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TL
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What is a dobie?

What is a mayfly?

Are there any other hatrack terms I need to learn in order to get along?

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A dobie is a thread where the title is a parody of another thread's title. The content of the first post is traditionally a link which points to something related to the parody subject. For example, if someone were to, say, dobie "Harry Potter" with a thread titled "Hairy Potter," then the link would probably be to a site about, or with a picture of, a clay-worker with lots of hair. Dobies are named after the user who started the whole tradition. Note that most people do not think dobies are particularly funny (or rather, they think that few can do them well). Unless you have a brilliant idea for a dobie, you should probably refrain.

A mayfly is a thread that will probably be deleted by the person who started it. The name comes from mayflies, insects with very short lives.

One other obscure term you should know is "onanism." If you don't know it, look it up in a dictionary (NOT a google search). I'm not explaining this one to you, though.

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It's MASTURBATION.
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Thanks for putting it in all caps, jebus. It really helps the hard of hearing.
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No! You're suppose to get angry and give me a chance to defy authority.
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In what context would the term onanism be used at hatack?
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And someone should come up with slang for all the advice threads.

They are very common and need to be renamed in hatrack-speak, in my opinion.

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jatraquero -a is a Spanglish term for hatracker (the -o suffix is masculine, the -a feminine) coined by David Bowles.

There are families on hatrack, or maybe we're all one big family by now, of adopted relationships. This was begun by Saudade. Almost everyone is Bernard's sibling, I think, and the rest are connected through him, usually, if not in other ways as well. Quite often, as in most small, closely knit communities, in more ways than one. This gives rise to good old hatrack incest, in which, for example, Pod found out he was dating his own niece (Jaiden) more than a year after they had become a couple.

Some of our adopted family relationships are not found in your standard geneological programs, for instance Minions and Acolytes, yet these are tender and close permanent family connections, nevertheless. (I know that Saudade would never deny her minions their generous half-carrot-a-week food/pay package, and they in turn would never cease to send her all their money.)

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Tatiana
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TL a very common usage for the term onanism is when someone posts "I'm relieved this isn't an onanism thread." in just about any thread whose title might be construed to be referring obliquely to the practice. I believe this tradition was started by Papa Moose.

[ July 09, 2005, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Tatiana ]

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memes are ideas which take hold of people's minds, propagate themselves, and survive in the "meme pool" for possibly no other reason than that they have lodged themselves there and can't be got rid of. This term was coined by Richard Dawkins, I believe, in his book "The Selfish Gene" but was popularized on hatrack by David Bowles. The classic example of a meme, in my opinion, which just won't die regardless of the fact that it has no function at all (certainly not humor) is the idea of the dobie. [Wink]

Another one might be the "last post" concept. This actually started because some forgotten genius long ago, in typical fashion felt that every thread they posted in promptly died. They posted a thread stating that they were the thread killer. (Everyone seems to feel like they're a thread killer, from time to time. I'm the supreme thread killer now, I think. [Smile] )

Anyway, others posted to prove them wrong, and to prove that THEY were in fact the master killer of all threads. That idea took off and ages and ages later, we still have the various last post threads (which I personally find delightful). [Smile]

Maybe someday someone will teach me to see something charming about dobies too. Who knows? One can hope. [Smile]

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quote:
jatraquero -a is a Spanglish term for hatracker (the -o suffix is masculine, the -a feminine) coined by David Bowles.
"Ratraquero" is the Portugese-esque equivalent.
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Tatiana
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Porter, is that pronounced something like the same way? I keep hearing that in a Scooby Doo voice, because of my lack of familiarity with Portuguese pronunciation.
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quote:
Another one might be the "last post" concept. This actually started because some forgotten genius long ago, in typical fashion felt that every thread they posted in promptly died. They posted a thread stating that they were the thread killer. (Everyone seems to feel like they're a thread killer, from time to time. I'm the supreme thread killer now, I think. )
It was Yebor1 who posted the original one.
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I thought it was Ratraquenho, mph.

