I phrased that badly Icarus. I only ever said you were a pillar of the community to kiss your butt so you'd think I was cool (being honest here). I just never should have said that, and I should have retracted it in a way that didn't require anything from you. I'm sorry for that.
The thing I was reacting to is that you said "**** you" and after that came many posts where people said they agreed with you. Perhaps they weren't expressing support for that particular statement. I'm pretty sure they weren't. I just wanted to make clear that I didn't support that.
I do stand by something else I said, that you are not a cliquey type. I am. I accept that. I'm not going to be one of those cliquey types that insists there are no cliques.
I'll say on the general topic of cliques that they can be defined either by who is in them or by who is not in them. I try to use the former definition, because I think the later definition is where people get hurt more.
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I resent that statement, Dag! Our standards for low standards are high! Plus, I would love it if Tom joined the pun clique every now and then. His humor is too dry, though. I guess that makes our humor wet.
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(Notice that I like to use people's other names as a way of seeming cool. :-p )
For what it's worth, I love that you and I often disagree and can still like each other as people and respect each others' viewpoints. If Hatrack didn't bring together people of such differing backgrounds, I would never know your delightfully warped sense of humor and your generous, virtuous personality.
I think you're very cool.
(And I'm glad you're back here by the way. Interacting with people only on other forums seems lacking to me . . . it's only partial interaction.)
On the upside, George Bernard Shaw said, "Always let your flattery be seen through for what really flatters a man is that you think him worth flattering."
Oooo...I like this one.
quote:Take no repulse, whatever she doth say; For 'get you gone,' she doth not mean 'away.' Flatter and praise, commend, extol their graces; Though ne'er so black, say they have angels' faces. That man that hath a tongue, I say is no man, If with his tongue he cannot win a woman.
From that page, I realized the perfect word for Slash the Bezerker: gallant. He is always gallant.
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I'm not spanking - it just made me think of it. Flattery is flattering - the sentiments may be invented, but the wish to please is real. In a place like this, with no money and no power to confer upon one another, the only reason to flatter is because the person has distinguished themselves enough that their approval is desirable. Even being related to someone admired isn't enough to gather flatterers; Icky has earned his accolades all on his own.
It is, incidentally, one of the things I love about Hatrack. I've always thought that Hatrack was a bit like a well-written play that needs a little editing, and like what I think great literature should be, it's a distillation of humanity.
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Hatrackers tend to flatter those they disagree/fight with but still get along with, much more wildly and extravagantly than those they, in general, agree with and get along with.
i find that fascinating!
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quote:Hatrackers tend to flatter those they disagree/fight with but still get along with, much more wildly and extravagantly than those they, in general, agree with and get along with.
i find that fascinating!
I think this is true.
I think it's because we--perhaps incorrectly--assume that the people we agree with all the time know how we feel about them and don't need to be told. (Sounds like family members who never say "I love you," eh?) Conversely, though--and I think this is a valid observation--people we disagree with may eventually take it personally. They may come to believe that we simply don't like them. And so it feels more important to reassure those people, before they draw that conclusion.
Put in that light, it sure sounds like taking some people for granted, though. :-\
I know, maybe I should start another hug thread . . .
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I don't think I go out of my way to flatter people I don't agree with, but I will go out of my way to agree with someone on some point if I ordinarily don't agree with them on everything else.
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