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Yeah, I can turn a man into a mane. I can turn a can into a cane. But my friend Sam stayed just the same.
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Meet me in the teachers' lounge in ten minutes. (You can sneak in, right? A friend will keep watch.)
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I thought it might be AFR. Unless he acquired an unexpected wrinkle in his psychological profile, I guess it isn't.
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We can add $10,000 to housing values too, if your development goes from <something> Point to <something> Pointe!
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quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: Umm, buddy? Just a suggestion, having lived in your area: stay away from the Garland 3rd ward (misleadingly named, most of it is in Richardson.) My in-laws are in it, but the whole ward has a weird feeling to it. You're better off in the Richardson 2nd (probably closer anyway) or the Garland 4th (further away, but really really wonderful)-- or just stick with another stake altogether (most of the ones in the area are overall lovely. Just the Richardson stake that has a couple really "off" wards.)
Personally, I had a really, really bad experience in the Richardson 2nd Ward. Of course, that was eleven years ago, so I'm sure things have changed since then. I would recommend the Dallas 11th Ward because singles wards are so much more fun.
Having said all that, what I find amusing about this whole discussion is that a lot of people are acting as if Pfresh has already made the decision to convert, when mere interest in studying has been expressed. Don't make it more into what it isn't. Wait until Pfresh thinks about baptizing, and then discuss that.
Aside from that, if you're really bored at UTD (gosh, I can't imagine why ;P) then LDS singles wards have a lot of activities.
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I'm just looking into it first, gathering information. If I like the sound of things and it feels right, then I'll trying going and such. One step at a time and all that.
And I'm glad someone understand my boredom at UTD. All I hear from people is "Oh, you can be social. Join a frat" and that's not me. *shrugs* Oh well. Are LDS singles wards' activities restricted to members or would they welcome non-members like me (of course this all future talk for next semester and what not)?
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quote:Personally, I had a really, really bad experience in the Richardson 2nd Ward. Of course, that was eleven years ago, so I'm sure things have changed since then. I would recommend the Dallas 11th Ward because singles wards are so much more fun.
Oh, totally go for the singles wards, but I'm just saying, stay AWAY from G3. R2 has been divided since then into R2 and D4 and boundaries have changed, and most of the really weird people ended up in D4. Not that R2 doesn't still have its share of nutters (although there have also been a lot of move in/outs in both wards.) Like I said, G4 is WONDERFUL. I never visited D11, but I heard that it's a really nice singles ward, and I sang in the stake choir with a few people in it (when we were in R2, we also shared the building with them.) And they all seemed awesome. So totally, I recommend D11. And they would LOVE to have visitors at social events, although it'll be easier on you if you make a friend (or at least acquaintance) who you can be "with" when you go to them.
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I was in one of the Garland wards many, many moons ago. I think it was the First, but in fact there may have only been one at the time.
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Show up at church at the D11 ward, and/or find someone who knows someone and get them to introduce you. Posts: 21182 | Registered: Sep 2004
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They're always happy to have visitors at the singles wards. I actually had a nonmember girlfriend that I met at a singles ward activity.
How do you go about making the friend? Er, that's a good one...but it's possible that there are members at UTD (there were four, including myself, when I was there) and if the ward could vector you to one, I'm sure that if you said you were interested in the Church, they'd be willing to help you with the social stuff. That's a lot of ifs, but it's reasonable ifs...
I roomed with guys from all three frats at UTD (the three that were there at the time)...Kappa Sig was the guys who all got drunk and puked. ZBT was the muscle and marijuana frat (my roommate was one of their drug dealers) and Chi Phi was the hardcore drinking frat. Out of the three, I liked Chi Phi the best and hung out with them a lot - but that's because our apartment was the Chi Phi headquarters. From what I saw, frats are pretty much a way to get drunk a lot and have sex with ugly chicks. That's crude...but that's how it was. So if you're looking for something more, the singles ward is a good way to go.
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Yeah. One of my roommates last year was Kappa Sig. He got drunk and had sex nightly (I know for a fact unfortunately). I'm not a drinking person though (for various reasons), and I am looking for more than just sex. So yeah, a singles ward might be a good idea.
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Wait, what are you saying? I'm trying to figure out if I implied something that I didn't mean to (or if there is something in there to be read into).
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quote:Originally posted by tern: ZBT was the muscle and marijuana frat (my roommate was one of their drug dealers) and Chi Phi was the hardcore drinking frat.
I used to shoot pool with some of the ZBT guys from Tulane, and I went to one of their parties once. They were really nice guys. But from what I understand, they do have a reputation for being the marijuana frat.
