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TheHumanTarget
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Sure Dagonee. I'm always willing to help! [Smile]

Buy Haliburton, Lockheed-Martin, Titan, and ChoicePoint. All of these should be good for at least 4 to 6 more years.

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Dagonee
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Oh, touche. Well done.

Allow me to respond thusly:

[Taunt]

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[ROFL]
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Is it really baseless to predict that having Codoleeza Rice as Secretary of State is going to lead to us alienating foreign countries? I don't know, I'd figure that would be judging someone on their record. It's possible that she won't do as she has done, but I don't think suggesting that she is going to can be accurately characterized as baseless.
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She was in a position where her responsibility was not to negotiate or engage in diplomacy. If she does as she has done, it would mean she was either a bad NSA or will be a bad Secretary of State.

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Sorry, I was talking about the active and apparently whole hearted support of a foreign policy that understandibly alienated many other countries. I'd agree that if she acted the same way as Sec of State as she did as NSA, she'd be a bad Sec of State, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the apparent goals she has actively supported and her demonstrated lack of character and trustworthiness. I probably should have thrown in her inexperience with diplomacy too.
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It's no surprise, though, that Bush is nominating a Secretary of State who supports his agenda. If that's what's alienating, then the alienation happened Nov. 2, not this morning.

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Mr Squicky, I tend to agree with you.

All we can do now is wait and see what happens. Unfortunately, Rice has been loyal to the point of fanaticism when it comes to the Hand Puppet, and I don't expect her to take a different approach as Secretary of State.

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Dagonee, what made Colin Powell such a good Secretary of State was his ability to support the administrations agenda, but to do it within a diplomatically acceptable context. I sincerely doubt that he agreed with the majority of situations he found himself involved in, but he had an inate ability to provide damage-control. Rice doesn't seem to have this ability, and I think we're going to suffer for it.
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Dag,
I pretty much agree that the big alienating thing was Geogre Bush's reelection, but the selection of a Secretary of State is a big factor for the future. Our current Secretary of State has displayed a contempt for the opinions of other countries, a record of not being particularly worthy of trust, and very little diplomatic experience. Based on these things, I don't think it's baseless to say that she is going to alienate other countries more than other possible candidates for the position would have. As I also said, it's entirely possible that she'll act very differently, but based on what she's shown, I think predicting that she will alienate other countries is a good bet.

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Irami Osei-Frimpong
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quote:
It's no surprise, though, that Bush is nominating a Secretary of State who supports his agenda. If that's what's alienating, then the alienation happened Nov. 2, not this morning.
I understand, but is there something wrong with the Senate being obliged to rubber stamp Bush's appointments? If I were a Senator, I'd probably vote for her, after making sure the hearing was as contentious as it needed to be, but there seems to be something neglectful in approving her merely on the strength of the President's victory in Nov.

[ January 26, 2005, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: Irami Osei-Frimpong ]

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It looked pretty contentious to me. I don't consider it a rubber stamp.

[ January 26, 2005, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

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