There was a thread titled "Onanism" long ago -- I can no longer remember who posted it. One of the younger members -- possibly Yebor1 or Shlomo. Anyway, when another thread title could function as double-entendre (say, for example, To Quit, or Not To Quit), I would often post in the thread "<Relieved this isn't an Onanism thread.>" Been going on ever since.

--Pop

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quote:
Porter, is that pronounced something like the same way?
It's pronounced pretty much exactly the same way.

An R at the beginning of a portugese word is pronounced just like an "H" in English.

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I thought it was Ratraquenho, mph.
That's not how I've ever done it.
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Verily the Younger
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"Ratraquenho" is a variant of "Ratraquero", coined by OSC himself.

If my understanding of Portuguese orthography is correct, its pronunciation is something like "Hatracainyo".

Edit: Wait, was it actually spelled "Ratraquenho"? I can't remember off the top of my head, but it seems to me there was an I in there somewhere. "-queinho", maybe? I don't remember. Hm.

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Umm, how is Onanism the same as masturbation?

Onan had a partner, he just, uh, didn't finish.

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It comes from a misinterpretation of the story. A lot of people thought Onan's sin was spilling his seed on the ground, and that therefore any sex act that put the seed anywhere but a woman's womb was sinful. Masturbation being the most common example of that, it got the name "onanism".

Onan's real sin, of course, was refusing to impregnate his brother's widow to carry on the family line. Which is not at all the same thing. But that interpretation wouldn't give us many chances to use the word "onanism", and then where would Hatrack be?

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So ...

GLOSSARY OF HATRACK TERMS:

mayfly: a post that will be deleted quickly by its creator, for one reason or another.

dobie: a thread parodying an already existing thread.

onanism: onanism.

jatraquero: male hatracker.

jatraquera: female hatracker.

meme: an idea which catches on.

last post thread: a thread in which the goal is to be the last poster.

ratraquenho: hatracker.

ratraquero: hatracker.
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What else am I missing? Are these definitions correct?

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quote:
Originally posted by TL:
So ...

GLOSSARY OF HATRACK TERMS:

mayfly: a post that will be deleted quickly by its creator, for one reason or another.
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Are these definitions correct?

Try this instead:

mayfly: a post which may be deleted quickly by its creator, for one reason or another. Some mayflies have surprisingly long lifetimes.

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fora: The plural of forum. Is often used to describe the loose network of forums that are related in some way to Hatrack. Some examples are Sake River, GreNME, Galactic Cactus, MadOwl, Gamesmaq, and Platic Castle. There are others.

Most of these are forums that are run by a ratrequero or an ex-jatraquero. Many hatrackers that no longer post here can be seen on these other fora.

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Meh. I say "forums." So shoot me. [Smile]

(And it is Ratraqhenho Porter, you just missed the memo. And this one. Oh, and here I even mentioned you Porter. [Razz] )

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OSC said:

quote:
Technically, the Portuguese version should be "ratraqueiros."
[Razz]
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But notice which one stuck? You still lose. [Razz]

We even made an official announcement...in that thread....where no one else could read unless they read that thread. How much more official can it get?! [Wink]

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quote:
fora: The plural of forum. Is often used to describe the loose network of forums that are related in some way to Hatrack. Some examples are Sake River, GreNME, Galactic Cactus, MadOwl, Gamesmaq, and Platic Castle. There are others.

Good one Porter! Geez! [Roll Eyes]

*waits for the innevitable influx of newbies*

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quote:
Technically, the Portuguese version should be "ratraqueiros."
That's where the "I" fit in. I knew there was one in one of those somewhere.

Well, I still like "Ratraquenho" better.

