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Mrs.M
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Last night, around 11:30 p.m., our dogs started barking and we heard footsteps. My first thought was that it was our neighbor, looking for her cat, but we didn't hear anyone speak and Marilyn has no problem calling out to her cats day and night (and one of them is named something so close to Kira that it always freaks Andrew and me out). There was obviously more than one person and they were going sort of slowly. I got my gun and made sure that the door was locked and the chain was up. After a while, there was a sound like someone dropping something and the footsteps went away from the house. The dogs relaxed, Andrew went back to sleep, I put my gun away and went back to talking about last night's Desperate Housewives on TWoP.

This morning we discovered that there is a toilet on our lawn. A toilet. On our lawn. Attached was the following note:

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Greetings from the Hollins Chapter of Habitat for Humanity

As you can see from the "guest" on you lawn, you have been nominated by a neighbor to participate in our fundraiser. This guest is a representation of poverty housing because the guest is, for many people, an unaffordable luxury. H4H is committed to ending poverty housing and poverty living conditions, and we are asking for your help in "removing poverty housing" by having us remove the guest from your lawn. If you chose [sic] not participate, we fully understand, but if you do wish to participate, we have three options for removal.

1. Simple Removal...$2.00
2. Removal and Insurance*...$5.00
3. Removal, Insurance, Sending+...$10.00

When you have made your decision, please contact ___________ at ____. We look forward to hearing from you.

*Insurance so that the guest cannot be sent to your house again.
+Sending consists of choosing who will next be visited by the guest. Hosts must reside in [list of faculty campus addresses]. Please make checks out to Hollins SGA with Habitat for Humanity on the memo line.

Andrew and I are not amused. Andrew is understandably annoyed that he was woken up and that his wife was alarmed. I am annoyed because THERE IS A TOILET ON OUR LAWN. This is not the way to fundraise, this is a way to alienate people who would have been glad to donate had they been asked. I'm angry on behalf of Habitat for Humanity, because I will be very reluctant to donate in the future. The note is especially grating - I don't need spoiled, rich girls to lecture me on poverty housing. It's wrong to try to force people to donate money. I'm annoyed on behalf of our neighbors, who are not as fortunate as Andrew and I are financially.

How do y'all think we should respond? We are certainly not giving them any money. We live on top of a hill, so it would be very easy for us to just roll the toilet down it. Andrew wants to call them and say that he'll make a $20 donation if they write a letter of apology and then donate the money to another charity (he would just say that he'll make a donation, not that he'll make a donation to Habitat for Humanity). I don't know what I want to do - I'm still too annoyed to think straight.

[ April 04, 2005, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: Mrs.M ]

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beverly
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O_o

Is that sort of thing legal?

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I would call and advise H for H that while you support their work, you are not amused, and that you question the legality of dumping toilets on people's lawns. Also advise them that if the toilet is not gone by the next morning, their next advice will be from your lawyer.

That ought to do it.

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Jenny Gardener
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Hey free toilet! You could donate it to Habitat for Humanity or something...
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Huh. I've seen this type of thing done with pink flamingos (which was actually kind of cute) but never with toilets. Wonder who it was that nominated you for this. I'd just call them and tell them to come get the toilet, with the explanation that I give privately to charities. If they don't like it, too bad - they shouldn't have stuck a toilet on my lawn.

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Erik Slaine
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They forgot to list option four:

Call the police and report them for littering.

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First of all, I would take that toilet and not give it back to them.

Then I'd think about calling the police.

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Hmm, if they tried that with me, that toilet would end up back at their offices - possibly via the window.
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AntiCool
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Maybe it's time to make a toilet trebuchet.
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Take a sledge hammer to the toilet. Leave the pieces in a box by the curb. Don't respond in any other way.

Or, put a couple hundred pounds of weight in it (concrete, etc.) and leave it there with a night-vision video camera to catch the fun.

Dagonee

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I wonder if HfH even knows this is going on, or whether someone locally decided to do it and didn't inform HQ.
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Option 5: Shot, then call the police.
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Jenny Gardener
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Free toilets are good for a lot of things. You can make them into interesting planters. You can paint them and enter them in art contests. You can install them in your house if your toilet breaks down. Seriously I'd call Habitat for Humanity and see if they take donated items for building houses. Then donate the toilet. [Evil]
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Joldo
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Don't forget the subtle threats of lawsuits.

Of course, you don't want a brick hurled through your window with a note saying that many people live in cinderblock houses and can't afford bricks.

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TheTick
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Of course, you would donate it to a different chapter of HfH.
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Oh - the toilet thing for a fund-raiser is pretty common, really. You've never heard of it, Mrs. M?

Our C.S.O. (like a PTA) did a decorate toilet thing all the time for a fund raiser. One person would pay to put it on someone else's lawn, who woulc in turn pay to have it moved to another person, etc. etc.

Farmgirl

(of course, ours were always decorate all cool with some theme, so you would know it was that kind of a joke...)

[ April 04, 2005, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Farmgirl ]

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JonnyNotSoBravo
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Hey, don't take that kind of crapper!
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Free toilet. Keep their little note, and if they want their toilet back, tell them to speak to your lawyer. I'd call it vandalism.
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Jenny Gardener
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Actually, I'm building a house. I'd like a free toilet. Is it functional? How far are you from Indiana and how much would I have to pay to get it here?
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Mrs.M
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Thanks, y'all. I'm glad I'm not overreacting.

Andrew actually is a lawyer and I worked as a paralegal - they couldn't have chosen a worse house.

I'm on the phone w/ the local H4H right now. I don't think it was sanctioned because the receptionist sounds like she thinks I'm nuts.

I wouldn't have minded a flamingo.

