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I was irritated and whining to a group of friends about a poster.
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quote:I can't accept the idea that he is 18. Most late teen kids who complain about the type of childhood that he claims, are mature, savy and angry. He's got the anger thing down, but lacks the rest.
Also, his moods swing so wildly that he seems to be playing an RPG. I am left with the impression that he's either a 12 year old or a poser.
Wahh, if there is going to be discord, I prefer it be about substance. At least then I can learn something.
I wrote this in response to the threads that he started with real or feigned ire, then quickly broke into jokes and giggles. I also resent that so many of his posts seem designed to manufacture emotion on the part of the other members of the forum.
I don't apologize for the impression that I took from his actions, but I do apologize for not being invested enough in him to bring them to his attention rather than whining about them behind his back.
The people I'm speaking of obviously have the time and intelligence to be a valuable asset wherever they choose to spend time, I just wish that they respected the rest of us enough to gift us with a bit more decorum and attention to their written thoughts.
I realize that respect begets respect. So I'll make a pact. If I can't extend to you the type of respect that I am requesting, then I'll avoid reading or responding to your posts/threads so as not to tempt myself into bad behavior.
editted to make post and title more in line with forum standards.
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I don't mind him so much. Except it irritates me that just about every thread he starts is him whining about a video game.
Blayne, if you are reading this, you need to make an official video game thread instead of wasting room on Hatrack, darn it. *waves fist*
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Whining about video games, or whining about how someone is 'misrepresenting' China. The happiest place on Earth.
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I understand that you are trying to come clean and make amends. However, in this case I think that what someone doesn't know doesn't hurt them. If I heard that someone was laughing at me behind my back, that would just hurt me more. Making the promise to yourself sounds wiser than sharing it. If you read this before Blayne does, you might want to consider deleting this.
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I would respectfully ask that you leave Blayne out of this. I agree that a call for more respectable and mature behaviour is in order. But to single out one person is classless and I see it as more detrimental to the health of the forum than 10 video game threads.
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I think the only reason Blayne was singled out is LD is quoting something, and it applies more to him.
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I appreciate your concern and admire your motives, but regarding this, clarity is very important to me. If Papa feels otherwise, or if Blayne would like me to remove his name, then I will definitely do so.
edit to add: Exactly, Breyer. Thank you.
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quote:Thanks LadyDove, you expressed what I feel, but with class.
Apologizing for saying something bad about someone behind their back but then refusing to apologize for the bad thing said is not what I'd consider class. Neither is suggesting that 'if I can't respect you, I just won't talk to you.'
I believe Respect is something you choose to give. It is not correct to say you can't respect someone. You have chosen not to - and could choose otherwise.
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Lemme reread it a couple of times, its not making sense to me. My mind is tired and hurts a little when the tonne of bricks fell.
Also the radioactive poisoning doesn't help matters lol.
Ow.
Okay A) What do you mean about an RPG? I didn't get it when i read it in sake river.
B) Mood swings? I'm slightly confused I have bad memory please elaborate (or if you'ld prefer just email me that part).
Okay, I've finally coprehended the posts I do not mind and apology accept and I hope you'll accept mine for when I was being slightly bitchy when i replied "Oh and apparently I have mood swings" in sake.
But ya I'm still in overall confused. Please elaborate exactly WHAT I did wrong in Hatrack via gmail. blayne.bradley@youknowtherest.com (making a joke, a joke)
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Hatrack seems like it's having some...drama (for lack of a better word) lately. Lots of threads whining about other members or picking fights with other members. It's getting kind of annoying. I don't come to Hatrack to see fights and drama.
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ROFL, omg, *cries in laughter* DRAMA? lol!
You should see the stirr I caused in sake. Its like I detonated an atomic bomb.
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ooo... The Hatrack lynch mob is forming again. Frankly, lynch mobs annoy the **** outta me.
I may or may not agree with Blayne on any given point, but what he has to say is usually interesting. And nearly always lead to an interesting discussion, which is all ya can ask of a thread. Lynch mobs are boringly predictable.