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Okay, how about shinda?
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All right, now I have a question: I've seen a number of threads where people write "So*". What's with the asterisk?
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Pooka AKA Trisha the Severe Hottie AKA Mothertree once noticed that whenever anybody starts a post with "So,", that person was going to completely disagree with the earlier post. To prove her wrong, we all started starting posts with "So*", and then at the end we'd put


* for pooka

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Ah. So you use So* if you're not going to completely disagree with the earlier post? Or has it just evolved into always being used?
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No, we pretty much started using it anytime to "prove" that mothertree was wrong.
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quote:
Okay, how about shinda?
A Shinda (pl. Shindae) is a SoCal Hatrack gathering. Originally a misspelling of "shindig" on a cake at the very first one, it has become the official name of all such gatherings. We have lost count of how many there have been (unless Pop remembers).

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No, we pretty much started using it anytime to "prove" that mothertree was wrong.
It wasn't to prove anything, actually.

Personally, I think it went from funny to [Roll Eyes] sometime in May or June.

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Graemlins (compleat with ye pseudo-olde-English spelling) are what any other forum calls smileys.
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[Kiss] Porter/ Anti-Cool/Mr. Homestarrio eyes

Though I had forgotten about the contrarywiseguyness. I think I poste about it because there was like 5 threads starting with "So,..." that day. And they had switched because the day before I had pointed out how many people were starting threads with "Well,..."

I mean, people are going to contradict you no matter what you post, right?

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Yeah, I didn't think contrariness figured into it at ALL. And I was there for pooka's post. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Graemlins (compleat with ye pseudo-olde-English spelling) are what any other forum calls smileys.

Lots of other forums call them graemlins.
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Well, I guess the contrariness was just the reason that *I* did it.

[Blushing]

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Don't forget WENCHES!!!
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The "other side" refers to the opposite forum of that in which it was posted. Okay, that might make no sense. For instance if someone posts in Books, Films, Food, and Culture to check out a thread on the other side, he/she is referring to the Discussions about Orson Scott Card forum, and vice versa.
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Would landmark threads be considered hatrack slang? I don't frequent a lot of forums (fora [Razz] ) so I don't know that's a common thing, but I kind of doubt it.
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Definitely Hatrack slang.
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It's not really slang, but it's definitely a hatrack phenomemon.

After all, doesn't something have to have a "norml" or "proper" name in order for another name for it to be slang?

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I believe the word "squicky" is Hatrack slang, non? I've since incorporated it into my everyday vocabulary, but I think I heard it here first.
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I made Tom use a smiley. Maybe I will date him after all.
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THIS is Hatrack slang:

[Wave] [Hail]

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quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
I believe the word "squicky" is Hatrack slang, non? I've since incorporated it into my everyday vocabulary, but I think I heard it here first.

It's internet slang that's popular on Hatrack. I've seen it elsewhere, though only a couple of times.
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I made Tom use a smiley. Maybe I will date him after all.
Tom always uses that smiley or this one [Wink] to show that he's really smiling behind his total smackdown of your last argument. [Big Grin]

But you can still date him if you want to.

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But what constitutes a landmark?

And what is a squicky?

And I'm pretty sure that I was AT the first SoCal hatrack gathering, and there was no cake that said shindi. And Papa Moose was not at that one either, so I'm guessing you mean a later first socal hatrack gathering.

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quote:
Originally posted by mothertree:
I mean, people are going to contradict you no matter what you post, right?

Absolutely not. [Big Grin]
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I must stand up and take credit for being the first to popularize "squicky" and "squicked out" on this forum, though It existed well before I infected Hatrack with it.

I got it from Television Without Pity back when it was still called Mighty Big TV. Imagine my shock when I learned that the origin dates back to early web fanfic-ers or something. I think it was supposed to be a sound effect, but came to mean the feeling of being grossed out.

I think. Anyway, once upon a time somebody blamed me for it, and I fessed up that I'd read it somewhere else and just started using it. It Is NOT Hatrack specific.

P.S. Don't ever visit a fanfic site and look for 'squick fic'. I'm told it would be a mistake.

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