"But he added that the movie's sales on DVD, which came out on Dec. 20, are running neck-and-neck with the hit comedy Wedding Crashers, which bodes well for a possible Serenity sequel."
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You know, I think I'd get more enjoyment from two more episodes of the show than from a feature length movie.
For instance, the episode "Ariel" was probably the best episode of any TV show I've ever seen.
If they made two episodes of that quality, I'd like it far better than if there was another movie. The movie was pretty good, in my opinion, but I thought the show was excellent.
I would be far more happy if it was revealed that the show was being relaunched than if a sequel was announced.
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*Nods* Though the movie was 80 mill, the TV show was mill per episode. So I'd settle for 40 episodes. Though, you know, things are going to be a lot different what with the war and all.
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I agree with the idea that eps would be better than a movie. It costs less per season, and they can still charge more for the DVD's!
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Two things to remember: the studio gets something like 55% of the box office, and they also paid a fair bit for marketing and promotion.
Reportedly, before the movie came out the studio execs said they'd like to see $80 million to consider a sequel.
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I'ld prefer a new season as well. The movie was good yes, but having some new seasons where you can better explain the story is preferable.
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A new season would be far better than a movie. Joss Whedon has said himself that he doesn't work so well in a feature film environment. He's a master story teller for tv shows where he has time to tell his story, but isn't terribly good with crunched movie times.
Not that Serenity was bad, it was excellent. I just would much much prefer a new season of Firefly.
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Stop the madness people. I'm hoping it all ends here, I'm not sure I can stand another two years of Firefly talk.
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You'll prolly get it anyway. Fortunately I label my subject lines carefully so they can be easily avoided Posts: 7790 | Registered: Aug 2000
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I personally would love to see a Firefly min-series. Joss would get a chance to tell more of the story than in a feature movie, but it wouldn't be as difficult as getting a network to start the show up all over again.
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I guess I don't understand why the Sci Fi network doesn't pick it up for a miniseries. See how it does, then try for a series. I wouldn't mind a sequel to Serenity, but would much prefer a series. Or miniseries.
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No longer getting the scifi channel, I don't know the answer to this question:
What proportion of scifi channel miniseries have been inted to be stand-alone (like Dune and Children of Dune), and how many have been attached to series or possible series (like Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5: Legend of the Rangers, and Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars)?
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I'd prefer to see it come back as a series. A nice weekly dose of new Firefly would set my world to right.
But could they pick up with the series where it left off instead of where the movie did? I want Wash and Book, dangit!
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IIRC, Wash and Book left because they were getting too busy to be able to commit to remaining available for future movies or shows.
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Yeah, by killing Book, they took away some of the more interesting story lines. But I'd say they're gone... gone forever.
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I think they gave us all we needed to know about Book's background in the movie... but my favourite storyline was always the Mal-Inara arc anyway. I'm a softie, I admit it. Posts: 10886 | Registered: Feb 2000
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Well, gee thanks for spoiler warnings considering some folks haven't seen the movie yet.
Yeah, I know I bear some responsibility for clicking on a sequel thread, but still, a little consideration for major plot points would be appreciated.
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I would like the show back either set before teh movie or just forget the movie happened.
But then again Joss has never been afraid to kill off poeple from what I have seen.
To tell the truth anything would make me happy, a series, a minisereies or another movie, I don't care to much. I loved the series and I thought the movie was good and like a good book, I want more.
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We didn't learn anything in the movie about Book's background. The visual companion quotes Ron Silver as saying that Book sees a lot of his younger self in Mal, which I think is an interesting statement. The book also says that Wash may return in future productions. That made me happy.
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quote: The book also says that Wash may return in future productions. That made me happy.
Oh man, if it gets all freaky star-trekky, I would not like that. It would also be weird if it is done through some kind of spiritual medium. I could possibly buy some kind of clone deal where he isn't really himself. Reminiscences are fine too. Don't get me wrong, Was was probably my second favorite character. Or third. But when you're dead, you're dead.
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Might be flashbacks. Who knows? Gotta trust Whedon not to cheat, though. He seems pretty commited to honest storytelling from what I can see.
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SPOILER WARNING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN SERENITY OR WHO DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT BOOK'S PAST
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Did you want them to flat-out say "Book used to be an Operative before he converted to Christianity?" I think that would have taken away from how beautifully they said it without saying it directly. Posts: 10886 | Registered: Feb 2000
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twinky- I don't think we've had nearly enough info to be positive about that yet. It's the theory I subscribe to, but it remains a theory, which is fandom discussions, unlike in science, means that there isn't nearly enough proof to be sure of it.
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I disagree, blacwolve, I think we've got all the information we're ever going to get. Book said as much in the movie. I'd actually prefer that Joss not state it explicitly, because I think that would detract from how well it was handled. Posts: 10886 | Registered: Feb 2000
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Twinky, haven't you praised some of William Gibsons's novels because they never really explain what's going on?
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Twinky, I speculated that Book may have been an operative as well, but I really don't think that there's much that even implies it. I certainly wouldn't say that they said it indirectly. Although I think it's a very probably theory, I also think that you may be reading too much into the dialogue.
Now I'm about to say something highly controversial: Does anyone think that maybe it's better if Firefly doesn't come back as a series? It's just a thought, but it's relatively easy to keep a series great for a season or two, but much more difficult to do so for 7 or 8. Maybe Firefly would lose some of its charm after 100 episodes. Maybe returning in a more limited sense, such as another movie or two, or a mini-series, would actually keep it fresh, and prevent future discussions about when precisely Firefly jumped the shark.
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"jumped the shark"? *laughs* I've never heard that phrase before. What's it from?
I didn't get that Book used to be an Operative from that exchange. It makes a lot of sense, except that Operatives don't even have names. And in that one episode, where he gets shot and is taken to the hospital, the officials jump on getting him treatment, it was his name or something in his identity that got them to expedite his admission. Not that it couldn't be explained away, but I really think it's too vague. I would think that the last thing the Alliance would want to do is treat an apostate Operative.
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Well, considering that the doctor who had met with key members of Parliament didn't really know what an Operative was, I would find it surprising for Book to know what one was if he hadn't been involved with them in some way.
Jumped the shark = The Simpson's where the Critic is a guest star. The "Home" episode of the X-Files. Pretty much any episode of a Fox series where women mack on each other. It comes from when Fonzie did a motocycle jump over a pool of sharks on Happy Days. When the show kind of loses it's moorings.
What's funny is I was asking my husband (who is a movie-only fan) if Mal will hook up with Inara or Zoe, and he said "I'd go for River."
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quote:Originally posted by jeniwren: "jumped the shark"? *laughs* I've never heard that phrase before. What's it from?
Have you really never heard it?! I thought everyone had. Basically, when a show... well.. starts to suck it is said to have "jumped the shark". Usually people like to try to pinpoint this to a particular season, episode, or event. There's even a site (jumpedtheshark.com maybe? I'm not sure) where people vote on when popular series jumped. I believe the term itself came from an episode of "Happy Days" where the Fonz jumped over a shark on water skis. It was considered to be the start of an unending nosedive in the series' quality.
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quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Twinky, haven't you praised some of William Gibsons's novels because they never really explain what's going on?
That would be Neuromancer. And yes, it's a favourite of mine, becuase I think some things are ruined by being explicitly stated.
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