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Comparred to what I have seen in my 3+ years cruising forums I'm afraid that I'm the edge of my seat I've never seen this happen before.
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See Blayne! You are interesting! There's a consensus.
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Sweet. I'm ALWAYS interesting in RL, I do the "risky" buisness slide, cuz my shoes have no friction.
So I run, I slide across and open door and people are always like "every time Blayne walks in the room something interesting always happens."
I brought in a cute packers shirt that fits on a water bottle and I took a Buffalo Bill shirt and did the same thing and had a DBZ match between the 2 bottles.
quote:Originally posted by aspectre: ooo... The Hatrack lynch mob is forming again. Frankly, lynch mobs annoy the **** outta me.
I may or may not agree with Blayne on any given point, but what he has to say is usually interesting. And nearly always lead to an interesting discussion, which is all ya can ask of a thread. Lynch mobs are boringly predictable.
Lynch mobs are fun! Peasants and pitchforks, torch wielding farmers!
"Then they turned on the floodlights and it was all jackboots and smoochheil smoochheil!"
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As long as your not the one being lynched. Mobs are brutal.
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I'm still hyper-torqued that they managed to hurt/anger bonduca into leaving. And that was over three years ago. Since then, they've managed to chase off several other interesting contributors. And lynchings for absurdly trivial reasons are a nearly automatic response to youngsters such as want to write and peekaboo. Heck, they darn near chased off ClaudiaTherese and Tatiana as well, who are as about as conversationally polite as one could get.
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Gaal, stick around longer, you'll see it again.
Eventually it becomes a part of the overall cycle that is Hatrack River. It's kinda reassuring, really.
And don't worry Blayne, you aren't the first, nor will you be the last that gets all of this "attention". What will make it interesting is how you respond, Blayne. I'm hoping in the positive, not just for Hatrack, but for yourself (which usually ends up pretty close to the same thing).
quote:Gaal, stick around longer, you'll see it again.
Eventually it becomes a part of the overall cycle that is Hatrack River. It's kinda reassuring, really.
Exactly. And quite frankly, whatever's going on now isn't nearly so interesting as what has gone on in the past. (I suppose this is where I mention that I haven't been paying attention to this latest batch, eh? )
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want to write wasn't chased off, he was told he was an ass and then chose to leave...then came back and I believe got himself banned.
There is nothing wrong with saying "I don't like what you say, and how you say it, so I am going to avoid your threads unless you change." Sometimes it is better than continuing on as things have been.
Not that I think Blayne is/was as bad as W2W, even if he is a little overeagar at times.
I just take a pass on most of his threads...they just don't interest me, but when I do incounter a topic where he is involved then I comment as I wish. Sometimes a agree, sometimes I don't.
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Okay A) What do you mean about an RPG? I didn't get it when i read it in sake river.
Ah, I didn't realize that Blayne had already heard what you had quoted. But if I'm reading this right, he had. This thread now seems far more appropriate. I retract my comment and I'm sorry for getting involved in something when I didn't know the details.
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When I was four, I had a dream where the devil came to me and gave me an ultimatum -- I had to either wash my hands with soap (which I hated) or proceed directly to hell.
I choose hell.
While I was circling down a vortex into the depths I trie calling out thar I changed my mind, but it was too late.
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--- Speaking of vortexes, I saw The Black Hole last week. It was pretty creepy for a Disney film... And ripe for MST3K treatment.
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Thinking of the wrong person, Kwea. want to write was guilty of posting such things as "my teacher says that war is bad" and "my sister doesn't like george bush"
At which point, the lynch mob would start criticizing grammar, spelling, capitalization, etc, then generally devolve into namecalling. With almost nary a hint of addressing what s/he said.
If want to write was ever rude, I never saw it on this side of the forums. If it occurred over on the other side, it would have been well after s/he was called twenty different kinds of idiot, over and over again, so I'd understand why s/he would have wanted to retaliate.
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Egad, aspectre, you really AREN'T a good judge of character, are you?
People were cold to want 2 write because w2w was a lying troll. I'm rather surprised that this was not obvious to you.