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AntiCool
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Actually, that is a pretty funny, though mean, joke to play on somebody.
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That's actually not such a bad idea to raise money, especially considering that cheap housing is under fire.
It's annoying, yet effective.
And very funny.
[Laugh] A toilet!

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I have heard of this fundraising method before, but I didn't recall it was a porcelain statue. I would suggest they use something else, if you're offended...maybe a large, hot pink, plastic flamingo?
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another use for free toilets - races.

They did this last year when RAGBRAI visited Fort Dodge. The toilets were on platforms with wheels, and I think they used plungers like ski poles.

It's probably a good idea that you called the H4H chapter - they may put a stop to this and you have performed a public service.

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This ticks me off, because I donate a considerable amount of money each year to H4H. I'd contact them about it, if I were you, and explain why it's inappropriate.
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beverly
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Farmgirl: Interesting. I guess if it is a humor thing, a tradition, that everyone knows and is used to, it could be considered cute. I still don't like the idea, though.

I much prefer the grocery stores asking if I want to donate a buck to some organization or another. They do that in this area all the time.

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In Farmgirl's description, these are all members of the organization it sounds like. They have notice to protest before it happens. This is like a random attack. I'm assuming Andrew was targeted by a student in one of his classes.

[ April 04, 2005, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

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Actually, from the description, it sounds like someone paid them $10 to put a toilet on Andrew's lawn.
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That's an obnoxious way to ask for a donation. I would be pissed, too.

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Free toilets are good for a lot of things. You can make them into interesting planters.
Actually, a plumber on our block did this. We used to laugh everytime we walked past his house and saw it. [Big Grin]
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Mrs.M
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Okay, this is not sanctioned by the local H4H chapter and it's not a national program. They were as incredulous as I was. The executive director is out, but the very nice lady I spoke to said that she is going to want to speak to me. She also said that the international organization (which I assume is separate from the local) works with schools on fundraising, but I just cannot imagine them sanctioning this program.

I can see the humor in it, but it doesn't change the fact that this is plain wrong.

They should have researched Andrew more - a legal ethics professor with a law degree and a hormonal Southern wife is not a good candidate for this fundraiser.

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An artsy woman in our neighborhood once had a variety of beautifully decorated toilets lining her yard with roses and tulips and violets and all growing out of the tank and the bowl . . .
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First, call the cops and tell them that H4H is growing pot on your lawn.
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[Laugh]
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Warning shots over the head?
Nahhhhh…. Just shot the toilet as they carry it!

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One of the cancer research charities here does pink flamingos in the same way....you get 50 pink flamingos in your front yard, and for a donation, they'll take them away. I remember thinking when I read about it in the newspaper that it was an obnoxious way to raise money.

Then one of our neighbors got flamingoed. And it was really actually kind of cute. A zillion flamingos in your front yard looks obviously like a prank. A toilet in the front yard, not so much.

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In our neighborhood, we'd probably get fined by the HOA for either one.
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In that case, Dag, I'd be sending H4H a bill instead of a donation. Or perhaps selling the toilet to recoup the losses...
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You know, I just thought of something. Around here a lot of people have junk cars in their yards. It's obviously a fundraiser gone awry.

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[Laugh] "toilet trebuchet"

It's a very rude way to fundraise.

You could use it then pay the $10 for them to pick it up. Worth the money. [Evil Laugh]
At least with the pink flamangos they're aren't very heavy and you can get rid of them easily.

It's bordering on extortion, but the amount is so trivial, $10...it's like nuisance extortion.

Once when we came upon a toilet in the woods while frisbee golfing we put a rocket into it. The rocket went around and round faster and faster, with a high-pitched "kkkkwwwweeeee" sound. Then it went off, sending flames shooting over our heads. It was sweet! [Smile]

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That's kinda sad. I've always had a lot of respect for H4H. The flamingo thing sounds a bit better...like, if there were one.

Take the toilet and put deccopaje (spelling was brutally butchered) on it. A friend next door did that and it's really cute.

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I have a neighbor who has a couple of urinals and toilet seats mounted on his fence as kind of a kitsch artish thing. They have other old period signs mounted and an old gas station pump that lights up too. It's kind of tacky but done about as tastefully as that kind of tackiness can be done. At least they live pretty far down the block from me. There are no HOAs in our neighborhood.

AJ

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On the topic of "different" fundraisers, this year 3 Brownies (little girls in Girl Guides, a club) came to my place and were raising money for their winter camp. For $1.00 they'd build a "little" snowman in my front yard, for $2.00 they'd build a "medium" sized snowman and for $3.00 they'd make the biggest snowman they could [Smile]

I thought it was cute

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That is cute!!!!!!!!!
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They'd have real trouble doing that in Napa.

We had no snow last winter.

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I'd have bought a snowman. [Smile]
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Awww . . . cute little brownies. See, that's a good fundraiser. Appeal to people's parental instincts.
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I have to agree with the general concensus here - a toilet is tacky/nasty/trashy. Flamingoes would obviously be a joke, and campy as opposed to trashy. They're lucky they didn't get SHOT mucking around in your yard late at night.
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Personally I love Jenny's idea of donating it to H4H. Seems like the perfect solution, really. A close second would be Dag's idea of making it impossible to lift, and then having the extorters cart it away.

I wouldn't really be offended if someone did this to me, but I also wouldn't be encouraged to donate by means of this tactic.

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Since the organization apparently did not know about this, I think calling them was the right choice. They need to stop this before someone sues them or something.
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Gryphon beat me to it - Mrs. M is, if memory serves, armed. [Big Grin]

Maybe the marketing campaign is just trying to keep a lid on this before the crapper hits the fan.

-Trevor

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