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MidnightBlue
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World's smallest country for sale. You know, I've always wanted my own country.
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libertygirl
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Thats awesome! I want it too!
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Katarain
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Did you see this part?? It's like a movie...

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Four years later, Dutch and German businessmen on Sealand to discuss a business deal kidnapped Roy's son but were overpowered and held as prisoners of war before eventually being released.

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Strider
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maybe we can all pool our money and buy it. Turn it into Hatrackland.
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TomDavidson
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You wouldn't want it. I've seen pictures of Sealand.
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Katarain
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A picture from their old website:

http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/gallery.html

There's not really any land in sealand.

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I thought the Sovereign Military Order of Malta was the smallest country in the world.
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It is accessible only by helicopter and boat
Just like Australia.
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You can also get to Australia by plane, Dag, and that wouldn't work for Sealand.
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I'm pretty sure a Harrier could get on this island. [Razz]
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Are there any citizens of Sealand? It looks like there aren't in the pictures, but they said they have their own passports...

So bizzare.

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aspectre
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"... its owners, who want offers of eight digits or over..."

I bid 1,234,467.89 old Zimbabwean dollars.

[ January 13, 2007, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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Prince Roy of Sealand is now my hero. This is one of the greatest things I've ever heard. This guy decided he wanted to start up his own country, so he went out and did it. How many people can say that in the last hundred years?

I'm a little confused though. The original link says that Prince Regent Michael of Sealand is selling the nation, but there is no mention of that in the national website. In fact, it does mention that Mr. Brian Semmens has been appointed the new Comptroller of the State Bank, to begin office in Jan. '07. Curious.

That and the fact that the Principality of Sealand is the base operation for HavenCo, who don't appear to be making any changes of location. Plus HavenCo apparently has contracts with Sealand that no new laws will be made affecting the data and info that's stored in their servers there. How can they guarantee that if they are selling?

I dunno, but I love the Principality of Sealand and would move there right now if it weren't so hard to get a visa.

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I am so all over this. You can call me Baron Lem before this year is through!! Bwaaa ha ha ha ha!!!

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Well, no longer do you have to be content just being Mr. or Mrs. Average. Now, you can join the silver spoon club without resorting to marriage or inheritance.

Yes - you can now become an official Lord, Lady, Baron or Baroness of Sealand.

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The title is not like the classic cliché, "buy Scottish land and get a fake title", these are bona fide titles from a sovereign principality, recognised by the Sealand Government, so you ‘really’ will be a Lord, Lady, Baron or Baroness!
Hehehe Bow before me! Bow before me all!!! [Evil Laugh]
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Eight digits, eh? Did they say which side of the decimal point they had to be on? [Evil]
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I have one digit that I'd like to give them, but it's firmly attached to my hand. [Smile]
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Wooohooo... over 10 million dollars for a fake country? I think I'll pass.
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If anyone is still interested in buying Sealand, you better act now. A Swedish file sharing website is planning on buying Sealand to circumvent international copyright laws.

The company is appropriately called The Pirate Bay.

Arrgh...there be pirates a board!

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According to a website set up to secure the purchase of Sealand, The Pirate Bay plans to give citizenship of the micronation to anyone willing to put money towards the purchase.

"It should be a great place for everybody, with high-speed Internet access, no copyright laws and VIP accounts to The Pirate Bay," the organisation claims on its website www.buysealand.com.


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MightyCow
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Forget buying it. I say we start a pirate army and take it by force!

Then we can rename it MightyCowopolis!

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Euripides
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[Hail] His Serene Highness Baron Lem of The West Pilon of Sealand

[Hail] His Bovine Majesty King MightyCow of the Occupied Rooms of MightCowopolis and the Shower Block

All hail!

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martha
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Oh, it's Qwhlm! Well, maybe a little less pretty. And slightly less fictional. Only slightly.
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aspectre
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AARRRRG!!! That's Cap'n MightyCow, ye landlubber. An' while bowin'n'scrapin' migh' well nigh please a mere king,
a [Eek!] Cap'n MightyCow !!! [Angst] of awe and terror is th' proper respect that th' likes o' ye oughtta be agivin'.

Sose hows about it, Cap'n MightyCow? Kin I sign on with yer crew?

