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the_Somalian
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I'm taking a precalc course and so far I've done well but this material is sort of headache inducing as you aren't even solving an equation but merely "veryfing it" so one side--through conversion using various formulas--resembles the other.

Any tips for acing this stuff??

--Abe

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Convert all the trig functions to the ratios they represent. That always made it easier for me.
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  • Start with the ugly side.
  • If it gets uglier for more than two consecutive steps, you're probably doing something wrong.
  • When all else fails, turn everything into sine and cosine. (i.e., no tan, cot, csc, or sec)
  • When all else really fails, go ahead and break the rules: work on both sides. You're not supposed to, so do it on another piece of paper. Once you find the key, you can go back and fake the work.

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the_Somalian
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Great advice gentlemen. I wrote it down and am going to implement it tonight! (thanks)

Does this stuff come back in calc?

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quote:
what are good methods for verifying trig identities?
I usually put them in cages with other trigs and see what happens. In a couple of weeks you'll be able to tell who's who pretty easily.
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You should listen to Icarus before me.
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No, or at least it didn't at my college. But then there's also epsilon-delta proofs, and other kinds of headaches...
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Icarus
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Verifying trig identities? Not so much per se, although it could come up in the form of proofs of other stuff. Depends on how proof-happy your calc teacher is. However, to be good at verifying them, you have to know them well, and that will certainly come up again, when you're trying to differentiate or integrate trigonometric ratios. Also, if you plan on taking the AP exam, memorize your trig identities! If your precalc teacher lets you use a reference sheet or a notecard--as I have wrongfully done for years--s/he is not doing you any favors, as you will not be allowed any sort of reference on the AP calc test.
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In my experience, not for years and never to the extent that you're doing now.

The half and double angle formulas have been the most useful in my experience.

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Remember: Sin^2 + Cos^2 = 1. Use that rule to convert them. Remember the 0 rule (1/x-1) --> x can't be 1.

It's a case by case basis. I'd say convert everything into sin and cos then go on from there.

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Also, the chinese proverb "squaring gains a root."
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Carrie
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I always loved trig and trig identities. And I have to completely agree with Icarus - memorize those crazy suckers!
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HollowEarth
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There is also the fun solution of converting everything to exponentials, simplifing and converting back. Although that may be beyond the scope of your class.
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Glenn Arnold
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Dag
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You should listen to Icarus before me.
Funny, I tried memorizing trig identities three times through three courses, and it never made sense. It worked for a given test, but didn't stick with me.

Then I did exactly what you said above, and converted the identities into the ratios they represented. It was slower than using memorized "facts," but the meaning has not left me since. I would say your original advice is the best one here.

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Dan_raven
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I'd just ask for some picture ID.

Hey, if its good enough for your local polling place, it should be good enough for class.

Although, there is always the problem of Trig Identity Theft. One forged cosine and who knows what chaos may follow.

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Glenn Arnold
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Yeah, that's a problem. A friend of mine had his fiancee cosine on a loan, and then they broke up. She was responsible for his debt under the law of cosines.
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I think you guys are getting off on a tangent.
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I had problems with this, because every time I'd try to verify trigonometric Identities I would end up roughing them up a little to get 'em to talk, and invariably they would give me false information. On my Precal midterm I held this fresh little secant out the window upside down, and he shouted "Ok, ok, I'm a Cosine." (The lying little jerk). So I'm like "Hey, you were a Secant a couple seconds ago, and now that you're inversed you're trying to tell me you're a Cosine, nice try." Long story short I failed the test.

Well… not really.

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Glenn Arnold
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Yeah, he was a tangent, that's why she fell for him. Tall dark and handsome. She was pretty acute too.
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