. That would be cool if the movie was about that!
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