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I also think we should leave Blayne out of it. I understand why his name was used, and I certainly can't disagree. But the larger topics is disrepectful noobs, and I'm not sure Blayne qualifies.
He's not a noob, for one*. He's been here for almost a year under one SN or another. And although he recently displayed some annoyingly noob-like qualitites I don't think he's the worst offender. There have been several people recently who have shown a continuing refusal to conform, to listen, or to think before posting. Some of the problem is poor spelling and grammar, but ultimately it's about much more than that. We've formed a community here, and, for the most part, we enforce our own standards. Things are done a certain way, and everyone tries to stay within those unwritten guidelines. Not because there's some punishment for straying, but because it's the nice thing to do. King of Men, as objectional as I know a lot of you find him, conforms to our standards of polite and reasonable discourse for the most part. Sometimes the definitions of polite and reasonable get a bit stretched, but mutual respect keeps the number and frequency of our flame wars down.
This is a big reason why, IMO, people keep coming back here. Because they know they can count on people being friendly, educated, and interesting. That's a rare trifecta, especially online, and when new people show up and want the way the want to do things to be the way everyone does them, well, that just doesn't fly. You don't move to Lithuania and demand everyone start speaking English and playing Football. It's their culture, and if you're smart you'll take the time to learn how they do things before you jump in with both feet. And I think that's all that people here ask, as well.
* I realize that everyone's a noob to someone. Somebody's been here so long they think of TomD as "the new guy". But a year and over a thousand posts is safely out of newbie territory as far as I'm concerned.
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This is not the first thread this week started in order to call someone out for bad behavior. I'm not entirely comfortable with (what I sincerely hope will not become) the trend. Yeah, we have some immature members on the forum. The forum, however, is meant to be welcoming and safe for teenagers. That's why bad language and the like are discouraged. You can not blame the teenagers for being immature; you can hope that they'll grow out of it.
Perhaps a good response to bad behavior is to ignore it (or just to email the poster a ). I'm betting that if the provocative behavior garners no attention, it will quickly fade. Keeping those threads going on the front page with multiple pages of fury and debate is really just encouraging the poster. Ignored threads quickly sink out of sight.
I am uncomfortable with Hatrack jumping all over Blayne. Lighthearted teasing -- well, that's a specialty of mine. But I wouldn't want to see anyone humiliated, or for us to adopt the culture of bullying those goofy outsider kids.
Cause, honestly, how many mature Hatrackers were once goofy outsider kids?
<I'm raising my hand>
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quote:I am uncomfortable with Hatrack jumping all over Blayne. Lighthearted teasing -- well, that's a specialty of mine. But I wouldn't want to see anyone humiliated, or for us to adopt the culture of bullying those goofy outsider kids.
Ditto. Though, it's funny, I don't hesitate personally attacking Blayne, but I didn't want him to leave, I want him to change. He isn't obnoxious as much as he is deeply, deeply wrong.
I'll also say that Ladydove is one of the charming hatrack women, at the same time sharp, moral, and sweet as pie.
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I'm sorry, but the whole "Lets be nice to the newbies and they'll be nice back" thing is a bunch of crap. You're not going to get a response if you don't bring attention to the problem. Sure, singling out people may not be the best thing, but calling attention to the idiocy plaguing the forum is the only way to get it moving up hill again.
Point of fact, this is not a new trend for Hatrack. In fact, the only new trend I see is the fact that the veterans are getting more apathetic about calling people out. There once was a time where we'd sit the kiddies aside and let them know how things went 'round these parts. Now, I don't see that happening as much or at all.
I don't blame them, though. There are better times/places to expend that kind of energy.
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Tante, you might have missed it, but the reason this thread was addressed to Blayne in particular is that he read LadyDove's comment in it's original context. She got caught out talking behind his back, and was -- very graciously, as far as I'm concerned -- apologizing for it in "public."
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Nah Tante, I don't think you really qualify as a newbie anymore. Some people pass through that phase more quickly than others. And no, it's not because you average about 700 posts a month that you're not really a newbie; it's more of a personality thing.
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