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pfresh, I think the concern is that your previous post made it sound like you're looking into the church just to meet girls.
If you know that a particular church fits your beliefs, then it can be a good place to meet people (including dating prospects) who share those beliefs. But it's a bad idea to shape your beliefs based on which church has the best dating prospects.
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Oh, that's not what I was really intending to say. I'm sorry if it came off like that. I'm looking at church for beliefs that match my own. The looking for dates and stuff wouldn't come until after I found the right church. Again, I'm sorry if it seemed like I was saying I was looking at the church just to meet girls.
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Update: I have a meeting set up with the missionaries for 1PM Wednesday. It shouldn't be too long (I say this because I explained to them I have something going on at 3PM that day, so it can't be terribly long). I'm looking forward to it, even just to get information from them.
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Be careful, I hear if they get you to take the candy they'll "hit you over the head and whisk you off to a programming session". Posts: 1522 | Registered: Nov 2005
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Well if they offer me candy, I will offer them candy in return. My apartment has candy for guests. It will be a mutual battle of the candy. Posts: 1960 | Registered: May 2005
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I will offer a little unsolicited advice. All of this is anecdotal. I am a Jew, 26 years old, live on my own.
I was approached by some Mormon missionaries while I was waiting for a friend. I had to stand there anyway, so I figured I might as well talk to them. It was two men, and they were very interesting. We talked about Isiah and a little about how they felt that they were a return to an early Christianity. They seemed sorta like the "Karaite" Christians, I was intrigued, and I agreed to meet with them again the following week. I even read about 15 pages of the Book of Mormon that they requested that I read. I made it extremely clear that I had no intention of converting.
The next week, I met with them. They brought two "sister missionaries" with them so I could have someone come to my home. The women were really sweet, but not very well educated in theology. To the point that it was a little shocking.
I met with the women once more (in public), when a member happened to happen by. The member, a new convert, was much more able to answer my questions. He recommended that I go to something called Institute, a general interest class on Wednesday nights at their church. I haven't, so I can't tell you what it's like, but it might be something that you would be interested in.
After these three meetings, I discovered that the Mormons beliefs were not what I thought. And no matter how many times that I told them that I had no interest in converting (there are even several members of my family that died rather than be baptised).
Anyway, I told the women that I was really not interested, but that I would continue talking to the member if I had any further questions. For about a month later, they would call me twice a week, asking me if I had read more of the Book of Mormon (I had not). I tried to me polite and tell them that I didn't have time now. They finally got to the point where they showed up at my home unannounced and became extremely disrespectful of my beliefs.
I have no idea whether my experience was typical.
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No, that doesn't sound typical at all. We didn't bother people who said no. Their job is to find those who are seeking.
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My hope is that such a thing wouldn't happen with me, Minerva. I hope that after I research, if I find out it's not the right thing for me, that they will respect my decision and not hound me about it later. Who knows though. We'll see how it goes.
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We had several conversations like this: Them: We see something in your spirit and pray that you join the church in our lifetime. Me: Umm...ok...but, really, I'm not interested. I'll call you if I'm interested.
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Them: You aren't interested because you haven't been reading enough of the Book of Mormon. You need to read it and pray about whether it is true. Me: I did pray. Them: No, not to the G-d of your church. To the Holy Spirit.
They also couldn't tell me whether they believed in one G-d or multiple G-ds. I might have been willing to talk with the male (brother?) missionaries again. However, I was afraid that it would start this cycle over again. Also, the men seemed pretty eager to pass me off to the women, so I wouldn't want to waste their time.
I'm thinking that I might stop by the Institute one Wednesday and see if I can get some of my questions answered. It's my impression that the members have fewer restrictions on what they are able to discuss than the missionaries.
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I really don't think that is going to happen - I've never heard of it happening, and it is very different from most people's experiences with the missionaries. I'm sorry it happened to you.
quote:Them: You aren't interested because you haven't been reading enough of the Book of Mormon. You need to read it and pray about whether it is true. Me: I did pray. Them: No, not to the G-d of your church. To the Holy Spirit.
This is horrifying. It's just weird. I'm thinking there was some miscommunication going around.
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Aw, I feel kind of bad for everyone in that conversation. Depending on where they were from, they may have never encountered a Jew before their missions. I'm sure they were flustered.
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quote: Them: You aren't interested because you haven't been reading enough of the Book of Mormon. You need to read it and pray about whether it is true. Me: I did pray. Them: No, not to the G-d of your church. To the Holy Spirit.
I got something similar myself. When I mentioned that I had prayed on the issue and had not received the same message, they were quite certain that I must not have prayed correctly.Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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