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fugu13
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!

Yeah, pretty low sound quality is the polite way of putting it [Wink] [Razz]

I need to work out the static issues I'm having, but I think I know what's causing them.

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Hobbes, you have webspace, you're a freakin' purdue student.
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Bah, fine, I'll figure out how to use Purdue's webspace just for you Fugu. Don't say I don't appreciate you!

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Look at the information under "Purdue Career Account".

http://www.itap.purdue.edu/tlt/help/

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This answer in particular: http://www.itap.purdue.edu/tlt/help/view.cfm?KBTopicID=1#KB23
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Bah! It takes about 25 seconds to figure out to figure out how to get to the right directory to mess with my webstuff, and 10 minutes until I come back here and look at those links until I can figure out the url associated with it. [Grumble]

Thanks Fugu. [Smile]

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Beloved Hobbsey, of course! [Wink]
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[Smile] Be sure, when you send that program, to send it to the one my profile, the gmail one (hobbes7714 at google's great e-mail). [Cool]

Hobbes [Smile]

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Tatiana
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Program sent, Hobbes!

Russell, yours sounds so professional! Mine are absolutely off the cuff, complete with throat clearings, cats meowing in the background, watch alarm going off and stumblings over words and rereading it. Once or twice I mistook the emphasis on a phrase and realized by the end of the sentence that I gave it the wrong intonation at the start, but I just left it.

I can see that I'm going to have to get my act together to keep up with you guys! :-P

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Oops, Hobbes, it got returned for "illegal attachment" from your gmail account probably because it is an .exe file. I'm going to rename it something else to send it, okay? When you get it rename it back to .exe and then run it to install.
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Sure thing. [Smile]

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It wont install. [Frown] "C:\...\AUTOEXEC.NT. The system file is not suitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications."

Hobbes [Smile]

[ April 23, 2005, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]

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Tatiana
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Hmmmm [Dont Know]

Are you running XP?

[ April 24, 2005, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: Tatiana ]

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I am. :-/

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You know, there are tons of audio recording apps out there . . .

http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=record+audio&tg=dl-20&search.x=11&search.y=7&search=+Go%21+

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Hobbes, you re-named it like she said, right?
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Yah I do, but I like the idea of using the same software AK does, any connection I can have with AK is a connection I want. [Smile]

KQ, if I didn't I wouldn't be getting a run-time error, I would be getting a text file full of machine code. [Smile]

Hobbes [Smile]

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quote:
... any connection I can have with AK is a connection I want.
[Kiss] Sweet Hobbes! We should go out to dinner again sometime. That was fun!
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Hm. I may actually have to do this. Assuming I can find the time, it sounds really enjoyable.

Should we be careful to avoid copyright issues, however, by sticking to books and stories in the public domain?

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Might be a good idea for anyone who's posting them rather than e-mailing them, at least.
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Hmmm...what if we set up a yahoo group? The files could be uploaded there, and we can limit who can access them.

Oh, yeah...can you send me that program?

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All the stuff I'll be doing will be public domain.

Luckily O. Henry is a prolific writer [Wink]

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I was listening to "Unaccompanied Sonata" this weekend, just on audiobook, and I was amazed at what details came out to me that I didn't pick up when I read it (which I did for the first time just a few weeks ago). I think that is because even with fiction I "scan" a bit. We read at different speed and depth when we read silently, depending on the interest level of the passage.

In particular, the back story on both Joe and Guillermo didn't stand out when I read it- I just wanted the narrative to get back to Christian- but since the audio book reads every word at more or less the same speed I suppose I gave them equal attention.

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Tatiana
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However you guys want to do it is fine with me. I was planning to just email back and forth. Anyone who wants my readings just email me at the email address in my profile to request.
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If I was to use a diferent recording program would there be a problem with people getting it? I know most of that stuff can record it to a number of different formats, but what I mean is would the files become too large that way?

Are we all better off using the same programs?

If not, could someone review some of the options for me? I have no idea what would work well...but I do know free is a good thing at this point.... [Big Grin]

[ April 25, 2005, 02:46 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]

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Boon, program sent!
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I've ordered a microphone. Sherlock Holmes and Just So Stories, coming up! (In 3-7 business days.)
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Kwea, I think any program that outputs mp3 files will be fine. This one just happens to be handy. Configure any program for relatively low bandwidth and sampling rate and you should get reasonably sized files.

12,000 Hz bandwidth is plenty for voice recordings (telephones use 5,000 Hz I think). My recordings have an annoying high pitched computer whirr that I wish I could filter out, in fact. This software isn't sophistocated enough to do that, to do band pass filtering, so there's plenty of room for improvement by computer (or audio) wizards like our friend Russell.

I tried the lower sampling rate that would generate files half the size, but it sounded fuzzier and less understandable, so 1 kb/sec seemed to be a good choice. You can experiment a bit with different settings in any software you may try, to compare sound quality and file size and pick something you like.

Or if you'd rather, I'll send you this software and you can configure it just like mine. But there's no special reason for everyone to do that. Mine is not particularly wonderful and there may be many better things out there. I may be persuaded to change to something else myself, in fact, after listening to stories recorded by other people. I'm really impressed by how Russell's sounds, for instance. Mine are quite amateurish by comparison. [Smile]

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I would recommend Audacity, a freeware program that seems to be as good as most commercial programs. Recording a voice was very, very easy to do, and best of all it isn't shareware, it's freeware.

