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mackillian
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And me, Bob!

*stab*

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dkw
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And me!

Oh wait, I didn't post my score [Razz]

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Ela
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So, why don't you, Dana? [Smile]
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ooops! I forgot Ela!!!

Mack, I missed your scores entirely.

dkw -- I didn't want to drag you into this unless you wanted to post. [Kiss]

Good company indeed!

[Wink]

And now we can add The Rabbit too!

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Hmm. According to this test :

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (41).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (10).

I'm starting to worry myself. [Angst]

Oh well. I'm STILL voting Conservative.

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mackillian
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Kind of takes away the secretness of the liberal cabal...
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Is it bad that I feel very conservative based on this test compared to some of the other scores?!

O.o

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Annie
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I liked that test better, dh.

quote:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (50).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (5).


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Yeah that was a joke. One that I'd been trying to use since Hatrack started on this current round of politicalish threads.
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DH, on your test -- which I think is much more accurate, although perhaps biased towards libertarian economic policy -- I get this result:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (25).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (52).

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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (14).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (36).

There were more questions on this test to which none of the answers were satisfactory for me.

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Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.33

It seems pretty much certain that their "center" is actually too far northeast... and as has been mentioned many times, the questions were phrased very poorly.

quote:
Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory.
The first time I read this, I was thinking along the lines of education for all children or not. When I read it the second time, however, I'm thinking that it's probably referring to home-schooling. Very confusing.

And the very last question on the test is also poorly phrased; there's a "given" before the part of the statement that you're supposed to agree with or disagree with, and there's no option for disagreeing with the given. The "but" there jumped out at me immediately; how can you ask someone to agree or disagree with a statement that is actually composed of two different statements?

Edit:

On the second test, I got "On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (75).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (48)."

That seems much more accurate - although I would've thought I was a bit more to the right on fiscal issues.

[ January 26, 2005, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: reader ]

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twinky
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Ahhhh, the new test is a vast improvement over the first test.

quote:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (16).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (7).


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Huh:

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (21).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (9).

I wonder what makes me Moderate.

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Dunno. The fact that you're married? [Wink]
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You know, it still ticks me off that despite all the available evidence, random newbie conservatives come through here and call me an "extreme leftist." It's not that I think being an "extreme leftist" is bad, mind you, but they clearly mean it as an insult and yet it's just as clearly not applicable in my case.

So let me ask: what makes people think I'm an "extreme leftist?" Heck, what makes people think I'm an extreme anything? On every single test of this sort, I come up mildly socially libertarian and fiscally centrist. What views do people think I hold that I do not? Or what views do I hold, unmeasured by any of these tests, that make me automatically a liberal extremist?

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mackillian
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Hush twink [Wink]

Tom, I never though you an extreme liberal. Ever. I honestly don't see where others see it. [Dont Know]

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Ela – because I hadn’t yet, and my post was funnier if I didn’t then.

Tom – I’ve never considered you an extreme liberal. ‘Course, that’s probably because I score to the left of you on all measures.

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

And on the new test:

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (20).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (26).

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Yeah, I don't consider you an extreme liberal, either, Tom, though I know that some here do (and not all newbies, either).

From my point of view, you are pretty close to the center. [Big Grin]

(Then again, that might not be saying much, considering where I am. [Razz] )

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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (33)

On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Conservative (82)

I'm a tree-hugging hippie and a capitalist pig. [Smile]

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Tom, if you denounce your extreme liberalness, you're gonna have to give up leadership of the cabal. It is known.
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Ela
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On the quiz DH posted:

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (12).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (19).

Big surprise. [Smile]

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Irami Osei-Frimpong
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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (29).

On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (12).

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Economic: -2.75
Lib./Auth.: 2.46

Personally I really felt the way the questions were written were pushing me towards the left. I might have agreed to most of what a question asked but had on little part that I dissagreed with to keep me from agreeing. They could've at least put a "sometimes agree" option.

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Economic Left/Right: -0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (43).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (78).

Tell me these aren't conflicting?

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Misha McBride
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (39).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (71).

Interesting.

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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." is " Basically a socialist idea of 'take from the rich to support the poor' "

Nah, basicly a minor rephrasing of
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
or "Whatsoever thou doest unto the least and lowest, thou doest unto Me."
or "...all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

People being people, admittedly not very practical. Some people would insist that their contribution should be their ability to sit on the beach and drink pina coladas. And others would insist that they need a yacht.
Heck, most of us could easily feed somebody in the ThirdWorld with what we pay for our Internet connection.

Nonetheless, it is an ideal worth keeping in mind.

[ January 27, 2005, 03:44 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (22).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (45).

hm

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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (34).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (40).

On the same "radius", but more to the center. This seems a little more likely than the previous result. Although there have been some questions whose answers kind of confused me and others where I wasn't informed enough to have a definite opinion.

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quote:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (5).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (10).

Looks pretty much the same as the results of the other test, though Annie's test said that I'm more liberal on economic issues than on social issues.
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I'm like Gandhi it seems. [Smile]

Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67

and the other one:

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (35).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (35).

[ January 27, 2005, 05:38 AM: Message edited by: Telperion the Silver ]

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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (15)
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (18)

Yeah, I'm pretty liberal.

edit: Hey, I've passed 500 posts. Yay! Only took me a year.

[ January 27, 2005, 05:35 AM: Message edited by: St. Yogi ]

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Aspectre, that reminds me of an interview I heard on NPR last night. They were asking random people their thoughts on social security and one woman said:

"My mother passed away 2 months after she started getting social security checks. She didn't even get a fraction of what she put in. I mean, I'm sure it probably helped someone else, but the family could have really used that money."

It's sentiments like this that make me shake my head and sigh.

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Economic Left/Right: 3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

Hey! I'm more conservative than Dagonee!

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On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (48).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (35).

[Dont Know]

Added: Maybe the above is why the occasionally extremely conservative opinion from me gets people upset? Because it's a shock.

[ January 27, 2005, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: Lady Jane ]

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BOOOOGUS!

Or maybe I don't know myself very well.

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (30).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (20).

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quote:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 2.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.26

quote:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (56).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (75).

edit: added scores for 2nd test.

it appears that both tests put me in about the same place.

[ January 27, 2005, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: gnixing ]

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Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.87

This would explain my agony over trying to vote in the last election, if it's true. Better go take the other test.

Porter, you said you were almost exactly in the middle. Were you as close as I am?

Edit: took the other test.

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (55).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (42).

Yup. Right down the middle in both categories. Crazy me.

[ January 27, 2005, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: Brinestone ]

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In the interest of helping to determine the distance of the "center" of the first test from the "center" of the second test, I offer my results:

Economic Left/Right: -0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (64).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (67).

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As I recall from the last time, my scores on the first test make no sense. (I didn't even bother to take it again.)

But my score on the second test sounds about right:
quote:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (60).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (30).


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I got this as a resul
Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33
That puts me in the same region as Gandhi, The Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela....not bad If I say so myself

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Economic left/right 5.75
Social Libertarian/Auth -.46

I can't believe I'm the only one like Friedman on the whole board so far.

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