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Absolutely watch it in order. A major reason Firefly never took off while on the air was that Fox aired it out of order, actually showing the two-hour pilot last.
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It's well worth the 35$ to buy the DVDs. If I'd just charge rental fees to my friends and family, I'd have made my money back by now.
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Odd. I didn't have to wait. But I would second Frisco's statement--after renting the series, I asked for it for my birthday. You will probably want to become a Firefly evangelist (more fans = more people going to see Serenity = more movies), and the best way to do that is to own your own set, so you can lend it to people.
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Have there been two Firefly DVD sets, one with less commentary, and one more? If so, how can I tell which is which?
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If you haven't already, try going ahead and putting it as #1 in your queue -- even if it says "long wait," you might get it soon anyway. Netflix shows the Battlestar Galactica miniseries as being "long wait," but I just put it as #1 in my queue and got it right away... Posts: 2911 | Registered: Aug 2001
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I didn't see it in order and I was fine. One of my friends gave me a short intro of all the characters and the situation and I saw "Our Mrs. Reynolds" first. Whenever I show it to people I always skip "Serenity" which I think is slow and rather boring and just start them out on "The Train Job."
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Slow and boring or not, it introduces and sets up the main characters. They're both on the same disc, no reason not to watch them in order.
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I haven't watched the pilot (serenity) and I think I'm ok, but I was given a good explanation. We did watch most of the others in order, but they skipped one so we could watch "Our Mrs. Reynolds" before it was time to go home.
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Our Mrs. Reynolds was the show that made me love the series. I saw The Train Job and the The Pilot before, and they were good and not boring, but I wasn't really hooked. Our Mrs. Reynolds did such a good job highlighting everyone's character that I felt like I knew them then.
That, and Malcolm's final comment. Completely believable! So typical! Oh my stars! Posts: 26077 | Registered: Mar 2000
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Chris- if I only have one episode to get them hooked, I'm sure not going to show them what I think is one of the weakest episodes when there's another that will serve just as well.
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That's the first time I've heard anyone describe "Serenity" as one of the weakest episodes. Firefly haters aside, just about everyone I've shown the series to agrees that it's one of the (if not THE) best episodes.
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I've had it at the top of my queue for nearly a month, with my fingers crossed.
Which makes it hard to type these posts.
And I hardly ever buy movies I haven't seen yet--that's just too much commitment for me for something I don't know well enough. Sort of like an arranged marriage.
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If you enjoy well made television with real humor and drama with an interesting universe on top...just go out and buy it!
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I shouldn't have read this thread. I've justified all of my purchases this week as "graduation presents"...for myself of course. This seems like a good one, albeit $35 that I should NOT spend because it's really for classes later.
Darn you all!
*grapples with doubt and logic*
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Does anyone know if it'll be necessary to have watched the Firefly series to watch the new movie? I don't really want to spend too much money on a series I've never seen before, so I was going to use the movie to judge...
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Yeah, the movie caters a bit to those who've already seen the show, in my opinion.
Of course, I didn't talk to anyone at the screening who hadn't seen the show, so I could be talking out my ass.
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That's been known to have happened before Eddie, so we won't be shocked.
I'm going to try to wait until after next week when my tuition comes flying through my bank account, yanking out most of the funds. Then, I will have successfully finished my year of student teaching and I'll definitely deserve a reward.
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From what I've heard (although keep in mind that this is very limited, as I am avoiding spoilers like a mofo), non-Firefly fans seem to be enjoying the movie very much. I would *guess* that the stuff for fans comes mostly from continuity references and character moments rather than inexplicable plot revelations.
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I need to rewatch the pilot. I saw it as the first Firefly episode, and I haven't seen it since.
I did love Out of Gas. My favorite was the adoption of Jayne. "This isn't funny!" "I'm not laughing!"
Narnia: It is wonderful. Totally worth it. Of course, I haven't gotten mine yet. I spent the money for it on a haircut instead. What was I thinking?
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quote:Originally posted by blacwolve: Chris- if I only have one episode to get them hooked, I'm sure not going to show them what I think is one of the weakest episodes when there's another that will serve just as well.
