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theamazeeaz
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A girl at my college wants to sell her ipod via my school's for sale forum.

The Ipod is a 2nd gen, 40 gb. It is over a year old. It allegedly works, and is formatted for a PC (I have a PC so this is fine with me). It has headphones, remote, a charger and a USB cable. She is willing to reformat or keep her songs depending on what the purchaser wants. She has "eclectic taste" and 3000 songs loaded on it.

I've secretly wanted an ipod but don't want to spend that kind of money. I'm a marginal music listener, but I like the idea of getting it cheap. She's asked for the best offer. I don't want to spend more than 150 bucks and would like to attempt to offer as little 100. What would be a realistic offer? The mystery songs are an attraction as well.

What do I need to know about 2nd generation ipods in terms of hardware? What are the differences between generations? Or should I just stick with my cd player/128 mb memory stick player?

Any advice?

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ElJay
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I paid $200 for my 15G iPod a little less than a year ago, new in box, from someone who won it in a contest and didn't want it. I can't imagine her not being able to get more than $150 for a 40G if she tries, but if you can get it for $100 that would be a steal, and it doesn't hurt to ask.

Added: Oh, and I love it. Way better than a CD player or little mp3 player. [Smile] Try for it.

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My friend's third gen has battery problems - in fact, there's a class-action lawsuit about it. The second gen might also have been included in that lawsuit... I'm not sure.
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thats funny, cuz my 3rd gen (which ive had for over 1.5 yrs) has never had any problems at all with the battery, and i've never had to replace it. id go so far as to say that it works better now than it did when i first bought it! (its a 20GB)
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My roomie says that the battery might be bad by now, because they have a life of 1-2 years. It costs $99 to get a battery replacement from Apple, but you can get "do-it-yourself" kits for a lot cheaper, though it will void your warranty (is the warranty still active on this iPod? It may have expired already.) The mystery music is not really a plus, because as soon as you plug it in to your iTunes, it's not going to recognize the music as belonging to your library, and so before you can add any more songs, you will have to delete all the music already stored. That said, $100 for a 40 gb is a good deal and I would go for it if you can.
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El JT de Spang
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2nd gen is getting pretty old, and if it has any kind of use, be prepared to replace the battery in the near future. I think it's a deal at 100-120 bucks, but would pass otherwise.
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I've never seen these battery problems. I've heard of them, just never seen them.
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quote:
id go so far as to say that it works better now than it did when i first bought it! (its a 20GB)
There's something seriously wrong if your electronics work better after two years. How crappily did it work two years ago?
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Avaduru...

...about iTunes deleting your music, that's not the way it has to be.

If you don't access your iPod thru iTunes, but through my computer, you can tranfer anything you want to and from it.

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Battery Replacement dropped to $60 a couple weeks ago.
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theamazeeaz
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Well I offered 110 for it. I'll see what happens. Thanks for the advice.
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quote:

If you don't access your iPod thru iTunes, but through my computer, you can tranfer anything you want to and from it.

Well, heck, how exactly is she supposed to access her iPod through your computer? [Wink]
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"my computer" would be more acurate.
Or, in my case (brazilian windows) "meu computador".
:-)

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theamazeeaz
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I got an email today saying that the person who offered 110 bucks will get the Ipod unless someone offers more money by tomorrow.

Can you tell me more about iTunes and deleting your music?

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well, the issue is that the ipod/itunes are made to go one way. When you hook your ipod up to itunes, itunes will put everything that is in your music library onto your ipod and take everything off your ipod that is not in your music library. There is a way to avoid this though. As Eduardo mentioned, you have to use "my computer" to first transfer the music to your hard drive. Once it is on your hard drive, you can add whatever folder you moved it to to your itunes library. That way the songs will remain on your ipod when you connect it to itunes.

If you think that is to complicated, there are programs that are made to make it a bit easier. Google can point you in the right direction.

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I'm pretty good with "My computer" I like explorer better (decides not to turn this into a microsoft bashing thread).

Can I just transfer stuff back and forth without ever opening itunes. Better yet, can I not even install it and operate through windows?

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I'm not sure if the ipod would recognize songs that you put on it in explorer. I think it might need an index file...though I am fairly sure there are 3rd party programs that would work.

However, I personally find itunes to be a very good program...so I would recommend using it.

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The easiest way to take care of this problem is to go into your options in iTunes and switch it from updating automatically to manually. Otherwise when you plug your iPod in it will automatically open iTunes and erase the iPod and upload everything you've got in iTunes onto the iPod, assuming that's less than the 40 gb.

If you switch it to manual updating it won't erase anything that's already on there, but you can choose to erase anything you don't want, plus manually add new stuff my dragging and dropping it from your library.

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