quote:Its soooo gonna happen. I mean its BSG for gods sake of course hes gonna be innocent!!!
I'm not so sure about this. Even if Baltar dies, we'd still have Head Baltar. I think it's more likely that he'll be found guilty but will somehow not die/escape.
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quote:Originally posted by Damien.m: 41,399...That killed, it really did.
I think its brilliant that Lees defending Baltar. It will be so much more dramatic when he proves Baltar innocent and Adama has to apologise.
Its soooo gonna happen. I mean its BSG for gods sake of course hes gonna be innocent!!!
Arg... Except that we as the audience have seen the truth...he is personally responsible for the deaths of 50 billion people, the nuking of Cloud Nine and surrounding ships, and the fall of New Caprica.
If he gets off the hook it's not because he's innocent.
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Thats what I still mean though, he was not intentionally responsible for the deaths of 50 billion people he was seduced to allow some random female who he thought was a corporate rival working in the defence ministry into access to the defence network, which he had designed from the get go in the first place. Actions that without a clear knowledge of colonial law we do not know the extent of its legality. He could not have possibly known Cylons could look like humans.
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As soon as Baltar realized what he'd done, he was very scared of being caught and executed for high treason. He knew that allowing unauthorized personnel access to the defense mainframe was a pretty serious crime.
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He may not be directly responsible for the deaths of all those people. Really, he didn't know that she was a cylon.
However, he is guilty for giving an unauthorized person access to the defense ministry mainframe. That, in and of itself, is high treason. So in terms of guilt, he is not guilty of genocide, but of high treason. Both verdicts carry a sentence of death.
Now he is guilty of the theft of a nuclear weapon and giving it to an enemy combatant. Also high treason.
He is guilty of massive corruption in the government of New Caprica, but politicans rarely go to jail for corruption. They just get voted out of office.
As to the crimes committed by the occupation force on New Caprica, he surrendered. Therefore he is not directly responsible as he was simply a puppet leader. Not even in the case of the execution order because he signed at the point of a gun. Something that Caprica Six will testify about.
Me, I am predicting life in prison.
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I predict that Baltar will be found not guilty, after brilliant legal defence, and all sorts of interesting stuff, but will shoot and kill the Admiral and his son, them himself, at a state dinner. Laura will then turn out to be a cylon, and nukes the whole fleet. In a predictable twist Adama, son and Baltar are also cylons and wake up on a base ship. Unexpectedly it turns out the entire fleet are all cylons who've actually been planted on the fake colonies by their uber-cylon masters to recreate (that's what the references to 'it's all happened before' are about) histories they have of the first time this happened with real humans, who escaped to earth, and they hope to follow them by recreating it all.
Or not.
But it's going to be a quantum leap of a cliff hanger, if every other series is anything to go by
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Okay, whatever you do, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GO TO AICN AND READ THE BSG SPOILERS! I'm telling you, it's not worth. This is huge! You want to wait and just watch this one unfold. I am telling you now, don't go and read them. Just turn off the computer and walk away. I know that it is dang tempting, but just don't it.
Carrie, I don't know why I did not listen to you in the first place. Posts: 263 | Registered: Nov 2005
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Okay, I lied. Bad joke. I refuse to go to AICN. I would love to look, but I would hate myself for it. I would much rather enjoy the show.
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I'm loving the Lampkin/Lee interaction so far (about halfway through). This is turning out to be one of the best episodes I've seen in ages.
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MacDonell owned that jury stand, then she goes and owns the podium. She just might be the coolest broad in media. When she was asking Lee not to go there with the drugs, my knees were getting weak, and I was sitting down.
Is she in anything else worth seeing? I could listen to her talk and watch her act for days.
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She has a supporting role in Donnie Darko, though she's nowhere near as interesting or forceful in that movie. But then, few roles are as good as the one she's playing now.
Um, I think I may have heard Anders say something very interesting at the end of the preview, but I'm not sure I heard right. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who doesn't watch the previews, so does anyone know where I can watch it again online?
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Rumour has it that it was "All Along the Watchtower" (Dylan's), but Bear McCreary has blogged about writing a "special musical moment" for the end of the season. Posts: 3932 | Registered: Sep 1999
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It was interesting how the two people in love with Laura Roslin both lost their cool. I wonder if Roslin has any clue about how Tori feels.
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Something that has been bugging me about the whole Baltar trial is didn't Roslin pardon every member of the human race?
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Baltar wasnt with the fleet at the time. And whose the 2 people in love with roselin again?
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I believe that Roslin pardoned everyone in the fleet. Baltar happened to be the one human being who wasn't with the fleet at the time.
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Other than the fact that she hasn't so much as brushed her hair since she found out Roslin's cancer had returned, and the way she lashed out at the press corp? Nothing.
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Well I saw that... Just wondering if I missed something about what Lee knows about Tori. It was kinda noisy in my condo last night. Posts: 4953 | Registered: Jan 2004
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Yes. She is. And what Anders said is right.
And Anders hears the music too, right? At least, he indicated that early on.
We all can put two and two together.
God I hate being spoiled! I lost the chance to be shocked at Roslin's cancer, or any of the other parts of this episode! ::Cries:: I loved it, though.
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so if theyre all able to hear the music does that mean theyre the final 5?
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But they all hear it. Anders is talking to multiple people. What does Anders have in common with anyone else?
He hears this mysterious music, as does Tori and Tigh.
It means that he might possibly be saying to them that he thinks the're cylons. That doesn't mean they ARE.
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What I don't get is how AICN claims there are copies of the final eps all over the place. Speaking as someone with some small skills in the piratic arts, I find this a bit confusing. Has anyone here seen a source for the finale?
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The spoilers came from someone who got their hands on a media "For Review Purposes" copy - the same way EW can review the episodes in advance.
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I bet Anders' comment in that trailer is meant to mislead us. The writers have been preparing us for earth-shattering secrets in the finale, so I doubt they would blow it all in a preview. There may be some truth to his comment, but I think there is some deliberate deceit in putting that clip in the trailer.
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I don't think it's deceit, as such. I think they're going to find out that they're all Cylons, in a manner of speaking.
And I get the For Reviewer Purposes copy thing. But AICN said they were leaked all over the videocybersphere, so I'd expect to be able to find something in the torrentsphere. And yet: nada. Zilch. Gurnisht. Kloom.
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Trust me, the idea that they're all cylons is NOT the big reveal.
There's an even bigger surprise in store. (hard to believe there's something bigger than a bunch of characters we know and love being Cylons, huh?)
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What was the line from Anders? I must've missed it. I mean, I could just watch that part again after work, but that would mean waiting.
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