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If he's dead thank god. If he's not someone needs to impale him in a town square and light his living body on fire so that he knows what pain really is!
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Revenge=happy - at least when it comes to war criminals who are to blame for the death of so many CIVILIAN lives.
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No, I doubt we'll ever know. We might, I'm not saying it's not possible, but I think it'll end up being one of those things, like HegemonsAcolyte said, that we just wait and eventually assume he's dead. I don't think we'll ever find his body.
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Personally I hope he isn't dead. I would be much more interested in his being captured to see what kind of information they can get from him.
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quote:Originally posted by HegemonsAcolyte: Personally I hope he isn't dead. I would be much more interested in his being captured to see what kind of information they can get from him.
true, but still think he should meet a severly tradgic public end once we have squeezed him for all of his info.
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I don't know, if the man can manage to get dialysis every now and then for his kidney issues (right?), couldn't he get to the hospital for that?
And isn't the fact that he's sick dependent entirely on a DGSE report that's unsubstantiated?
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Maybe the report is false and we already havehim in custody, or maybe he's healthy and still on the run. Like mentioned above, I highly doubt that we'll ever really know what happened to him unless another video comes out, and even then it doesn't mean he's still alive, just that he recorded a lot of tapes of himself
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If he died, Al Qaeda would be shouting from the roof tops, and there'd be a huge funeral to honor him. They've done more for lesser people, besides, they'd blame his death on the Americans and call him martyr no matter what. They need the PR.
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It is pretty easy to prove whether tapes are recent or not. He just needs to talk about current events. If he never speaks at all about current events, specific events, then it is unlikely the tapes are current.
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I am not sure if publicizing his death would help or hurt their cause. As long as people think that he is alive they will be afraid.
Also, I think that it would give America too much good PR if people know he is dead. It makes Al Qaeda look weak.
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quote:Originally posted by HegemonsAcolyte: Also, I think that it would give America too much good PR if people know he is dead. It makes Al Qaeda look weak.
Kind of why I am all for a public flogging
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OBL's death wouldn't weaken Al Qaeda one iota. And if people stop being afraid after he dies, then they probably never understood the threat to begin with.
How do we look strong if he dies because he doesn't have access to clean water? Gimme a break.
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never said we would look strong if he dies now, but if we impale him it would dfintely send a message. But he would also become a martyr to his followers. Kind of a win lose situation, if he dies the way he has supposedly died he definitely becomes a martyr because his followers will find some way to blame us anyhow.
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I know that he is not a threat. He has been completely neutered. His assets are frozen and all his energy is spent hiding. Thing is that his danger doesn't stem from what he can actually do, it stems from what people think they can do. He is so built up nowadays. He is like the devil. Who cares if people don't understand the threat? As long as they are scared it gives AQ power.
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I wonder what affect an ignomenious death would have on his followers. I mean, there would have to be some fundamentalist Muslims who would see the great leader of Jihad dying in a hut in the middle of no-where of some disease as less than befitting his high standing. I could just see the Psych warfare people in our military having a field day with that.
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Doubtful. They aren't idiots, if anything, I think Mid-East terrorist groups have proven themselves PR Wizards over the course of the last year.
If they don't outright lie, or cause him to be killed in some sort of glorious martyrdom, then they will blame his death on the long, horrific struggle against incredible odds at the hands of the American Satan.
Ghandi almost died of starvation, and is revered as one of the greatest men of all time. Osama dying from a disease (the man already has health issues) would be easy to turn into a positive for them. He suffers for his people, he hides in caves for his people, he has no access to clean drinking water and risks death for his people. Yadda Yadda Yadda, his sacrifice shall NOT be in vain! Do all that's possible to honor his memory, and to KILL those REALLY responsible for this death! Allahhu Akbar!
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I think their PR is working great. So far they have everyone hating America including Americans.
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The interesting part of the how OBL persona is that he seems to attract OUR versions of extremist nuts, like a heat lamp attracks moths. Just look at this thread!- we get people saying it would be a good idea to stage a Louise the XIV type public execution. That would be just brilliant.
It would be SO cliche for me to respond that terrorists win when we become so much like them- but I am gonna say that anyway. Charismatics and extremists so rarely do anything good for other people- even as they claim to be so commited to service.
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Yes.... and in Thelma and Louise, part XIV... Since this version is more regal in nature, they will instead drive off of the grand canyon in a Rolls Royce.
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quote:Originally posted by HegemonsAcolyte: Yes.... and in Thelma and Louise, part XIV... Since this version is more regal in nature, they will instead drive off of the grand canyon in a Rolls Royce.
Come on! Warn us on the spoilers!
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