Alright, I'll amend that to a fetus that can survive without the aid of the womb, even if it's on a respirator for a little while.
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Ok, Megan. I don't have any of the motivations you were picking up from the wording of my posts (at least I don't think I do.) I'm not anti-woman, by any means. I'm just more pro-babies than I am pro-women. When I say thet I don't think women deserve to be able to abort their unborn children, it is meant in the same way as they don't deserve to be able to kill their born children. But the word "deserve" is misleading, and a poor choice. I like your phrasing better.
Kwea, thanks, and no prob. We disagree, and that's no big deal. I'm thinking that you're starting to realize that most of the allergic responses that everyone is having toward me are really not that big a deal.
[edit] I hope you find my arguments uncompelling because you dislike my abrasive demeanor, which I should try to subdue. But if you find my arguments objectively uncompelling, then that really makes me think that you don't comprehend what I'm saying. You can disagree with my logic, with some of my presuppositions, but it is most certainly compelling. I know because I'm not an idiot, and I know how and why my logic works for me. Your lack of comprehension (if that's what it is) may be a result of me poorly expressing myself, but I doubt it because others have been debating with me and have expressed pretty clear understanding.
I'm for any restrictions on abortions, no matter how slight. I'm for straight up outlawing it, with the most exceptional exceptions. But I'll take what I can get.
[edit] The last sentence sure looks like a non-sequiter. I'm not on my best game tonight.
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Once again, this isn't a slam...but I don't judge someone by what other people say. I still see a lot of things in your initial posts that I dislike, but it isn't just because we disagree. YOUR tone has changed as well, even if you don't think so.
You really were telling people (or it really, really seemed like you were) what they should think, and what they really meant.
I don't like those types of arguments, because they are usually a complete waste of time. I don't HAVE a lot of time to spend on Hatrack anymore, and I dislike being patronized.
That being said, I was deliberately insulting to you. I felt you were doing that to me, and others, so I tried to show you how it felt.
I tried to exaggerate, to create the same feelings in you (even if just a little bit of them) that I felt when you belittled me, and people who believe as I do. I understand your beliefs...hell, I use to believe that as well. I don't any more, because of personal experiences I have had in my life that made me question the nature of life, freedom, and love.
So I severely disliked you attitude, and your aggressive posting style, particularly when you claimed that anyone not believing the same as you HAD to REALLY know they were lying to themselves, and rationalizing their actions because they knew they were evil. It pissed me off, and felt like a personal attack, and I wanted you to feel that right back.
I succeeded a little too well, I think. All it did was throw gas on the fire.
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All it did was throw gas on the fire.
