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Most computer users aren't literate enough to understand what the tasbar is about, let alone know to check it for processes running in the background.
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I guess it would have to be running in the background and automatically start when you turn on your computer...otherwise, after you stopped using the p2p software, you'd have to leave the program running and your computer on forever.
I'm thinking that computer users should make a point of knowing how their computers work. Ignorance is no excuse when you know how prevalent viruses and identify theft are. Know Your Computer!!
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Yes, it has to be running to upload. You have to activate the program for it to upload to other users.
I know it most clients don't automatically restart until you click the icon again, although it is possible to have an upload running AFTER you activate the program for something else and still be downloading the first item unaware.
But it clearly lists what your active uploads and downloads are within the program itself.
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But it clearly lists what your active uploads and downloads are within the program itself.
It did. If I were running the program now, I would have no problem figuring out what was going on. But I was fifteen and couldn't figure out how to download programs, much less read a display and tell that I was uploading songs. Mostly because, as I've stated before, I didn't have the faintest clue what uploading was. I labored under the impression that the songs I was downloading came from some fuzzy internet space; not from other people much like me who were putting them out onto the internet. All of the information in the world can be present and easily accessable, but if you're not capable of reading it, it's not going to do you much good.
The only thing I'm trying to say is that it's entirely possible for there to be hundreds of 13 year old girls out there downloading songs without the faintest clue what they're doing is illegal, or that they're uploading as well.
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And my experience with fixing computers loaded down with virii, trojans, adware, spyware, toolbars, and all sorts of programs running in the background resulting in a sluggishly operating computer tells me that it's not just 13 year old girls who don't have the faintest idea what's going on with their computers. I know plenty of adults who've been using them for 5 or 10+ years who don't have a clue either.
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I've never understood the argument that there are people that don't know what they are doing is illegal. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that getting music for free is not on the up and up. The music industry is not a nonprofit organization.
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quote:The music industry is not a nonprofit organization.
Exactly. Although many, many people think that "true artists" shouldn't want to make money off their work.
Yeah, because working at Publix during the day while you're trying to plan a tour around your days off, that's the American dream, right there.
I say, let artists make money off their work. Let the labels who put up money for the artists make money off the albums that recoup. Perhaps I'm evil, but I have no problem making money off music, be in mine or that of someone I manage, promote, or otherwise represent.
quote:Originally posted by Lupus: I've never understood the argument that there are people that don't know what they are doing is illegal. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that getting music for free is not on the up and up. The music industry is not a nonprofit organization.
I get books for free at the library. I never thought the publishing industry was a nonprofit organization either.
And no, I wouldn't accept that argument from an adult. but it's perfectly possible for a preteen or early teenager to just not know anything about the RIAA or copyright laws and think that kazaa or whatever the current downloading program is now is just a cool program that a friend showed them. This is why, amoung other things, we don't charge kids that age as adults when they commit crimes.
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Most of the teens I know know where the music comes from, and knows they can't get in true trouble about it because they are teens...their parents can, but they can't, really.
Most of the teens I know also know a LOT more about computers and networks than the adults I know do.
I am not say this was the case with you, but I doubt it usually is like that....and even in your case it still isn't a valid excuse.
The program tells you what it is doing...it is your responsibility to find out what it is saying, and what that involves.
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Also..libraries PAY for the books, and you don;t get to keep a photocopy of them....and you don't get to keep them forever.
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Liz, even if she settles, she needs a lawyer to make sure there's no possibility of future liability for anything that's happened prior to settlement.
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Egads, I definitely wouldn;t have thought of that. How can they do that?
And I apologize to all for the snarky comment above. I know how Hatrack threads work, and staying on the topic the thread-starter envisioned is not usually one of those ways.
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It's not a valid legal excuse. If I get busted, I'll be pissed off, because I haven't downloaded anything for 5 years and I know people with 20 gigs of pirated music on their computers, but I'll pay the fine.
I was responding, way back in the beginning, to the disbelief that someone could be uploading and not know that they were.
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Canada's biggest record label, publisher and management company is helping out a family sued by the Recording Industry Ass. Of America for copyright infringement.
The privately-owned Nettwerk Music Group is intervening, it says, because the songs downloaded and identified by the RIAA by the Gruebel family include Avril Lavigne, a Nettwerk management client. Nettwerk will fund the Gruebel's defense.
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