I was so angry that Palmer didn't pardon him at the end of the last season. I assume that happened off screen later. Awesome. He's hands down my favorite 24 character.
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The other nutjob is Heller. "You're torturing my son??? Carry on, carry on." That was just unbelievable, especially after all the sacrifices we've seen Jack and Tony make for their families.
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When I saw Tony come out of nowhere I felt a mixture of and at the same time.
Shouldn't Jack know by now that he should be carrying an extra gun and as many extra clips as he can carry on his person?
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If you were a field agent would you ever want to go on a mission with Jack? Everytime he goes on a mission his whole team is wiped out.
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I started this thread with a warning of Spoilers. I tried to be nice. I really did.
BUT>....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rant rant rant rant
I forgot to watch 24 on Monday! That is right. I forgot! What is worse, I forgot that I forgot, and so I begin the day with checking up on Hatrack and I read all the spoilers about Tony...
My own thread got me !!!!
I am a big fan...how could I forget?
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Wait a tick!
No I didn't. That was Speed..I just checked it so much I felt like it was mine.
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I'm surprised they let the son go without a tail or an escort or taps on all his phones or bugs in his backpack ...
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I was really expecting Heller to turn around and say, "Put a tail on him." I find it hard to believe they wouldn't on their own anyways. I also thought Heller was convinced by the lie detector test and his own talk with his son that he was hiding something. I think he just released him because Heller wanted his son to think he believed him.
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So here's what I've been wondering, as a resident of Oregon. Exactly which city is threatened? Oregon no longer has a nuclear power plant (the Trojan reactor was shut down, and it's not in the right place on the map anyway). Oregon State University has a breeder reactor for research, and Corvalllis is much closer to the spot shown on the big map at CTU. But it isn't a power plant. The only large city right near the spot indicated is Bend, and I doubt they even have a power plant there. Anyhow, I'll be interested to see where exactly the threat in Oregon is. I'll be very weirded out if it's my hometown that gets evacuated.
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Tony is my new favorite character. Poor guy. WHy did he have to drive off Michelle? His character seems to be the only character with real development. Go Tony GO!!
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quote: How many people can they wrongly torture this year?
Who have they wrongly tortured before? I like this new direction. To date 24 has always benefited from torturing. Now Jack has set a precedent that proved to be a bad precedent. I like how this show is developing.
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I had really thought that Jack was going to call Chloe when he said, "The only person I can trust." Of course I was also thinking that it would be unrealistic for someone to appear out of nowhere and save the day.
I also don't believe Tony's about face about helping Jack was realistic.
Do you really believe that SecDef's son is actually going to turn out completely innocent?
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Jack clearly didn't set the precedent. He shot a guy in the knee while CTU used sensory deprevation and elctro-shock both of which obviously existed only because torture was considered a viable option before Jack.
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Tony showing up within three minutes annoyed me. And being able to shoot the bad guys, get back to Tony's, load software, find the right frame, send said frame, get an identification, get Secret Service to bring you a car, then get to the heliport, get bad guy, get bad guy killed and do it all in an hour is just beyond incredible. Especially in LA. Heck, it takes more than three minutes for me to get to the store and I live in a town of less than 6 thousand.
The whole "real time" thing was the reason I only watched one episode the first year. The first scenes were of Jack at home with his wife talking about a missing daughter. He had to go in to work and his wife was going to call around and try to find her. Three minutes later, as Jack is pulling in to work, he calls his wife and asks if she's found the daughter. Apparently, Tony and Jack three minutes from everywhere. But I couldn't watch anymore of it after that. Yes, I watched the entire season in 24 hours right before the start of season 2, which, in my opinion, is the only way to watch this show. It's totally unrealistic. But fun, if your sleep-deprived.
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Now Jack just tortured his girlfriends ex. That leaves um...well about two people who haven't been tortured this season.
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Did you see the previews for next week? It is setting up Erin Driscoll leaving CTU and Tony being put back in charge. Now he just has to get Chloe back. Then his ex-wife can show up and the dream team will have been assembled.
