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RoyHobbs
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Is it because he sings like he's an out-of-breath girly boy or is it out of pure envy because he gets more action than you?

"One pair of candy lips and your bubble gum tongue..."

WTF???

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Beren One Hand
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Couldn't get tickets huh?
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Elizabeth
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John Mayer is an incredible musician. He is an amazing guitar player, and plays "for real," not just in the studio.

Sorry to disappoint, but I am not jumping on the anti-John Mayer band wagon. I heard a live show of his before he hit the big time. He deserves all the fame, fortune, and all that goes along with it, that he has earned, and that he wants.

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Ophelia
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I dislike all the John Mayer I've heard (I just don't enjoy his music . . . nothing more than that), but I do really like his song "Comfortable" when sung by the Rice Philharmonics.
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Lyrhawn
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I think he's actually pretty good. He's no Dave Matthews in terms of guitar skills, songwriting, or in general sound, but I like much of what he sings.
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Icarus
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  • Because his songs, which are sacharine at best, and only pleasing for a listen or two (at best) receive constant airplay.
  • Because of how freaking mellow he is. He [Mad] is [Eek!] the [Grumble] second [Wall Bash] freaking [Angst] coming [No No] of [Roll Eyes] the [Frown] Carpenters!
  • Because of the sexism in "Daughters" (or whatever that song is called.

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He was in a pretty funny skit on The Chappelle show, so I can't hate him. But I do like your description of the way he sings.
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Elizabeth
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No, he is no Dave Matthews because he is not really a rocker. He is more of a blues-soul-folk singer-songwriter.

And he is one hell of a blues guitarist.

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I like him a lot, actually.
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I really like listening to him on cd's or the radio, there he doesn't bother me at all. But on the live clips I've seen of him (crossroads guitar fest, some other PBS special) watching his face was nearly painful, moreso than most violinists I know when they are really into it.
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Elizabeth
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Basing an artists's skill and talent on what the radio decides to play leads to a very limited scope of most musicians' work.
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Bleck. I hate that "Your body is a wonderland" song. Does that mean I lack a sex drive? If Mr. Opera sang that to me I'd be seriously creeped out.

space opera

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Icarus
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I liked it.

Once.

When I was drugged.

And feverish.

>_<

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Storm Saxon
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'Icarus to have John Mayer's baby'

Film at 11.

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Lyrhawn
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quote:
No, he is no Dave Matthews because he is not really a rocker. He is more of a blues-soul-folk singer-songwriter.

And he is one hell of a blues guitarist.

You've never heard Dave play blues music on the guitar? He's a lot better than John Mayer. Many of Dave's rhythms are South African folk inspired. Dave isn't really a rocker either, at least not by the standards set in the last...20 years or so. Dave is amped up folk. Just because he usually isn't as mellow as John Mayer doesn't make him that much more rock than folk/blues.

I put him in the same category as Dave Matthews because they belong there.

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Beren One Hand
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I would have Dave's baby, if I were so inclined, equipped, and invited.
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Ummm... ewww
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I like Jason Mraz better than John Mayer, though Jason's new cd is a bit strange.
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Lyrhawn
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It's Dave! Let Beren have his baby if he wants.
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Beren One Hand
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Thank you Lyrhawn. That's the first sensible thing I've heard all day.
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Lyrhawn
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I'll support anything that brings more Matthews into the world.
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Icarus
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And I'll support anything that takes John Mayer out of it. Maybe we can work together . . .
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Elizabeth
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"He's no Dave Matthews in terms of guitar skills, songwriting, or in general sound, but I like much of what he sings."

I like Dave Matthews. He's no [fill in the blank with your favorite guitar player] in terms of guitar skills, songwriting, or in general sound, but I like much of what he sings."

I think a lot of people are "better" than John Mayer, mainly because I like them better. Really, though, I was just trying to defend the poor guy, because, though he may be playing certain publicity cards right now, he is a good musician.

