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Due to the rather large distance and expensive airfare, I will accept marriage proposals sent by letter, handwritten, on scented paper. Please enclose the printout of your bank account, photo, and a cover letter explaining why you would make the best candidate. Thank you.
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Shame on you... You won't even keep your own identity, why instantly become a Yank? That statistically reduces your status!
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Kama, you shouldn't steal other people's children. That is such a naughty thing to do. Oh and on topic....removing American from this side of the forum's name is a good idea. I support it.....so
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Why? What is the point of this movement? In this day of so much anti-Americanism why should we participate? Sure we have some international posters but that doesn’t mean anything. American culture is supposed to be multi cultural. If we were talking about setting up a new board and what to name it I might be able to see the point. But on an already established board with the name American in the title I think it would be a slap to do. Especially to our troops, who I imagine a hatracker or two, are in Iraq. Let America stand!
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No, Annie. I don't think it is. (What about Microsoft Works?)
I think American does have its own culture, and much of it is worthy of being called cultured.
Jay, I don't think this proposal has anything to do with anti-Americanism at all. It has nothing to do with the troops in Iraq.
When this board was created, it was probably assumed that nearly all of the posters would be American. As the board has developed, it has internationalized greatly. Wouldn't it be fitting to change the title to reflect that?
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quote: Sure we have some international posters but that doesn’t mean anything.
Thanks...
Actually it does mean something, at least in my opinion. We talk about more than just American culture here. The point is: Kama's request isn't "anty-American", it's just a way to get the title back on par with what we're actually discussing in this forum.
quote: But on an already established board with the name American in the title I think it would be a slap to do.
Why? 'Cause it is named "American" it cannot change?! Look, probably Mr. Card didn't think this forum would get so popular and so international at first, hence its current name. But I'm sure that he's more than happy to have people from around the world come and post here.
quote: Especially to our troops, who I imagine a hatracker or two, are in Iraq.
This is NOT a forum solely about supporting American troops. Hmm... I'm really trying to see what you wanted to say with this, but I honestly can't. I've said it before, I'm a supporter of the Irak war and American troops and I wanted Bush to win. But this name change has nothing to do with any political sentiments whatsoever.
If I wanted to give a sensible argument against this name change I'd have worded it like this:
"While this forum has become more and more international in the last few years, the majority of its contents still relate to the American society/culture and therefore I suggest keeping the word "American" in the title."
I mean -- I see your point -- posters on here, even long-timers, are from all over the world -- Poland, France, Israel, Sri Lanka, Australia. We talk about the culture of all the countries in our threads. Why have limits?
I vote with Kama - let's remove the word "American" just because this forum really does represent so much more than that. I think it has grown beyond what the Card's originally even imagined....
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Exactly, Corwin and Farmgirl. I think the Cards are pleased that the forum is doing so well. If I were them, I'd be glad to make the little gesture requred to recognize the more internationalized character of the board.
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I wonder what the Cards really think about this place. This seems to be a really great place to come to if you want to hear somebody being really nasty towards OSC.
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Actually, I'm all for the removal of "American," too. It's unnecessarily limiting.
Of course, you can make the argument that a title like "Books, Films, and Culture" isn't necessarily any more accurate.
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I also approve of the removal of the word "American" to help the title of this forum more accurately reflect the members and topics herein.
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There are a lot of places on the web where people are quite nasty toward OSC, or many other authors and public figures. Slashdot isn't much worse than the others, and on the whole, I think Hatrack is pretty civil (most of the time).
I guess come to think of it, "Books, Films, Food and Culture" isn't really all that much more accurate... But I don't know if adding "Politics" in there would help any more. We all know that's what comes up every other thread, but we don't identify ourselves as one of those forums.
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I suppose the odds of more OSC-related conversation are considerably higher here. But in general, I think that conversation is far more likely to be positive here than on most other sites on the Internet. The exception may be P-Web, since it's a big fan site that you kind of have to work to find, and thus doesn't attract the random crazies.
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People have only been 'nasty' to OSC when he is to some other groups. Basically, the only time people are mean to poor, ol' OSC is when he deserves it, as far as I'm concerned.
And no one, that I know of, has been 'nasty' towards him in a while.
And he gets praise on the forum, too.
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quote: I guess come to think of it, "Books, Films, Food and Culture" isn't really all that much more accurate... But I don't know if adding "Politics" in there would help any more