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I doubt they were caught. If they were, trespass and petty larceny - misdemeanors, probably no jail time assuming no priors.
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Apectre, I was there, he didnt kill us off, we fought with honor and with pride and we do so still.
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If I'm reading the guy's intent correctly, I think what he was trying to say was pretty close to what punwit first said. If so, I think it's an important point that is being suppressed* in most official channels. However, the guy's choice of ways to express it was very poorly made. It comes across initially as him wanting to hang soldiers and then, even on deliberation, still is (as Dag pointed out) a pretty bad symbol for his complaint (unles h'es trying to say that the American government or it's people are trying to get the soldiers killed.
* The factual reporting is there, but the emotionally resonant images like what this guy seems to be going for have been excised.
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Nope Dag I believe Squick was referring to Hermocrates of Syracuse as BC/Jarhead etc. As I recall he slipped once and signed Bean Counter to a Hermocrates post.
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I went back and searched where I thought it was, but several posts have been edited and it could have been deleted. I wish I had facts to back up my recollection though. If the accusation is false I would deeply regret it.
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Nope, I didn't see that. If we deleted all the stuff up to my initial post and BC hasn't seen them yet, I might be able to show you what I'm talking about, but I'm pretty sure that chance is gone. *shrug* No big deal really.
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To be fair, I was never quite sure that BC “admitted” that. Right after someone accused him of being Disgruntled Postman, he posted something along the lines of, “yeah, I’ve been lying about what I do this whole time, I’m really an upset postal worker from [some town]. If you want to send mail I’m sure this guy would be glad to get it.” Followed by a name and armed forces mailing address. I think the post may have been an attempt at sarcasm based on the “Disgruntled Postman” accusation.
I didn’t post at the time, or the last few times this has been brought up, because I think he was an inconsiderate and disruptive poster and I’m glad he’s gone. But I’ve been feeling a little guilty about that. I know he was using at least two IDs, because I (along with others) saw him accidentally sign the wrong name to one of them, and he was definitely using the two IDs to manipulate conversations. I still think he was a troll, but he might have been an actual military troll rather than a civilian impersonating a soldier troll.
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I think it's in poor taste. My first impression is uncertainty as to the meaning of the gesture. It very clearly (to me) can be interpreted the way that Trisha did. In fact, that's the direction I lean toward. I can understand how others view it differently, but the very ambiguity makes it a poor choice.
I agree with those who have said that they recognize their right to protest like this, but would reply with their feet or their dollars (or their own voices). I don't think this is contrary to the principals of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech does not equate to lack of consequences for speech. The government should not interfere. The neighbors shouldn't vandalize his property. The law should not be broken. But if people want to express their opposition to this message in other ways, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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Having taken a day to ponder on this topic I see several areas of discussion. Originally I was under the impression that the outrage was fueled by disgust at the message that the Pearcys were sending. I wasn't surprised that some saw it as an indictment of our troops but I surely don't see it that way and unless we hear it from the horses' mouth we won't know for sure.
Following that line of thought leads us to Dagonee who said,
quote: I assumed it was about the government, and I still found it offensive.
So now we see that at least some of us don't hate the message but, rather the vehicle.(I'm assuming this was what Dag meant, although I could be wrong) I'd suggest that this falls under the category of poor choice. I can see this line of reasoning but I am still perplexed at the amount of anger generated.
I guess the point I'm getting at is that the level of greivance must be a combination of the vehicle as well as the message.
*ends blundering about blindly trying to make some sense*
Edit to clarify that the poor choice comment was directed at the Pearcy's method of protesting and not Dag's opinion.
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I am offended by the style of the message, but not the substance, assuming that the issue is the misuse of the American military for selfish or foolish purposes rather than any misconduct on the part of the troops. I agree that there are so many better ways of expressing this, some of which are sufficiently thought-provoking. The "Your Tax Dollars at Work" on a flag-draped coffin, for example.
The hanging American soldier leaves too much open to interpretation, and the desecration of the uniform is distasteful to me. Sure, there are some soldiers who do horrible things, but many (I'd guess most) are good and honorable people. If you're going to hang an effigy, hang someone who deserves it.
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dkw, that isn't all that happened. He signed BC to disgruntled postmans post, and then a few posts later said, oops I guess the secret is out now.
The he went on to "admit" that he wasn't a soldier and wasn't about to head to Iraq, as he claimed to be doing.
Then he posted saying that he didn't know why people were saying that, could they please get back on topic....with a snicker at the bottom.
He was Disgruntled Postman as well as BC, although he never admitted he was Jar Head.
No doubt about it.
I have no idea if he is currently posting as anyone else here, I must have missed it.
One thing I do know, as my aunt was a Marine for years, and was one of the highest ranking Rapid Deployment Officers .........the Marines missed their recruiting goals for the first time since Vietnam this year. At least that is what she told me.
Also, the Marines retention rates are lower then they have ever been, and re-enlisting is a moot point....the Marines aren't letting people go any more than the other branches are, they are forcing people to stay in even though their term of service is up.
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