Oh, I admits to a tiny mistake in offerin' t' buy. But it wuz in old Zimbawean dollars. 650thousand per USdollar, less than US$2 even when th' cash was good. Imagine the humiliatin' they woulda felt when they accepted, then discovered that it warn't even worth 's much as Monopoly money now.

Sure, that woulda been too low for a pirate t' stoop down t', but I've reformed. From now on it's all blood'n'guts an' th' glory of pillagin'. I've th' tactics of ship t' ship combat down pat, an' 'm ev'n takin' elocution lessons from th' master.

So what do ye say? I be awantin' to get in on th' swag. Say aye, Cap'n MightyCow, an' ye'll be blessin' the day ye did.

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Teshi
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Dude. I'm writing a story about a very similar situation at the moment. They stole my idea!

Curses!

[Wink]

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PrometheusBound
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That's nothing, Didius Iulianus bought the whole Roman Empire in 193.
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lem
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That's nothing, Didius Iulianus bought the whole Roman Empire in 193.
Yes, but did he do it to cleverly bypass copyright laws?

MightyCow, I must inform you as a Baron of Sealand that any attack on us will be met with our own army of student pirates equipped with Bit Torrent cannons and sharpened mouses.

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MightyCow
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Yarr, me crew will be sneakin in unawares, lulling yer defenders into complacency with free pizza and root beer, and then scraping all the mud off our boots into your toilets!

Try to fight us with all yer plumbing clogged, landlubber!

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Nighthawk
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Forgive me, but I always thought one of the core requirements for a country is that there be actual LAND...

And, no, underwater territory doesn't count in my book.

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Lupus
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I'd like to own my own country...but one that actually had land.

Of course, I couldn't afford to pay 6 figures for it, much less 8.

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"I thought the Sovereign Military Order of Malta was the smallest country in the world."

SMOM is, or claims to be, a "sovereign entity," rather than a "soveriegn state."

Of course, most countries (not the U.S. Britain, Canada or Austrailia) recocnize SMOM as a sovereign entity (Italy, Spain, Russia, Eastern Europe, much of East Asia and all of South America) or, um, something else of indeterminate nature (France, Germany, Belgium and Switzerland).

No one recognizes Sealand, although it has a pretty good claim for statehood. If it were a natural island, there could be no contest.

I do love legal loopholes.

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Try to fight us with all yer plumbing clogged, landlubber!
What you fail to recognize, o ye who fail to bathe, is that among my horde of tech savvy law breakers are those who can and have created an army of NINJABOTS!!

No slow clumsy pirate can withstand the stealth, death rays, and poisoned shurikens of ninjabots.

[Evil Laugh] Bow to us. Join us.

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You outsmarted yourself there, MightyCow - ninjas are deadly enough in ordinary times, but with their showering facilities knocked out, the smell alone is lethal.
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No one recognizes Sealand, although it has a pretty good claim for statehood. If it were a natural island, there could be no contest.
actually, Sealand IS recognized. From their website:

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Gradually, over the years, Sealand has become increasingly secure and internationally accepted. More and more, the international Lawyers and other Jurists stated that Sealand fulfilled all the legal requirements of a State and that the Sovereignty of Sealand was absolute and unquestionable. The major states of Europe have now accepted this as a fact.

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Note the vagueness and circumlocution [Smile] .

All that means is, nobody in actual power has bothered to say otherwise. It doesn't mean a thing about states actually accepting the situation, and the incredible ambiguity as to who those 'Lawyers' and 'Jurists' are suggests they're just talking about intellectual speculation by some random people in the legal profession, a good deal of it likely on blogs.

edit: also, recognition in this context has a fairly specific legal meaning, which Sealand most definitely does not have. Recognition requires a positive statement, not some mish-mash acceptance of existence.

Sealand's website discussions of its status are classic circumlocution, and a little bit of logical analysis underscores how little they actually say. All it boils down to is no state cares much about them at all.

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I don't need to buy a country when I've got Pokadoodle, remember? [Wink]
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Gradually, over the years, Sealand has become increasingly secure and internationally accepted. More and more, the international Lawyers and other Jurists stated that Sealand fulfilled all the legal requirements of a State and that the Sovereignty of Sealand was absolute and unquestionable. The major states of Europe have now accepted this as a fact.
So the U.S. should be dropping several hundred tons of ordinance on it any day now, right?

/flame on

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