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Chris Bridges
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I like a few of his songs, am indifferent to most of them, and really hate a few. Which puts him about par as far as musicians go in my favor.

I like the acoustic version of "Your Body is a Wonderland" but not the regular version. I like "No Such Thing." Can't stand "Daughters." And so on...

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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Icarus:
  • Because his songs, which are sacharine at best, and only pleasing for a listen or two (at best) receive constant airplay.
  • Because of how freaking mellow he is. He [Mad] is [Eek!] the [Grumble] second [Wall Bash] freaking [Angst] coming [No No] of [Roll Eyes] the [Frown] Carpenters!

<blink> You think "No Such Thing" is mellow? I can just hear Karen Carpenter singing "I wanna scream at the top of my lungs!"

That said, I love the Carpenters. I don't think I've ever heard a voice that compare's with Karen's, and their stuff is just classic.

If you want to hear a really, really disturbing version of "Close to You", though, check this out.

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As several people have said, it's foolish to judge any artist by what the radio plays. The singles are intended to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and usually aren't very good.

That said, I love acoustic guitar and anyone who plays good music on it. I think Mayer is a complete bad***, and is a much more skilled guitar player than Dave Matthews. I like Dave Matthews too, but they're totally different artists.

Put DMB songs next to John Mayer, they have almost nothing in common. John Mayer writes a lot of love songs, DMB writes a lot of altered-consciousness songs.

Before I really listened to John Mayer, I had a problem with the breathy vocals. But now, it's not that big a deal. I think he's a phenomenal songwriter/guitar player, and a good singer.

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Katarain
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I loved Mayer's high school song. It was cool.

I didn't really like Your body is a wonderland. It made me feel icky while I was listening to it.

What really made me hate him was the phrase: Bubbly toes. WHAT THE HECK was that about?!

Huh?? It's gross. It's weird. I hate it.

And what's with all the comparing of Mayer and Matthews? It's like comparing a hamburger with an orange.

Sheesh. They're totally different.

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Who? [Dont Know]
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I don't hate him, but I hate the whiny no-talent poser boys who invariably cover his songs at talent shows.
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I actually have no idea what the man sounds like, but anyone who titles a song 'Your body is a wonderland' is a dork. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by kojabu:
I like Jason Mraz better than John Mayer, though Jason's new cd is a bit strange.

Jason Mraz's new song is so completely self-referential that it makes me want to vomit. John Mayer's "No Such Thing" was pretty good, but I can't stand anything else.
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Katarain
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quote:
I actually have no idea what the man sounds like, but anyone who titles a song 'Your body is a wonderland' is a dork.
YES! [ROFL] That's exactly it.
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quote:
You think "No Such Thing" is mellow?
Um, yeah.

(He say's he wants to scream, but he really isn't, you know. Just a little falsetto whine.)

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Yeah, it's mellow. Seconded, thirded, whatever.
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I didn't like John Mayer when I first heard him. A friend made me get his first album, and I listened to it a couple of times and was thoroughly unimpressed.

Later on I gave it another chance and ended up not hating it. By a couple more listens I became a fairly big fan. I've since bought his second album, and both of them are among my favorites.

I can see where the haters are coming from, but I'm no longer one.

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Uh...who's John Mayer?
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What really made me hate him was the phrase: Bubbly toes. WHAT THE HECK was that about?!
Bubbly toes was Jack Johnson, for the record. I like Jack Johnson okay, but bubbly toes is a little weird. Fun, but, yeah, a tad weird.

*sings* If you would only listen, you might realize what you're missin'. You're missin' meeee....

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Elizabeth
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"Bubbly toes"
I was just going to say that it was Jack "surfer Boy" Johnson.

I think people can get Jack Johnson, Ben Harper, and John Mayer confused at first listen.

And anyway, the world's best guitar player is upstairs in bed right now. He just turned nine.

Edit: Speed, I have some live John Mayer. Shoot me your address again. Well, let me see if I still have it.

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I actually like a few songs by both John Mayer and Jack Johnson. No hate here!
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