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The Dream Team for what? I don't think they're going to use the rest of this season to set up next season.
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Bring back Palmer! He was the best President ever! He'd solve all of this nonsense with he terrorists running rampant in LA. The show was better when the president played a bigger role in the story.
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With Palmer gone, Jack is the only character with any substance left. Tony switching from showing up out of nowhere, to claiming that he wants nothing to do with what's going on, to claiming he has to protect Jack because if he didn't then he would have saved him for nothing, to wanting to quit again, to agreeing to bossing around Driscoll was a bit unrealistic.
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I agree that the plot with Driscoll's daughter was largely an annoyance and then a blatant attempt at emotional manipulation. I guess they needed a good way to get rid of Driscoll in order to make room for Tony.
Also, is 24 trying to make the point that torture is a stupid thing to do? Why doesn't anyone ever get in trouble? I'd expect that Sarah, for instance, would be in the position to make a lot more demands than expunging the arrest and higher pay.
Did anyone watch the previews? What was that big apparently dangerous thing?
Oh, and there is no functioning nuclear power plant in Oregon. So what was melting down?? Are they ever going to tell us?
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I don't think they cared about whether there was actually a nuclear plant there. Its like making up ficticious towns, soft drinks, or fast food places.
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The head terrorist guy (the one that escaped by impersonating a CTU agent)... Omar? was that his name?
Anyway, he mentioned something about the important thing was that one had melted down... implying that there was a bigger plan they could do with a reactor melted. That and there's still like 12 hours left.
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The only thing that bugged me about the torture scene this time was how needless it was. I mean, the guy turned out to be innocent, right? So if you were innocent and you knew that some information in your laptop might help thwart a group of terrorists while not implicating you, wouldn't you be eager to give up that information? But this guy not only resisted doing the obvious thing, he took torture before he'd let it out. It really doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe there's something that I missed, but it just seemed like an excuse for the writers to throw in another gratuitous torture scene.
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I don't think he's innocent. I think he still has something to hide and that will come into play.
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I think jack's girlfriend watching him work will scare her away. That seems to be what's developing...
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I am a huge fan of the show, but I think the writing has really deteriorated this season.
Time is no longer suspenseful. I thought when the terrorists in the second season got a flat tire was brilliant writing. If the whole concept of 24 is fitting everything in a day, then the writers should throw in more tension related to time constraints. Let it take an hour to get someplace, have congestion, and make reality a tension builder while you work on a subplot. The whole time thing has gotten past the "I can let this slip" phase.
How incompetent is everyone? Driscol, in middle of a nuclear melt-down, invite her out of control daughter into CTU? She visits her, doesn't restrain her or give her medicine? Driscol is a horribly incompetent boss.
I think I am loosing interest in this season. At least in the first season people got tired, hungry, and unshaved. The SoD looks like he just stepped out of a 40 minute shower.
Anyway...I am not expressing how disappointing the season appears to be.
ON a side note: I wonder how the president not granting full pardon to the son will affect the plot development.
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IIRC, the SoD did just step out of a shower. When they got him back to CTU he took some time to clean up and change clothes. Probably shave as well.
Also we are only about 10 hours into the day and it started at what, 7AM? Jack was just getting dressed, so one can assume that he had just showered and shaved while getting ready for work. I know that I have very little stubble after only 10 hours.
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What a selfish company, using a EMP bomb, destroying everything electronic for miles around. Poor Tony, now he has to work for his ex wife.
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I know I'm almost a week late, but I just wanted to mention that last week's torturing of Behruz was the most disturbing of the many torture sequences they've had this season. It's bad enough torturing ordinary innocent people. This kid was not only innocent, he actually left his family and put his very life in peril in order to stand up for the American government. Then as soon as the people he was protecting got their hands on him, the kid without whom they may not have been able to avert these attacks, they kill his mother, torture him, and use him as a pawn in a trade with the very people he just betrayed.
I realize that from the point of view of the protagonists it was a sensible course of action, that they were doing what they felt was necessary, but it still managed to turn my stomach in ways that I hadn't seen up until now this season.
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