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Lisa
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I almost never see people using the word "jibe" any more.
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jibe
intr.v. Informal jibed, jib·ing, jibes
To be in accord; agree: Your figures jibe with mine.

Instead, they use the word "jive", which, while it sounds similar, doesn't mean remotely the same thing.
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jive
n.
1.a. Jazz or swing music.
b. The jargon of jazz musicians and enthusiasts.
2. Slang. Deceptive, nonsensical, or glib talk: "the sexist, locker-room jive of men boasting and bonding" (Trip Gabriel).

v. jived, jiv·ing, jives
v. intr.

1. To play or dance to jive music.
2. Slang.
a. To talk nonsense; kid.
b. To talk or chat: "You just jive in one big group, putting each other on, trying to top the last line" (Time).

v. tr. Slang
To cajole or mislead.

adj. Slang
Misleading; phony.

So please, don't say that one account doesn't jive with another account. It makes my brain itch.
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Katarain
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Oh! I didn't know that jive wasn't the correct word in that context. Good to know.
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Icarus
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Ooh. I half to keep that in mine. I should of known.
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dkw
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>.<
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Noemon
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::squints::

Lisa, I don't much like the cut of your jiv.

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Icarus
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Why don't you just except it? Your just unable to get over it when people don't follow the tenants of speaking good?
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SteveRogers
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THE GRAMMAR! IT BURNS! *hisses*
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Noemon
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::sacrifices Steve on the Alter of Grammer and Spelling::
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D'oh! Thanks for pointing that out! :-D
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SteveRogers
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What am I supposed to do now? Being sacrificed and all...
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Icarus
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Don't worry. Virtual fire doesn't really effect anything anyway.
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Tante Shvester
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You're virtually fired!
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Icarus
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I feel simply retched now. [Frown]
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Noemon
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I am so board here at work. I am literally climbing the wall's with boredom as I sit here at my desk.
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Icarus
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Me to.
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Noemon
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[Edit-I started to add something else, but I decided that it was a mute point, so I deleted it.]
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Bokonon
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starLisa, your experience totally jives with mine.

-Bok

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Amilia
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You know, I knew that jive meant "to play or dance to jive music." I just assumed that when ideas started to jive (To be in accord; agree) that meant that they were both hearing the same music and dancing to the same beat. Had no idea that I was actually combining two completely different words.
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BaoQingTian
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Stop it Icarus!! Its terrible- you're mistakes make those with prefect grammar want to claw there eyes out.
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Jon Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
::sacrifices Steve on the Alter of Grammer and Spelling::

[ROFL]
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rivka
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This thread makes my eyes cross and my brain hurt.

I hope your awl very happy.

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Jon Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
This thread makes my eyes cross and my brain hurt.

I always thought you were suppose two dot you're eyes and cross you're tees.
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Noemon
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Supposably you are, but I dont think any body really does that. Mabye some people do I guess, you never know.
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Icarus
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I think either way is allright.
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My four-grade edjamucashun learner learnded me to talk GOOD American.

I never confuses jive with jibe.

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dantesparadigm
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Well, irregardless of all these grammer issues, I find that the end result is a perfectly cognizable conversation. But Ill still alter my future plans to utilize this new grammercalogical discovery.
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Tante Shvester
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Davidson's rule run amuck!
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Mike
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Oh, god, I'm going to loose my mind!
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Icarus
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Their their. [Smile]

Just lay down . . . it will all feel better in the morning.

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Alien Touring
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Its ok -- were all in this together!
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Lissande
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I may have to quit Hatrack now.

*cries*

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Will B
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I remember reading something back in the 70's that said "their stories didn't jive."

Yet it's not even in m-w.com.

Hm. I'm so used to "jive" with this meaning I hate to give it up. I wonder how many think "jibe" *doesn't* have this meaning -- as I did till just now?

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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Icarus:
Ooh. I half to keep that in mine. I should of known.

Ouch.
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I've noticed this trend as well. To the point that I hesitate to use jibe because I'm afraid others will think it's wrong!
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Jon Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Will B:
I remember reading something back in the 70's that said "their stories didn't jive."

Yet it's not even in m-w.com.

I think that dictionaries might be slower to accept new definitions that are based on errors.
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happymann
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The OED says about jive, v.
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1. a. trans. To mislead, to deceive, to ‘kid’; to taunt or sneer at. Also intr., to talk jive, to talk nonsense, to act foolishly.
b. intr. To make sense; to fit in. U.S. Cf. JIBE v.

And in some languages V and B are interchangeable (just a random note).
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Glenn Arnold
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Well then, "jibe" also means to steer a sailboat from one tack to another with the wind astern, so the sail snaps from one side to the other rather violently.

Like Jack did to Will.

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Jon Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by happymann:
And in some languages V and B are interchangeable (just a random note).

But not in English, where they're never interchangeable.
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