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"This isn't an attack, but I'm pretty sure you told me that you were done discussing your diet on Hatrack. What made you change your mind?"
I am willing to let the subject drop, as you can see by my last post, which I made before I saw this. I don't care to defend my diet all that much. The only reason I brought it up was specifically because people seemed shocked and I thought they were looking for context.
I realize at this point that, when it comes to diet, hatrack and me are talking at cross-purposes, largely. The truth really is, I made a promise to myself to not participate and/or start in any more Price threads about 8 months ago. The only reason that I participated in the one that Kwea just linked was because I was asked by several people, including you yourself, Porter. I definitely see addictive behavior patterns in people who eat a lot of junk food--I thought that was sort of a given. Granted, there had to be something else going on with this guy, as well.
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Kwea, that wasn't my attempt at all. I was asked, invited, call it what you will, to participate, by you, as well as others. I complied. I did not start the thread, was happy when it died, and still have no idea what your point is. I suspect you haven't examined your own motivations in the situation too clearly. By motivations, I mean your reasons for starting that thread, and reposting it now. No, seriously, what ARE your motivations? I wait with bated breath.
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I told you then....you kept promising not to bring this up, over and over again....then you would delete the thread, including the promises, and start all over again in a few months.
You always said you wanted to have a chance to defend your beliefs, and the thread didn't even make it past ten posts before you began attacking people again.
My purpose was twofold. First I wanted to give you a chance to prove your beliefs, and second, I wanted a thread YOU didn't start, because then you couldn't delete it.
I bumped it because you began preaching it again.
It is false, unprovable, and contains dangerous advice posing as medical advice. The research it is based on is faulty and has been disproven more than once, and doesn't take into consideration the most basic of controls.
Best of luck with the not talking about it here again....again.
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Kwea, I am trying desperate to understand your objections. I don't...fully understand them. What I am specifically not suggesting is that people forego conventional medical treatments for major diseases. Did you think I was suggesting that? What I am suggesting is that your chances of getting such diseases are much lower, and recovering from them are much higher, if you stick with a simple, unprocessed diet that includes a variety of good-quality foods. If I ever get cancer, I'll happily go with whatever therapy seems to be the going thing. I'll also be eating a Price-style diet.
Kwea, this isn't your message board, so....be nice.
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quote:If you're interested in human studies, Dr. Price did two small-scale ones with a couple dozen people in each. You can access them here, or I can summarize. Basically, he took people who had dozens of cavities in their teeth, changed their diet, and basically completely halted the formation of new cavities. In some cases, particularly in the children, the cavities filled in. In some cases, other improvements in health/behavior were apparent. Quite a few of the children were noticed to become much better students by their teachers. When he took them off his special diet, cavity formation started again. I'd say that's a good summary, check the link to see if you disagree.
Dude. Weston Price. Let's talk about Weston Price. Price is decidedly in the 'perish' section of the Publish Or Perish system of scientific review. This is for good reason; his work was crap. His studies were crap. He invented a wack pseudoscientific form of dentistry based on shoddy limited scientific analysis he made before 1940, one that holds among its core concepts a number of completely bogus claims that led to great numbers of patients receiving bogus care and dental neglect.
His study of natives was absurdly superficial and did not account for confounding variables or misguided preconceptual assumptions used to gauge positive results. He would use such cursory anecdotal observations as 'not personally observing cancer' in one tribe to determine that cancer rates were greatly lower in that demographic. He never made sufficient variable control considerations to account for observational bias. It was total crap. He was so bad that he was even caught stating unequivocally that his work helped prove direct causation between certain phenotypical characteristics and lower IQ, often through the same specious reasoning that led to some of his bigger scientific failures. The best had to be his theories on 'focal infection' which resulted in many needless operations.
The Price methodology resulted in some absolute dental quackery. He was even less of a behavioral specialist. If he's your source for determining the validity of your selection of psychological claims involving diet, then they have no merit and are based on a thoroughly discredited authority who wasn't even working in his field, just making stuff up.
Everything you are asserting in this thread has obviously been punishingly explained to you over and over again without any apparent capacity or willingness to admit the validity of counterpoint. If you continue to assert this diet-mentality theory based on Price's studies, then you're just doing the same stuff that made all your other price threads an experiment in reasoning failure.
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Chili without beans is no chili at all. Cocoa powder is an interesting, but ultimately optional, addition.
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I'm thinking chili in two batches, one for those who like beans and the other for those who don't. I would definitely try cocoa powder at least once. I'm thinking cocoa and chili powders together always make a nice flavor combo.
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: Chili without beans is no chili at all. Cocoa powder is an interesting, but ultimately optional, addition.
I've never thought of that! Ill have to give it a shot.
At the risk of sounding like a rice nut, in light of my comments as of late in another thread,
Heat up the chili and put it on rice. Add sour cream, grade some cheddar cheese, and take a handful of cool ranch doritos, crush them and sprinkle it all over the chili, serve. YUM YUM.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Well grading MUST take place before you can grate, surely you cannot dispute this!
Actually, I do. I buy some of my cheese pre-grated, and therefore do any grading after it has been grated. Posts: 32919 | Registered: Mar 2003
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quote: Chili over macaroni noodles with shredded old cheddar on top is my favorite
I had forgotten all about this food combination! I am definitely making this tonight!!! This is my absolute favorite comfort food! thanks for bringing back really great memories
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quote:I'm thinking cocoa and chili powders together always make a nice flavor combo.
These flavors have been used together since the Aztecs discovered them. (side note: English word Chocolate is ultimatly derived from Aztec) The most common modern use is for Mole. I haven't tried it in my "Scoutmaster" Chili yet. I always use brown sugar or molassas and a cup of the best cider vinager I can find. The very next pot will have some cocoa, or perhaps some Chocolate Abulita instead.
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quote:I'm thinking cocoa and chili powders together always make a nice flavor combo.
These flavors have been used together since the Aztecs discovered them. (side note: English word Chocolate is ultimatly derived from Aztec) The most common modern use is for Mole. I haven't tried it in my "Scoutmaster" Chili yet. I always use brown sugar or molassas and a cup of the best cider vinager I can find. The very next pot will have some cocoa, or perhaps some Chocolate Abulita instead.
Yes, but have you had chocolate, jalapeno ice cream with almonds, topped with hot fudge and whipped cream?
YUM!!!
I bet the Aztecs would have approved.
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So, what's in chili without beans? Meat, tomatoes...anything else to distinguish it from meat sauce that you might put over spaghetti (other than spices)?
I suppose the chili that goes on a chili dog usually doesn't have beans, come to think of it.
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How many times am I going to have to post my chili recipe afore you guys know just how good cocoa powder can be in chili?
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