For what it's worth, I'm with you. I thought "The Train Job" was a better introduction to the series than the original pilot. (Which is not to say that trimming the heck out of the original pilot might not have been a reasonable alternative...)
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quote:Originally posted by Ginol_Enam: Does anyone know if it'll be necessary to have watched the Firefly series to watch the new movie? I don't really want to spend too much money on a series I've never seen before, so I was going to use the movie to judge...
I know somebody who'd never seen the show, went to the movie, loved it, and resolved to sit down and watch the entire series. On the other hand, she was already a Joss Whedon fan... how somebody not versed in the Ways of Whedon would react is, to me, the big question.
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I would have never been interested in checking out Buffy if I hadn't fallen in love with Firefly.
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My favourite episodes are the last three (Heart of Gold, The Message, and Objects in Space). Whenever I watch the series (when introducing someone new to it) I always feel like the first eleven episodes are all well and good but they're really just building up for the last three.
Though "I knew you let her kiss you!" is one of my favourite lines ever. Posts: 10886 | Registered: Feb 2000
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I know you feel that way twinky, but The Message is one of my least favorite episodes. If I had to pick three favorites at the moment they'd be (in no particular order) Out of Gas, War Stories, and Objects in Space.
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Objects in Space is DEFINATELY my favorite episode, by far. Of course, thats not saying much about the rest cause I really love Firefly (I have blackwolve to thank for that, she made me watch it ). Second favorite... would probably just be the rest of the series I like Out of Gas a lot, and War Stories and Ariel and... oh heck all of the rest of them Posts: 3295 | Registered: Jun 2004
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Ah, the joys of having a major Netflix hub just down the freeway (in San Jose).
What's great about seeing them again is that it's been so long since the series originally aired, that I can vaguely remember if I have seen an episode or not, but don't remember all that happened.
It's like falling in love all over again. Posts: 3423 | Registered: Aug 2001
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If you sign up for Amazon.com's Visa card, you get a $30 "promotional" thingy, and i got Firefly for free!
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That's what we did, Leonide - except we took advantage of the sale on the Wonderfalls boxset. We got both (including shipping) for one cent less than the Wonderfalls $23.99 sale price.
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I just finished watching the DVDs. I was surprised to find that I actually did see most of the episodes on TV. I had forgotten how great that show was, and now I can't wait for the movie! *bounce*
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I've been reading Firefly hype everywhere, so I've been anxious to give the show a shot. Last night, I watched the pilot episode, "Serenity." I must say I was enjoying it--until they stumbled upon my pet peeve in all of television, and committed the nearly unforgivable sin.
Needless to say, "Serenity" spoilers follow.
The absolute, positively worst thing a filmmaker can do--especially in sci-fi--is mock the viewer for believing. The second you do that, you absolutely destroy the willing suspension of disbelief, and you drive the viewer right out of your story. Trust is destroyed--at that point, if their heart was ever in it, it has stopped being in it, and you will have to work even harder to get them back.
As you've probably guessed, "Serenity" has one of these moments. There's a character who is shot, and though she spends most of the episode trying to recover, there's a moment when "the hand falls." Now, if at that point she'd have turned out to be alive, I'd have been okay with that. But then, the guy who dropped her hand actually tells someone she's dead.
Now I knew the character wasn't dead. She's on the IMDB cast lists, and she's in the opening credits montage. So when I see the religious character headed towards the girl, I think, "Ah. There's going to be a fantasy element here, where they bring her back from the dead."
But it's nothing so profound as that. See, it was a joke.
The character was joking when he told the other character the girl was dead, and, apparently, joking when he let her hand fall. He and the other characters get a good laugh out of this.
Except the real joke isn't on any of the characters--it's on the viewer. And when you mock your viewer for believing you, you lose them.
I'm not saying I'm not going to continue watching the show, nor that the show has no redeeming qualities. I will and it does.
That was like something out of a student script, though. I hope the rest of the games they play aren't as amateur.
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