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Launchywiggin
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Top o' my list:

Lennon/McCartney
Simon & Garfunkel

Elliot Smith
Ben Folds

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vwiggin
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Bob Dylan
Death Cab for Cutie
Radiohead

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Daniel Johns
Ian Anderson

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Bob_Scopatz
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I hate to go all "hatrackian" on you, but could you clarify...

Do you want lyricists, music composers, or does it have to be the all around package of music & lyrics?

I assume we're talking popular music of the current-ish era...

(Just needing some clarification).

Thx.

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Jonathan Howard
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quote:
Lennon/McCartney
Simon & Garfunkel

Can't srgue with that, assuming certain things which Bob wants clarified...
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Alcon
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quote:
Lennon/McCartney
Simon & Garfunkel

They're sorta a given. I would add near the top of my list:

Eve 6
Barenaked Ladies

I'm not sure who specifically did the writing for them.

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Jonathan Howard
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Enya...
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Harry Chapin is close to the top as a storyteller/lyricist. His music was very good for his stories but nothing I'd otherwise consider great.

Musically, GnR did some great things layering different elements together to complex music with many different aspects. Boston did a lot of that, too. Neither produced enough to be the greatest of all time, though.

When I think of best-written popular songs, I don't get a lot of repeats at the top of the list, so it's hard to pick a single songwriter.

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My personal favorites are the members of Rush: Geddy Lee / Alex Lifeson / Neil Peart. They combine complex yet accessible arrangements with thoughtful lyrics in a way that really draws me into their songs.

But is "favorite" the same as "best"? There probably are songwriters whose music I've never heard, who would make the top of my list if I did hear them.

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Avadaru
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I second Elliot Smith. Also Rufus Wainwright, Tori Amos, Saul Williams, Brian Molko (of Placebo), sam Roberts, Cat Stevens, and many many more that I'm sure I'll think of later.
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TL
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I'd agree with Bob Dylan, for sure. Has anyone ever written a better song than 'knocking on heaven's door'? I don't know.

(that was him, right?)

Also Lennon/McCartney (but more Lennon than McCartney)

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Lennon/McCartney is a given.

I don't know about best, but Van Morrison is one of my favorites.

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I'm going to say Queen and particularly Freddie Mercury are among my favorites, and haven't been mentioned yet. I love the melodies and layering in so many of the songs.
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Icarus
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I second Harry Chapin.

I would also suggest John Mellencamp, Billy Joel, Amy Ray and Emily Saliers, Garth Brooks, and Mary Chapin Carpenter.

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Icarus
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Ooh, I forgot Joni Mitchell.
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Icarus
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And Bruce Springsteen.
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ketchupqueen
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Well, Lennon/McCartney have already been listed and re-listed.

I'll add Kate Wolf, Stan Rogers, Bruce "Utah" Phillips, Mary McCaslin, and Iris DeMent.

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Princess Leah
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I put in a vote for George Harrison, maybe THE most major unacknowledged songwriter. I flinch everytime I hear the anecdote of Frank Sinatra introducing "Something" as his favorite Lennon/McCartney song.

Also, Tom Petty, for some fantastic songs, plus reliable good ones.

Leonard Cohen...um... Bryan Ferry, David Bowie... and I second Tori Amos.

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Princess Leah
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Ooh! Sondheim. Jagger/Richards, Brian Jones.

(aside: has anyone else noticed a proliferation of Brians in popular music?)

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You beat me to it with George Harrison, Princess.
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I can't believe I almost forgot Brian Wilson.
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Princess Leah
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See? Brian.
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Kurt Cobain
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Cashew
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George and Ira Gershwin
Lennon/McCartney
Paul Simon
Joni Mitchell
Carole King
Mark Knopfler
James Taylor
Burt Bacharach

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Oh, yes, Paul Simon! Paul Simon is an incredible songwriter.
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Elizabeth
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John Hiatt
John Prine
Bruce Springsteen
Van Morrison
Jerry Garcia + Robert Hunter
Bob Dylan
Neil Young
Jackie Greene
Jeb Puryear/Tara Nevins
Carole King
Joni Mitchell
Rikki Lee Jones
Crow Greenspun
Jennie Stearns

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Luet13
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In no particular order:
Cole Porter
George and Ira Gershwin
Lennon/McCartney
George Harrison
Paul Simon
Nick Drake
Thom Yorke
Björk
Tupac Shakur
Freddie Mercury
Pink Floyd
Brian Wilson
Franz Shubert
J.S. Bach
Tori Amos
Ani Difranco

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TL
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Pink Floyd meaning Roger Waters Pink Floyd, Syd Barrett Pink Floyd, or David Gilmour Pink Floyd?

(I'll assume Waters)

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Elizabeth
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Gilbert and Sullivan
Andrew Lloyd Weber

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Luet13
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TL: Waters Pink Floyd. Forgot to specify.
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Bob Marley
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Launchywiggin
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For Bob.

When I think of "songwriter", it's definitely a package...

The music and lyrics have to work together well. The songs can't just have great music or great lyrics.

A "best" songwriter has to have repeatability--consistently great songs, with very few (if any) duds.

Lastly, I think the best songwriter has to have a large quantity of published music. At least 4-5 albums.

Thanks to everyone who's posting--there's quite a few on here I haven't heard of and a bunch I haven't heard enough of. I was just curious as to what most people liked.

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Frank Zappa is a big YES.
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Cashew
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Yeah, I'll second Zappa
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Oh, and Donald Fagen (Steely Dan).
And if we're going to include people like Schubert and Bach, then I'm going to add: Freddie Hubbard

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I kind of like Henry Mancini.
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Nighthawk
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quote:
Originally posted by Icarus:
Ooh, I forgot Joni Mitchell.

I was about to come in here and post that one.

All the others I can think of are listed already.

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The boys of Led Zeppelin.
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Did Billy Joel write his own stuff? If so, I'd nominate him, or whoever wrote it.
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My personal favorites (some of which have already been listed:

Lennon/McCartney
George Harrison
Sara McClaughlin
k.d. lange
Joni Mitchell
Ray Davies
Willie Nelson
Arlo Guthrie
Woody Guthrie
Ian Anderson
David Bowie
Lou Reed
Nat King Cole
Handel
Mozart
Ry Cooder
Peter Gabriel
Steve Winwood
Steve Winwood/Jim Capaldi
The Eagles (collectively)
Joe Walsh
Jennie Stearns (thanks Elizabeth)
Richie Stearns (and again)
John McCutcheon
John Fogerty
Michael Jackson
Stevie Wonder
Lionel Richie
Eminem
Susan Tadeschi
Brian Eno
Cyndi Lauper
Harry Nilsson
Eric Clapton
Bryan Ferry
Jagger/Richards
Elton John
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Neil Young
TMBG (The two Marks)
Mark Knopfler


I may think of others...

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Elizabeth
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Todd Snider
Jerry Jeff Walker
Richard Thompson
Warren Zevon
Johnny Dowd
John Denver(yes, John Denver!)

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Nighthawk
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quote:
Originally posted by Little_Doctor:
Did Billy Joel write his own stuff? If so, I'd nominate him, or whoever wrote it.

Yes, he did, and he's been mentioned.
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Elizabeth
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Johnny Cash
Cheryl Wheeler

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Elizabeth
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If I had Billy Joel on my list, it would be early Billy Joel, BCB. (Before Christy Brinkley)
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Danny Elfman
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I'm a fan of Randy Bachman.

And Loreena McKennitt.

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Brian Johnson
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Ooh, David Bowie! I don't know how I forgot him. I love me some David Bowie.
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Has Danny Elfman written SONGS?

curious.

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