I have played around with it a bit, but the sound quality seems to be very good.

Now, I guess I need to set up my web space with Verizon...I have DSL, so I think I got free space with it, but I don;t have a site even set up.... [Big Grin]

We will see....

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Played around with it a bit, and it is incredible. It is easy to use for our purposes, but it has so many other professional grade features that I am really impressed.

And did I mention it is freeware, not shareware?

Here is a link...it is called Audacity.

[ April 29, 2005, 12:54 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]

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Nice, Kwea!

Anyone have anything new ready for me to listen to? <hopes>

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I am having a problem with Audacity...although the problem isn't with the program, it is with my lack of knowledge about computers in general, I think.

In order to save these voice files with Audacity as mp3 files, I have to install LAM, which is a program/library that Audacity uses to convert it's files to mp 3's. I went to the link and downloaded it, and clicked on the exe. file, and something happens, but then when I try to save the files as an mp3. Audacity can't find the LAME catalog.

Weird.

Kwea

[ April 27, 2005, 08:39 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]

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OK, I figured it out, and now they items I read are in MP3 format. Now I just have to figure out how to send them to people, as I don't have a web site to post them on yet. I think I have the space, as a Verizon DSL customer, but I have not set it up, and have never done anything like that before. It would probably be easier to email it to people, providing I can figure out how to do that.

I believe I can just send it as an attachment, right? I have never tried to send an mp3 before, so I have no idea...

Kwea

[ April 27, 2005, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]

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Hmmmmmmm... but none of the stuff I really want to read is in the public domain! Perhaps I'll fish out one of my books of poetry...
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Is there some amount of a copyrighted book that is legal to read and post, or is just about anything going to be violation? Because I'd really like to do the first few pages of Gravity's Rainbow.

Hobbes [Smile]

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Somehow, I've missed this thread up to this point, but I think I'd like to participate, too. Maybe some Asimov short stories...anyone interested?
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Hobbes: there's no hard and fast limit as to what's okay and what's not, but I don't see any way a couple of pages (in this setting) wouldn't be a fair use, particularly as your use is transformative of the work you're copying.

Megan: asimov's estate is a ferocious copyright defender, so you couldn't post links to them on the forum.

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Ah, ok. Well, any suggestions, then?
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Oh, and Kwea: File are files, you can just attach MP3s like any other file. The only reason you wouldn't be able to attach some file in exactly the same way is if your ISP had some particular restrictions on what sorts of attached files could be sent, which is best tested by a trial run.
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I'm working from this source right now, and will likely be using Project Gutenberg later:

http://www.literaturepage.com/

All works on that site are in the public domain, and almost all works on project gutenberg are in the public domain (and those that aren't have permissions attached to them to make copying possible).

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Alright, thanks.
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Sweet, that means I can do a snippet of The Ground Beneath Her Feet.
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The Literature Network also has Public Domain works online.

I am wondering whether recording and e-mailing one of Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni's stories would be fair use.

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The Literature Network also has Public Domain works online.

I am wondering whether recording and e-mailing one of Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni's stories would be fair use.

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Oh, and don't forget you can always ask the copyright holder. If they give permission, its all good.
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have a question...has anyone else ever used Audacity? I made some mp3's today, but even though the titles are all different in the file I put them in, when I go to play them as mp3's windows reads them as the first one I ddi. They play fine, each individualy, but the title is the same on all of them.

I went under properties of each, and they are all named the same in that, although the names of the individual files in the folder show up fine.

What did I do? Or rather, what didn't I do?

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Do you think we get into copyright violations if we just email them one by one, person to person? That's what I was planning to do, but if that's illegal or wrong then I won't. I'll limit myself to stuff in the public domain.

However, much of what I want to read will have a copyright if not on the original work then on the particular English translation. So I will be sad. But since I've gotten zero requests so far for my readings, the point may be moot anyway. [Big Grin]

Kwea, what have you got so far for me? What story/book or other text are you reading?

Russell, your public clamours for chapter 2!

ketchupqueen, did the microphone come yet?

Jenny Gardener, what chapter are we on in The Secret Garden? I'll read the book to catch up to wherever you are.

I'd like to undertake a really long work, one chapter at a time, perhaps Lord of the Rings, or Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, or maybe Crime and Punishment, The Idiot, The Brothers Karamazov, or Anna Karenina, possibly Heidi, but only if anyone is interested in hearing it. Anyone care to listen to one of those novels that I love passionately? I will work on improving my reading voice, and I'm sure I'll gain in confidence and ability the more we do this.

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Hey, neat! I hadn't come in here before. [Smile] If I find something I want to read, I might play, too.
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Oooooh, I wish Dr Suess was in the public domain... I'd love to read Fox in Sox! Or The Lorax!

But Oscar Wilde is... hmmm....

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ak, I'd love to hear you reading Winnie the Pooh! [Smile]

Sadly my copy of The Ground Beneath Her Feet is 2,000 kilometres from me. But I do have a fun book I'd like to read excerpts of. It's called The Man Who Counted: A Collection of Mathematical Adventures.

[Big Grin]

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